Let's Talk Transmissions with Moonshine Harley-Davidson | Shop Talk Episode 44 

I'm a service writer at Black Hills Harley-Davidson. I dig the bike builds and like seeing these kinds of videos that show more technical aspects and information. Always like learning new stuff especially when it helps with the job. Good stuff guys.

I love Moonshine Harley Davidson.

Appreciate you sharing your knowledge in an honest way, not just scaring people into spending money.

Magnaflux is a brand that sells NDT equipment and materials, you are talking about Magnetic Particle Inspection. I'm a certified Aerospace NDT Level 3 inspector. I'm in the same boat, 3rd gear just blew behind my 128ci big bore 😢

I love the moonshine videos they are very educational right down to earth and give you great ideas if you want to do them or need to do them. Thanks Guys keep on doing what you do I watch every one of them and maybe one ride I will stop by and say hello.

Ok sorry about saying you were goofing around to much on the last video. This video was perfect. Oh my understanding of annealed is to heat treat the metal bellow a forging temperature around 650 to 800 degrees Fahrenheit depending on the alloy to allow the metal molecules to aline so they can flex with out breaking and yet still remain very very hard as in Japanese swords. I learned this many years ago after building a forge and learning to shoe horses. But it's been about forty years since I shoed a horse or made a tool or sword. I'm a retired master electrician and watch these videos to be able to keep up with the maintenance and repair on my motorcycles. I kinda wish I could hang out in a shop like yours and help out just to learn for free. But a retired man has to have other hobbies like gardens and fishing and riding and some exercising to stay in good enough shape to try and keep up with you young fellows. Thanks for the great information. Mike from Maryland P.S. My Father in law (an amazing rider) road till he was 84 until he had to have a triple bypass.

Some great information!!! My winter project is a build up on an 85 FXRT. Should be fun.

Great vids, we was at ya'lls shop today... Before i did my 128 motor work, 3rd gear broke and took out every gear but 6th. The motor was just a stage 2 at that time 2 years ago. keep up the cool vids !

Ya'll put out great videos, a lot of valuable information. Definitely need to get with you about having this done.

Honesty. How refreshing!! 👍

Thanks for this! I am hoping you are correct... my style of ride is very easy and only solo. My 2023 FXST was making a howl bring the rpms down from 3rd, to 2nd and a small amount to 1st coming off the high to a stop. she had a nagging bottom rocker box leak at 280 miles so 3 times she was in for warranty work to fix 280-600 miles. I ride very easy specially this is a brand new machine and I respect the first 600-1,000 mile for breakin. I cruise on the highway mostly, after the 2rd try to fix that rocker box leak and telling the dealer about that howl when down shifting I was offered the screaming eagle stage 3 107 to 119. as they started the final dyno in the first 3 minutes the transminsion let go. thankfully the mechanic shut her down and my telling them about the howl went on record and now at 600 miles I have a new stock trans and pistons & cylinders. my question was they said I did not need any clutch beef up, just the new springs. I s this something I did by driving her too easy? Is there something I need to do to not have this happen again. I have been riding all brands for 55+ years and this is my first BRAND NEW Harley, had 3 used Harleys over the years and never had a transmission problem on any bike.

Love you guys!!! Your friends up North - Halifax Canada

Awesome video. You guys are a great team. Thank you.

Great video guys, just subscribed. Wondering cost on this ? Keep up the awesome and informative videos, much love from Canada!

R&D motor sport in Florida did mine and its still alive after 8 years

Good video guys and very honest!

Always learning something watching your videos..👏👏🤙

love the vids - keep'm coming.

Losing 6th gear brought me here. Stock 114 Air cleaner Removed Catalyst Slip ons I ride it like king of the baggers and scrape frame everywhere I go I just replaced comp ramp (which exploded) with a star racing Now tranny problems I need an assembled moonshine Harley out the door price Lol PS Thank You guys

Some of the problems talked about I had on my first 19 RGS with Stage 1. Issues going to 3rd gear, going to 4th gear. Only when riding hard. I have another 19 RGS now with a 131. May look into this.

New sub I get a good vibe from these guys. Seems honesty is getting harder to find

Love my bike in the back ground "Silver Fox"!

Not to be that guy but it’s not metal memory, I think you mean malleable. Metal memory is when you bend a piece of metal cold and it goes back to the original state when you heat it up. Malleable is metal that is easy bendable like aluminum. Love the videos keep up the good work.

I called yesterday wanting some information on the transmission work. Guy had know idea what I was talking about. I have a grudge box now and can’t get the cruise to work and it is noisy ! Wanting to get stock trans worked by you guys.

