LEVELS (Basic Version) 

@hoe_math Your "scribbles" are perfect. You should make a poster of the "level-up" sheet. I would buy it immediately!

Love the graphics. Handwriting also very interesting, almost like a font of regular guy script. Maybe you know them already but in manufacturing we use the 5 Why's to get at root cause. It's a lot like you description of thinking things through at the end of the video. I don't think that people 10,000 years ago were less intelligent than people today. I hope that you were using tribes/Romans/Medieval describing the lower levels as analogy only; Aristotle et al.

I think this explaisn why i cant be in the moment as often as others + why my brain overheats more often than it should. Thank you for the visual break down.

I'm almost 30. I've been at a new job for about a month now. Yesterday, for casual Friday, I wore a normal tshirt. My boss called me over and politely talked to me, saying I need to wear collared shirts. Keep the casual professional. He was very nice about it. And I felt anxiety for 30 mins because I had done something wrong. I grew up with unforgiving parents and deal with this kind of stuff internally, but I'm getting better at it recently. Anyways. I wanted to just go home and change so I didn't feel bad anymore. I thought about how my boss might have been stressed because maybe HIS boss mentioned it to me and he felt like HE did something wrong. And I caused all of that stress. I didn't like that. But. I realized I was being ridiculous. I told myself it's just a shirt and I'll fix it next time. And I was able to do that because I have become able to see how I emotionally respond to things and why I respond that way. I've been changing a lot of things recently since moving past some unhealthy attachments and I've been able to do so because I can see how and why I react the way I do. I think about why I do it and if what I'm so worried about is actually something to worry about. Most of the time it isn't. I feel like this self awareness puts me most of the time at a 8.

Grats on getting the sponsorship!

Real

You need to unthink yourself lol

trying so hard to correct this same issue in myself lol i'm just thinking about everything and myself doesnt exist

Try meditation.

I love you

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I promise you that THIS is the highest level of thinking. Joking in such a way when most would look at this all serious 😉

Or toss her a bag of mushrooms and ask how her trip was 😂

I met a lady at a motel but instead of a box of crayons or a little meth, she wanted kfc. Didn't give me a speech though, her mouth was full. But I'm sure she enjoyed the kfc once i left.

Mama Murphy? ;-)

Good for you. I still struggle to understand others. But nothing enough practice can't fix

Reading this just made me happy for you, wow :)

I understand how you feel, as time has progressed and we become more self aware we realize the way we think, and notice our separation from others. I don't like proclaiming intelligence on any level but I know that as we increase the depth of the thought we can generate and understand, we tend to solve, live, think, feel and separate from others. This is isolating as the fact we can be viewed by other humans for having a different thought be seen as immoral and labeled as a bad person, very isolating. But it takes time to realize that sometimes the best thing to do is to fit in. Which is probably why higher levels are not intrinsically better. I found that the best way to cultivate this idea and expand volume of consciousness is to connect with other people of similar depth. Just always keep in mind, we aren't better that anyone else, and no one holds superiority, as to err is to be human. so always keep an open mind. Good luck on your journey, friend.

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for me trusting the universe and that everything will be okay is the only thing that keeps me going atp. the one thing i know is that its my friend so ill just accept what its doing for me 🤷‍♂

@@aura.expanse hey dude you should give "the alchemist" a read, I think you'd really enjoy it. Given your interest

I have discovered that the key is learning to "tune in" to the different consciousness levels being expressed or utilized by the individual or group, as well as being consciously aware enough about the advantages(or lack thereof) of discerning whether it is an optimal action for you(myself) to interact with them or not. To practice, you have to engage with almost all the variations of consciousness levels expressed by different beings at their own levels, however once you get the hang of it(or at least when it seems obvious for you to) you choose to associate with those that will optimize your life as well as the lives you too can optimize as well(some are more receptive than others to "change" lol). Like a string(or in groups, strings) on a guitar, you must learn to understand and be able to recognize the tension(or lack thereof) of each consciousness level, learn to adjust your own to each variation for maximum harmony, and generate the unique symphony of experience we all love called Human Being, filled with both Joy and Suffering, and so much more. Eventually, you will be so adept at it and the community at large will be so attuned to it that you yourself can be one of the main "Strings" that help to tune all the other strings in order to optimize the world and the future of humanity. At least, that's my theory or wish. Regardless, good luck to all who read this, and may God bless you and your loved ones.

Level 10 thinking.

level 11, why bother thinking when there are ☝ smart people ☝ to figure it all out

level oo, its all a cycle, you'll be here again drawing these and there's nothing you can do, even if you're the best or you did as much as you could.

The completed final level looks like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xyYhZTy_Abo.html And the way there, explained in the same yet slightly different way ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6i8bnb4dvvg.html

lvl 12, understanding nothing matters and just being selfish

He 10xd his following in a month already lmao it’s happening in real time.

Incredible to see.

That's a 9.

He has a tikto

Seriously, this is going to do even better than his TikTok.

I find many of us don't only stay at 1 level, sometimes when we need to get things done, to deal with different levels of people we go to the level that they are familiar with. At work at home at parties with different sets of people and audiences, but it's important that when it comes to issues and how we think about those issues, a larger perspective will definitely help

Yea like I know my closest looks like trash but I know where everything is trust me.

Or we don't care enough to organise.

i find that a large portion of people, level 7 to 8 (as far as i can tell) are introverted, partly since people at this level are busy with their thoughts and silent observations, rather than socializing.

Another one here!

Yes!!! I have to force myself to engage in reality. I am constantly working on grounding. Especially since my family relationships aren’t great (mom is a narcissist) not having relationships to ground you can be dangerous. That’s why I stress duality, not oneness. Oneness is a reality in other realms, but ego and separation are a reality in this realm. You have to remember both truths.

