The fact that the developers confirmed that Rachel is the doe is even more heartbreaking. She was leading the player to her body the whole time, and when they finally find it she looks down sadly and passes on.
Mikal Nicholson i don't really remember if Nathan appears any more after this scene but if he doesn't this could be his body and maybe Rachel survived idk
m. chris i could very well be Nathan's body actually. If Rachel was dead for as long as she was missing, her decaying body wouldn't have a smell anymore....then again idunno jf nathan would have been dead long enough to be rotting either
I can't believe max and Chloe we're hanging out in the junkyard where Rachel was buried that's messed up just imagine you looking for someone and there right under you literally your standing right on them
xsunshinexo 4302 I mean if could be a different junkyard but then I'm shattered because ya know it could be the junkyard Rachel and Chloe hang out before.
Oh my god. The ending scene in BTS where it closes off with Rachel in The Dark Room.. I was so offended. Like, they already hurt us, why’d they have to add that in there, too? 😩
aloha snackbar tbh I know this is a game but it just hurts my heart knowing that Chloe is never gonna hang out with Rachel, talk with Rachel, etc like I wish they could make it to where that wasn't Rachel but we all know that's not gonna happen .
ak_johnson I really liked Rachel’s character in Before the Storm and this scene makes me wanna like explode. When I watched Before the Storm I was like “wow, Chloe and Rachel are 👌”. But then I’m like “oh yeah... fricc... cry time” lol
Chloe's life is so unfair... meant to be a scholar, started out that way... then her dad dies, her friend leaves, falls in love with Rachel who "disappears", and gets shot in the girls bathroom by the same guy who supposedly overdosed and killed the person she loves. There's also David (who's not as bad as he's made sometimes), and sure Max came back but at the time of Chloe's destined death, Chloe would never find out and die in a very lonely way.
Tulip3030 I just watched the ending to before the storm and when Rachel’s phone rings she’s in the dark room. You can see the tile and hear the camera. I was shook.
@@fantasy_4772 I think the canon ending is when Chloe dies xd And wtf "bad ending" i mean, yeah, you lose Chloe but at the same time you save everyone, a whole city/village (? Sounds pretty fair to me
@@Ambitaxxful but it is bad cuz you lose the power and think you can save the whole fucking world and many pepole and the storm was after max not chole it is selffish to save the city in front of the world and many other pepole just saying
@@fantasy_4772 the storm was because of Max's powers but it only became a problem when she tried and tried saving Chloe. So, yeah, she had to die, Max had to lose her powers so she wouldn't try to go back and save her causing a ruckus in time, why should a whole town pay for it though? It's definitely more selfish to save one person and let a whole lot of other people die.
Rachel: Your not losing me that easy Rachel: - dies in next season - But yea this scene legit made me cry because of Rachel told Chloe in the hospital ❤
Yeah, I just finished before the storm and ran into this video with this cutscene, not gonna lie I started crying and no games before made me cry but Life is Strange could do it, god this game is a masterpiece
Elvira Bulado No. Before The Storm is the second game. The first game is this one. But the second game is about what happened before everything in the first game. If that makes any sense.
I cried while playing before the storm and when the ending cutscenes played, but when I finally calmed down there was the after ending scene and it was heartwrenching 😖😖
Chiicken Salt I think seeing her personality in before the storm really makes this scene much worst....before I felt heartbroken for Chloe because you can hear it in her voice how fucked up she felt but I couldn’t really feel bad for Rachel because I didn’t grow feelings for her character yet
I finished the second episode of Before the Storm. Why on earth am I torturing myself watching this scene? This made the scene more relevant since playing Before the Storm. It's a work of art.
Beyoncé MasterClass How can you say it's bad? Why? Because Chloe original actress isn't in it. Ashly burch did help the devs team. Besides in my opinion I think before the storm is good. I was quite curious what Rachel character is like and I already like Rachel character but as for Chloe's voice actress in before the storm I have to credit to her she's doing quite good. It's the prequel so just think of it as Chloe younger age.
BRAINWASHED Man I just about died from sadness... This game was absolutely incredible. I just wish there was someway, somehow we could save Rachel. After before the storms final episode I can’t handle it lol
Phoenix actually Rachel took drugs way before Nathan was even a thought. She was with frank and had a “thing” or just a hookup which is still fucked up cuz Rachel never told Chloe. Chloe had to find out through max at the rv. But yeah they both use drugs so it was gonna happen sooner or later.
