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Lets learn SCVI - Breakdown of how the Reversal Edge mechanic works 

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@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
SoulCalibur VI has now joined the "Lets Learn" category of videos! Following after Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite and Dragon Ball Fighterz! So the Reversal edge technique is a lot more than rock paper scissors. Not to say the least that there is actually more than 3 choices, but everyone's rock, paper, and scissors are completely weighted differently! There are a bunch of universal truths to the mechanic which I break down in this video, while also showing a devastating character example at the end why you need to be aware of peoples options other than just guessing R/P/S.
@MrMockRock
@MrMockRock 6 лет назад
The in-game tutorial really needs to be updated, there's _so much_ info in this video that the game never bothers to teach you. Amazing work!
@lastburning
@lastburning 6 лет назад
Still better than the Tekken in-game turorial. :P
@PrimeKeroHS
@PrimeKeroHS 6 лет назад
As an Asteroth main in 5, I went with him in 6 as my girl Amy isn't here and the first time I hit that throw out of the ring, I couldn't contain my shock, surprise, disgust, and laughter. The best thing I've ever seen. Great video as always!
@MrDelmot1
@MrDelmot1 6 лет назад
I was streaming today with 18 homies (up and coming..) and I dubbed that move the "yeet" in my chat lmao good times
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
As for whats coming next on the channel, don't worry DBFZ isn't going anywhere! However when a new game shows up gotta be fair and cover it! A video on Goku Black lvl 1 super loops will be going up in a few days, and as for more SCVI stuff, a lot more covering mechanics, and starting to get into some character specific stuff hopefully soon.
@divinearclight
@divinearclight 6 лет назад
Can you do Soul charge next?
@upchuckles243
@upchuckles243 6 лет назад
I'd love a video on how okizeme works in SC. I feel like I get combo'd more than I need to (especially by Sig/Nightmare) but I don't totally get why.
@javidrafiek
@javidrafiek 6 лет назад
This video explains the mechanic perfectly. Now I gotta find out all the unique character options.
@codytyler9078
@codytyler9078 5 лет назад
um... they all the same vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/180fa540-c2ce-4f17-91f3-05d011322296/scale-to-width-down/1200
@ToranosukeEdo
@ToranosukeEdo 6 лет назад
Best explanation of RE I've been able to find. Thank you. Honestly though, I wish this mechanic had been left out.
@kamikage9420
@kamikage9420 6 лет назад
I did like the attention to detail that every character has some new interesting thing to make them stand out, like Yoshimitsu's soul gauge steal, Taki's bomb ninpo, the edgelord moves shared by both Zweihanders, Geralt's signs and the mysterious purple orbs Zasalamel summons. (I wish I knew what those orbs did) It's cool to see their unique attributes also coming out in the way Reversal Edge and Lethal Hits work too.
@upchuckles243
@upchuckles243 6 лет назад
I was skeptical of this mechanic when I first saw it but in practice it's awesome. Not only is it interesting when you're in it, but the move itself is an interesting defensive option with advantages and disadvantages.
@IAmTheGreatest514
@IAmTheGreatest514 6 лет назад
Keep these coming! Early and often, please and thank you
@ashlynx1
@ashlynx1 6 лет назад
I'm a big fan of this mechanic, I love being able to get inside an opponent mind. Plus Tira has a use for each option. A in Gloomy leads to a small combo tree B in Jolly heals and Gloomy a does a unique high damage attack K will guarantee to switch mode.
@morriganrenfield8240
@morriganrenfield8240 4 года назад
Well this was useful! I mostly understood it but I didn't know that if you guard second round it's 100 percent guard break
@KatrinaAmaxas
@KatrinaAmaxas 6 лет назад
I'm gonna be binge watching these until I get the game. This video in particular was SUPER helpful since I didn't fully understand everything about Reversal Edge.
@grandfatherwilkens2987
@grandfatherwilkens2987 6 лет назад
Best SC6 guide video I've seen so far. Would love to see a Yoshimitsu guide
@ryanmaes9551
@ryanmaes9551 6 лет назад
Dude, you do the best mechanics breakdowns ever:) thank you
@LWarrior91
@LWarrior91 6 лет назад
Idk why I found Astaroth’s ring out throw to be hilarious lmao! That’s a dirty move 😂
@ryanwitt1993
@ryanwitt1993 6 лет назад
Thank you for breaking this down. Hyped your doing SC content!
