YOU Season 3 is a Never Ending Disaster | Explained 

I don’t wish for a stalker boyfriend but it sure is fun watching someone else have one

Thanks for your review, always great to see your take on things, Amanda!

Glad you're doing better kid. Keep resting and staying connected to your family.

Nah i'm good

Wait, how did you know about my mur-- IIIII mean, wow thank you!!!! Can't wait to start using this incredible website!!! 😄😄

😃😂💀

He would've benefited from a mask (since they already mentioned the pandemic)

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭

@@basiatomaszewska9269 so would everyone else. Like, there’s being a stalker/murderer, and then there’s just being a douche.

@@basiatomaszewska9269 joe wearing mask= no facial expressions= no show

oh yeah I actually enjoy that too - that tracks with him thinking that there's nothing 'wrong' with him

Indeed, there's something darkly hilarious about the charming serial killer being disgusted by ANOTHER serial killer! 😂

She was reckless at least he knew how to hide the evidence.

@@veronicapomar6010 and that's supposed to be good? Maybe you should revisit your morals hahahah

Wait you thought I was serious oh my gosh they’re both killers I was just saying Joe was actually looking good this season and trust me when I say I do not romanticize serial killers.

i smell a SuperEmmy

Oh noooo, hot french guy who can fluently speak in english #6 has been killed

I wheezed

I bet there is fanfiction of that right now sitting in AO3.

Netflix Latin America made a fake teaser of a Emily in Paris/Lupin/You crossover 😂 it was short but fun

... I never even made that connection and now I can't stop laughing. That would've been quite the one sided conversation, Love.

Noooo omg

Omg how did that not hit me wow!! That's insane! Poor guy wouldn't have been able to talk at all to try and get out of that situation. To be fair she dosed Joe so much that he couldn't talk verbally which makes no sense either since he had the pill and it was due to seeping into the skin so it's weird it was that strong to make him not even able to speak slightly. But if she dosed her first husband correctly there's absolutely no way he could have tried to reason with her or for what Love wants to hear agree with her to get out of the situation alive.

@@livgeneral6487 lolllll yeah, it was likely just sloppy writing, but I LOVE imagining it as Love intentionally rigging the game and lying to Joe about it, because that's the funniest possible explanation. RIP, queen.

I mean, Joe couldn’t talk when he was paralyzed, so I doubt it would have worked either way. It could have been lazy writing, or it could have meant to show that Love had no intentions of letting her husband talk in their hypothetical conversation.

Really lol, Love Quinn, Harley Quinn, and now your profile picture... Makes sense

Yes! I felt genuinely said for her that she thought she found a great partner. Someone who could serial kill with her, but he wanted to pretend he wasn't like her

Ikr :( I see sooo many people blaming love for everything and it's kind of sad, she just wanted to be happy!

Shes an anti anti-vaccer

@ChickenScratch That’s what they said

I had to look up their ages while watching because I knew there was no way he was close to his teens but to find out he was a year older than her 🤣🤣🤣

Ageism in Hollywood

Lmaaaaooo I assumed they were the same age but Hollywood is wild.

I was shocked. He looks super young

It was driving me crazy that they kept calling him a teenager despite not looking like one at all

I agree, there was a good cinematic energy to the two of them working together (like a pair of antiheroes or villains in a slice of life), and honestly his whole “I must escape her evil ways” was so annoying.

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but, I like Joe's "protector" mentality because, I think dehumanising morally objectionable characters is actually an issue that takes away from the fact that murder, r*pe, stalking/harassment, etc. are all our very HUMAN faults. Like, yeah these people are monsters, but they ARE humans and that's WHY they're so capable of this stuff, you can humanise a "bad" anti-hero character WITHOUT glorifying them and people don't seem to understand that. I say this without malice of course, I love Amanda and I have no qualms with all y'all others here! But dehumanising these characters ignores the complete mess and violent nature of the human condition, and it probably also discourages people with violent/intrusive thoughts from going to get help because they think they're not worthy of people's time. Which, I can imagine, encourages some reckless and dangerous behaviour, potentially, for OTHER people. At the end of the day, people who commit these kinds of atrocities, are still **people** and probably have weaknesses (as all of us do). It's extremely reasonable to believe that someone with as strong as a saviour complex as Joe, who wants nothing more than for his child to live a crime/violence-free life and not experience the same traumas he did, would also see himself reflected in other kids in his neighbourhoods who are struggling for a better life and therefore would want to shelter them. Help them, in the only ways he knows how, removing the problems from their lives.