Swap in a baker grudge box. Hands down the toughest.

hey cool info you make and that you show it in a cool way :) I have a little question if you also fix V ROD and if it can be 6 gears and if it will give some differences in the cool way :) and with horse power and if you have info what is the best way to get the best balance horse power and that it can last in a cool way :)

Hey guys, I have a question. Would this be considered “back cutting” the gears. Or is back cutting actually cutting the face of the gear for better engagement. The way you guys explained this makes me think that this is back cutting.

I have the older 5 speed with straight cut gears, i beat the crap outta that thing and it shifts perfectly...about to turn 50thou miles, lucas 75/140 gear oil in it every time.

Yer my Dyna misses third gear when pinned. 😳 … Not me, it’s the bike ! 😂 Need more poWERRRRRrrrrrRrrrRrr 🤘

Great Channel guys

I have a question, I have a 2ooo ultra classic harley davidson with 35000 miles, I'm having slivers and shaving on my speed sensor,changed the fluid nothing in the pan or on the magnet, drove it30 miles checked the sensor it had more shavings on the sensor, need your input.

Shredded 3rd in my 2019 lowrider (at 10 months old 24k miles) bent the shaft and destroyed everything in a 2020 Roadglide (11 months old 21k miles) both just cam, exhaust, tunes and all lol maybe I’m too rough 😂 do you guys have a ship in program? I’m waiting on the new lowrider to hit the floor and fixing problems first would love to not have to get a baker lol

Are the transmissions the same for the 107&114?

I had my 17RGS turned into a Trike , running a Kool Trikes back end. Would I want to have my gears anealed as mentioned in the video ?

If a lock up blows the trans it is time for a tougher trans. When I built my 120R, I bought a Baker trans. If your building a hot motor with a stock trans, I think your kidding yourself. If you can’t afford the trans today, I will bey your buying one down the road.

Would you say a bike making around 130TQ/120Hp is a closer to stock bike that would need this? Compared to the 150TQ/150Hp builds out there.

I really appreciate all the informative videos you guys put out (especially the shootout ones). Looking forward to the larger cam vid comparisons with the head work done. I noticed that it appears that you guys do an opposite taper to the shift dogs vs a baker grudgebox (if I'm not mistaken?) which they state insures positive engagement and eliminates hop out. Just curious what your thoughts are on this? Actually in the market for either a grudgebox or sending mine into you guys. Thanks again for all u dudes do.

I installed a baker 7 speed. Whats your thoughts on them

I am using Healtech Quick shifter on my 2013 FXDB and it jumps out of 3rd gear frequently.Will this improved dogs help with 3rd gear ?

Where can I buy your transmission ? It's not on your website

If you had your choice and money wasn’t the issue, would you have a rebuilt Harley trans or a baker 6 speed grunge box?

What is the cost vs. replacing with a Jims or Baker unit?

what about the baker 7 speed.

I’ve got a 22RGST all stock but slip ons. I ride fairly hard coming from sport bikes and dirt bikes. 2nd and 3rd gear up shifts seem excessively loud. And the sound doesn’t always sound quite the same. Can be a hell of a wack sometimes. And some times it feels like the shifter kicks back a tiny bit. Should I be worried or is this normal? Any help appreciated!

Thanks Gentlemen ! Well Done/;-))))) Peace/;-))

Why not just run a Baker grudgebox?

Great review, What do you think of having a Baker DD7, ( 7 gear )? Thank you

How's the Baker Grudge box compare?

I have a 2013 RG ( Stage 2 ), My 5th Gear is gone... Question, Does the Bakers 7 Speed Transmission have an Advantage vs. Stock?? I plan to keep my bike, If I replace the Motor eventually, I would consider a 120R, I currently have 55K, I love Long Distance riding and occasionally street racing. Thoughts?

You couldn't release this like 2 weeks earlier? I just bought a Barnett Lock-Up clutch for my 128ci Stage III with stock gearbox. In all honesty, I won't be racing my bike. I just like to be able to pull away from the traffic light faster than that damn Tesla who's trying to cut me off before the merge.

Update on my no 6th gear. Looks like the dogs have been rubbing on the gear for a while. Almost like something in the fork is spaced wrong or just a bad fork from the factory. replacing all bearings, 5th gear shift fork, 5th gear dog ring, and main drive gear. PS Has anyone else experienced this? PPS Don’t use syn3

Why does it clank into 3rd gear sometimes? Even when I don’t get on it. 19 SGS

I want to feel a lot of pull from a dead stop...like one would feel in drag racing. Which Harley or Harley Engine will give me that feeling or do I need to get something like a Kawasaki ZX-14r?

