Nick returns to his field area for the first time since 1988. Heise Volcanic Field and normal faults near Lidy Hot Springs, Idaho. Filmed on September 3, 2021.
Thanks to viewer Jim Jackson for finding this: "Thomas E. Sullivan, 65, was fatally wounded on June 26, 1987 after he fired a high-powered rifle at close range through the rear door of his home at Sullivan's ranch as Jefferson County sheriff deputies and state police sought to arrest him after a confrontation that had lasted several hours."
I wonder what their probable cause was to go to Sullivan’s home in the first place. Why did Sullivan choose lethal force, was there an arrest warrant? With the show of force, it makes Sullivan look like a dangerous fugitive.
@@johnnash5118 you don’t need “probable cause” to go to someone’s home to talk to them. And apparently, according to Nick’s post here, they had an arrest warrant. So, probable cause complete.
Thanks for taking us along. So this is where it all began for you. All of us students that you have taught sure are glad you became the person you are. Thanks Nick.
Fun video, it brought back memories of roaming the PNW back in the 70s and 80s. We'd pull off on a side road and camp just about anywhere in forest service and blm lands. There were thousands of little camp sites like that all over the west. With camping gear in the car we never needed a motel. Ex refused to pay the $10 to $20 a night they charged then. Even forest service established campgrounds were free then. The only time we had to pay to camp was in national parks at $5 to $10 a night. It was a different world back then. I really liked seeing where you did your field work and you thesis. For my masters in education in 1992 my thesis was a research review. I had tried to do an anthropology research and thesis in the seventies but field work arrangements fell through. Then shortly after my college funding disappeared. That ended my anthro dreams. So now I'm old and disabled but still learning. Thanks Prof.
Can't imagine how you managed to map out so many faults on the ground in an area that seems to be nearly all covered in grass and scrub! I wouldn't see any from ground level, I'm sure! Let alone managing to survive out there, relying on a car: they always break down with me, and I never went anywhere without a trunk full of tools and spares! Quite apart from all the maps, old fashioned cameras, and field guides we needed before smart phones and GPS! Your own map must be a near miracle to have been able to produce! Many thanks for showing. (y)
I was just flicking through the Nicolaus C. Zenter playlist and rewatched this one, for no particular reason. Beginning to end, really enjoyed it. Thanks Nic
Much love from Richland! Can’t tell you how much I enjoy these adventures, my dad and I absolutely love to go on drives, so your videos are often what inspires us to travel to one place or another. Cannot thank you enough!
Very enjoyable time with you, thank you! There are always more questions.. like, did you choose the area and subject for your thesis? Geology is so tactile!! Love you!
You reminded me of a walk I took with my father. Down the road from the dam at lake Crowley. He was describing the tuff as we went. Carrying our fishing rods the whole time…. Much geology, no fish that day. Must be more than forty years ago now….
Another note. In 1962 I played oboe in the WV All-State Band for WV Day at the Seattle World's Fair. My parents drove out (the band went by train). Afterwards my parents and I went to Hawaii for 2 weeks (my high school graduation present--my mother had always wanted to go there) and came back to meet up w/ my older brother, sister-in-law and young niece. We then went across Oregon and Idaho before dropping down to Utah where they were living at the time. We camped along Cape Horn Creek in the Stanley Basin for a couple of nights. We re-named it "Mosquito Gulch" for obvious reasons.
Thanks for taking me down memory lane. My memory lane was with my dear Father --Dr. A.F. Frederickson--a geologist. He added rucksacks and geologists picks to all of his daughters summer outfits and took us along with him as he traveled through "Gods Country". This included climbing mountains in Norway, Spain, throughout the West of the US, Mexico and many other places. He was an excellent professor who taught at the Univ. of Pittsburgh and in any vehicle he happened to be driving just because it passed through geologic formations ! Geologists are rock stars!
Really enjoyed this day out with you... Could help but smile as you arrived at your spot ....all to yourself.... Plus the 10k viewers all piled into your car with you who eagerly got out and looked around this idyllic camp at your side ....and enjoyed nature's hot tub!!!! Plus your story!!!😊👍
Homesick Owyhee Desert Rat, drank in every mile and foot step. Not smelled sage brush in 25 years. So pleased camp was completely clean! Not sure it Hot enough to be my style, but then no cold snow stream to mix according to season. Thank you Nick. I still never lock my house doors. Better to trust 'Sometimes'. 2c
When you show travertine, I can't help but think of Mammoth Hot Springs at Yellowstone (the geyser basins as well) and imagine this area being like that at its formation. The beds seem to be dipping now yet you still have the proximal hot springs,... impressive. THANKS NICK~!
Little white lines I rock all parallel rock is blueish . The bird must be the great great grandchild of your friend. Quite a view and looks like farming in the valley. They must irrigate to get it green. Yes that was fun.
Ha ha i did the same thing on forest service land winter of 90-91. I set up camp at Dillon Falls on the Deschutes River between Bend and My Bachelor. Two major differences were I was living in an old Airstream not a tent and I was being a ski bum not a student. It was a great experience in a beautiful place.