Hmm I did go through that but I got past that ultimately, but that is a wierd feeling for sure

Trust me this information is presented to you for the entirety of your life you just choose to ignore it. Lets not act like we wake up and spend 8 hours a day working on our consciousness and awareness. We all work for uncle sam. What do you think is gonna happen if more people see this video? People see college and dont go dude... The knowledge been there, but ignorance is more fun

My doodles suck... MS whiteboard and smart friends to the rescue!

​@@PerryCaliTrue words. I learned this kind of stuff just reading fiction as a kid.

@@PerryCali I feel like theres a difference between knowing and understanding. I knew about this for a long time but didn't "understand" and actually resonate with it until recently, as I can tell that my entire perspective and attitude has changed.

​@PerryCali that's true. But it's not the only issue. Some people don't even know this kind of information even exists... not cauz of ignorance but accessibility, for others its just incocievable because they have lived a certain way too long. Making these things mandatory human knowledge in the education system is a good start for global inlightenment and betterment.

I like the cartoons, but the camera work and focusing around the cartoons could be better.

@@diazigy I like it the way it it, but yeah, he still has room for improvement. Anyways, those kind of details are more about personal preferences so

Totally agree with him, the content is way deeper to focus on the graphics, since they only visually support you explaining. Totally loved your personality. Subscribed!

As he says it's just development

Nah it's perfect. Feels comedic and down to earth, there's a charm to the child like aesthetic. Almost like "Casually Explained"

Who da fuck ARE you? My god how is this level of wisdom possible and what philisophies did you study?

I don't usually respond to comments but I found this interesting. I would agree with your 'level 10' sort of idea, not as a state of consciousness but a rule of life. But i wouldn't agree with your level 9 in the context of the video. The first reason being, as you said all information is finite which means therefore it can be lost or withheld by individuals. Which would mean for the reality of your level 9 to exist ("but someone else’s and truly experiencing what they have gone through") be impossible. This would kind of have to make me delve into 2 sub reasons as to why but i think this stems from misinterpretation of the video. I don't think hoe math's level 9 was to experience and understand the culmination of *someone else's* experience and existence but instead was the ability to like he said, "knowing where to watch those things"- in context to level 8. Level 8 being the ability to understand the culmination of YOUR experience in real time, to understand the understanding and observe the observing of the culmination. What I drew from the video, the idea of level 9 is the level of thought required to understand which area's to focus on, once again "the *responsibility* for *knowing*-( which in context is the parent to level 8 as a value), *where*-(in reference to being able to understand a higher level of where observing observation is required and necessary, and to understand its role and value in your own observation) to watch those things" that was my interpretation, I look forward to a response. Do correct any of my mistakes from your argument.

Yeah, I agree that to do actual stuff in the real world anything above 4 starts to be an obstacle to life

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​@@2terra259 after reading this over i think u may beright, it is more of "self awareness" that hoe math's level 9 is pointing out. But to be fair, @user-lu7rc5br5e said that they think lvl 9 is unfinished - basically it is missing empathy ("but someone else’s and truly experiencing what they have gone through").

Like children he teaching is, hhmm. 👽

Sam O’nella academy might be something you really enjoy. He also does silly doodles while he teaches

​@@jasonwilliams9803I do think Sam O'Nella tends to be a little too fast

Yes keep the doodles if you can

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decision paralysis =/= higher levels. same for overthinking. you can overthink from the same single perspective, and have decision paralysis from one frame of view, while neglecting other frames of view. you can also 'chill' at higher levels, especially if it's bringing you answers to questions that could not be answered at lower levels, and allowing you to be more productive than you would have been otherwise, and therefore content with your improvement. there are many examples of this. I think anxiety is more of a nervous system problem and can happen at any level, low or high.

Wouldn’t Greek philosophers be on some of the higher levels though

lvl 1: > i want donut lvl 2: > me and other want donut lvl 3: > me and others want donut lvl 4: > me and others want donut but rules first lvl 5: > me and others want donut but rules second science first lvl 6: > me and others want donut but rules AND science AND religion AND tribe AND etc all together lvl 7: > me and others want donut but rules doesn't want donut. Remove rules lvl 8: > me and others want donut but rules OR science OR religion OR tribe OR etc lvl 9: > i dont know if I want the donut

Right and best is situational… that’s what you realize at second tier…and as you climb higher you still retain access to the lower levels. In fact not having them as a solid foundation can make you dysfunctional even when you are at higher levels of awareness. Which is why it is important to understand the impact of trauma in undermine that foundation. The climb is important because you become more versatile and less reactive to other people. You see people less in terms of good and bad and more in terms of different degrees of being awake. The less awake they are the more people and things they bump into.

​​​​@@KennethTopeThis is important, this is where you SELF diagnosis issues, to further research, to than bring to doctors a host of symptoms, to find a treatment plan, not for labels or money, or even health, but for every reason imaginable, positive and practical, again Occam's razor is super important here, especially when debating what's best to even tackle. But stagnation is intolerable at a higher level... And realizing you have severe issues, can be quite crippling. Because you realize the dissociative mindfuck you are as a human being... ADHD meds, figuring that out about myself, gave me everything you described... until, I split on a woman again in my life. Horrific experience for everyone involved, after YEARS. Getting BPD/DBT treatment soon... wish everyone was this morally responsible or tries to be 😂😂

It's not really a new theory from hoe_math. It's based on the work of Clare Graves (Spiral Dynamics) and Ken Wilber (Integral Theory). He's just explaining that with his excellent skills

and doodles@@SensemakingMartin

I think we reveal a little of what goes on inside with our interaction with each other. How much depends on how vulnerable you're able to be around that person. It's like the difference when people know you but they don't know you like a loving parent might because they've had more exposure to that authentic self.