I also personally did not realise how chaotic and overly-eventful this season was until Amanda pointed it out, hahaha! I actually did not have an issue with this, after watching S2 when it first came out a while back and not being able to finish it (not bc it was boring btw), I jumped into S3 as a fresh start and the chaos was addictive as hell! Though I do maybe wish, either Marienne or Natalie were removed from the season to really give Joe/Love's Bonnie and Clyde dynamic more spotlight, and give us a chance for more chemistry at least, before things inevitably went downhill (they always would've, but seeing them as a power couple was all I wanted out of the season tbh!).

Also, Most episodes take place from HIS perspective, so it makes a lot of sense that that would be the narrative. It has to be. Because Joe's actions performed by a person who fully knows how horrible he is are not what is scary about that show. And that mindset and view of himself is what keeps him killing: wherever he goes, he finds new people he has to "protect", most of the time leaving them off worse than before.

I agree completely!!

I agree with this, and I also think he was probably just over being a parent. He’s what most people would probably call a psychopath and while I think he cares for his son, I don’t know that it’s in the same way a normal person would love their son. It’s a lot of work to be a parent and multiple times his son was an obstacle to being with/obsessing over Marienne. So tbh I think he just preferred to be unburdened in his stalking.

I loved that too, but I think it's a temporary thing, bc Joe said something that sounds like he will come back once he settles down with Marienne, i dont remember what tho, just that he said something

@@yanelig5282 I really hope he doesn't do this. You don't get to abandon your kid and then come back and demand to have him back 🤮. Henry will be much safer and happier where he is now

@@hillary96renteria82 I mean social services must be involved

Wow I can absolutely understand why that would throw you off if you weren't given any details. I'm guessing it's because that was directly linked to one of the main spoilers of the show around Gil? I know in my embargo notes from Netflix it specifically says we can't mention anything about Gil's death or the situation around it until the show premiered. If it helps, I'm sure no one is ever going to judge you for playing the role.

​@@AmandaTheJedi That could have been the case, but I'm also pretty sure I signed an NDA, so it just seems like a very big detail to simply gloss over, but that could have been a part of the whole contract, I guess. And thank you for the reassurance about it! I've fortunately gotten nothing but positive and supportive messages from a ton of people since the premiere, but it admittedly makes me feel pretty awkward when I'm receiving congratulatory messages from seemingly every other girl I've met since college for portraying such a creepy/horrible person. Again, it's all been kind words, just a lot to process at once. Haha

Wow, that's absolutely crazy that you weren't made aware of the full storyline of your character in advance. It DOES seem highly likely they were worried that you wouldn't take the role if you knew what it entailed beforehand. Major kudos on booking the role, though, and thank you for sharing your experiences of the shoot, and being on set. You were fantastic, despite only appearing in a single episode.

@@trinaq Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I definitely don't regret being a part of it; Mackenzie Astin is one of the nicest guys I've met in this industry so far, so it was very cool getting to know him for the day and be his fake son. Haha

You were GREAT! It sucks that they didn't tell you beforehand. I don't think I'd enjoy that either. I don't think anyone would judge you for the part but if someone does they're jerks. You gotta eat too. Anyone who can't/won't understand that is probably not a great person.

Love almost took Sharry and Carry’s parents away from them. She also took Ellie’s sole provider away from her.

Love needed to be taken out. She was a monster.

Delilah was a mother to ellie. She sliced the fuck out of her

Yeah and wasn’t she about to taken Henry’s father from him? Because to kill Joe would mean he would lose his dad. So either way he was about to lose a parent.

