Life in the Exclusive Brethren Church, and after. 

I'm very thankful this is true - I'm one of the 'Brethren' myself, and everything I hear of the PBCC is especially horrifying. There but for the grace of God...

What exactly do you mean by "untainted" ?

@@catherinejoule2453 unchanged

Love is inclusive not exclusive.

Sorry to hear that Paul, very sad, I use to work for PB for many years, very nice people in certain ways and not as with any narrow minded religious group.

You’re 100 % correct. Dishonest in business..

I have personally dealt with the cutting edge that shed my emotional blood indifferently & repeatedly, from an ex exclusive brethren, who is a product of, and has been conditioned by this religion/cult. Emotional cruelty was second nature at times. I now realize, from research etc, what could drive a person to be so calculated and cruel, while actually thinking/believing they were being a decent person... They are taught to believe that everyone outside the religion is bad & will take advantage of them. In my experience the exact opposite was the case. I think women in society in general are more at risk from guys coming out of this religion, than the guys are from the society they have been told is uncaring and bad!! Of course every person is different, but the conflict of the utter arrogance and self entitlement (which is likely to be a learned thing in that very male dominated religion) when he clearly thought/believed he was being a decent person, versus the better side of the guy was stunning to behold. Cruel. There needs to be more awareness of the impact of this religion on people. Both the ones suffering it by having to leave behind family etc (another example of cruelty) & tackle their conditioning, and the ones who are interacting with them once they leave. Love and healing to all.

He wasn’t all that

Amazing and very accurate quote!! Thanks for that!!

I am a member of the brethren in Scotland would you like to join?

@@Bojachi_VODs Me too! 'Open' or 'closed'?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lbb4xwYj19g.html Theres a reason so many "sects" of Christianity. Jesus is not religion, its a relationship

Dear marlom.....I know exactly how you feel when u come out of such a church which feels like being in prison... I have been in the brethren Church for the last 12 years and was asked 2 ban watching tv, listen to "worldly" songs, play playstation games etc. as they were considered worldly and satanic... when I came out of this place and went to a church where there was freedom it felt like coming out of jail and seeing the real world outside...it was nightmare being around toxic n dogmatic people...but now I'm free in christ

Yay , so now you're pro transgender children and abortions a okay right? Sold your soul for the trinkets of Satan

i dont all the actual rules would work in the modern world

@@shutupkarl5389 DarkMatter2525: How GOD FAVORS EVIL💥

Same here, still nuts, but not batshit crazy? Where are you from? I grew up in Saint John, NB.

Did you grow up in the closed brethren or the open?

We r all sinners saved by grace,your no different..

Depending on the type of amish plenty do indeed shun.

i like them to an extent

They don't get to come back if they choose not to be amish. Its not a real choice.

I very much doubt that they were open brethren as that sounds more exclusive than open who are very much in the world compared to exclusive

​@@lukepinn621, I'd agree with you that it sounds they came from a closed or exclusive brethren. There were at least three types of brethren when I lived in Montreal; open, closed and tight. I think what we called tight would be called exclusive now.

Amen 🙏🏽 they've forgotten Jesus loves everyone regardless ❤🙌🏽🙏🏽

My relatives aren't nutters! Lol...

I know your comment is 4 years old but I just moved here from Tauranga and noticed how many brethren are here. They have a huge school in Frimley and that's why I'm watching this video to know what they actually do lol

Search on Google for open brethren and exclusive brethren. Open brethren are nowhere near as strict and are autonomous congregations whereas exclusive are much much more strict and centrally controlled (in our times) by Bruce Hales.

