i think the wildest thing with this season of You is how much Joe really hated Love for matching his energy. like they are both psychos but he made her look like she is evil and he isn’t.
THANK YOU!! All i kept seeing from people was how much they hated Love and how she was a mess and i was over being so confused cause Joe was not getting the same amount of hate
I think that is on purpose - I read a lot about how women don’t owe men love and a relationship just because they are kind to them and treat them like a human being! That’s definitely something the writers wanted to get across
So does the guy at the cash register who you smiled at out of politeness. Or the Uber driver you weren't an asshole to. That's the whole point. He represents many real life men lol.
I get wym, but then again, literally every girl in the show that he’s interacted with he’s ended up having sex with, one way or another. I wouldn’t necessarily call that a “bit of kindess” from any of the girls he’s thought was flirting, especially saying they were actually into him.
Ok but why did I end up absolutely loving Sherry and Cary by the end of the show lool... they actually seemed really in love and had a (mostly) mature approach in how they communicated with each other
Marianne had said she would run away to Paris with her daughter if she ever got the chance and they would do art there because that's where she was from and she loved it so much
Also can we talk about how problematic it is to take a child away from their other parent especially when they had primary custody for said child for most her life. Granted her ex was very toxic but kidnapping your own child is just wrong.
@@melagurlthe1andonly1 sure but he was dead by the time Marianne left and he was incredibly emotionally neglectful to his daughter when he was alive anyway
I feel like Joe tends to go for women that he can take care of, or ones that are already broken, in his mind (Beck, Natalie, Ellie) and he is threatened by women who know what they are and what they want, those who can’t be manipulated (Peach, Love)
It all goes back to the mommy issues aspect. When you saw someone you loved her destroyed and they gave up on you, you feel like you can’t give up on the women that you feel like you need to protect
It’s not that they didn’t notice the key hole, it’s that Sherry finally realized Love and Joe don’t trust each other so they Must have hidden a key somewhere. She realizes Joe and Love were the “weak spot”.
I don't think she died...(maybe she did). But I specifically remember that he hated the step dad which is why he went back to Mathew (who he originally disliked before his mom got remarried).
But also realistically speaking when you're in that situation with lack of sleep, in the dark room, not much food and not knowing if you're going to live or die you're not going to be in your right state of mind to think clearly. You're scared and emotions are all over the place. If we're using the logic that they should've been smarter and looked around the room, then Gil (science guy, anti-vaxxer) should'vr figured out how to get out sooner as he would've been considered the smarter out of all the victims who have been in the glassbox. But I think it's because this is the first time also that two people were in the box. Previously, there's always been one person. So two minds are better than one.
@@sabinamohan2415 but Sherry knew Love. Sherry is smart, knew the couple, and had been in the cage for a couple of days with time to think when she came to the realization there might be a key in the cage.
No let’s talk about how they made Theo seem like he reminds her of Forty then she sleeps with him. Remind you she killed someone that did this to forty and now she’s turned into that
THATS WHAT IM SAYIING!!! Sure someone can say it was a bit different that he was legal but it just didnt match her character at all and it just made me uncomfy 😬
i think a lot of ppl kinda miss it but Joe’s inner thoughts about flirting and relationships are verrrrry incel-like. he doesn’t view women as whole people and doesn’t take anyone at their word,, instead crafting a narrative around them where he’s the “nice guy” who “gets them”. then lashes out when they dont do what he expects. fully delusional
Also he refuses to see that the problem is him, every time a woman can't meet his expectation of being perfect and dependent of him he blames the woman for not being good enough and not himself for being a psico
@@yurionagony7782 The was that brief period when Joe actually thought he was the problem, but when he discovered Love's issues he immediately shifted the narrative.
At least Henry managed to get adopted by two loving daddies. And despite the creators maintaining that Love really IS dead, they might just pull a Hopper on us!