Becoming sentient is crazy. I remember the first time it occurred to me in like jk that other people had thoughts and experiences like my own and they should be considered real and respected. It hit me like a train. My whole behavior pattern changed forever.

They only see the outside and the strawman they conceive. However, you make them aware that you are a living soul by speaking from your heart consistently and living out your God given purpose.

And now your eyebrows, eyelashes, lips, skin tone and hair color are fake to try to appear better to others than you really are. Still some climbing to do.

The next level is realizing that those other people don't exist at all. This is comforting until you make the logical leap that you don't exist either. That is the final level, since then you realize there are no levels. Just a cloud of hydrogen that was left alone for way too long.

I assume intelligent people would do anything to stay on the lower levels. Higher levels describe and lead to madness more than intelligence in my opinion.

Yes, it does. Everybody who is ranking themselves is at most and most often at 5. Higher levels would not.

Dunning Kruger effect?

I’m sure that’s just a general rule of ideology. There’s always someone ruining things. This is a just a hyper aware categorization of cognition beyond the self. If someone’s gonna turn that into bullying, that was always their plan lol

@@Starkogi someone has watched the "and then I had a thot" video

Yes. As a practitioner that gets triggered explaining stuff to “students” I appreciate this very much.

I love mindfulness. We practice it every night in my dorm

Your dead on the money, meditation is definitely key. Meditation helps your mind expand but not just meditation alone, your mind has to be willing to expand and you cannot expand if you do not make room for more ideas to enter your mind unbound by biases. The more you can open your mind and be less judgmental the more room for expansion. Nuance is key for true growth, when you press in to learn more and understand more both light, dark and everything in between the universe unfolds everything in front of you. It's like staring into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you. Likewise the universe, don't stop, keep pushing. Leave not one stone left overturned and life as you know it will look like a matrix. More layers will peel back and just observe, lvl 9 is where it's at but only if you can handle it. You have to open your own mind to expand that far, it's a matter of one's own will to make a way. Will you tell yourself you know enough or will you open up to be once more surprised that this universe is in communion with you.

A lot of "esoteric" or "occult" stuff from early ages are legitimate things. A lot of Eastern practices like meditation have actual positive brain effects, and magick in Europe prior to Christianity, half of it was just proto-psychology rituals for self-development and discipline.

Meditation and mindfulness is definitely a level 6 practice, 100%. Level 7/8 is observing the results of, and influencing the direction of that mindfulnes, as well as accepting multiple lifestyles and cultures while also believing they exist better separate than they do together. Level 6 would put everyone together. Yuri Bezmenov detailed how meditation/mindfulness was specifically capitalized on by the KGB as a cultural weapon against Americans in order to specifically create the problematic cultures that were directly brought up by hoe_math as a result of 6 thinking. Level 7 thinking is the worldview supported by modern Russia now instead.

Sounds like what people talk about when they're describing "christ consciousness"

I’m autistic with ADHD and I’m usuallly on a level 8, if not, level 7. when I get high however, I get wired into level 9 and gradually to go back to level 7-8 once sober. At times level 9 thinking can last for days. Honestly I believe that this is the cause of hyper awareness of masking, sensory processing, and emotional intelligence. As hoe math said, sometimes higher isn’t better, with all that self awareness comes daunting self responsibility and forced self reflection

@@Signiaa_Same I don’t like 8 very well. I found it ironic that level 1 had autism as the pathology but (I high dislike this term) most “HF ASD” people understand up to 7 from an early age and can (doesn’t mean they do) process on 8 a lot due to the constant analysis on their social interactions because we have to do those manually; however, ONLY if they are aware they are autistic. Elsewise you get stuck in the lower levels (under 5). Edit: I agree completely on the sobriety aspect. Unless I’m medicated this does not work.

@@Signiaa_ yeah maybe u should rewatch the vid a few times, don't think u really get it

level 9 is quite literally just monist thinking which has been around for centuries, there are 1 billion teachers for self realization and the process for it, this video just describes A CONSTRUCTED levelling process that isn't correlated with reality in any sense and is entirely based on his experience

i spend most of my time between level 8 and 9 and i have to say it is incredibly exhausting. Every 6 months or so i get a completely different results on my personality tests and it feels like i'm a completely different person and cant recognize myself, sometimes i read text from only 2 years ago and im completely baffled with what i wrote and come to the realization that it literally was a different person as i have change over time due to my subjective experiences and im observing the fact that i observed that. And it makes me realize that i truly have that unlimited possibilities on who i could become and who i am. Its like so to me everything is completely subjective including my own mind and the way i observe my mind is also subjective. "I think therefore i am" feels like it doesnt apply me. Because how can i be sure that that is the case, what about the me that thought 2 years ago, that me was a completely different me, its not the me as i know me today and its definitely not the me that i will be in the future, is the me of today even the me of the future, am I truly even me or even real? What even am I?

Personal examples with a walkthrough of the line of thinking helped a ton too

A lot of people (like myself) are visual learners. You could've given me a book or an audio-only version and I would've switched off after 30 seconds.

@@gooble69 exactly, if I can see it, I can figure it out on my own more or less. Just hearing it is like listening to someone give directions. Instantly forgotten once the trip starts

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merry christmas to you too

this gives me hope that one day, i can have a relationship with my father like that

Come back in five years and let us know how much useful info you actually learned in school. Everything a psych degree teaches about Piaget, Maslow, Freud, Erikson, etc. is nearly basic human associate’s degree knowledge at this point.

