LGR Oddware - NEC PC-FXGA DOS/V Game Accelerator Card 

So we Dragonwave now?

Thank you.

Better love story than...

Just want to ask you something, do you know anything about The Number Nine Revolution IV? A friend gave me his custom built machine of 98’ and he forgot about it. And I can barely find any info on it.

I also have a crippling addiction to Yahoo Auctions so I know that feel. It's tough these days now that shipping from Japan costs an arm and a leg. Edit: Also just wanted to express my appreciation for the quality content you've put out over the years. Thanks

Very Sega Saturn-y.

Very Japanese

It's damn impressive for its time

That was legendary. 90s Japan, when they were just finding certain areas of Japanese mainstays and voices... Epic.

@@SolidSonicTH it would have been in 2D with like, screwy 3D or FMV added lol

They also were partners of Videologic for PowerVR technology. While the first generation (PCX1/PCX2) was pretty decent, even surpassing the Voodoo on some games, the second could have crushed the Voodoo 2 in 1998. It was far, far more capable (something like 2x more) and it had a 2D core. It was basically as fast as Voodoo2's in SLI while cheap and adding an excellent 2D core. Instead of focusing on it, they sold it to Sega for the Dreamcast. While 10 million of chips for the console isn't bad, they missed the opportunity to have a solid long term foothold on this market. They could have been partners for the upcoming PowerVR3 which was, again, a excellent graphics chip (as fast as a Geforce2 GTS for the price of a Geforce2 MX, and it was with good old SD-RAM memory). STMicrolectronics & Hercules took advantage of it instead of Nec.

Man, someone needs to make a whole retro history bit on how much developers and companies totally overlooked 3D graphics in favor of "multimedia PCs". The MMX standard was a WACK thing.

Yeah, I laughed at it too - had to skip backwards and play it again. Like four times :D

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It's possible he was having Clint test the card because Clint has most of the stuff needed to run it without complications (the ¥ in particular).

Did he have to unwrap anything though? I was under the impression that what he received had already been opened. He burned copies of the packed-in CDs to keep them in their shrink wraps after all!

Ikr💟

I agree but my question is he says he's maybe not gonna play all the games. Why, he gotta return it. But hey LGR is absolutely getting things done

Would make a great LGR shirt!

I'll get right on it. Computer animation peaked when dragonfly met dinosaur.

@@SomeGuy_GRM if you made that shirt i might actually buy

That's how we did it back in the day! (Get off my lawn intensifies)

Finally someone unmarred by the degeneracy!

@@shocktnc ಠ_ಠ

It looks like something that would belong to The Mind's Eye.

10/10

This is dangerous close to Cool 3D World levels of CGI weirdness

The shot framing and music really takes it to the next level.

I dreamt I was a dragonfly. When I awoke, I was I and not a dragonfly. Was I a dinosaur dreaming I was a dragonfly, or am I now a dragonfly dreaming I am a dinosaur?

Plot twist!!

You mean like the DTL-H2000?

@@stellated I did not know about that. Wow, that's really neat!

@@stellated it was rare to find that PlayStation ISA devkit...

@@chairulamin6427 I wasn't suggesting it was but it was similar to what Daniel M was suggesting. It would have been cool if it had been sold to hobbyists like the Net Yaroze though.

Exactly my thought. Gaming seems to be secondary. The killer feature is being able to push code to it (and rapidly test it).

Issues with expense of adding the extra feature .. they should have made it a GPU for the pc.. replace the vga card with this...

It might've been a technical exercise to condense the PC-FX to a single board that they decided to throw onto the market for fun

@@michelvanbriemen3459 Japan has always been game console adverse hence the NES being marketed there as the Family Computer and had a Basic module with keyboard. So they probably decided they might sell more games if they sold a space saving card that put the video game system on a card you put in a PC.

Send it to his Twitter account.

Oh cool, didnt know they have office here in the Philippines.

@@WingMaster562 Their office is in Makati. They offer broadcast solutions such as transmitters and encoders for Digital TV.

I thought the same thing. It caught my eye immediately. I googled it and could find literally nothing about it. I mean, Yamaha makes dirt bikes and also keyboards. Perhaps Kubota dabbled im producing chips at some point? Edit: Yes, apparently in ‘86 Kubota began producing electronic circuit boards. Don’t know if they still do but that answers that. Apparently they actually make vending machines today too if you were curious.

@@Yomom12388 Yamaha is a piano company that started making motors. Anything yamaha motors related is not "Yamaha." I'm also probably one of the few people that gives more of a shit about Yamaha's audio business then their motor company. Their logo is also 3 tuning forks in a circle so. it's partly because yamaha's audio business is one of the most well respected world wide. not for any particular quality, but they are good for what they do at the price they do it. nothing they make instrument wise is especially high end but it's not cheap either. their consumer audio equipment is also good, but they can't make speakers if they aren't studio monitors.

Nissin makes ramen noodles and brake components for motorcycles / automotive.

