Lethal Fear of Abandonment | Laura Lee Day Case Analysis 

Says a lot about our society doesn't it?

That’s because they are fire in the sack!

When the bar is low... 😂

I wanted to comment the same thing. Apparently "convicted murderer" is not an impediment. Also, so many people either can't afford college, or end up with debilitating debt, but here we have this exemplary individual not only getting a degree and a job in her field, but she can afford to opt out of it because "boredom". Something definitely wrong with this world.

I ended up married to a man w bpd/hpd traits. It's what I was raised by. I ended up divorced bc I did the work to be able to decide I have a choice

that would change so many things for the better

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My sister took psychology classes and has never been successful in applying it to real life situations. She got mentally stuck somewhere along the course. - My other sister initially came out of the class with "women smart, men dumb" mentality, that is until life experiences showed her it was more complex than that. - I had to figure it out via observation, and self reflection. It was painful, but I dropped a lot of bad views and now understand why my relatives behave the way they do.

Agree. I also think there should be a free handbook entitled "How to recognize and avoid an abuser" available at drug and grocery stores

While I agree wholeheartedly with the need for better awareness & education about mental health (for kids _and_ adults), it should focus on situational & self-awareness rather than identifying traits or disorders. Human behaviour is highly complex & actions need to be assessed _in context..._ a destructive behaviour in one person (eg. focussing on their needs only) might actually be constructive for another (focussing on their own needs when they usually prioritise everyone else's). We should be teaching kids to use active listening, empathy & critical thinking to _assess_ a situation. The danger of categorising behaviours is that they are easily misinterpreted & misapplied... not every selfish act is malicious, and being selfish doesn't make you narcissistic. That's why Dr Grande is so careful with explaining _how_ he comes to his conclusions...there are no straight lines between a behaviour & a pathology.

That stopped me, too

I was thinking, how does that happen ?

honestly appalling. I would assume the hospital hiring her didn't actually do a background check???

I thought the same. 🤔 Considerable ramifications for mental health care & unfortunate clients!! Jeeeeze...

She probably worked in a center for battered women.

That’s even worse. I didn’t know that. When you have kids, you have to vet people out. You can’t afford to date just anyone. I know guys who are into crazy love but they don’t have kids. You can’t afford to experiment with just anyone especially when you have kids. They are the most affected by it.

Women jails are 1/10 the size of men's, but immorality is equal between the sexes

Yes! Enjoying Dr T's cheery hibiscus flower shirts - fabulous! 😊👌

Hello, Rejane, this one really hurt, I've been unfortunate, too Loke , after toddlers and children, who have drowned, at least the parents try cpr, and ring , emergency services quickly. Not all survive, but at least efforts, have been made to save them, not like that dreadful, women.

@@sixthsenseamelia4695 Nice shirt, clashes with the faux brick.

"and does not render CPR after the child has drowned? " If by 'drowned' we take that as 'already deceased' then CPR would nearly make a mockery out of things. Anyway, yes, I agree she is horrible, what with the murdering of people.

@@theasianjaywalker4455 Some people whose lungs are filled with water, whose hearts have stopped and are no longer breathing, can be saved with CPR. Sometimes the CPR has to occur for a long time. Plus the person doing the CPR needs to know to first turn the person on their side, removed blockages in the mouth and air canal and try to allow all water to pour out before conducting CPR.

Hey I have similar story. Only my mom had two kids not 4… and we lived in north jersey not Miami. But other than that , pretty similar. My mom did / still does have many issues with her personality , she could be very wicked at times. But she means well to be honest. She doesn’t do mean , awful things on purpose. But she does get very angry and turn verbal abusive and then apologize afterwards. But yeah anyway me and you have a similar story. Hope you’re doing better in life now. Later ✌️

@@justincraig398 right on. Ty. Yes, my mom didn’t mean it. She was a doll, she wasn’t well.

In the 80ies and 90ies us children would literally take off from home for hours and come back injured having fallen from trees, bruised from riding our bikes, etc. I don't see it as a miracle you and your siblings having survived going swimming with the supervision of your mom. Tragic accidents happen, yes. But you can't helicopter children all day every day, especially when it's in a ratio 4:1. I'm sure your mom didn't imagine her life doing this without a partner to share all the responsibilities. I'm diagnosed with narcissism, I don't have children yet. My mood swings and anger management have improved with therapy over the years but I still have tantrums with my husband on bad days. Sometimes I wonder if I should be a mom one day or let it be because I'm scared of the damage I could do to their mental health. All I can hope for is that I'll always be trying my best cause I can't recover from my mental illness.

@@justincraig398 ok so this sounds like my dad. And it’s been so confusing til now. I wonder if it’s bipolar. Anyway thx for saying this. Because it’s clearer now.

@@helpyourcattodrive exactly.

She's an angel compared to Diane Downs.

I’ll never understand ever. It makes me sick too.

Are you really that surprised? Yeah it's fucked up but not surprising. People have been doing worse things ever since we came into existence. 300 000 years of people treating each other like shit.

Right, when he immediately started to talk about her first crime I thought I accidentally skipped ahead of the video.

I'm certainly not a sitting duck. If you deal with the world rolling on top of you, that's you. And a fairly ignorant statement.