The au pair, who was a bad person as they show, was someone’s daughter.

I can get on board with that concept being their intention - but I just know Joe wouldn't be able to make himself give a fuck if it ever got in the way of his current obsession.

Absolutely! Actually I think Joe makes a point to pretend to help kids just so he can keep telling himself that he's a good guy. Yeah he kills other bad people like Paco's mother's psychotic boyfriend in season one and the comedian who preyed on Delilah and Ellie in season two. Joe likes to see himself as an executioner who metes out divine justice only to bad people who truly deserve to die. But really I think Joe kills people simply because he likes to and he doesn't want anybody getting in the way of wants. He convinced himself that Beck and Candace were evil monsters that broke his heart and therefore deserved to die for it. But really they were just flaky immature girls who didn't know what they wanted. But Joe decided that they deserved to die because they didn't want him in the end. He sends money to Ellie every month. But that doesn't fix anything because her sister is still dead because of him and Love. Money doesn't change the fact that he ruined her life. I'm glad they didn't bring Paco back after season one because Joe would have ruined his life too. Paco has enough problems just with his drug-addicted absentee mom. Good foster parents might have actually improved his life.

I saw somebody's interpretation that the kids served the point of showing how somebody so severely broken and disturbed can still show an outward appearance of being a good person to the public. Edit: oh she mentions that, I commented when I started the video

@@troygarcia6674 Yeah true! That's a very good point. It goes to show that you wouldn't necessarily know that some people are bad people til you get to know them really well. Often not until you were in danger from them yourself. It really shows how it's easy to get in bad situations with bad people. And you might not necessarily know you were in danger until it was too late. Which is really scary!

There's a scene in season 1 where Paco's parents are fighting and Joe is just listening in his apartment. Beck asks "why don't you do something?" and basically he says "I don't like getting involved in people's lives". Obvious irony aside, this shows that Joe doesn't really want to help people. He just wants to feel like he did. All Paco wants is genuine support and guidance and all Joe does is give him a book telling him to "suck it up".

100% agree

Indeed, Victoria is only 26, and is a relative newcomer to acting, yet she has an incredible screen presence, and is amazing in all of her roles!

She is such a good actress.

I actually wanted for Love to be alive by the end of the season, I wanted Joe to die, to be finally killed, but he is the protagonist, he is no hero obviously...

Yeah the worst part of this season for me is the fact Victoria is no longer in the show 💔 incredible breakthrough performance and she’s still doing incredible now I hope she gets into many other great productions

Nah i need the apology. Should have taken preventative measures

@@rickyvandusen1744 b I have a cold and I always wear a mask. Shut up.

That would have started to get repetitive too though, I’m glad they’re not doing the same thing twice.

@@D__03 I can see that, but the death felt like such a waste, relatively

Yeah I wish she didnt die tbh. Like maybe she woke up and survived the house fire in a supernatural way but eh I doubt it. Not because I like the character (I do like the actress) but because she gave some weight to the story. I guess I was hoping to see the effects put upon her and Joe (even if he did escape) and the Baby when everything was aires out.

@@micahcook2408 honestly I'd like to see her come back and want to kill or terrorize Joe for trying to kill her. I really want him to have an adversary who I'd his equal.

@@holyrod2001 I appreciate your opinion but I don’t feel the same way. There’s only so many storylines you can have with Love. It’s not the Love & Joe show. Her story has run its course and I’m fine with that. I thought this season was the most underwhelming so far and I think it’s partially because he was in this settled relationship. They had to go a bit all over the place to keep it interesting. I preferred it when it was just him getting involved with a girl. (Also I just hated her so much I’m glad to see the end of her tbh. 😋)

Right!? 😂 i hated them so much for most of the season but the therapy language during/after shooting each other in the cage just got me in all the right ways

@@MrCynthis Probably because they weren't being real for most of the season. We hated them because they were so fake but once they got locked up and aired out their demons they became more relatable and likeable.

@@strangelandian that makes a lot of sense!

yeah they were so obnoxious at first but had so many people rooting for them towards the end

Cary is a shining example of positive masculinity.