Yep, as someone who studies psychotherapy I can tell it shows really good how does psychotherapist think during terapeutic sessions. Wish you luck with your studies :)

Lol

Same here, literally graduated a week ago, just that my degree was in economics. Surprisingly when you dig deeper the core ideas of economics are actually based in philosophy and psychology instead of mathematics.

@@americandissident9062 Its only natural for a psych degree to cover basic knowledge about Erikson or Freud. They are not even psychologists!

I love it

Well a lot of that is a purchased promotional package. It comes with fake subs, likes, and comments. I'm not saying that someone should never do this, I'm just saying that's probably what went on.

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Wait sorry, what result exactly? I don't see how fake subs lead to a video doing well (if that's what you mean). Please enlighten me.

I would really think it would be great, but it would probably suck if he tried to force it, talking about things he doesn't like or care about. I mean, let's just hope this dude have interests beyond dating. This video suggests it does. I hope he doesn't fall for that trap of betting always on the money making machine thing (which is easy even for smart people because, you know, involves money), making videos that please the algorithm and not himself. PS: I just got here on the channel, I wasn't even aware of the dating advice theme, but I loved it.

it was dating advice huhhh

this is trash

​@@21morphathis is the first video I've ever seen from this channel. I like it, but yeah I hope the rest isn't the typical alpha/sigma male bullshite or I'll be gone.

​@@wg8561its not. I've seen his tiktoks he bashes both sides

Yes!! It’s funny because people at a lower level will say “all these books and videos all say the same thing but in different packaging, they all just copy each other” but it’s no, they all say the same thing because the truth is the truth and everyone’s coming at it from different angles. It all connects beautifully.

Bruh plz tell me your not over 15 years old

No Time Army for you then. Good riddance.@@anim8dideas849

@@anim8dideas849 Lmao!

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All the red pill content I've seen focuses on "how to defend your interests as a man." I dislike the partiality of that, and I want to make people into overflowing fountains of giving who make shrewd choices about who to give to, rather than fearing who not to give to. It's an all-around better orientation.

@@hoe_math that’s fair the content has greatly went downhill. This is reminiscent to the 2015-2018 glory days.

really don't understand the appeal of red pilled content, it implies there is a good way to do things and most of the time content itself is rather toxic...

@@_vapor I agree. See it started with literally just taking the pill that women weren’t these angelic creatures that you get by being nice, sweet, and showering them with love. Due to all romance movies having the nerd get the girl at the end etc. redpill taught that it’s the masculine attractive men who got the girl, that being rich is a priority as well and that women are capable of extremely bad behavior as well……I remember content before that and for my age group it was terrible. Created a bunch of “betas” “simps” “nice guys” etc that became Incels later on. So red pill isn’t needed now but in the past it definitely was

​ @hoe_math Hey man, I love your content! Why are you doing it? (I would love to see a video about it) I wanted to make a long comment here, about how I think you are not aware of how your videos could be interpreted.. especially in a short form it might have a different meaning that you would like to convey, however, I only have an assumption what you want with these videos! Also, who the fuck I am to talk.. just felt like I would like a comment like this if I were you.. :$ (English is not my first language, I hope grammatically I am saying what I mean :D )

this is a fresh comment i hope to one day notice things to your degree

you did not retain the knowledge of psychology as it was taught by female lecturers or in their syntax. Check "Sex and Culture" by Unwin + Brave New World by Huxley and you will have wider view on psychology

If you forget easily exercise your mind by jornaling In schools in my cointry they used chalk boaurds for every student and they woulld wipe the chalk away right after they finished the stupidity of it is obvious in retrospective but we do that with good thoughts we dont write down

Your education doesn't stop outside of your schooling there's a enormity of wealth of information online if you can locate and secure reliable trusted sources of information.

Bro is working his way out of level 3

He doesn't need to be rich.

I know right?? This dude's insane for coming up with this much stuff by himself

​@@name_adi I don't believe these are original thoughts. people have thought these things before him, and he has probably read up on those texts. there is a chance he has come up with the ideology independent of those texts which is commendable but unlikely imo

@@aryansharma9727 I think its just the fact that hes on youtube and graphically complied them in an easy format which is nice. Anybody that takes information and compiles it to make it easier for people to understand is smart

The subject matter isn't new, the capsule in which he explained it is incredibly well done and likely easier to digest for most though

CBT?

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​@@PseudoWoundsc*ck and ball torture?

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy @@PseudoWounds

too focused on outcomes. life isn't found found in an imagined future

I think each level creates new opportunities for anxiety to present itself. Hell even level 1 could be extremely anxiety inducing because the world is a strange confusing place you don't understand.

I agree. For me the assumption of knowing iz based on knowing SELF in which one can understand what others may be thinking in that moment. Now an important thing to remember is it works better when you know said otherz. ÷

Anxiety is mostly focused on level 1 diminishing in 2 and 3. With more perspectives the anxiety goes down. Holding on to your ego is level 1 anxiety.

I would say I legit reached level 8 in the last week after a profound realization, but I still struggle with anxiety. Like you said there are many reasons for anxiety. Learned response, external stimuli, too selfconscious. I also reflect personalities so if I am around someone super anxious it makes me anxious as well Too small of thinking

this is nonsense if you have read works by greek philosophers you would know this video is far from accurate

@@baldworkswhich works are you talking about? I have read some works on philosophy myself, and its my understanding that many of these philosophers would concede that their way of thinking might not be right or wrong, it just is the way it is, and the philosophy is often a tool for navigating this world and our own life

It's a whole vibe. It all works beautifully together, somehow.