@thejudge5482
@thejudge5482 6 лет назад
I think I have the same thought process as you about the RE, this game has so much you can learn from with-in the game itself, it would be nice if you could inform people how to use the in game character guides when you do the character specific stuff
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Namco has traditionally always done a poor job kinda surfacing how their games work. I might do another tips video or something to make sure people know whats going on.
@Kai-po8vz
@Kai-po8vz 5 лет назад
This video is a great help! Thanks a bunch!
@phdbot4483
@phdbot4483 6 лет назад
As I was playing this game, I actually started enjoying learning the depth within the Reversal Edge's Rock-Paper-Scissors mechanic! Also, as an Astaroth main, I've enjoyed abusing it due to him having fewer ways to get out of pressure outside of it, plus as shown, his B and K options are really good with the former RIDICULOUSly so! XD
@adriensebbane
@adriensebbane 4 года назад
This video was very informative ! Thank you for sharing that. :)
@on3punchd4ndy22
@on3punchd4ndy22 6 лет назад
I love your channel man! Hope it continues to grow
@Dopamine9481
@Dopamine9481 6 лет назад
Love these videos. Thank you.
@dextersue6561
@dextersue6561 6 лет назад
Thanks for the coverage, I bought this game only because I heard you were going to cover it.
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Well thank you for the vote of confidence friend!
@ricardoelizadle941
@ricardoelizadle941 6 лет назад
Holy Hell I love these videos Thank you! My Best Friend has something coming at him now!
@ArtFr0g0
@ArtFr0g0 6 лет назад
Thanks for breakin this down. I find it is definitely tricky getting the hang of it. :D
@LiangHuBBB
@LiangHuBBB 6 лет назад
Im not a fan of RE but this vid was rly well explained
@ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle
@ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle 6 лет назад
Good video! Subscribed for both your knowledge and your intelligence. I've tried asking some people how this system works and all i got back was "ITS JUST AN RNG LUCK BASED FEATURE IT RUINED THE GAME." without any help or explanation what so ever.
@Wyndtail
@Wyndtail 6 лет назад
You forgot to mention that parrying hits with the initial part of the reversal edge grants you a bit of meter. Or a heck of a lot if you parry a multi-hit attack.
@hermitthefox925
@hermitthefox925 6 лет назад
Hey Roofle. Love your content and as always great video. I would like to point out that you can also guard impact out of reversal edge tho....
@friendofphi
@friendofphi 6 лет назад
Man I watched the whole video just to see GI option impressions.
@josepartida1711
@josepartida1711 6 лет назад
I hate RE, to me it ruins the flow of the match. But I have to learn it so that’s that. I understand it a bit more now. Thanks rooflemonger!
@gabbonoo
@gabbonoo 6 лет назад
just consider it a double parry. it's much more fun (dodges mostly) than the parry wars of the old games
@jaredbartlett9650
@jaredbartlett9650 6 лет назад
What’s the best time to input buttons during a reversal edge? Sometimes my character doesn’t do what I input
@poego6045
@poego6045 6 лет назад
When I lose matches to that shit it frustrates me beyond belief, especially when I KNOW my choice would have beat them out
@RokuX51
@RokuX51 6 лет назад
I don't have the game yet but can't you just mash? That's what it looks like he was doing in this video.
@Marco.91
@Marco.91 5 лет назад
Just mash
@DemonKnight94
@DemonKnight94 6 лет назад
So against Astaroth you typically want to do K or Block.
@anyany2021
@anyany2021 6 лет назад
Or sidestep
@YoTerrako
@YoTerrako Год назад
Wow this is a very different style than ur newer videos
@Somanybeats
@Somanybeats 6 лет назад
Thanks Roof
@davidsalinas701
@davidsalinas701 6 лет назад
Awesome video. Thanks a lot!
@Gmit666
@Gmit666 6 лет назад
Thank you SO much!!
@sonof7yoshis
@sonof7yoshis 6 лет назад
I needed this thank you
@clockworkserpent
@clockworkserpent 6 лет назад
Astaroth knows parkour
@Bangcat
@Bangcat 6 лет назад
Super Man characters now have a fly away button. But it's in their enemy's arsenal when fighting an axe man.
@joshbowdish9851
@joshbowdish9851 6 лет назад
God bless you for this
@rapidkid11
@rapidkid11 6 лет назад
thanks 4 the vid! really helpful :)
@rpgtimefire
@rpgtimefire 6 лет назад
My exp is that it's not that hard to avoid. I think its just that it's such a new mechanic and that the visual que for it gets lost in all the flashy moves.
@archangelbeats8663
@archangelbeats8663 5 лет назад
good tutorial thanks!!