It honestly made me upset it felt like straight up character assassination

right 🤮. Every scene of them flirting made me feel like throwing up. I just wanted to take Love by the shoulders and shake some common sense into her

Her brother was a kid. College student is an adult.

@@jacobodom8401 we are not saying that legally it was wrong, but morally its in dicey territory and Love herself realizes this. they are almost 10 years apart and she is sort of using him

At first I thought she's gonna treat him as a replacement for Forty.

She was never super methodical. That's the whole point, and she has always been just as crazy as Joe. I do think this season was all over the place, but honestly nothing was too outlandish for me to be completely upset about.

what? Love was super impulsive, that's why she is so scared in season 3, she can't use the fixer any more, she killed someone when she was young without even thinking about it because her family could fix everything without problems I don't think nothing is meant to make Joe less evil, we just need victims, like the "ned flenders" guy, he was a saint and yet they put everything on him, but because Love is bad too Joe is lesser bad to you? I don't get it

Hey Den 😊

@@genshinlover123 I more so meant methodical in her actions concerning manipulating the situation to get what she wanted not her killings. u_u They wrote her to be someone who’s almost equivalent to Joe S2 and then just made her an irrational mess the whole of S3 that can barely function without killing everything in her way?

When has this show EVER "made sense?" It's a campy, ridiculous romp.

oh yeah there were a lot of reasons that 'natural immunity' thing was absolutely deluded

@@AmandaTheJedi The idea Joe finds the anti-vax crowd horrible is both fitting and brilliant.

@@Anynom lmao yea Joe kills people in the good ol' fashioned way for the usual reasons

Yes so true. An interesting fact about the measles vaccine that i found out though is that it doesn't always protect into adulthood, a few years ago i was required to show proof of MMR for work (preschool teacher) but my mom couldn't find the records due to moving and because i was an adult she didn't think it would be needed anymore, anyway i had to get a blood test proving immunity but turns out my antibodies were to low to be considered immune. The doctor said said it was obvious i was vaccinated because it was there just that it weakened over time. I had to re take it. My boss brought up a good point that if it hadn't been a requirement i wouldn't have known and could have gotten the measles. So when i saw the scene where he got sick and the neighbor was all "it's okay i was immunized" while he was taking care of him my first thought was that doesn't mean you can't get it. I know it's a fictional show and what happened to me was uncommon but it was still kinda crazy to me to watch.

@@amandacarbajal8590 thank you for sharing this info! super important and helpful bc i had no clue

Yeah the ending really got me as well but it was mostly because I didn't want Love to get killed off the show since she was such an interesting character 😔

Yeah I like it the most as well!! I rewatched all seasons to confirm this lol

Right? It made no sense that he spent days going through that with image processing etc without looking at obvious cameras at obvious times.

Because he has innability to grasp that the girls he "falls" are also quite "toxic" themselves. Case in point, the new one(librarian) on the surface seems fine but she has a crazy ex, history of drug abuse and is attracted and sleeps with a married man. But yes, he tries to "fix" their lives by getting rid of the problems they have or at least he thinks they have. While Love just does it on the whim. Like attacking that antivax idiot. Joe would probably never do that. Or at least be smart aboout it if he did.

@@johnsnow04 this! He is also in denial about his mother also being toxic, which is why he cannot mentally deal with the fact that the women he chooses are like her.

Salut, toi 😏

Silver lining is you now have Penn Badgley in your city

Foreshadowing to Love's last scene😬.

Imagine the therapist seeing the news report about them lol

I thought that was so forced. That therapist was so over the top, like why don't you just wink while saying that to the camera 🙄

*cue Curb Your Enthusiasm soundtrack*

I immediately cracked up at that 😂

True, I've always felt season 1's pacing was too slow, I watched it because of the hype. But season 3, that lightning pacing is everything.

they are, but Love is definitely crazier. she’s completely unhinged. Joe was able to control himself a lot of this season and if Love was just able to not kill someone, Joe wouldn’t have to do anything insane anymore unless season 4 has something to say about that

@@deanmoriarty6015 I mean I definitely agree she’s more impulsive, but I don’t think that equals her being more crazy. Like after Love kills Natalie she says she didn’t plan it like a psychopath. Meanwhile Joe actively plans out most of his murders so he can get away with it. I can’t decide which of those is more coo-coo. But that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♀️

It makes me laugh when people pick between both of them or root for Love to win in the end and take the show over. They’re both horrible people who deserved justice. Neither of them deserve to win anything or get the upper hand or whatever.