Ohhh please not necessarily in season 4 but whenever they decide to end the show in the last season they should bring her back and in the end they would both die or something like that...going out with a bang
I'm mainly just upset in the fact that we never got an official update on Ellie and how she's doing. Like, Joe mentioned her in his inner dialogue here and there throughout the season, and he said how he was taking care of her and sending her money, but I would have loved, if even for 5 minutes out of an episode, if we could have seen her in person and how she's living.
he said he still sends her money when he can when he hears from her.... however with him burning the house to ground and pretending to be dead, I'm hoping he still finds a way to take care of her.
wait love killed 4 people before season 3? i dont think shes less experienced i think its more meant to contrast that she kills out of rage and emotion and cant hold back + her family’s money will clean up the mess, whereas joe plans it and only kills people he can “justify” to himself, and its more methodical and strategized because hes the only one who can protect himself
In S2, Love is credited with the killings of her au pair, Delilah, and Candace. I had James listed as well because I was CONVINCED she did that s**t. Which of course, we find out she definitely did in S3. So Joe still has more kills total (10 to 5).
@@LoveableNiki i love how this is a type of show where people ponder and compare the amount of murders two people have committed. Couldn't happen anywhere else. This show really is something 😂
@@LoveableNiki true but i feel like the intent of the writers is more to compare the “method” rather than the count because the whole show theyre both trying to stop killing not compete
The entire show was one hell of a rollercoaster experience for me. I also feel like Season 3 is way, way more gory and intense. That could be just me, though...
No girl you are absolutely right! This season alone had me on edge the WHOLE time and I’m hoping that it gets more gory and intense in the 4th season lol
I genuinely burst out laughing at that scene. The funniest scene in season 1 was when both Peach and Joe were spying on Beck in the bathtub, for Joe to be disgusted at Peach's act: "This is perverted!" while peeping himself.
Also the thing with Marienne and Paris was that she said that’s where she grew up and I believe (not sure) she wanted to go back? Idk but I get why joe might have thought she was there.
The fact that Joe made Love seem crazy, like nah you’re equally as crazy you’re just better at hiding it. And how was love gonna paralyze him for having an affair… when she was too👀 like the toxicity clearly they don’t wanna be together 😭😂 but I’m mad Joe got pissed that he wanted to meet his match SO BAD but when he did, he thought she was crazier. Like nah, you really just hide it better with all those internal monologues
i don’t think i’ve seen anyone mention the keys at the beginning of the show, neither of them trust each other, both of them go in and hide keys in the box- howevvvver joe never had to use his (loves was found because sherry realised they don’t trust eachother- which i thought was v interesting) which makes me think that either joe or someone else will use it or at least there’ll be a scene where it’s acknowledged 🤷🏻♀️
08:00 Theo had a key from when Henry went to the hospital and Love asked him to lock up. 11:00 She thought that there’s a spare key when she realised that Joe and Love did not trust each other and one of them must have a spare key in the cage.
@@kayla-rae4770 no that’s a completely unfair analogy Joe kills when he has a crush neither of theirs is well reasoned love kills when she feels like the person is a threat to her family first Natalie then the guy that gave her child measles she’s not just this blood thirsty person they’re both wrong we’re not gonna sit here and act like Joe is some kind of hero
@@tochiiii nah he aint a hero but like atleast some good came from the ppl he killed. He killed that guy that was drugging girls. He killed peach who was bad for beck etc. While the ppl love has killed did nothing wrong. The lady from season 2 in the cage did nothing wrong candace was just tryna help and natalie did nothing wrong. Joe aint a hero but atleast when he kills there is a good reason and its properly laid out while love kills impulsively and deals doesnt think aboat the consequences
It was WAY too many flashbacks this season. Some flashbacks took up a lot of each episode. I could have done without it. Also, the scene with Joe giving up their baby made me tear up.
I usually (always) love your reviews but this is the first one I believes you weren’t paying attention to the show. Every question you asked was answered in the movie. Theo did not grow up there, his mother is not dead, his step mom is. Marianne literally said she would go back to Paris.