@dolliemoggie
@dolliemoggie 5 лет назад
thank you very much, been playing for a while but still quite clueless most of the time. sigh, when are the game developers include such indepth instruction with the games again like the good old days. are we supposed to be born with such insight? lol
@badsketch9264
@badsketch9264 6 лет назад
yes!!!! let's learn
@lelandvaughan4429
@lelandvaughan4429 6 лет назад
Can we get a video of the best moves or one of the best moves each character has for reversal edge?
@misfiteando
@misfiteando 6 лет назад
Good boi telling us how to fight against his main
@dolliemoggie
@dolliemoggie 5 лет назад
just one thought: if you assign your own control buttons, eg. on a PS4 controller, default A (horrizontal) is square, B (verticle) is triangle, K is circle and G is cross, but if you set them differently, such as A on triangle, B on corss, so on so forth, when RE is triggered, and you hit A , does the character perform a default A or your personalised A? And does the game acknowledge your input as A or B? just curious.
@afriking256
@afriking256 6 лет назад
I took the biggest gasp of my life when I saw Asstaroth full screen chuck Rapheal of the stage. That's fucked lol
@darthhiro7425
@darthhiro7425 6 лет назад
This is more than Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock
@ninetails2052
@ninetails2052 6 лет назад
This game is so good. Haven’t found my main yet, but I am enjoying every character so far... Do you use stick for this game? I thought I heard buttons mashing in the last vid
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
I personally use stick yeah. This video I switched to controller so there would be less clacking of the stick :-0
@gpac200
@gpac200 6 лет назад
Jeeeezus that Astaroth ring out wtf !!! I personally love this mechanic. I actually end many rounds online by smacking the opponent on the head with it when they're on their last life. Since Im a Kilik main, do you know what HIS best advantage is in reversal edge? Which attack should i be trying to nail more than the others?
@torvamessorem6686
@torvamessorem6686 6 лет назад
I need a tutorial for endgame LoS level 70 Astral Fissures. Azwel was a joke compared to those.
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
i havent each touched single player yet :-0
@virgilthemob1242
@virgilthemob1242 6 лет назад
I'm glad somebody took the time to make an in depth guide about this mechanic. I honestly despise it from the bottom of my heart. It's tailored for noobs who can't get out of pressure and would rather play a guessing game than a footsie game. Which is honestly stupid considering this is supposed to be a footsie-based fighter where smartly maneuvering around the opponent using the 8-way run used to be the core element of the gameplay. I'm honestly confused why they decided to put this stupid shit in. It really discourages any seasoned players from jumping into this one.
@bjprema8574
@bjprema8574 6 лет назад
had a few matches where i kept getting wrecked from someone spamming it and I had no idea how to beat it
@azuredream9032
@azuredream9032 6 лет назад
RE mechanic is fun, and even useful for getting out of tight situations, but not when its spammed. Its way to convenient of a mechanic to abuse to make a comeback..even tho that's one of the main reasons it was added. But i still hate seeing ppl constantly use it as their crutch to win. I also hate how CE freezes time and allows u to get an ez massive damaging move in. But i do love CE itself, just not the time freeze it causes, but i suppose namnco did that to make them easier to connect.
@Silvest3r
@Silvest3r 5 лет назад
Can you learn to read foes attack in RE, i mean that I would like to react with right attack to win.
@Sp00kyFox
@Sp00kyFox 6 лет назад
I guess guard impact is not a possible option for reversal edge? there was a table floating around before release which listed guard impact as one of the possible options. according to this it should beat all 3 attacks but loses to side step, crouch and guard. fandom.wikia.com/articles/soulcalibur-vi-reversal-edge
@davidstubbs2361
@davidstubbs2361 6 лет назад
Im not a fan of it but Astaroths B might be good for fighting npcs
@terryterry4934
@terryterry4934 6 лет назад
Already came up vs someone cheesing reversal edge as Astaroth for ring outs
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
You literally can't cheese it, its his B button. Its never not known what that option is. If you hit a button that loses to B on round 2 you are basically saying "I am ok with instantly dying"
@upchuckles243
@upchuckles243 6 лет назад
I've already come up with an Astaroth that mind-gamed me and just did A every time until the ONE TIME I didn't K.
@sKeJe87
@sKeJe87 6 лет назад
Hello, nice vids. Im a beginner and i think than my real problem with sc6 its know when make a hit after guard, so many times your opponent overwhelms you with many attacks and combos and i dont know so many times how to escape, im playing kilik and if i do a quick attack to counter a hit queue ,opponent even counters it. Whats ur advice?