Love is 10000% crazier then joe it’s not even a question

To be fair obsessed with a married woman is not as bad as serial killing.

@@luisrafaelferminmontilla7987 yeah for Theo, he’s supposed to be 19 so he’s an absolute moron. Makes sort of sense and that is hell of a lot more common than a serial killer couple

I was SO rooting for Love when she cut her mom off from Henry, of course that support was short lived lol

The vineyard bit felt so jarring and not in a good way. I think they realized part way through they wanted the gay couple to raise Henry and so they hastily wrote the mom out of the picture so that it made sense

I just wrote a VERY similar comment lol. Like feelings of sympathy for Joe would start creeping in or I’d start rooting for his new romances to succeed or at the very least think it’s sweet. Or even when he was breaking down over Beck cheating on him this feeling creeps in like, oh he was so good to her and she broke his heart…no wait. No. He’s a killer and a stalker and he ruined her life and he is a terrible person. Stop it.

That trick causing so many problems this season lol

Love*

Love is sociopathic/impulsive, Joe is psychopathic/manipulative

I think one of my favorite moments in the show was when Love asked Joe when did he figure out about the cement foundation when they had to bury Natalie again. While they don't confirm it, the implication that Joe had, at least subconsciously, memorized/scouted out that location just in case he had to murder Natalie or even Love at some point really speaks volumes to how delusional and dangerous Joe is and made me really sympathize with Love's character. Sure, she's just as crazy as Joe and is much more openly willing to murder people, but given what she knows about Joe its really not hard to come to the conclusion that Joe would potentially murder her if he fell in love enough with another woman.

It's definitely a sociopath and psychopath dynamic.

This is one of those comments I’m gonna randomly think of for possibly the rest of my life 😂

yeah im never not gunna think about this

That's what I was thinking!

Good point

Not necessarily. In season 1 he is very protective of his neighbor's young son and almost acts like a second father to him. I didn't really quite understand why he hated the thought of a son so much

@@hillary96renteria82 I think he was terrified of having a son because he didn’t want his son to turn out like him. Like he saw himself in his son. But I also agree with you because, a girl could have also easily turned out like Joe….or even Love. But I honestly think Joe probably projected himself onto his child, and it was easier to project his negative traits (as a man) onto a boy than a girl

Nah they just butchered his character

WTF?

You coocoo for coacoa puffs

That is..a creepy thing to admit

@Hulagu Mongke haha, you

You’re right tbh

YES!!

I totally agree

I think in the Season 3 finale Joe comes to terms that he isn't a good person anymore when Love tell him Henry will know what he is. Then there is a long look on Joe's face. That's why he left Henry because he finally realized that he isn't good. I think there will be a more ruthless Joe in Season 4 because of this.

Season 1 was pretty mid if you compare it to 2, and 3. Mostly because Beck can’t compare to Love 💀

Same it's like, I know Love was toxic and a murderer herself but damnit no matter the character, Victoria just has my heart. I got so mad at Joe and I hope season 4 is a mega shit show for him cuz he killed my baby 😭

Agreed! I adore her character; and I liked this season a LOT, it was absolutely bonkers, but it was INTERESTING af, I loved seeing Love, not being able to tell what would happen next; ESPECIALLY WITH LOVE! The intensely emotional nature of character, while (in her mind) being the perfect devoted mother for her FIRST INFANT as well as the best partner for Joe; to see her try SO MUCH and so desperately to just be okay, not happy but alright and still entirely fail while watching her life constantly continuing to fall apart (like since she was born from what we know of her backstory) it was very interesting. I also relate to her (to a point obviously!!! ^^”) as someone who has a few mental illness related to extreme emotions, BPD for example, and is feminine and AFAB have outbursts and how ppl in the show and irl speak about it. Also, as someone who was also in an extremely abusive delusional relationship at her age, it was heartbreaking to go through but watching this season was like therapeutic? As in I could spot so many of the red flags (as in the small ones not like MURDERER or cheating) that I wouldn’t have a few years ago. TLDR I’m legitimately disappointed she’s gone BUT maybe they’ll do something like make her a ghost/hallucinations Joe has? I’d be so down for that.