@@baldworks I never said it didn’t make sense, the way he presents the video is a bit chaotic but in a good way I loved all of it! The way I framed it must’ve been misleading for you :)

@@danlightened I agree!

This is where I’m at (I had a privileged upbringing so it was possible for me to hit these levels earlier in life because I did not have to worry about the problems in 1-3). I’ve been trying to tell people this. The point of life is playing the game.

Ted Kazcynski wrote an entire book about why we should go back to the "throwing virgins into volcanoes" stage

This types of reflexion is actually level 6

This is just the dunning kruger effect

Thats level 7 actually, recognizing changing perspectives over time

It was the same with me. I think the journey to self-improvement requires you find higher and higher levels of understanding.

Hey there, I'd highly recommend checking out Buddhism (This isn't some "you need jesus" crap, Buddhism is a method of living in this life). The 4 noble truths are literally about that, accepting that suffering is, that you can find the root cause of it, that you can stop it and then a "path" towards living without. Ripping apart your consciousness is exactly that. Also, HealthyGamer GG channel is an excellent start.

@@FurlessApe22really interesting thanks for the insight

He says: "this isn't some you need Jesus crap" Then proceeds to offer a religion that you spend essentially forever trying to quit being reborn even though you have no soul or person. 🤦 All based on the teachings of a man who was just one of the many bodhisattva BUT *specifically* from the "Tuṣita" heaven, (buddhist cosmology is migrane inducing, cuz ya kno: "dukkha") who, depending on which opinion from which buddist "off-shoot"/sect (in other words no one knows, or EVER DID) decided to take the shape of a "white elephant to be reborn on Earth for the last time." 🤨 This white elephant, enlightened state buddha, from a specific heaven, for whatever reason, went into what I guess he chose to be his mother's womb (via her right side?) to be born, but was still a result of sex of his mom and dad(?). 🧐 All this to live a life in search of how to "detach" and "break the cycle" which he for some reason was the first one to "figure it out" giving us the "middle road" to achieve nirvana as a means to quit being born over and over again (be good or you might be born as a dung beetle) 😑 BUT.... No "Jesus crap" though... Obviously you can do whatever you want, you've been GIVEN the free will to do whatsoever you please. But don't try to reduce the real undeniable existence of Jesus Christ to "crap". Jesus Christ, who factually lived, that we have verifiable first hand witness accounts of, is backed by historical, archeological, and scientifical evidence...not to mention the literary miracle, the Bible, and it's never been exhausted details and explanations for human existence, creation, meaning, moral values, reason for suffering/evil, death, eternal life after... but yeah....Buddhism bro, no Jesus "crap", btw check out this dudes channel he's like super close to nirvana man." I say all that to say this: Believe it or not I got nothing but love for you and since I come from a Catholic upbringing which led me to hate church in the Bible only to eventually come to the realization that my preconceived notions and bias towards the Bible we're not fair and we're founded in my CONTINUED dislike (to say the least) of Roman Catholicism. once I put aside my preconceived motions biases opinions and simply just looked in to studying the historicity of the Bible alongside some personal spiritual self-reflection and prayer I came to what I believe to be the only logical conclusion and quite easy to come to with that, which is simply that the Bible is exactly what it claims to be. Jesus of Nazareth, Son of God (literally God in the flesh) came down here 2023 years ago (current year=how long since His bday, go backwards for anytime before [BC] lol, world changing event) to be murdered by His own creation, for you. God in the flesh, who made the entire universe, was sentenced to Capital punishment: death by Roman Crucifixion. Order was given by one "Pontius Pilot" who was the fifth governor of the Roman province of Judaea, serving under Emperor Tiberius. As a result, your Creator, suffered a horrific death, being tortured, spit on, mocked, beard ripped out, and the One who made the entire planet, hung bloody, entirely naked, disfigured, entrails showing; this He suffered while having the power to come down off the cross and wipe out all humanity at any point if He wanted to but no, instead we read in Luke 23:34 'Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do...' God in the flesh died for you. Because if you're honest with yourself you know that you are what the Bible would call a sinner. Because besides Jesus who lived a perfect sinless life (only way to be a perfect sacrifice on our behalf is to be perfect) so is EVERYONE ELSE who ever lived. And a perfect God cannot allow sin into a perfect place such as heaven because if He did, man would ruin all of outer space/heaven just like we are doing to Earth. And the judgement for sin, anything less than perfection, is death and eternity seperated from God in hell. But hell wasn't even made for you, Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire PREPARED for the DEVIL and his ANGELS." And He died for all of His creation because He loves us: ‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‭-‬17‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." So he took your place on the cross, died for your sins, took your sins down to hell when He went there for you and dropped them off, rose from the dead on the 3rd day according to the scriptures, and ascended back up to His rightful place in Heaven. All that just in the HOPES (because He isn't a slave owner He gave you free will) that you will accept His FREE GIFT (you don't earn it) so that you can be forgiven, clean by blood of the "Lamb". These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 1 John 5:13‭-‬14 KJV Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Romans 10: 9-10 ⁹ that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. ¹⁰ For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:13 ¹³For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Get saved brothers/sisters, God doesn't want you trying to worry about breaking The Reincarnation cycle trying to achieve Nirvana or get whatever prize whatever religion is offering you by your own works. No he wants you to know that you are going to heaven by simply trusting in Jesus Christ dying for your sins. He wants you to have peace, hope, purpose, meaning, a literal one on one personal relationship with you; and to spend eternity in Heaven with you there. We aren't guaranteed tomorrow, but we are guaranteed to die; don't put it off just simply trust Jesus Christ (cuz it's not crap, only reLIEgion is) and I hope to see yall topside after this short life on earth. Love. Life is Short Death is Sure Sin the Curse Christ the Cure

Wow, same to me, i am astounded on the fact other people come up with that and effectively implement it to solve those infinite issues

lol yeah is like you know you are going primal and suddenly decide to go up again. imo is good to be like that sometimes, if not, you won't be able to enjoy the small things. operating in high levels is draining, so those things are better applied when your activities involve other people and not only yourself.