I agree, I always love your reviews, but feels like you rushed this review, all those questions were answered in the show. Theo goes to college somewhere else and he actually flunked, and mariannae literally said she is from paris and would go there to escape, love your reviews!! But this one seemed like you rushed it
@@Kayla-kd8ov she worked in a library. They make pretty decent money. Plus her ex donated money to the library so she could've dipped into that if she was desperate for funds
If I remember correctly Marienne did say that if she needed to run away she would go to Paris with her daughter because that's where she grew up. So I'm pretty sure that's why Joe went there looking for her. Edit: I checked and yes she definitely said if she had so run away with her daughter from her ex husband she would go to Paris.
There was an interview with Penn Badley and the interviewer was teasing how Joe could join Emily in Emily In Paris. (*laugh* I know). I thought Season 3 was too much but brilliant and hopefully Love will somehow be in Season 4 for the drama. One more thing, why didn't the writers and producers allow Penn Badley to keep his beard on the show, even with the scene in Paris
While i do agree that Love reminds Joe of his "bad" side i feel like their personal psychologies creates too much of a difference for him to "see himself when he looks at her." I also feel like Joe has a negative opinion of Love because of his profound misogyny. If he can't be obsessed with a perfect woman, he unalives them which is a very misogynistic way of looking @ women. Also there's the fact he was glad that Love was having a girl bc she "couldn't be like him" like that is ODD!! Other than that i really liked this video
I'm so glad you mentioned Theo being annoying! All I've seen online is how good he is but I was really bothered by him all season. Love rejected him so many times and he just kept pushing it. I'm mad that they actually made Love cheat with him when they could have had her not like him, and it would still cause tension for Love and Joe. Her cheating just felt lazy and predictable, and it proved Theo right for being persistent
True, it's a common trope of Hollywood that "No means yes, you just gotta be persistent". Many classic movies like Star Wars pushed this toxic trope. I thought You was supposed to be different.
One of the most unbelievable things for me is how Joe keeps pulling all these hotties. Like he really gets every woman hes interested to get with him and im just like ?????? How? For me they did Love a little dirty this season like that whole gross romantic plotline with Theo made no sense on her part on why she would romantically attracted to him and it made less sense if she was cheating on Joe then why would she want to stay with him and be THAT desperate to keep him? The logic just wasnt there for me just seemed like a weird way netflix could bring in a weird age gap dynamic. I hope they bring Joe's mom into this somehow cause that would interesting to have her hunt him, doing something like they did with Candance but actually better this time around.
I don't think she was attracted to Theo, initially. I think she was drawn to him because he was so much like Forty that it felt like having him back. However, it became sexual because she was in a vulnerable place knowing Joe didn't care about her the way she cared for him.
Ah yes, blame the 19 y/o boy for having an affair with a much older, married woman. I don't think you'd be saying this if a 19 y/o girl was having an affair with a much older, married man. It's always the responsibility of the adult to shut things down, regardless of the gender.
I'm proud of Joe because he said he wanted to changed and just killed 2 people this season like he's actually trying but love was just killing left and right
Loved this vid and agree with most points EXCEPT about how Marienne kept her nose clean. Was I the only one that felt that she was knowingly flirting with a married man? She saw Love during the Alice in Wonderland event and saw that she and Joe were still very much together, at least, from the way Love explained it, wouldn't you want to keep your nose out of that and seeing how the wife of a guy you're crushing on was still into her husband? "He said you were breaking up", girl, he told you that and also attended the ball with her and wife gave no indication of this, why believe him? You're supposed to be smart, Marienne! I dunno, I dunno.. It was hard to root for anybody this season, except for poor Scott Speedman, maybe the therapist who was on Daredevil and Sherry and Carey, by the end.