If you haven’t, you should take the chance to read You Love Me. The book is so much better and drops the cage as a gimmick in book 1. Joes also feels & acts like a completely different person in the book compared to his TV counterpart.

I like Theo a lot too. He’s just a fucking idiot and I think he’s supposed to be 19

I kinda liked Sherry and Cary, they were pieces of shit but by God if they weren't fun Spoiler: Especially when they were in the cage

@@Usshamma I think hes supposed to be doing idiotic things because he's acting out, like his dad ignores him even before his step mum was murdered and then he fully spirals. Like I think it makes sense he gets obsessive over Love because he sees it as he can 'save her' from husband aka he has daddy and mommy issues just on a smaller scale than Joe lol. Plus Loves intentionally manipulating him too which furthers it

I like Marianne. Yes, she was a little flawed, but she had a moral center. I am glad she and her daughter got out. I agree on Dante, loved him. I might be partial to both of them though because - librarians.

@@skylar7720 I liked their character development a lot especially by the last episode. But they were still pretty unlikeable for most of the season. Which was on purpose obviously.

I agree, Season 3 was a drop off compared to the first 2 seasons but I was enjoying it overall. Like you said, When Joe kills Love and Just ends up in a new location. It really did feel like What was the point?

I think that's a fair point. Joe doesn't really learn anything. He doesn't grow in any tangible way, unlike a character like Dexter Morgan. It's the same storyline as the previous seasons, just presented in a different way. And like the other seasons, loose ends get tied up, like his son being sent away. That's just too convenient. Even in Dexter, when Rita died, Dexter had Harrison all the way until the final episode 4 seasons later.

Yeah I wish she didnt die tbh. Like maybe she woke up and survived the house fire in a supernatural way but eh I doubt it. Not because I like the character (I do like the actress) but because she gave some weight to the story. I guess I was hoping to see the effects put upon her and Joe (even if he did escape) and the Baby when everything was aires out.

I couldn't agree more, if it finished there, great! However, the fact they confirmed season 4 is like... what was all this for? Were back to square one of season 1. And it's so stale and repetitive.. like, I don't believe anything can be more entertaining than the peak of Joe's and Loves relationship. Now, to start all over.. it's like come on guys 😅 theyve written themselves into a corner. If it's him, finding a new girl and that's it. It'll probably bomb

@@micahcook2408 it wouldn’t surprise me at all if she survived. Joe’s victims have come back to life before.

That's initially what this was supposed to be but it's a hard thing to draw out for multiple books/seasons properly

@@AmandaTheJedi that's what I always say. So many, and I mean so many, shows would be near perfect if they just ended in one season. "You" was amazing in the first season, but the quality decreased going forward, it's just a plot you can't drag on and keep the same quality and message.

@@AmandaTheJedi that seems to be an incredibly common thread between all these "dark" Netflix shows.

I'd love a movie where it all seems super romantic cliché like they always bumb into each other at unexpected places, they can just talk for hours, guy remembers all the little things, etc. Just to in the last 15 or 20 minutes to reveal that in fact it has all been staged (kinda like we see it when love reveals all the stalking she has done, just not as murdery or over the top). Like this you get super inveszed into the male character as well and the female and you get super flipped out when it gets revelead that in fact the random romantic fate encounters have come from him stalking her and setting it up. Talking for hours? He researched the shit out of her interests to be able to give her the most awesome convo of her life - as if they were meant to be. Etc. It would also be interesting to have this revelation without the woman knowing. She still thinks her partner is this amazing guy, but we the viewer leave the theater knowing he tricked and manipulated her. What is going to happen to her?