There is always two angels of every count, what are you failing to see as well

You said something 8 there lol

Quite relatable in some ways

@@IDRC3000 I’ve found that whiskey helps with more comfortable operation at any level.

Hey brother, good to hear. Remember though thought isn’t consistent and it’s not you so do not attach yourself to it. No matter how high level it seems, observing is more important ❤ 💯

I love this, it’s so refreshing to hear more about this in others

@@UniversalMusicLtd584 Observing yes, the more watch myself, the more i critique the habits and behaviors i don’t think are beneficial to my long term goals. Reminds of a quote from some story. “They are learning how they learn”

This is the first time Ive seen a whole ass paragraph, like a almost essay like sentences or whatevs the word or sentence im trying to create. This is a bit new.

But did you realize that you were realizing that you were developing and altering habits through time. Did you watch yourself in your observation of observing. Why? Why did you do that? See the thing is there is a level ten. That everyone fears and avoids like the plague. The question is : why? Why do you do any of this? Why watch at all? And then it goes further. Why ask the question why?

Beautifully said. Thank you for taking the time to articulate something that I am sure so many other people struggle with and can relate to.

That's why the best self-help advice is to "just do it." If you experience a negative feeling, then DO something about it, and see if you feel better. That's it. I don't think I've ever benefitted from level 6 - level 7 consciousness. It's like trying to solve for 2 + 2 with a quantum computer. It just overcomplicates things and it becomes mental gymnastics so I can procrastinate taking action.

That was really a great read. You write well and entertainingly. That's pretty rare. It's nearly non-existent in the younger generations. I've been known to do a bit of navel-gazing, myself... But I do try to act on the things I learn from my excessive pondering of nonsense. (I find that writing things down when I think of something new helps make it useful.)

FIRE COMMENT!

Best comment I've read in a long long time. Once the thinking is done, the only solution is to move forward. Would be nice if there was a way to streamline the process and act faster, but maybe it comes with practice.

You are beautiful!

Thank you for the comment 😌

Thanks for sharing... I felt pretty much the same as you do.

The, "I have a sinking cruiser" send me rolling! Xd Whenever I go through my "introspective spirals" in I'm left with an alien feeling, like, if the world I'm living is so gray and artificial... I now believe that those spirals are what happen when I negatively go in that 6-7-8-9-8-9 loop... As you say, it's like having a cruiser... *BUT A SINKING ONE* LMAO XD I automatically reset my level to my good old 4 - 5 zone after some time. Only going higher when I need or want to. Higher levels consume too much power :v xd

I relate pretty heavily, I spent alot of time alone growing up and as a result was in my head alot and still am sometimes to a problem extent maybe. I really appreciate this video because it actually opened my eyes to some of the pitfalls in thinking that can make you spiral abit. Ive been trying to work on myself and improve like anyone and I think this video will help me maybe not stumble so much in the process.

And eventually when they got out of level 6, they often went back to level 3 or 4 jobwise ;)

This sounds so relatable. I didn’t grow up back then, believe it or not I’m actually a zoomer. I’ve always had my questions about my generation writing of morals they deemed to be outdated. As if they refuse to look at what these morals were put into place for to protect. I understand that times are changing, but I always felt like time is not the only thing in the equation and that human tendency/nature and it’s consequences also have to be taken into account.

@@uzi11111Don’t you understand why the theory failed in the 70s ? There is no level 7, it’s speculative. And somehow everyone in the comments conceives his present self at level 6. Don’t you see the problem ?

Anti-work culture like the hippies has obvious flaw that the lights will eventually shut off if everyone followed it. Then you can think they’ll be changing their minds real quick about it when life gets uncomfortable. So its definitely a dead end way of life. Its the same way with democrats run cities, their hippy thinking is slowly destroying the cities they run and life is getting hard.

Too much level 6 can be even more dangerous than too much level 4

Take it from the four-time dropout who isn’t doing research

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Archetypes stop working about level 4, they work only till certain level, above that you create your own type, without any ancient meanings and this is why psychology is innacurate and rather theoretical, non-masculine.

@@Volsenon-feminine too, it would make all this “life shit” more alienating and less human

@@Volse There's only so many stories you can tell. You're telling me you aren't a character in one?

@@JohnDoe-iu5xi I am character in one but I am living and not being lived by others anymore. It is complexed subject which was solved in ancient times but due to collapse of peace 4 times within last 2000 years we are forced again to rethink how to live. Pax Romana laster till Roman Empire collapse, insufficient silver in market and 4 generations of christianity killed the empire, made women a neck of men (head) and started a revoke of Goddess Kali religion among women. Pax Mongolica lasted long and prosperous, it was the safest time to live long and prevention was set by law - some of those laws are still in islamic countries but evolved or were forced with time to be "western" (example Libya). Pax Britannica brought end to official slavery and introduced new ways of efficient working in factories. Pax Americana did split world in two, pushed technology forward, peoples minds were forced to increase tacting above 50Hz - life started to "escape", became fast paced and unnatural for women. All of aspects from each peace lands today and meet together in society in form of red pill versus feminism. We are in 4th generation of rotting with money without value and Gen Z swiping tablets - next Pax will be the biggest and hopefully it will be more like Mongolica or Brittanica as personally I would like slow food, slow life, slow pace and experience it .

