This boss is so annoying. The whole game has happily let you progress without perfect guarding, dodge and attaack has worked fine. Even his first phase is easy with this technique. The second phase feels like the developers have all of a sudden decided only perfect guarding is viable. Dodge and punish just doesn't work
In my case i could hold guard (If you have some guard regain talents) for the fast flurries. Then attack after, or make a perfect guard at the last attack in chain (Even better if you have "perfect guard regains guard regain as HP talent), to regain most of the hp you lost for holding block on the faster combos.
@@neillaw Bullshit, did you actually watch the video? My issue is I run out of legion so insanely fast. I just respected P organ to get the bonuses, still I just cant hold up the should all the time like this guy in the video.
It is, I spent three days using the shield then said screw it im going to be aggressive. Beat him in a few more tries. Spam guard his quick flurries and only use the shield on the heave attack lunges and aerial type moves. WAAAAAY easier.
@CernyGaming But you’re missing the point. You shouldn’t have to use the shield to beat him. (The shield doesn’t work as well as people say) The boss shouldn’t be this hard. The game’s combat doesn’t fit this boss. They screwed it up trying to please the git gud crowd instead of making a fun, engaging fight.
I struggled more and more with each boss in this game, and as much as I love the lore and the exploration, I'm tapping out after the Door Guardian. I beat it, but the the experience was so unpleasant. Not even close to what I call fun in games. I lived through the horrors of 8-bit, and I'm not doing it again. Too much for my skill set (but kudos to anyone who can do it).
I'd had troubles beating the "corrupted parade master" and I used a spectre for the swamp monster, but I managed to beat them. I've been with the nameless puppet for 2 days now and I can't beat it. I'm about to give up. This puppet is a nightmare for me.
The Nameless Puppet definitely puts all other bosses in the game to shame. It's impressively done but definitely one of the most punishing bosses I've come across in the genre. If she didn't have the self heal on strike, I'd put the Nameless Puppet on the same level as Melania from Elden Ring. That heal gives her an edge though.
I beat the boss bro but yeah it's not worth it. I never felt any satisfaction like you experience with Fromsoft bosses. Turn it off. Bin it, sell it or lock it away forever so your mental health will never be destroyed again. This boss was designed for Rain Man
Don't give up. But know if u want the platnium you have to beat him twice I barley did it on original game and can destroy his first form in Ng+ but his second form is working me
To everyone struggling with phase 2, BLOCKING with your weapon is better than being hit! You'll never parry if you never block, and you can recover some HP back if you rush him. Block with your weapon and circle around the phase 2 combos. Don't forget to swing between openings, light swings, just regain your HP and keep adding damage. I used trident of the covenant to take advantage of punishment damage P can deal after a boss swings. I think this might be exclusive to spears, I really don't know. Didn't use Aegis, I just parried and blocked. Used double use grinder with blight, buffed at the start of both phases. Pandamonium didn't help, I wouldn't suggest any arm but Aegis(Its pretty tight if you clutch with it, like in this video). You can parry him, just remember not to get greedy after your parry chains. TBH I forgot aegis existed till I started struggling in this boss but had no plugs so I was aegisless. Just remember you can dead angle out of some of his attacks, many swings flew over my head by moving against them. Move around, parry, block, and swing light whenever his swings pause. When his eyes glow yellow for his fury rushdown, the eyes signal he's locked into a direction. Move out of the way once you see a yellow gleam. By far his worst attack for me was breaking my guard then doing a fury attack, manage your stamina and let some of his phases pass by to recover if you need. I also used the stamina regen ring. REMEMBER Don't heal in his face mid-combo, survive till he pauses then heal. Greeding a heal is the fastest way to get smacked! Good luck, I beat him, and so can you!
I just beat this guy on NG+. My p-organ had pretty much no guard upgrades but all health flasks and legion, plus 4 amulet slots. I only respecced the arm to fully upgrade Aegis, this was the first time I ever used that arm but it made the whole fight really easy. With my amount of legion I was able to keep the Aegis shield up for most of the fight and hacked away at the boss with the electric coil stick and the puppet ripper. I didn't even need the grindstone. Amulets for more stamina and faster stamina regen were a life saver. The only attacks I really had to dodge were the red sword attacks in phase 2 where he leaves a trail that explodes. Great guides, keep up the good work!
This boss fight is so fricken hard. I hate to repeat what others have said but the parry window in this game feels unfair. It feels like the window is so small it's hard to even duplicate twice in a row many times.