I kind of like Marienne after she realized Joe was toxic, but ppl rlly forgetting that she was a homewrecker. Yeah, she looks innocent next to Joe & Love, but she isn’t good either 😭
I'm guessing that Love isn't in her 30's. The actress is 26, and Forty, her twin, did not seem like he could've been in his mid-thirties. There's probably an eight year age gap between Love and Theo, which is funny, because the actor who plays Theo is actually 27. Still weird, though. Edit: In Season 2, Love says to Joe, "I mean who our age gets married, let alone widowed?" Definitely implying she's younger in the show than she is in the books!
@@beexsun7121 I must have missed that among all the chaos of the season! Odd that they cast someone so young then to play a woman in her 30’s! Reminds me of Jennifer Lawrence and her roles
Good points were made. I don't think that Love is dead. Her demise was bland considering they are both serial killers. You're season 4 idea sounds like a great plot because I thought the same. I thought we were going to see Ellie make a comeback for vengeance. I look forward to the next season.
One take-away lesson I learned from this show is that as a man, just because a woman may be young, pretty and shorter than you, you should not assume that she cannot do you physical harm. Poor Theo learned that the hard way. As a wise scholar once said: "The biggest strength of women is the façade of weakness; the biggest weakness of men is the façade of strength."
Maybe the step dad adopted him. Plus in the ending it seems they care about each other deeply. Matthew took him in and took care of him. They are family at this point. But yeah why didn’t writers just make Matthew and Theo blood Father and Son at this point lol.
I thought this season was pretty good, but i just don't like how they kinda do the same thing every season. Its always Joe stalking/harassing a women until they are in a relationship and when they start getting to know eachother, the women finds out he's crazy, tries to ecsape, Joe kills her, moves somewhere else, finds another woman. They add twists like the character of Love and her entire plot line but its still basically one plot repeated in my opinion. I hope season 4 is the last season tho
isnt that literally the point of the show? it’s called you bcs joe will constantly look for a new ‘you’ which is broken women who he thinks he needs to save cause he have mommy issues. in my opinion if they change this pattern, i feel like this show will lose it’s original meaning. love was different though? so i dont rlly get why u said it’s repetitive, like love knew joe was crazy, she didnt run away. marriene well, that is still incomplete
@@ikeepscreamingbutgodwontan3132 yes but it’s also based on a book. I think a big part of the plot is then folllwinf the plot of the storyline in the book
I actually really liked this season because of the dynamic between Joe and Love. The portrait of their marriage was very interesting in my book. Plus the acting was top notch and I really liked the writing. Didn't feel bored at any point tbh.
I think Joe isn't really in it with Love anymore because he thinks what he's done is justified and what Love did isn't. In Joe's head, everything he does is in the name of love. For the most part, his murders are people who Joe deems in the way of a love story and just shitty people in general. Benji, Peach, Ron, Henderson, Jasper are all bad people in reality, or in Joe's reality. In the Season 2 finale, Love kills Delilah. Delilah isn't a bad person at all, and didn't deserve the fate she ending up receiving. Joe's only reason for not killing Love is because she's pregnant. This was truly the moment Joe fell out of love with Love. Joe finds Love more impulsive and reckless then he is, and i think that's actually the case. Natalie and that anti-vaxer dude both were very messy and uncalculated kills. Joe doesn't like Love anymore because Joe believes his kills are justified and Love's are spur of the moment poor decisions.
I really don't think that Love is dead. I think that she is going to come back, it takes Joe a second try to kill his love interest so that is why I don't think that Love is dead. Also, I want to meet Joe's brother and see if he is just as crazy. Additionally, Marianne told Joe that she would go to Paris with her daughter if she could get away from her ex since she was born in France.
your hot takes are literally perfect, I was yelling at the screen lmao. It is crazy how calculated the writers are but then the detail just drive you insaine
I had a huge problem with Love in this season. Every time she would kill it would end up being joes fault. Also, when it came to getting rid of the bodies she couldn’t do it and made it seem like it was joes responsibility. Then when it came to joe thinking about someone and didn’t even cheat yet, love got extremely mad but she was over here sleeping with a 19 year old. There was so much double standards in this season.