For me it evokes a memory of cheap rubber slippers you'd buy in Poland, in open air markets in the '90s, the crazy decade of randomness. Even more hilarious. They're kind of a cult item around here these days.

Seeing that made me do a double take. I had no idea!

Neither did I but I'm so glad I did. This had a certain magic to it.

Yeah, I had it in my calendar for a week on Tuesday 😆

Oh hey it's Big D

@@Ashquacks - He’s outta herrrrrre

It's interesting that NEC is still around

It's like the card is tentacle'd to your PC.

I had a bet with myself how quickly this would be quoted ... number 3. Bravo

Knowing the PC-FX game library it's not that far fetched 😂

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I was gonna comment a related subreddit, but i'm not convinced Clint's userbase is primarilly 18+

ok the dragonfly just happened!!!! NO CONTEST!

The nec dinosaur section was all pre-rendered video. The ps1 was doing it in realtime.

Dragonfly just wins, hands down no contest "Flawless Victory". That Dragonfly video has filled a void in my heart.

"The PlayStation can produce mind-boggling effects."

To be fair, the PSX dinosaur demo had no background objects/textures. Still think it was far better than this $450 card though!!

I wonder if you can use an external ISSA slot adapter to run it by itself

@@Dtr146 I wouldn't think so. The card would run (since it runs without the host computer actually finishing booting), but how would you access an optical drive?

Yeah, if you were going to do that then you might as well track down a physical PC-FX.

@@ianweber9248 yeah good point

Pcfx-ception

@@hyperslime64 at least 4 Virtual Boy games is a 6th of library... Poor thing didn’t stand a chance

@@redpup6931 Good for eyeball vision loss and headaches,the VBoy!

There is more CDi things lol

While Chinese DOS usually got the correct \ sign because both GB2312-80 and Big-5 doesn't alter the standard 7-bit ASCII encode, with the down side being there is no half-width yen sign available, and things can get messed up easily if one byte of a wide character is missing. Though there is an unrelated quirk that the screen shows less lines to allow 16px character to be shown properly, at least for some eariler Chinese environments. (It's not my personal experience, though, by the time I start using computer the oldest thing I would use is Windows 98 which has Chinese support built into the DOS environment.)

Same

Would of been made perfect, if they had the TRex wave farewell to the Dragon flies as they fluttered away.

Did the Dragonfly grow or the Dinosaur shrink ? We will never know.

@@MrDuncl I feel like that was the mother butterfly or something

Any pc engine or msx types they are the most Japanese things ever. Games are so 80s 90s anime. Awesome

Somehow I knew Tenchi Muyo would be associated with this thing! I kept thinking about it while he was playing through the Zenki game.

Less people probably died too

hey it's punk rock sailor moon dude🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Closest thing I can think of are the Caterpillar branded smartphones, though they contracted out to have them made.

@@draketungsten74 darn, you beat me to it!

That's pretty much what Samsung does today, they produce construction equipment and even combat vehicles such as the K9 Thunder howitzer.

@@ozzyp97 that’s pretty much every South Korean company’s MO; diversify into as many industries as you can: case in point is Daewoo; they make everything from construction equipment, to ocean going ships, to cars (that last one really didn’t work out here in the US)

Imageine a graphics chipset designed by an actual monarch caterpillar. *edit: spelling and emphasis on the caterpillar

No,no we don't.

@@iladelproductions8820 and the vote is 81 to 1 and he has given it to us

I mean literally 3 out of 4 games had scandily clad women on the cover (and yea while i know langrisser is unfortunately just like that it counts)

Briefly?? The whole video should be about it.

I mean, it's kind of part of the reason it failed; back in the 90s video games, especially console games, were still seen as kid's toys even in Japan, and while porn games thrived in the PC scene since messing around with PCs was a niche thing to begin with, nobody was ready to buy on the idea of a console "for adults" the way the idea was presented with the PC-FX. I mean, beyond all the jokes and memes the truth is that the general japanese populance looks down on otakus and otaku media in general much like most people in the west. Now look at something like Chip-chan and tell me how marketable you think that is for a console game.

@@inendlesspain4724 At launch I was actually put off buying a PS2 due to the fact that almost every launch title seemed to involve shooting cops, and breaking the law in other ways. i suppose that is considered to be good clean Kiddie's fun.

​@@MrDuncl Well, you know, the PS2 came out during the early 2000s, where games were striving to be more mature, but in a more "dark and serious" kind of way, you know, something more marketable for mainstream audiences than anime porn.

What animation would that be?

Well at least one of these you can see here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5wbz3YdK8vg.html They used the same opening for Zenki FX from the anime lol

There is a video expansion card port, the 3D chip on this dev card is the same 3D chip.

that super star soldier demo (which looked like wing war type flat polygons) was running on the alternative 'iron man' hardware which was a parallel successor to the PC-Engine project that got canned in favour of this white elephant. Total missed opportunity, but nothing to do with the PC-FX

@@sandycheeks7865 intersting, thanks. I always thought the Iron-man hardware was the basis for PC-FX. Recall seeing stories of its "morphing" of 2d images capability heh.