Agree with you. This is completely unfair. At least Phase 2 is. I can get through phase 1 90% of time, but not once got below 50% on phase 2. Really sucks
Not to mention if you miss a parry you lose health the risk to reward is not balanced in a game like sekiro or even dark souls if you miss a parry only your posture or stamina gets affected in this game its health why would i risk health when dodging gives me more chance to avoid damage. For a game that wants you to even encourages you to parry the devs forget that learning the mechanic shouldn't be punishment.
This was encouraging; almost every guide I watch always has the Twin Dragon sword. I know that thing is basically every player's revolutionary weapon, but I can't get the hang of it and it's just annoying that when I try to get advice as a basic gamer rather than one of those god-like pros that is able to do a hundred tricks with a samurai sword - besides that, I just personally think the katana hype is just so overdone. It's very nice to see someone else using the Puppet Ripper scythe to defeat Nameless Puppet. The scythe has always been my specialty, but it's been especially hard with Nameless Puppet because he's so OP.
I'm glad you liked it! I love the range and stance damage on the Puppet Ripper. Since I got it, it's been my favourite weapon in every playthrough by a long shot.
@@CernyGaming and besides that, I’m usually a Mage type of player, so anything that helps me fight from a distance is definitely a must. Of course since there’s no magic options in Lies of P, have to make do with Advance build as well as working direct combat with Technique tactics. So the Puppet Ripper is the best choice for me personally.
I found this video off Google and I had to come here and thank you personally because I just beat the puppet first time NG+ cus I couldn't beat him in NG
Hey thanks very much, glad I could help! Well done beating him, especially on NG+. That's one of the hardest bosses in the genre so you should be proud.
First off I’m not a good souls player absolutely Nadia. But I beat Elden Ring 3 times to get all achievements. Felt a bit proud tbh 😀. But this game is brutal in parts lol. I’m currently stuck on the nameless Puppet in new game plus. I got a feeling it’s going to haunt me in my dreams very soon! I’m going to try to soldier on through so wish me all the best if you’re able too 🤷♂️😀 thanks in advance!! PS I bloody did it tonight. Got the weapon and boy is it great. So do I go for New game plus 2 or chill for a while before I have a heart attack from the stress this game gives you!!
Well, largely the community seems to agree. Most folk don't like having to completely redesign their character to stand a chance. I enjoyed the challenge, but not everyone is into that level of punishment!
Phase 1 is quite well done, phase 2 on the other hand is way over the top. I don’t like the idea of needing a respec to beat a boss, my biggest issue seems to be lack of stamina meaning I can’t parry, block or punish after the relentless flurries this boss dishes out in P2. At least in P1 you get a few moments to breathe.
@@spcbrass I beat him on NG & NG+ , stamina definitely helps with this boss , I levelled mine to 30 in NG+ , with enough practice you can start to read phase 2 but its always hectic.
@@XenomorphRNA mine was only at 18, took it up to 25 and breezed through phase 1. Phase two came down to a balance of dodging, parries and throwable’s when I got the chance to get a few off in succession. Put them on the quick slot belt. Also used puppet string as a gap closer in both phases.
This does NOT WORK ANYMORE. The game must have changed, you CAN NOT just hold up your Aegis like that anymore, you continue to loose legion just by holding it up. So they seem to have patched this.
@@CernyGaming Well then you are on an outdated game version or something. Like I said when you hold aegis up the Legion bar depletes just for holding it up. It does NOT do that for him in the video. I run out extremely fast even in the 1st phase, just 3 items for refill is not enough to do both phases with both phases using Aegis as a shield constantly like this.
@@CernyGaming Dude you are so annoying. If you want to make the claim why do I need to pull your teeth? How about you first and foremost state the fact if your Legion depletes just by holding Ageis up or not, did you win the fight despite this? Were you just fast and managed it that way anyway. Or does it not deplete by just holding like in this video? Then make at least some attempt to explain why. I have Aegis upgraded to max, what am I missing and why is my game act differently from yours. Your basic b1tch statement "still works" says NOTHING.
This boss, in my opinion, leaves a massive stain on what is otherwise a good game. To lock a good ending behind such an unnecessarily-difficult fight was a bad choice. The issue with them not balancing/nerfing this boss more is it really does send the wrong message to people about any future games. If they fail to understand why this boss needs an update, then I’m not confident that they will learn from their mistakes and make better choices in future games. It makes me want to skip over anything else they do and stick with FromSoftware. No one thinks tedious, overly-difficult garbage like the Nameless Puppet is fun. There is a reason why FromSoftware hasn’t made a boss like this; because they actually understand the damn Souls formula and how to balance it.