Very informed mechanics here

What does this cost if I send it to you

How do you know when to shift if you don't hit the rev limiter? Asking for a fiend.

Whats the cost?

2017 Road Glide Special rough shifting transmission. All gears. Can it be fixed. Less than 1700 miles

I ride mainly 2up about 400 lbs all together. We ride as follows. 2nd gear coming out of a roundabout, on ramps etc and hit it to 110 mph then Back off and chill at or around 70 to 80 miles cruising. Occasionally rip it against my Indian buddy’s but almost never do I hammer it off the line. My question is I want to do a motor build ( most likely a 131 kit in my 19 SGS ) I had a lock up clutch in my 16 and 2 stock clutch baskets broke. Causing crank and tranny damage So what type of clutch should I go with should I change out the basket if so, trask?is my stock tranny and crank good up to high 140 TQ and HP? I live in Mn so I want to build it right from the get to limit maintenance issues. Even thinking of shipping it your way over the winter for this build. Thanks much in advance

I find myself in third gear the majority of the time... just the area I ride and not much freeway stuff.

any looseness in a component can result in a binding and loss of horsepower

Tech question. I'm more or less a cruiser, but I'm accustomed to shifting without using the clutch. I did it a lot on my Sportster. I got rid of that and bought a 2020 Street Bob 107. If I'm not slamming it up and down, and doing rather smooth clutchless shifts, my only real skill actually. How hard is that on the crank and transmission?

Where can I order a 6 speed transmission for 2020 road glide.

Do you know of any dealers in Australia that are doing this mod?

I need a trans, 99 t.c. s @s 95 " . Built . Should I go 6 spd . I hope , to

My transmission blew 3rd gear on my 2018 flhxs at 7500 miles has stage three harley davidson put new tranny in cost me 700 dollars for labor what transmission fluid do you use or does it matter.

My bike won’t be stock any more. After you guys get done with it.

I think they have a good amount of military vets working here. I’m here for the sarcasm.

My 19 is stock and the 3rd gear went out and I had to buy a new tranny FYI. 4,000 miles on the bike.

Having a problem with a 2009 heritage 6

Just had a Baker Grudge box with a Barnett Scorpion clutch put in. Will not go into neutral when it is running. Any ideas ?

I say just ditch the stock transmission & install a Grudge Box transmission which has straight cut gears ⚙️ & is absolutely bulletproof!

Ive nvr seen a transmission break on a m8.😮

How about towing a camper. With. 2020 ultra

Let me rephrase it do I need work done to my baker 6 speed overdrive. And I am running 160 horse 182 tork

Do Baker transmissions do this cut the 5°

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Damn everyone misses a shift once in awhile lol

Very sad these transmissions are so weak on a 30k dollar stock bike. I think harley should make a rolling chassis bike. Empty crankcase and empty trans case. And a empty primary, no clutch or basket and Definitely no compensator 😂

Ive heard rumors of a 7 speed?

Okay... If the gears are made of aluminum, how would you magnaflux test them?

Wait people don’t hit the rev limiter every day? It’s the call of out ppl. I do it every day

But kind I find neutral better?

does harley have a option that uses gear to gear drive between engine and clutch ?

Look at one of those vs a baker lol

Give me the Baker Grudge transmission.... Problem solved for life

Grudge box?

The heat treating is fucked, so the gears are too hard. It's a manufacturing defect.

Ah. To only have more money rather then more work.

Buy a Harley then update everything.

Skip this and buy a Baker trans

Buy a baker and you won’t have a problem

Can You Say BAKER…?

😳6:37 Did you assume gender!?

i never liked harleys due to the fact that for the premium price, its as if they only did half of what they were cabable of.if honda took the same approach they would still be trying to sell 2021 versions of the 1970 cb750.one would think the harley execs would tire of being the laughing stock of the 2 wheel world.performance wise.because they really are.if not for the aftermarket, harleys would have alot of performance compitition from the japanese scooter market.i couldnt imagine just bareley beating a suzuki bergman 650 in a race on a 15k dollar harley.the harley execs must be either greedy as hell or doing some very potent drugs if they cant see their problems.american youth WONT buy overpriced SLOW motorcycles.hence harleys problem with sales to younger riders.when a honda 500 can kick a stock 1200 xl's ass.& be more reliable.

Mumbo jumbo

How about other transmission manufactures like Baker grudge box and 7 gears and adding reverse gear

What transmission is best when running 150-170 plus HP and 150-170 plus TQ? I’m not a racer but intend to ride it like I stole it

Keen to get my M8 gearbox done, Down under Australia 🇦🇺. Can i get your email please

Haha "bounces of the rev limiter every once in awhile" more like every time i ride😅