That's a difficult question to answer, as within the groups described in this way differ a good deal among themselves as to practice. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm one of the so-called 'exclusive brethren'. This the best definition I can provide: 'Exclusive brethren' maintain links in fellowship between multiple local meetings (or 'localities'), and attempt to walk in fellowship with as many believers as they can on this basis, believing this most closely reflects church order as we have it in the New Testament. The links between localities mean that if a judgement is arrived at in a certain locality, all other localities are bound by that judgement. For example, if a person is recognised as no longer walking in fellowship in a certain place, then they are 'universally' recognised as not walking in fellowship. The 'exclusive' label may derive from the principle of not allow persons to partake of the Lord's Supper indiscriminately. That is, enquiry would be made as to the reality of a person's faith, the godliness of their walk, etc, before they would break bread. So, it wouldn't be possible in the vast majority of cases for a person to come in off the street on a Sunday morning and partake in the cup and the loaf immediately. Brethren would not be willing to go to services at churches, or meetings of another fellowship with which they don't walk. In some cases, certain brethren may not be willing to go to social events organised by or attended by those not in fellowship, unless they're purely family occasions. Emphasis is made on commitment to the brethren with whom one breads bread. 'Open brethren' do not hold a practical universal view of fellowship in the same way that 'exclusive brethren' do. Many 'open meetings' operate independently of any other meeting (rather like a non-denominational church), so a judgement arrived at in a meeting is not generally binding on any other. They may work with other meetings, however. Some 'open brethren' will recieve a person at the Lord's table without much more than a brief enquiry - others will conduct a more rigorous enquiry into a person's faith or conduct, but generally participation in the Lord's Supper is more 'open'. Many 'open brethren' would be free to go to services or meetings held by other fellowships or denominations, provided that there was nothing doctrinally or morally wrong held or practiced by the group in question. I think that's about as broad an outline as I can give. If you have any further questions, I'll be happy to answer them if I can.

Hi Addison. I was also 11 when my parents left the cult along with my siblings except for my eldest sister. Hope you and your family are doing well

It started in about 1820 and then spread to Plymouth--leader JN Darby-and Bristol -

Amen 🙏🏽 I always thought brethren were staunch in christ but by the sounds of it they're not. I'm a Christian and know Jesus loves everyone regardless 🙏🏽 so therefore we must love thy neighbors, for Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Much love my brothers and sisters ❤ 🙏🏽🙌🏽

@@sheilanixon913 J.N. Darby wouldn't recognise or support the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church - they've thrown aside the majority of the scriptural principles which J.N.D. held.

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LOL what a joke, "His blessed Son died for nothing" died for a couple of day the arose from the dead, whoopdy fucking doo, if you believe that bullshit story. The God of the Bible is the evil monster, up there with Hitler and Putin

@@AdoptedDaughterofJesus you believe that bullshit you Ftard

@@Djr67 DarkMatter2525: How GOD FAVORS EVIL💥

They got stuck on Timothy 2. It even got changed in their Bible somewhere along the way to suit. And yes, there's plenty of scripture that points directly to the truth. Like the love of money being the root of all evil. And not being able to serve two masters. And that pastors/leaders are not meant to be given to drink... And the truth will set us free etc etc. If they're so free, why are they caged off from the rest of the world, and behave more wordly according to scriptural interpretation, than a lot of people I know! Mamon and power is their God. It's total hypocrisy in my opinion.

Just FYI, not all Brethren are related, or like this! We in the Church of the Brethren believe in no force in religion, that we must be in the world in order to shine a light on Christ in the world, and are not exclusive like this.....so please be careful in just saying Brethren..ty And we def read the bible :)

There are many Brethren I know and they all own computers, have regular jobs, own TVs etc But there is one extreme group in my area that keeps to itself called the Raven Brethren and they hold doctrines foreign to others. Most are like the local Baptists and not extreme. The problem is that the Brethren movement has many little groups under its umbrella some of these have taken the name without any relationship to the original movement and others are schisms of schisms and their beliefs and approaches are highly varied among them. What is being described in this video is not universal to the whole so-called Brethren movement.

You would be surprised, then, to find out that there are Bible believing churches that are open and accepting of homosexual Christians.

I'm pretty sure its aleister crowley

Wait for real???

@@민레나-r1n Yes, TO MEGA THERION was born into the Exclusive Brethren and from the Brethren theology that I've read, it is actually very ontologically similar to our theology.

Wait, what? I was raised brethren and never heard this before

​@@민레나-r1nCrowleys parents were super strict Christians. His mother was the one who labeled him The Beast 666. Sick.

If you choose to belong to any religion you are accepting their doctrine but no one is forcing you to belong.

yes, that's why they're handing out flyers in the street

Yep, but they can also afford better lawyers and spin doctors. I think there head spokesmen quit after realising he was breaking the law.