Hm, well if you want that in comic/magna form there's this manga called "beware the villainess" that has this theme?

Agreed

I would've loved to see them stay together in the end in some weird, toxic, but ultimately good-for-them marriage and leave it at that. I love this show so much, but I'm getting tired of every season ending the same way. Near the end of this season, I saw most of the plot twists coming way before they happened because it's become so formulaic. Yes, a huge point of the show is that Joe is running in circles and repeating the same toxic behaviour, but that doesn't mean it's fun to watch multiple seasons when you know they'll end the same way :/

Precisely my thoughts at the end of this season. When I saw “it’s official: another season is coming” I was like nooooo let’s just keep it the way it is lol

I feel like it can go up till season 6 without it getting boring. Everything is being built up for joe to reflect on his character like the little dude in season 1, Jenna Ortega in season 2, and Theo in season 3. In the final season it will be his downfall I can’t wait

For me, it works because Joe has always been an unreliable narrator. He's being a massive hypocritic

@@FuryClouds That! Exactly that!

There are SO many people falling for that writing trap. People actually believe Joe is better than Love. Honestly I watch this show but I don't usually watch videos or discussions about it cause most people are just too dumb to get this kind of work, with an unreliable narrator. They just get caught in every trap the writers create and are never able to reflect about it.

@@biancasilva8172 I thought it was so clear that he was an unreliable narrator but guess not. Maybe it's because I'm a writer idk

@@biancasilva8172 it's actually insane, I've heard people defending Joe and STILL believing "he wants to chance, he's so close" And it's like, I get it if you thought he'd change at first but he's always proving HE WILL NEVER CHANGE

Omg I loved that show!

This is why I wish they didn't kill off love. I really feel like she had potential to be that nemesis. Someone just as crazy as he is and willing to do whatever it takes to get the upper hand. Candace was fine, but she wasn't willing to kill like Love was.

He doesn’t and he doesn’t. The nemesis aspect can be the things he can’t control, hence how beck in reality was terrible and was actually cheating on Joe or how Amy was actually only into Joe because she wanted to steal from the bookshop.

I agree! I feel like Joes story was at a good place to end but we could have seen so much more of Loves background with her parents and Forty

Omg that would've been great, she was the best part of this season

Love would get caught in the 2nd episode lmao, i like her character but let's be honest she's not half as smart or good at killing as joe is.

@@vibhavkambli5731 obviously not as she was currently but let’s not act like Joe started out as smart as he got later on

No

What I hated the most is that they clearly set up love to be absolutely impulsive with no sense of consequences, like killing Natalie while being on a tour with her and signing a lease, and making other very obvious mistakes… to only revert everything and make love this genius planner and make grow paralytics in her garden so she could use it to lace a knife? How did she become so calculating all the sudden?

@@Usshamma she learned off joe

Same

Same I tried rewatching season 1 but it felt so boring in comparison to season 3. Especially with the characters a lot of them were unremarkable including Peach and Beck.

Same, season 1 was kind of boring but when season 2 came around I really started to love the show, mainly because of Victoria Pedretti, she is just simply an amazing actress. The twist ending to season 2 with Love was the moment I knew I was in love with the show and will watch it until the end

Same! I watch this type of show looking for the exaggeration, for the drama and crazy things. 😂 And, boy, was I entertained! I think it's kind of boring to watch this stories trying to always seek for logic and realism. Ps: sorry about my English - I don't practice much

i think almost everyone feels this way, in actuality, season 1 and 2 were great too, but the coming ones were always better. This take of hers is horrible.

Yeah that scene totally made me cry too. But isn't it kind of weird for two adult opposite sex siblings to be taking a bath together? Even if they're twins?

@@aprilandpedro9823 Yea that messed me up too and I was like wtf, but at the same time I feel like it's not unusual for Love and Forty since boundaries were always being crossed with them by one another

@@yanelig5282 Yeah you're right about that for sure! I always sensed some pretty strong incestuous undertones between those two and between Forty and their mom as well. Super cringe!