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Well one of the big ones, if you blocked an attack with blue lightning, for the most part it is always going to be their turn still, even though you blocked. For the most part after any given attack/string, it will be your turn. But keep in mind if you go with big slow attacks, you will still lose to fast attacks from the enemy even though it is your "turn".
@AzurePerpure
@AzurePerpure 6 лет назад
Any chance we could get a video on Maxi's Seven Stars Severance? I haven't seen any good videos on it.
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Character specific stuff in time! I am learning a lot of everyone and unlike some youtubers(god seemingly everyone but me) I didn't get no early access or anything so I gotta land with my feet running on day 1 just like everyone else here. Gotta learn before I can teach :-0
@AzurePerpure
@AzurePerpure 6 лет назад
rooflemonger Fair enough. Thanks for the reply, man. Looking forward to it. Great videos so far by the way. Best I've seen by far.
@poego6045
@poego6045 6 лет назад
I think his seven star severance is all about actually recognizing what stances hes switching between and timing your button press when he hits the stance you want.
@poego6045
@poego6045 6 лет назад
Learning maxi is easier when you make your own reference chart that places moves into categories where "these moves will put you in this stance, etc..." since you can take it a stance at a time rather than learning his main attacks bit not knowing why what's coming out is whats coming out
@poego6045
@poego6045 6 лет назад
Does anyone know if you have to time the button press for your choice? Cuz sometimes I feel like it doesn't register my move, but I'm unsure if that's cuz I'm mashing a button and it misses the timing. Or can you hold a button to make it work?
@Jovian999
@Jovian999 6 лет назад
My problem with reversal edge is that it's too good as an offensive move. It deals a lot of damage just for initiating, and is harder to escape than any normal attack. It's too beneficial to not mix frequently into play, which slows the game down. Once you're in the mechanics are pretty cool, but I think it needs a nerf. Less or no initial damage, and perhaps some gauge consumption, would make it more palatable.
@ShaneC87
@ShaneC87 6 лет назад
Is there a list of every character unique quirks for Reversal Edge?
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Its in your characters moveset info! Although some stuff like the astaroth break attack you just gotta see for yourself I guess.
@louisjedahs
@louisjedahs 6 лет назад
you can guard impact during reverse edge too right? that was not discussed?
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
People say you can, I can in no way shape or form recreate it. I have never seen it done. Its not mentioned anywhere in the tutorial text about the move. Until shown otherwise gonna have to file it under old wives tales.
@somethingsomething9006
@somethingsomething9006 6 лет назад
It has happened to me when friend and I dueled for a while, only once though, and we couldn't figure out how to recreate it.
@Xengard
@Xengard 6 лет назад
Nice video, but... you mentioned that Nightmare has a one hit ko??? Tell me more :O
@afriking256
@afriking256 6 лет назад
Xengard He said Astaroth.
@Xengard
@Xengard 6 лет назад
oh shit, im deaf. thanks, i was pretty hyped about it lol :^P
@Wizard_Lizard_
@Wizard_Lizard_ 6 лет назад
If RE's were once per round I'd find them to be far more entertaining as a spectator.
@CaptainFalcon07
@CaptainFalcon07 6 лет назад
Holy shit astaroth
@zoggere4226
@zoggere4226 6 лет назад
Its prounounced de-vice-ive
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
maybe for commoners and those of low education
@Dopamine9481
@Dopamine9481 6 лет назад
I’m really trying to learn ivy she’s such a complex character. Would you do a tutorial on her?
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Ivy and Astaroth are the 2 characters I know best right now so they will probably be the first up on deck for character specific stuff.
@saadalsabah4012
@saadalsabah4012 6 лет назад
Could you do an asteroth tutorial next?
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Ivy and Astaroth are the 2 characters I know best right now so they will probably be the first up on deck for character specific stuff.
@totalishnc
@totalishnc 6 лет назад
can you do a guide on how to deal with Zasalamel's who spam Reversal edge for meter to spam more specials? ive lost to it twice and his RE in so hard to sidestep and block :/
@CaliburDS
@CaliburDS 6 лет назад
Use break attacks!
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Its only hard to sidestep cause you are not used to it! Trust me cause I had the same problem in the beta. Once you get out of that "deer in headlights" phase it gets more manageable.
@totalishnc
@totalishnc 6 лет назад
thats good to know. Any tips on how to deal with his special itself? the fact that it's also a GI is frustrating as hell
@unsolol
@unsolol 6 лет назад
i still feel like i know nothing about the game xd
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
We will learn in time friend! That is part of the journey.