But it was Joe's fault. Don't get me wrong, Love also annoyed me a bit this season but she wouldn't have killed without Joe's cheating in the first place. She killed Natalie cuz Joe was clearly getting obsessed with her and was emotionally cheating. She was also going to kill Marianne cuz of Joe too. She said it herself, he would definitely kill for him and she loved him soo much that any women who would get in between them was a threat lol. Every time Joe said he would get better he was still cheating. Love cheated because she wasn't getting that love and sense of importance in her relationship, I mean that is an excuse but still understandable. I do think Love was impulsive af and wasn't too smart with her choices but Joe is just as bad, the writing of the show just tricks us into thinking he is better.
@@michelstephanygarces9431 I agree with you. Joe was a problem cuz he got emotional with the women. But like Love made it seem like her cheating was okay. Like when joe tried to question her, she dismissed him and made it seem like the crush with Theo was one sided. But when it came to joe being just a emotional invested in a women it was a problem. Also, she used Henry as a crutch. Like when Joe yelled at Love when she killed Natalie she made it seem like Henry needed to be take care of and she couldn’t help. Then when Joe said he was planning on leaving Love she was all upset but when Theo brought up about leaving and blaming it all on Joe, she did not defend him. It seemed like she thought about it. Lastly, Love was emotionally and physically invested in Theo but when it happened to Joe it was a big problem.
@@MP-ns4cu omg I was sooooo mad when Love didn't defend Joe about the abuse thing that Theo brought up. Like she just stayed quiet, it's like she was planning all along to blame every moment of her impulsiveness that happened in Madre Linda on Joe and have someone to back her up (Theo) just in case. I agree with many of things you said about her tho, definitely dislike her a lot more than I thought I would. To me, Love just likes to play the victim and just emotionally manipulate everyone around her (which is also a thing Joe does but way more subtly and smarter). Joe seems way more rational and that is crazy for me to say lol.
@@michelstephanygarces9431 you are so right. She likes to be irrational about things and then feel like she is completely justified. And Joe will manipulate someone long term where his victims feel like it was there idea. But, Love and Joe are just a mirror of each other and could not deal with each other bc they were too much alike. I thought it was crazy how love can just make friends and Joe can’t. Like they are the same type of person but Love can hide it so well that no one notices until it is too late. I enjoyed season 3 but I am so curious about where season 4 is gonna go. Is Henry gonna become like his dad? Will Joe ever get caught? Will the PI that the Salinger’s hired every figured out what happened to Peach? I need these answered 😩
@@MP-ns4cu I want answers too and I want them now! There is no much that they can do, I have no idea what they are gonna do next! I'm just excited and impatiently waiting
For the “locking the doors” thing. If i remember correctly Love asked Theo to lock up the bakery for her at some point in the show. I’m assuming that because of this, he knows how to get into the bakery whether it be through a password protected lock or alarm system or whatever.
I was waiting for ur thoughts and opinions!!!! Season 3 was 9.5/10. Love killed Natalie and Joe didn’t even get to have that 😂 I’ve been watching YOU since it was on Lifetime originally and i had to wait every Thursday 😢 and Season 1 was goooooood. (I need you to do Locke & Key!!!)
The entirety of this season is based on a concept: Love’s impulsive behavior; and Joe’s patience, even though they both root from the same trauma and desire the same thing. It’s how they go about it. She impulsively poisons him as soon as she becomes sceptical. He patiently researched the plants she was taking care of in the garden. Also, your line about minding your own black business made me actually cry. I know it’s not just for shows. It just … makes me really sad that there are beautiful people who suffer for no reason. When you said it like that, it made me hurt.
@@pizzahutcaraccidentnot his step mom. It’s his ex-step dads new wife. No relation. And he didn’t live with them, he was just visiting because he doesn’t like his moms new husband.