@@aprilandpedro9823 in that scene I didn’t look at it that way to be honest. She was at a breaking point and then forty was there with her. I was honestly just crying like a baby …

@@alexispascal9245 You're probably right. but there was a lot of really wrong stuff going on in that family. Like Forty having a really inappropriate relationship with the nanny as a kid! I'm glad they didn't make Forty as much of a sociopath in the show as he was in the Hidden Bodies book. If they had made him like in the book I don't think anyone would watch the show. He's way WAY more likeable in the show. I hated to see him die in the show. When he died in the book I thought, "Yeah I figured he would die in some stupid easily avoidable way like that." He didn't go the same way in Hidden Bodies. I don't know who's read the book or not so I won't spoil it... 😉I will say the series departs further and further from the books as it goes on. You can't even technically say the show is based on the books anymore.

True, you know that you're a psychopath when you make Joe Goldberg look saintly by comparison!

Right he actually only killed one person.

You don't get the show lol.

I still feel like he’s worse than her

I know, I liked it 😂

I enjoyed it too it made me laugh

Haha, I liked it too, but as soon as Amanda or Alex Meyers claim it's crazy or insane, I'm right on board that band wagon!

Same. Not my favourite season but I had a shit ton of fun watching it.

AHA I don't think it's terrible! It's just a lot

maybe at the end of season 4, they gotta have the show end at one point before it gets too repetitive so perhaps we will see that in season 4

Because it's fiction, no real people got away with anything, and a show called Joe in Jail only works with tigers. Also Joe perpetrates most violence against men. Love is more likely to kill women.

@@mikecatterson1 the show was initially a dissection of over-romanticized tropes where men stalk, harass, and abuse women 😐 it started out self aware but it just devolves into the Joe Show. That's what I'm pointing out as being odd in the narrative structure.

@@mikecatterson1 "no real people get away with anything" Looks like we live on completely different planets.

What Joe's changed alot He's become a self aware stalker. Season 3 shows that Joe is slowly coming to terms with his issues not his murdering stalking ones but the surface level stuff like abandonment issues and what not

@@Argos-xb8ek Eh, I disagree. I think Joe was fairly self-aware in S1 and definitely in S2. It just feels like he goes through the exact same cycle each season -- he stalks, realizes he's wrong but continues to stalk/murder anyways until it all comes to a climax and he has to restart with a new fixation

The fact that I could hear his voice while reading this?! 😂

Hill House and Bly Manor.

same

This was a huge problem for me as well. Both the age gap and her clearly seeing him as a replacement Forty made me think their relationship should be platonic so I was completely shocked when they took it so far. The only redeemable thing about it is that Love is in no way a morally sound character anyway. But it bothered me that neither her mom or friend raised red flags upon finding out about "the affair"

I had huge issues with the Theo/Love plot. Like it just seemed so out of place and kind of out of character for Love? It was just so weird and I wish the writers hadn't put this subplot in the season.

Don't worry it's not iffy, they make it clear that Love is essentially preying on him to sate her desire to feel well..desired. Its horrid cause it also shows the many times where she was willing to take advantage of his crush on her for her and sometimes Joe's advantage.

I really hated that plot it felt so out of place for love and honestly it seems like it was just placed there so people could turn on her for when Joe eventually killed her

Easily the worst part of the season because I felt like each scene with them just plays out the same “Oh hi love heheheh the door was open so here I am” “Oh hi love I threw this nerf football over the fence, it was on purpose heheh” You get the point.

Me too I laughed too much on this season

@@shaycat13 it's odd b/c I almost always agree with her.....

@@jnewmark41 same!!

Same i ended up finding myself skipping through those scenes i lost alot of interest in him this season

why not? It just makes him a more interesting character. clever viewers are able to recognize his semi-sympathetic backstory and still understand that he’s a monster.

If anything it makes his character more realistic since it's a fact that many people who become "monsters" were abused in the past. Past abuse is an explanation and never a justification for their actions.