My strat is twin dragon sword. You need to remember some attack pattern but the longer one are perfect to charge attack parry. Especially when he goes red you can easily counter those. The window for that is much bigger than normal deflect Second phase is similar and I throw as much throwable as I can while trying to dodge the attacks. Barely beat him with a cheeky dash in fable art but definitely doable. I tried to poking strat and it didn’t feel as good as the twin sword
Some bad information here, you absolutely do not want to be using the shock grindstone. Phase 1 is extremely easy to dodge or parry everything in, your best bet for phase 1 is honestly to just parry everything for fast staggers and phase 1 goes down easily. Phase 2 is the problem, and you need the grindstone that turns your guard into auto perfect guard, shock grindstone will not help you as you arent getting enough hits in a row to proc the shock. Another thing that helps a LOT is throwing items, but again, save everything for phase 2. Phase 1 is extremely easy once you have seen it once to parry everything, so save everything and pull out all the stops for phase 2.
A few simple tips: when he crouches down with swords at his side and starts glowing red, the move where he instantly charges across the arena at you, start running to the side. He will miss his charge and end up right beside you, easy to punish with a few hits. When he does the move where he pokes forward, instantly followed by another poke, then another poke and finally a leap into the air that slams down, dont guard that. As he is about to slam down to the ground, roll towards him, through the explosion, and you get a few free hits to punish him. When he leaps into the air and starts spinning with air moving around him, the move where he travels through the air towards you, roll towards him as he is coming towards you, he will land beside you, now be mindful he does do an additional slash after he lands, but this is another move that is extremely easy to punish with a hit or two.
"Bad information" and "something different from what I do" are not one and the same thing. My method worked for me, and trivialised the fight. You do you, buddy.
Phase 1 is decently easy, much easier than Champion Victor or many other bosses up til this point. I can no-hit phase 1, the reason I'm even on this video is because I'm getting my shit pushed in by phase 2 :'(@@EmilyRose0
Because they wanted to please the git gud crowd and they wanted bragging rights for having the hardest boss. They think that having an overly-difficult boss is “cool” and makes their game awesome. It doesn’t. It leaves a huge stain on the game and wipes out all of the hard work you spent on the game.
I was stuck for days. Watched this, then went in and beat it completely differently. Idk why im mentioning this. Used the scythe weapon like him but never used legion and only fable once 😂 key for me was roling into him and striking behind during phase 2
unironically beat it a few minutes later , the entire game I have been trying to perfect guard every boss attack and it mostly worked. With this boss however, it did NOT. I would end up missing the timings on the second phase twin blades flurry. As soon as I started using guard regen and a few perfect guards here and there, it went so SMOOTHLY.
@@CernyGaming I see,thank you.I get through the First Phase fairly easy withou even using the Shield but the 2nd gets really tricky and I can't seen to beat it with 3 but it's always really close,like 5-7 hits away from dying so I'm just gaslighting myself I'll parry normally and kill it 'cause I'm too stubborn and bored to redesign P-Organs xd
Hey I'm never going to put someone down for sheer determination. If you want to go toe to toe with him then you'll get that awe some sense of satisfaction when you finally put him down. You got this!@@butterflyeffect6065
Mann I wanna respec my p organs but I want to know exactly all the things I should get or I’m gonna be lost … I’m soooo upset I can’t beat this boss 😭😭 (ok my edit after a week or so! Beat nameless puppet after posting this lol … now on to lords of the fallen!)
Nice job! I kept trying to find a spare minute to write up a full p organ setup for you but between LoTF and work I didn't get chance. Congrats on beating the game!
I can pretty much parry the whole first phase.. but I just get destroyed in the second phase. I'm going to try the Aegis shield. I was never a fan of it, as I don't know how it works. Like how to do a counter attack. but I'll try
This is the worst boss in the history of gaming. I could not beat this guy and I gave up my heart to get into NG+. What a horrible final boss. It's like the developers were like "Oh, everyone complains about final bosses being easy. Let's make sure that doesn't happen with our game. That's right! We're gonna cheat!"
After 30 tries i can confirm this strategy doe NOT work. @nd phase you cannot be aggressive and sit behind Aegis.. he moves ALL OVER THE PLACE. He won't go toe to toe. You have to chase him around. This boss is ridiculous if you're a casual player. At least give me a specter!!! For fucks sake Malenia and Elden Beast weren't this bad!!!
I loved this fight to be honest. I found a lot of this game to be very easy, and I thought that such an ultimate challenge to finish it off really made the game for me.
I think I may be one of the few out there who prefer the "bad" ending. Though of course I chose to defy Top G(eptto) to experience this battle. That being said, your guide was most useful. Though a bit late for me after losing about a solid 12 times to the nameless puppet.