@@brinjoness3386 What are you talking about?

@@Melissa0774 warch the 60 minutes Australian report on them. They talk about it there. It's on RU-vid

Yep they do

That's mennonite

You are very much wrong. PB started since 1825 when Edward Cronin and Edward Wilson's family gathered together at Wilson's house, breaking the Bread for the Lord Supper for the first time. Then they moved to Fitzwilliam's Square 9 as the number of the people increased, Lord Congleton and Hutchinson, Henry Groves, Bellet joined there and moved to Aungier Street again. Thereafter John Nelson Darby Joined in late 1827. Darby wasn't famous so much until the split in 1848 between Open Brethren and Closed Brethren.

I think they started in 1848, and quickly divided into 2 groups 1) The Open Brethren led by George Muller and Anthony Norris Groves, based in Bristol The Open Group meet up with Christians from other churches and 2) The Exclusive Brethren Christian Church or Kelly Brethren or London Brethren first led by J>N>Darby and A.J. Cronin based in Plymouth.They have a Great Leader --The Elect Vessel -Bruce Hales , who is based in Melbourne This group do not meet up with other Christians , not even their fellow brethren in the Open Brethren although their teachings are similar I was engaged to someone from the Exclusives in 1857 , but we split up when Jim Taylor said that we had to separate from our relatives who were not in the Brethren.Most of my family were Evangelical Low Church Anglicans , and I loved them so much that I broke off our engagement. Many Exclusives from the London area including some politicians eg Anthony Crosland , and a leading Historian A.J.P.Taylor all left in 1961 and 1962 , My best friend from school decided to stay "in" when we left and I have n ever seen her since 1957. I still feel very sad when I think about all the people I knew . loved and lost.I have never lost my faith and now go to a Cof E Church like I did all those years ago.

Sorry it was in 1957 not 1857

Try the early nineteenth century.

@@sheilanixon913 I never knew that A.J.P. Taylor was amongst 'brethren', that's interesting. I don't blame anyone for leaving during the '60s. My grandparents (on both sides) suffered through the '60s and then separated at the division in 1970. I've heard so many stories from older brethren of family members lost and relationships broken off at 1970 and before. I can't begin to imagine what you and others have gone through... that period stands as a warning to all of us today.

U are insane

@@loriannrichardsshinn6714 That's not incorrect.

@@IndustrialMilitia 😂😂😂

Very true...if u know Alistair crowley saw the brethren churchs hypocrisy and was abused by his brethren mother who called him a "beast" when he was a kid which traumatized him and he decided 2 b a satanist instead

Get back on your meds you lunatic.

As someone who grew up in the brethren, it’s an abusive cult filled with evil and mind control. TRUST ME- because I would know first hand the horrors they hide

As an ex brethren I agree with u mikayla

Why you on the internet then and using technology?

Just FYI, not all Brethren are related, or like this! We in the Church of the Brethren believe in no force in religion, that we must be in the world in order to shine a light on Christ in the world, and are not exclusive like this.....so please be careful in just saying Brethren..ty

@@antelopeparkchurch4297that’s fair

There’s an ex-exclusive brethren group on Facebook

Just FYI, not all Brethren are related, or like this! We in the Church of the Brethren believe in no force in religion, that we must be in the world in order to shine a light on Christ in the world, and are not exclusive like this.....so please be careful in just saying Brethren..ty

Elaborate?

Good morning Brother Seems like a good group as long as good truth Brother I am very much interested if possible please let me know what is your principles and doctrines Thank you Brother

​@@bussajoseph8441Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. 🙏🏽 🙌🏽 hope this helps, hallelujah 🙌🏽

My thoughts exactly, although I think they have an Ephesus age spirit and need an evangelical spirit to keep humble, prepare their children via interaction with the local population as well as fulfilling the most important of all great commission. When a church becomes a duty and not a mission it’s lost its vision. The lord sent a sword upon the earth the sword of the spirit which divides sin and convicts it to the cross where it belongs. The church doesn’t need to evolve into a secret society time capsule. It needs to adapt but stay true to the word, set boundaries with children, don’t abuse them and tell them the truth about sin and they won’t want any part of it.