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Very insightful!!

i was thinking the same with dimensions too thats crazy

oh brother how in the hell do you relate the 10 levels to the 10 dimensions lol. Like tell me one distinc thing about the "curled up" dimensions 5-10 and how they relate to anyhting on this list. the only similaritty is that there are 10 of them. It would be pretty cool if there was some fundemental connection between the structure of our universe and the structure of our consiousness but comparing two (flawed) models and then assuming some fundemental connection is non-scientific. First we would need to determine that this is a proper model of concousness for attacking the question. Also, the 6 curled up spatial dimenssions in string theory have never been measured or observed and string theory is only one group of theories that attempts to explain quantum gravuty. There are many others that don't involve extra dimensions

I reckon this is described by the tarot card The Fool, which is numbered 0 because it's both at the top and the bottom of the archetypes

I was thinking the same! Went into the comments looking for this sentiment after he described stage 8. Truly fascinating how much of psychology Buddhism seems to have gotten right without modern means of study.

Buddism and Yoga have been offering people teachings about self-awareness, presence, and higher level thinking for thousands of years... while (in my view) traditional religion has given people external ritual induced presence experience without self-awareness, which is an easier road to being happier and more balanced (and usually but not always more kind).. Unfortunately, religion tends to also bring tribalism and balkanization and conflict, which is just about the opposite of Buddist ideals.

Thanks for sharing. At level 9, Buddha sowed a seed 2500 years ago, and in that time some fruits have been obtained. It's time for the western societies to take advantage of this knowing (not as a knowledge, but as an experience).

We experience a projected perception of the world, filtered by our expecatation, altered by our bias. What we talk about as "feelings" or "emotions" I believe to be entangled perception states we (individually) don't yet know how to untangle. I am sitting next to a friend in a movie theatre watching an action movie. A surprising exciting moment happens.. My friend feels excited. I feel the hairs on my arms stand up because I suddenly feel the colder 70 degree theatre air against my 98.6 degree skin. I feel this, because my perception system has been shown something it didn't predict (and filter), so for a moment, it drops my true self into full perception of my entire body. This is not an "emotion" for me, but a moment of full perception, where I actually feel my arms. For a moment, I wonder why I can't always feel the skin on my arms. Then I appreciate the movie experience for bringing me to full presence for a moment. Then I wonder if I will ever be able to bring myself to full presence without the unpredictable external stimulus. My friend turns to me and asks, "wasn't that exciting?" I say "yes".

This is a good example as to why I totally disagree with his overlay of time. All of these levels have existed at the same time.

Agreed! ❤

I’m not that smart but this video was calling me out by how I think but I’m kinda pissed off that I’m not the only one who thinks like this lol 😭😭

Just go out n get sum btchs

Search for integral theory. Thats the „subculture“ that deals with all these lines of thought.

@@sbgbreakfastclub thanks!

Thinking at level 8 only happens to me when very tired and somewhat stressed in a quite environment. And it's exhausting. You can't really exercise this high level thinking on your feet, takes to long to deeply analyse your thoughts just to answer the question "how are you". I tend to delegate some of the process as part of a conversation or with a paper if I need to deeply analyse something.

Can't find my way out @@mishael1339

you CAN stabilize these levels

​@@hoe_math by stabalise you mean that one would have control of when one accesses said level right? Because not being able to shut off the higher levels isn't good since it can get you stuck in ever increasing layers of abstraction

Hell yes. So cool to hear people talking about the phenomenological aspects of our functioning!!! This entire channel is giving me a braingasm.

Anime inner monologue = lvl 8

The scribbles sell it to me tbh

Level 9 is actually really useful for peaceful interpersonal activity. The transparency that it creates of "gaps" in the emergence of conscious apprehension of reality helps you sort of... place something in front of people that makes them react, like "what the hell did you just say? why have I never thought of it that way?" and I BELIEVE (don't quote me) that this is why they call it the "ironist." Because you are "ironically" giving people the opposite of what they need to force them to solve their own problem from the inside and make them fill in that gap.

But Doctor,,, I *am* Barbarosa.

​@@hoe_mathdamn, this guy ik that's like a decade older than me is like that

Death is the key to life; when one survives murder things become clear.

unban hypermiling from discor i dont know why baned , happened just now@@hoe_math

I have adhd too and im at lvl 12 git gud. I can tell ur level ZERO because you dont live in a barrel like me and Diogenes. You obviously dont have the HIGH IQ to understand the science of rick and morty. NOT TO MENTION LEVELS!!!!!

Take everything with consideration. People are not perfect, and this reality is strange. They may be wrong, or right, or "righter". I may be wrong.

What if goes both ways? Notice that ADHD avg % is about as high as avg % of higher levels. Either way I think ADHD is less about whether or not you think on these levels or not, but rather whether or not you're capable of switching between different levels with ease. Also maybe perhaps because ADHD results in more thinking, you are much more likely to think in higher levels. Remember that "disorder" just means you are different from an average human and you DO NOT HAVE TO apply an opinion on the diagnosis, after all it's just a summarized description of different qualities that humans might have, nothing more. In other words: Being diagnosed with ADHD does not mean that you have brain difference. It only means that you have the characteristics that a brain difference could cause. This means that the diagnosis might not be wrong, it's just that the diagnosis doesn't mean what you think it means, it's much simplier than that. Idk if I explained it right, kinda hard.