@somethingsomething9006
@somethingsomething9006 6 лет назад
I..._really_ dislike this mechanic. I don't agree with the design philosophy, I don't like rock paper scissors guessing games in a freakin' fighting game where, ideally, skill is the ONLY factor. Yes, it's very easy to counter people who spam it, but it's just bothersome to see when it lands since I no longer can use skill to counter it.
@sygyzy0933
@sygyzy0933 6 лет назад
I like the reversal edge system alot but astaroths b is ridiculous. That's really unfair
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
How is it unfair? Its not a mystery what button it is. If you got killed by it, you chose to pick an option that loses to B. There is nothing random about it.
@sygyzy0933
@sygyzy0933 6 лет назад
@@rooflemonger I mean it's unfair in the sense that if you forget or he initiates the re and he wins then there goes that match. It kinda sucks that no matter what point the match was in that if you get hit with that. It's pretty much always a ring out
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
It literally can only happen, if you choose to let it happen though. You can make multiple choices that just say "nope, you can't do that" and there is literally nothing he can do to stop you.
@sygyzy0933
@sygyzy0933 6 лет назад
@@rooflemonger also not exactly, since the system is guess based if you both guess the same twice, the second time astaroth is gonna win if he initiated and then you get rung out
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
No, literally exactly. He can only ring you out on round 2, if he initiated, with his B. You have to choose to hit a button to loses to B to get instant rung out. Its your choice to lose in this way by hitting a button that won't automatically prevent it.
@tyuup12
@tyuup12 6 лет назад
I swear every character in the game is op. You cant nerf anyone because they all have a way to shit on you EVERY SINGLE ONE.
@rari2xx
@rari2xx 6 лет назад
In short, a bootleg sparking blast without health recovery
@afriking256
@afriking256 6 лет назад
Denarie Rawlins Not even close. They're nowhere near related. Idk how you even thought to compare the two.
@buddasteedy3937
@buddasteedy3937 6 лет назад
Learn how to say divisive and i'll take back my dislike, I swear.
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 6 лет назад
Well I am sorry you actually don't know how to pronounce it properly. You can keep that dislike and I will pray for your lack of education learning the commoners way of saying it.
@MrBlackboy21ful
@MrBlackboy21ful 6 лет назад
That's actually pretty funny.
@HexStickman
@HexStickman 6 лет назад
Really not a fan of this mechanic. Could change once I actually understand it; sort of doubting it however. I think that these and supers really just take too long and I find myself getting annoyed each time I'm forced to look at the animations.
@codytyler9078
@codytyler9078 5 лет назад
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@Hiiiiiiiiiiy
@Hiiiiiiiiiiy 5 лет назад
Reversal edge is cheesy. Foh. I see it coming and I side step the shit out of it... wanna be cheesy like that and I’ll grab you every time. Then T-Bag you.
@SetzarothTV
@SetzarothTV 5 лет назад
This mechanic is shit. Fighting games should never have forced guessing minigames
@Snow_is_Phertil
@Snow_is_Phertil 6 лет назад
They added a luck factor but made it easy to avoid as long as you can avoid it it’s a good mechanic but as soon as someone finds a tech setup for reversal edges it’ll become broken for this simple fact of if you force someone into a mind game mechanic then it’s not promoting skill just luck in my opinion. No difference from a 50/50 or and other mixup situation in other games but the way you get this mixup is forced 50/50 usually have future ways to make it a 30/30/30 via a patch, lab work, or character specifics but this mechanic will always keep it the way it is. Nun wrong with some luck it makes for good hype as a spectator and casually played but when you in grand finals on your last round and they somehow get the reversal edge well the mind games get to the point of luck. Some people don’t like it cause it’s like spend 1000 thousands of hours to make it to this point all just so the game can tell me to leave it to harada’s hand. sorry for the long comment just thought I’d share my thoughts Azwell lol.
@SkepticGamer
@SkepticGamer 6 лет назад
I despise luck in my videogames and if I see a hint of it, I'll call that shit out.
@somethingsomething9006
@somethingsomething9006 6 лет назад
Thank you. I also really dislike this mechanic from a design point of view. They put it in so new players can stand a chance against good players...and I'm sorry, but the new player really doesn't deserve a luck based rock paper scisors mechanic, no one does. The only thing that should determine the victory is how good the player is, not through guessing games. New/bad players deserve to lose against good players, not be given free shit
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