Dragonfly dinosaur needs to become a star in vaporwave videos

Its on RU-vid.

Respecc

I'm seeing them on eBay for like $20? What makes it special?

That's the best way to describe him. I'm going to recommend him this way from now on

It's okay, we don't make errors/glitches in our BASIC program, just happy little farts :)

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Well played, sir.

I ended up getting a heap of old Sidewinder stuff over the past few years and absolutely love all of them. Not had the luck to get an original Gravis controller though, only the Xterminator Digital, which is awesome, if a bit glitchy.

@@Ametisti I only got the Sidewinder Freestyle Pro pad that has build in motion controls. While the motion controls seem to work surprisingly well, the D-Pad is just horrible. Also got a Logitech WingMan Precision which seems far better (only gave it short test under DOS 6.22) but under Windows 98 SE I'm actually using a 8BitDo M30 which works even though it's a modern device. Of cause only because my Retro PC (Pentium 233 MMX) has one of the first ATX motherboards and comes with two USB ports.

@@moomah5929 The Logitech WingMan Precision and its successors, the F310 and F710 have some of the worst D-Pads I’ve ever used. Makes the 360 controller’s D-Pad look better in comparison.

@@JackBandicootsBunker While this might be true, the Freestyle Pro's is 100 time worse. More or less unuseable. There is a reason why I'm using the M30 instead of the WingMan. xD

@@Ametisti The Gravis gamepad pro was pretty good thought.

vga is not even digital

@@sixdfx You're right! They could have done it without a DAC!

@@djosearth3618 Lotta old video cards had VGA passthrough, I was surprised they didn't do that here

I think at the time most TV CRTs had better fidelity than PC monitors, so that could be one reason. Either that, or they didn't want the 224p of the animations to look worse on a higher resolution PC display. I know I said two things that sound contradictory... Yes

@@Rikorage Nope, at the time this card was made most TV CRTs had much worse fidelity - you could run stuff at 1024x768 even on 15" monitors (even on some 14" monitors, but software with non-adjustable font and image sizes it could get a bit hard to make out the details), but with mos TV's you could get 800x600 at best and often only 640x480 and even then it would not be the crisp graphics - the games often looked better to me on consoles running on TV screens when I was younger but it was just a kind of "smoothing effect" that actually reduced the sharpness of the image that made them seem better. The same thing made 80-column character display on TV look messy and pretty much forced a choice between a TV with 40-column text or an actual computer monitor - that or using 4-pixels wide font which leaves zero cap between many characters and not enough detail for the characters to look good. Even in the 2000's I could not get a crisp output on CRT TV's that had no VGA (nor HDMI/DisplayPort/DVI/etc...) and you had to use S-video or composite output of video card to get the thing to show up on TV - I wanted to run terminal with IRC-client (irssi) on TV back then but gave up the idea because even at ridiculously low "character resolution" (columns x rows) it still looked messy and 40x25 was not enough for my needs. But I digress... 244p animation on PC monitor would not have looked like it had less fidelity, but it *would* look more pixelated because of greater fidelity and sharpness; which actually does translate to the animation looking *smoother* and thus better on CRT TV but the reason is the opposite of what you said in the first sentence - but as you said yourself, you wrote two things that sound contradictory, so... I just wanted to clarify this thing :D Afterthought: I recall actually thinking in the 90's that it would be cool to run games on TV because the monitors most had at the time were 14" or 15" "big" and TV's were often larger, which could give you larger image and you could play without being right in front of the display - which would have been better in many cases despite the lower resolution and sharpness. Also with games often being lower resolution anyway, often 320x240, the less sharp graphics on TV screen would have looked smoother without even losing graphical details. Then the 3D accelerators came which could smooth any pixelated graphics without losing ability to show razor sharp details (example being 1st person shooters with smooooth texturing but sharp edges) and CRT TV's became simply worse in all ways, but we weren't quite there yet at the time so that's a whole different topic ;) In the end the real contradiction here is that sometimes the technically worse could be aesthetically better :)

I think of them making garden sized tractors. Any Japanese heavy machinery we see here in the UK is from Hitachi.

i only knew them making one of those massive tractors lol

@@CupoChinoMusic Yeah. I was like "what is that tractor company doing here" lol

Oh, and langrisser got a remaster on SWITCH, PC and PS4 a while back, English translation and all

Agreed!

KV-1380R

Reminds me of fighting Psycho Mantis :D

It reminded me of the early 90's "Mind's Eye" animation series.

I was wondering the same thing. That is definitely the same script they use for their logo.

@@smpstech Indeed it is definily their moniker in both spelling and style.

Same company. They got into the professional 3D workstation market (think like SGI machines) in the early to mid 90's for whatever reasons.

I thought it was a brand of cheap plastic slippers from Poland in the '90s :D