Nick, pleasure to scramble with you and hear your stories. I think it is a great way to listen to rocks and humans tell a story. Would like to know where the heat comes from to warm the water. Keep doing this kind of geology, it's so natural. Your voice lends itself to the land you are explaining.
On the spring: I would presume there is a fault nearby that is allowing geothermally heated water to reach the surface. Considering Nick was out there originally to map normal faults. It's not volcanic activity, since all that stopped in the area a long time ago.
My husband's research site was in a similar habitat and we never got permits either just set up camp. Occasionally someone would stop and ask what we were doing and never gave us any trouble, were happy with our answer. We did ask ranchers for permission if on their land. If leaving the near area we did throw essential equipment etc in the car and took it with us so didn't risk too much. One place nice like that some locals came around in the middle of the night and took pot shots from their car. As soon as they left he got out of there and moved to another camp area.
The tuffs in this video are very similar to the rhyolites we have here in Eastern Colorado on the Palmer divide from the ignimbrite flareups to our SW. Our colors range from blue gray to purple to pink to brick red and shades in between, with the quartz and pumice inclusions. I find these tuff deposits absolutely fascinating.
Prof. Zentner, hello and your visit to Lidy Hot Springs proofs that you can go back in time to find what you've might have missed earlier on. Thank you for bringing us along on your trip to areas we might never get to see; priceless to say the least.
A trip down memory lane, magpies, mountain lions, and COTM.... You gotta love it! I drove thru Yakima canyon last weekend. Now I gotta rewatch that episode! Thanks Nick and enjoy summer!
H Nick, Just watched this one again for the third time. It’s such a great place, but I do feel so sad about your stuff getting stolen. You were such a kid then!! I wonder what you did after it happened to replace every thing.😳💕
super cool to go back...takes me back to my hons mapping project field trip in a flash flood plain in the karoo desert in south africa. if i was in your shoes cooliing down in a hotsprings with a beer is a good added benefit to choosing a project area.
Damn! You got the Bagwan's tent? NOW I am impressed... lol! I love Idaho and her rocks, but the hot springs are just the best. And back then it probably was perfectly legal. The two week rule is pretty new.
I believe this is probably unique among all the PNW "YouTubing" professional geologists. I have NEVER seen any video with a geologist revisiting an area that decades before was the key to getting their Masters or PhD. I love this Nick. Well done! 🥰 (How many geologists have a "Sullivan" story to top off their "base camp" story?)
You're just a young pup. I had been teaching at Cambridge for five years when you were still in grad school! I have to admit thought, you had a much better place to do research than I did. I wasn't in geology. I was in music, and my places to do research were dusty old library stacks, and little stinky practice rooms. I grew up in country like that though, where you could see out, and where the geology was everywhere. At present I'm in Southeastern Nebraska. There's no geology to be seen, and you can't see out past the corn or the next hill. Get up on the hill and you can't see past the corn or the next hill over once the corn has been harvested. Please go as far down memory lane as you want. I'm enjoying it.
Seeing your old notebook took me back to my days as a student journalist in the early 2000s. So many reporter's notebooks saved and that I can no longer read thanks to my chicken scratch. Thank you for sharing your story. But man, those a-holes who stole your stuff really suck.
Hi, Kim Ulmanis. Your comment reminds me that I was leafing through a steno pad the other day, looking for a blank page, and realizing that I recalled almost nothing of the notes recorded in it, mostly phone messages or notes from my 1974-ish flatmate. I'm still wondering who "Jim" was. He left several notes for me, but I don't recall him at all.
My masters degree memories also involved beautiful scenery but in New England where there was more cold beer and fewer hot springs. I go to every reunion I can. Thanks for the walk. It was interesting to see how lush it was by the creek.
hey - so i'm in s.e. utah, headed to montana in a few weeks (then to alaska!), and started researching hot springs along the way on the 'tube - natch, ran into you and lidy. o man. i can't remember when i've enjoyed a lecture/field trip more - i came for the hot springs, but found geology! and soooo much more. the combination of your teaching and the youtube platform, is really just next level. and all this for free? count me in! (p.s. also think i fell just a wee bit in love...) thank you!
I love going on vacation with you, Mr. Nick! Stuck being masked and limited exposures with an autoimmune thing, so I remain your devoted fan doing what I'd rather do vicariously through these excursions. That and I learn a lot! Thank you!
Nick, Did you know, if a Mountain Lion walks out of the mountains and into the plains it is no longer a Mountain Lion. It's now a Cougar. If the Cougar walks south into Mexico, it becomes a Puma.
Looking at your picture when you wondered about the flowers, my first thought was rabbitbrush for the extensive yellow "shrubs". I looked it up on Wikipedia which is quite good for plants. Chrysothamnus viscidiflorus is one of the many species which lurks in the northerly areas. It is in the Asteraceae (daisy family). I did not even try for the white one which was far too small, but I would guess Asteraceae also. I spent my masters degree time in a bog on Dolly Sods, Tucker County, WV (I practically grew up on Dolly Sods as we always went there--now I lead a tour to the area for the WV Wildflower Pilgrimage). For my PhD (both from UNC, Chapel Hill) I worked on vegetation on diabase dikes and sills in the Gettysburg Basin, PA.