Joe went to paris because Marienne told joe that if she had to run away with her kid she would go to Paris because she knows that her ex husbands would never find her there.
I think what he's trying to say is where would Mariene get the money to even go there because she didn't have a job and didn't seem financially stable, so how would she go there?
My question is why is Love getting so much hate this seasonnnnn like everyone is coming for her as if Joe isn’t literally the SAME person like I’ve had to fight with 5ppl this week cus they were all pro Joe😭😭
What I don't get is how Joe is gonna be mad at Love for doing what he does to other people to him. He gets a taste of his own medicine and doesn't like it. Also, how Joe thinks is that when he does it it's ok, but when Love does it she's crazy. ANYWAYS love the show still love joe and correct me if I'm wrong but this is just my opinion
@@BerusJ001 lmao this reminds me of that "I swear sometimes I think I'm the only real feminist" scene in season one. But fr tho his delusion was through the roof this season (love too obviously), even more than the previous ones, sometimes I had to laugh bc I just couldn't believe what I was hearing😂
Loved your video, but if you remember Marian was French and they had a conversation saying that if she had to get a way, she would go to Paris. I’m guessing that why joe is in Paris.
The Theo story line made me really uncomfortable like the way he’d flirt with love made me so uncomfortable. It just didn’t feel right and I feel like there was no need for Theo to be in the show at all.
People all over the world love true crime... so him not at all changing his appearance when in Paris just makes no sense Also I wish love was still alive
For me this season was boring. But the moments that I like was when they started to work as a team for some things else the kid. Joe admitted that this "finding a girl to save" Comes from his mom + we saw the relationship that he had with the nurse. He would have worked that in therapy. Ps: and how did love even made that grown man fall with a spoon or what ever she had on her hands
Idk why joe thinks marienne would be in Paris like actual logistics wise but she did disclose that French was her first language when they were in her office
I like Joe's evolution from season 1. First Joe manipulates beck, then Love manipulates Joe. (They were bound to fail, because one thing crazy people are not comfortable with is other crazy people. 😂) His relationship with Marianne is the first one that happened with no coercion. They were both fighting the attraction, and fell for each other naturally. I can't wait to see where it goes. Best season yet! And Joe's narration about the Conrads made me lol several times. 😂
lmao i don’t know if it was just me but when they would literally kill someone every episode made me mad like you have a kid and ur here for change but of course it is a tv show😭
It would have been so interesting if Love didn't die. She would have been the Candice in Season 2 but will be ready to kill Joe unlike Candice that just wanted to scare and expose Joe .
can we talk about how theo didn't even need to be there?? Matthew is Theo's ex STEP-Father, and Natalie was essentially nothing to him but a semi mother figure who he had no close relation to... like- bruh
I meannnn Love was 100% emotionally manipulating Theo so I don’t blame him. He wanted his dad to give him love and attention and the one time he had the opportunity, he passed it up so he could do Love’s dirty work.
Love told Theo about the spare key of the bakery when she got the call about her baby being sick...Also before she hit Theo she asked for the spare key back.
maybe in season 4 we can see him get investigated and have him trick them that he’s helping find the killer. When he’s killing off the detectives himself. idk where they’re going with season 4. But season 3 was a bit redundant but still very very interesting.
(SPOILERS) Tbh I don't know how excited I am for Season 4 now that they set the reset button and the dynamic between Love and Joe is gone. With Love gone, I don't really know if it's worth returning to the same old "Joe obsessed with new girl" shit all over again. She added something different to the show imo.
Okay, but hear me out, I feel like ALL of the children Joe has been connected with (Paco in S1, Ellie in S2, and now Henry in S3, and possibly Julieatte in S4) will ultimately play a larger role in the future. We've seen Joe go toe-to-toe (possible pun intended) with literally his greatest matches, the most recent being Love. My theory is that these children might be Joe's end, as in it's possible that these children might actually be the ones who can stop him. Either way, bring on Season 4!!!