Exactly what I thought of too (Gene Tierney was fabulous). There was also a made for TV movie starring Loni Anderson and Patrick Duffy called, "Too Good to be True"

@@Hummingbirds2023 one of my favorite movies of all time

This reminded me of Diane Downs too. Pure evil 😈

the only "treatment" these people need is a life sentence.

@@thecatatemyhomework or The Chair. It's not fair that they are using up air. 😠

Curious - How many years between the divorce and her sons' college graduation?

@@zumbamommy5036 My sister was divorced in 2009 when my oldest nephew was going into his Senior year in high school. So that nephew graduated from college in 2014 and the youngest one in 2015.

It looks better on my floor

@@humanipulationnation lol

@@humanipulationnation handle ya bizzness...

@@shelleydunkle7867 32 years wow. That is amazing. I🤦‍♀️m getting there... one day at a time. Thank you 🤗

i'm 3 years sober this June. It IS possible! Hope yr still good. (& yes! real men wear pink!)

Hi Dr. Grande. Your shirt is very nice and colorful! I had a hibiscus flower pot full of beautiful hibiscus. My ex threw it at me as I ran away. Thankfully we're divorced now. What a relief. Seems like this criminal is a criminal just like my ex, always either murdering, threatening lives, or beating people up. What a bunch of losers! May they rot in hell! I love your channel & will watch again, peace to you your family as well, love, Janine Smiley😀😎😍🤩🙂🦊🦓💎💍👡👒👞👢👟👠💄📿🍎🍇🍉🍊🍓🍅🍌🍍🎂🥧🍰🍪☕☕

@Dani what’s the show and where can we watch it?

I watched it too. It was interesting. David seemed a bit naive. I think it was on ID channel.

@@elleblue07 I saw this crime featured I think, on Dateline. It was definitely one of the network ( NBC) crime TV shows...they come on Friday/ Sat/ Sunday nights ... Dish automatically records primetime shows...I have mine set for Friday - Sunday because I LOVE true crime like Dateline and 20/20...

When I read about that case, I was dumbfounded by the fact that the father ran out of the house and left his daughters with their homicidal mother. At least that’s the way the story presented it.

@@bballmomma5900 That's not accurate. He was in fact trying to shield both and get both out of the house. But you can't physical save both--- he apparently kept going from daughter to daughter resulting in both being unguarded at times.

Dr Grande has the best shirts.

11/10 shirt

I came for the shirt!!

a twice like shirt!

I had to rewind the beginning of the video because the shirt was so loud. Really. I do enjoy the commentary. The doctor has a good sense of humor.

I keep asking what LTBG means and I can't get a straight answer.

She wasn’t going to be alone. She had a husband who supported her through the trial and a stepson. That was her family. She was clearly self destructive and unable to manage her emotions. She killed a boyfriend instead of just leaving.

@@C.C-os1cz "She wasn’t going to be alone. She had a husband who supported her through the trial and a stepson." - It's a very special world you live in to make such a casual statement like that without pointing out any of the red flags. That's a divorce-quality statement lol.

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Both my daughter and I are terrified of the ocean. We just like hanging out in the sand and look at the water or listen to the waves. Sometimes I will go in the water. I have swam in a river once as a dare but I get antsy around water. When kids are in the water I get anxious. I can’t believe she let him swim without a life jacket or not being around him. I don’t think she loved her husband. The kid looked so much like his dad. How could she not see that? She didn’t love the kid version of her husband and drown him. My little half sister reminds me of my sister who was born after me. I tend to subconsciously want to spoil her because of that connection.

What does "Frenched" mean? I'm assuming you mean she tongue kissed him, but I don't think I've ever heard the term before. I'm genuinely curious is all

@@rubievale French kiss is another term for tongue kissing.

@@tarabooartarmy3654 yup, I knew what French kissing was, but I'd never heard it used as a verb like that before. I have heard it used occasionally when describing oral, but I figured that that wouldn't be cool at a press conference

@@rubievale ah, yeah. Frenching is a short way of saying it.

I think many women stay married for this reason. I think it’s to protect their child especially if the guy has history of picking the wrong women or is impulsive. David didn’t really know the woman and married her right away. It’s a big risk. You have to see people in their worst moments and how they handle stuff. But you also have to do a background check.

Being CPR trained doesn't affect a person's level of neurosis, potential for panic, etc. She's still a killer though.

I also want to know where were the lifeguards?

@@C.C-os1cz 10/18/23 Exactly. Want to add a comment bcz just happened last week. A Man (unknown to my 31 yr old Son no training) gave him the heimlich as he was choking inside fast food place at lunchtime, he was the only one who acted! While others watched, kept eating, etc. Most more likely to start filming, Man wouldn’t of made it for 911 rescue. Glad my child reacted❤️🙏🏻

Exactly

Her criminal history is a big indicator that she did. Anyone with kids knows you don’t do that. It’s like letting a kid drive your car on their own.

lmfao... true statement.

@@sashafierce9879 My Dad has been making deadpan jokes like this for as long as I can remember. My poor Mum never found the humor but I couldn't help but laugh. Like that commercial where people are turning into their parents, I now find myself following in his footsteps lol

Yeah the geico commercial..lol.. and his Hawaiian shirts been going with them just perfectly.