​@@vvvverone of the true things ever said

I have been tested for it multiple times because I exhibit some of the symptoms, but I have never been diagnosed and don’t think I ever will be unless I want to. That being said it’s more often that I’ve become tired of thinking about my thinking that I sit in a state of observation and constant attention to the nearest experience, feeling it in its entirety. It’s definitely not good on a long term or high level as it adds undue stress/develops thinking patterns similar to that of those with anxiety but at any point I can detach the emotion by taking a step up the rung from the video. That however ends up developing into symptoms of depression and other disorders and even dissociative disorders involved in the necessary dissociation from your current moment (paradoxically) to achieve a certain level of awareness of the current situation. It’s really quite tedious, complex, and boring as there are extremely few people to carry on a conversation with at that level. However! When you do find someone it’s amazing because there are these fundamental levels of predeveloped understanding and awareness and language gains a completely new context (I don’t study linguistics but I’ve always imagined that those who do and know linguistics may find this interesting as I once did) Language continually advances in preconceived context and the conversation seems to continue with endless insight until suddenly the realization that words in themselves are insufficient to continue into higher levels of thought as things continue to become further and deeper understanding of the “experience” being undergone. After that, you can conclude that there “is” and then at times there “is not” and that’s the best that English gets. I’ve always wanted to learn French because I know they’ve got some ways to describe pretty cool experiential/consciousness and emotional intelligence related stuff , but after doing that for a couple years I just started getting bored and realized I lost attachment with myself and was just watching myself live every day without feeling any of it. Even when I did “feel” emotions I was just a witness. I decided it was dumb and came back down to level 3-4 for a while occasionally slipping into 6-7 by force of habit and (get this one) awareness. After making enough of a fool of myself for some time I’ve decided it’s time to climb the rings again but a bit slower this time as to appreciate each environment and practice them within the “real world”. When most of this happened I was unfortunately quite young and even now I am just about to graduate college and get to finally do something… god it’s been a long time coming. I’m genuinely impressed with my patience considering where/when/how I started. Anyway, that’s my story. Hopefully I can do some cool stuff with other high level thinking individuals. I’ve always been an intense and thorough critical thinker and enjoy finding others who can vibe on the same levels. Peace✌️

Very developed Onion is an excellent description! I've also gone through a similar up bringing and had to completely unravel the onion to properly understand and observe myself. I still haven't completely unravelled everything, as a very developed onion it takes a while to go through those layers, but as you untangle your own layers you gain a new level of Consciousness.

Huh, I feel this a lot. Couldn't have put it into words like you did, though.

I think I understand what you mean , I also needed to have that kind of awareness without having the chance to think about myself in anyway , as I grew up in a neglectful household. So not so long-ago I experienced a time where I revisited myself and my urges , for that to happen I needed a safe space which for me was my mind. Anyway my point is , I have also felt empty before and I always felt like i was messed up in a way, but it's not constant it goes away .

Maybe You need to go (and You Will) throught all nasty phases to fill what You haven't got

Borderline personality disorder... depending on the severity of your emotions 😂 That's the diagnosis I give myself. I even realize Im in the moment become a slightly tailored version to them, that slowly becomes more like them, that makes it hard for people to not hangout with me, or to engage with sex easy, again I realized my internal processes are so dissociative and almost out of control, it's frightening, especially splitting because I'm kinda dangerous with both Internalizing and Externalizing 😂

Absolutely agree 100%

Therapy. No choice but to go up the levels. However, I feel like it can be a burden when trying to connect with my community.

OMG I was wondering if I'd find a comment like this! Especially with CPTSD I 100% agree! The whole time watching the video I was like... oh this is like everything I've learned in therapy 😯 It's kind of nice to be able to be in that 7th/8th stage looking back at myself and being aware in the moment about how I'm reacting to things, especially when they're things that would normally trigger me in the past. Don't know if I would ever want to be in that 9th level all the time - I find comfort in that 7/8 range of daily functioning, because even that can be a lot to deal with daily. Also, interesting point about the dissociation. I've experienced derealization and would describe that as being at level 9, but all at the same time being suspended/at that point wondering if all the levels are even real or not 🤔 Would level 10 be a complete separation/disassociation from all the levels? Are there infinite levels??? lol we need more answers

@@MomfirsttodayI feel this. when you reach a certain level of awareness within oneself, it’s almost as if you can see through others and assess the levels they are at and the levels they fluctuate between. But they are unable to do the same for you because of the phrase “people can only meet you as deeply as they’ve met themselves”. It can feel isolating to be so aware of the inner mechanisms of your own mind and thus be aware of the inner mechanisms of the minds of others before they are able to even pick up on it. It can also come off as if you are pompous or self righteous in a way when you do try to connect with others

@@Karma_return777I’ve felt this way as well. It’s so easy to see through everyone else once you get comfortable at higher levels of thinking. My friends often ask me what I think about them and it’s almost like I’m doing a magic trick for them because I would be able to see things they’ve never seen about themselves. It’s weird and isolating. But I’ve always kind of felt that way due to my neurodivergence lol

I was going to say, anyone that's truly grasped the meaning of life is probably at or above 9, so the chart is odd. I feel a decent portion of the population is capable of that, far more than 1 in a thousand or so.

​@@brandoncrabtree6632i would talk more in terms of how much often you get there. Because for example, too many people is too much busy with day-to-day affairs to get to higher levels consistently. Higher consciousness is a pretty demanding processor, and you can find yourself without energies to truly reach it. If you ask me, a truer reason why our society isn't quite right. Forget poverty!? If you can't think your way out of a situation that's basically mental slavery. Or is this shitty useless level 6 pity? Damn man this is so hard

​@@brandoncrabtree6632 The meaning to life, is to do what you want.

@@brandoncrabtree6632 no, i would very much like that to be true, but no, its much much less than one per million grasping what is life, and its higher than 9 on these charts, for sure

@@brandoncrabtree6632 I belive every mind has the potential to exceed it's own potential, and goddamn an everage human's brain is capable of everything in the future