You didn't finish your disaster story! What happened to your field papers? Did you have to start all over? Reconstruct your maps? Data points? How long did it set you back? What about the Lidy hot spring? What's its story?
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. What a bunch of chumps to swipe all your stuff! At least you got the "yellow book" back. Visiting landscapes after decades really impresses just how slow geologic process take compared to our swift lives. Beautiful outcrops of the welded tuff and much more beautiful stories contained therein. Thanks, once again, for the field trip.
Thanks again for taking us along. I love your description of what use to be there geologically speaking. I have been through some of that area so nice to be back!
Nick, I am just loving all these videos you have been making lately. Would love for you to visit Amboy Crater in Amboy California. That cinder cone and associated lavas are really a treat that I believe you would enjoy. Also the Pisgah Crater and Laca field and also the Cima Volcanics near the Kelsi Dunes (many cones and lavas there as well). Hopefully one day you could get down here to Southern California and do a video on Amboy. Please keep the videos coming, we love them.
Lavic Lake Volcanic field where lava flows cross I-40 is classified as dormant by USGS and the Smithsonian's Global Volcanic Program. Pisgah Crater is in Lavic Lake and younger than Amboy, which is extinct and newer data put it at around 80,000 years old. Pisgah is dated about 24,000 years old. . Another very youthful looking, but undated cinder cone and lava field is located in the Sunshine Peak area of the Lava Beds Mountains, south of Pisgah Crater. Since fault lines run through Lavic Lake another eruption is certain to occur there again. There is a Geologyhub video on Amboy Crater and Lavic Lake. This is link to Lavic Lake. volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=323190 Link to Amboy Crater. volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=323826 Link to Google Earth pics of Lavic Lake. www.google.com/maps/place/Lavic+Lake+volcanic+field/@34.7458063,-116.3766234,253m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c51db456221325:0x288d6c96aba024a2!8m2!3d34.7465679!4d-116.3751511
Looks like where we would go to do field work in Utah Nevada Arizona E Calif for my husband's PhD program in mammology. We would just set up camp wherever ( no permits) we never had a problem but once a guy came out of the hill brought us coffee etc.. He was some gov person assigned to watch a dirt plane runway for illegal stuff. He asked what we were doing was happy with our answer so visited then hiked off after asking if we would like coffee tomorrow (yes!!!) cause he could use the human company .
Ya it used to be like that. Yes there were plenty of rattle snakes so we slept on cots. If a rare person drove by on the way to their ranch ( no fences there) they would stop chat ask if you need help and if not tell you cpuld drop by to visit or ask directions etc . They would tie a rope on your car and pull you out if you broke down or got stuck. If you did go visit it was hard to leave cause they didn't get many visitors so would keep talking and feeding you and give you lemonade. Really great times then in the 1970s.
I really wish there was someone that produced the kind of content you do around here in PA. I know its a much older and less exciting being without the volcanic history but I'd still like to learn more about how the area formed and what all the rocks are. I've tried learning more about it but any information short of very very basic information and full blown journal articles seems hard to come by. Theres nothing in the middle. Your excitement and enthusiasm about whatever topic you cover is infectious.
Brings back memories. Lived on the Medicine Lodge from the summer of 82 to the spring of 83. As a high school freshman it was a very interesting place always loved this type of geology.
You may not be far off...I think he is the one singing (and maybe playing the guitar) on the intro music for the "Two Minute Geology" series he did. Not a bad voice at all. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MMbsGHVzXRU.html
Thank you for the video Nick, my best friend spent many years dating ash from the Yellowstone hot spot, I'll have to ask her if she recalls dating the ashes from your thesis.
Suddenly feel like a brother from another mother. In January 1973 I did a senior mapping project in Brewster County of SW Texas. Terrain looks very similar. I've been back several times since I've retired and walked over "the graben" that I mapped during that January so long ago. My stuff was never bothered by others as there was no one, I mean no one for miles. Been trying to take a dozen students from my grad alma mater there to introduce them to geology for three years now. The school was slow to bring things together in year one, covid the last two.. Hopefully spring of 2022...At least the rocks won't have changed much..... Hot spring there too, but a long twenty-five mile walk.
When I picture 'freshwater limestone' I instantly think of the glacial Ice sheets where for cumulatively millions of years, there have been fluctuations of freezing and thawing of innumerable cubic feet of water over this landscape.
Super walk and information on your early days. I assume the warm waters are from underground springs, still related to Yellowstone. The angles shown, are they from your measurements with a compass? Or is it a educated guess? Gizmo may just be getting old, needs knees replaced, ha!
Man you have talked that Buddy's place up so much. When I'm in Twin Falls in a couple of weeks I might just have to drive a little farther to Pocatello to check it out.