EnzeruAnimeFan I really hope so. I hate that there's no way to save her in this game it's like what's the point of LIS: BTS I really wish you could save unless she does some unspeakable thing in one of the episodes.
EnzeruAnimeFan I'm hoping Before the Storm shows us why she can't be alive in any alternative timeline. Even without William's death, even without being friends with punk badass Chloe... she still dies, no matter what. Why?
Guys, IT IS indeed a timeline with Rachel alive. Why? In BtS, you can find a photo with some students at Blackwell, and there is MAX. And that picture was made when she left Arcadia Bay. She fucked up time so much, I think she created some universe in which she never left and stays with Chloe. And if that is so, why it can't be one with Rachel alive? It's discutable, but time is something very... mysterious.
Chloe has a depressing life, really. Once her father died, everything began falling apart. Max left for Seattle, and all her sadness and anger began building up from there. From David just being David, from her mother trying to coverup all traces of her father, to meeting the junkyard meltdown in Before the Storm. Then discovering Rachel's body, her angel. Her love. Then soon...giving up her life in order to save Arcadia Bay - the last piece of happiness other than Max she ever had. Instead of giving up the place where all of her sadness happened, she gives up herself in order to save the innocent lives that'll live on and have better lives instead of her.
After playing BtS I feel *really* bad for what happened to Rachel and for Chloe's feelings after that. I hardly gave a single fuck about Rachel while playing the original game, but not now.
Here's the thing: I don't think Rachel is gonna die during 'Before the Storm'. It's gonna end roughly a year before her disappearance. So the tension of whatever happens within BtS is perfectly intact. Only thing we know for sure is that certain characters (Chloe, Frank, Dana... basically everyone who appeared in Life is Strange) will most probably survive. ... that, or they will pull some "alternate timeline" plottwist, which would actually be GOOD for the tension.
I just pretend like LIS 1 didn't happen and after playing Farewell and Before The Storm in that order I just went on to reading The Road Not Taken. Probably the best continuation off of BTS so far. First the prologue of it (The Talk That Never Happened, then The Road Not Taken. All of these are on Archive You're Own.)
The deer at the end represents Rachel's spirit finally being able to rest knowing that her best friend at least had closure to her murder. And the ghost deer is seen by max a few times throughout the game. When max says " she feels like rachel is guiding them to the truth " she was 100% right. This game is a masterpiece, and before the storm made it even better.
i rewatched this today and the first time i watched it i cried so much but this time (now that my boyfriend has passed away) i instantly felt the pain in my heart and weeped just like Chloe did... i know that pain anywhere
At first, i didnt really know rachel it was simply sad, after before the storm i replayed it and i knew whats goint to happen so i was still just sad.But after watching someone playing trough third time, and i realized that the deer was Rachel and he was kinda guiding max, and when they found the grave she just sadly disappeared i dropped a few tears, i still get goosebumps when thinking about it.Fking brilliant dontnod.Brilliant.
Damn listen to the lyrics of the song "and we could run away, before the light of the day, you know we always could"... Is so freakin hard to not to cry after playing Before the Storm. I feel so destroyed now
@@ieatthighs the behind the scenes episode is called Voices of Arcadia Bay. I'd link to it directly but it's a pretty infamous problem lately where most comments with links won't show up.
I was already so gutted from the choice I had to make at the beginning of this Episode. All my emotions had been spent by the time I discovered Rachel's fate.
Now that I'm watching this after episode 2 of Before the Storm, the truck Chloe is driving is the one she said she was going to fix to ditch Arcadia Bay with Rachel. The truck that would've made their dreams come true.
At 3:49 , we can see the pic with Rachel and Nathan on it. Why did Chloe think that it's Nathan's fault ?! this is obviously not him who's taking the photo ! They were both drugged !
I honestly blamed Nathan too. I thought the camera might be automatic and he set it to a timer and posed next to her after drugging her. I never thought there even was another person other than Nathan to blame...
He say he is sorry because he feel guilty for Rachel's death. If you are close or in love for someone and she/he die or has a serious accident in front of you, you are going to think this is your fault because you did nothing for help her/him (like for Kate's suicide). When Max put the Rachel's clothes, Nate looks at her with a really happy face and said "Rachel !". And Jeffershit is a fucking liar. When Max wakes up he said that Nate kills Chloe.
It's Nathan posing with Rachel and he might as well set a timer on his camera to pose with her. Jefferson had not a single photograph with boys, I don't think he would want Nathan in his picture, especially since Natahn besides being male doesn't represent what Jefferson wants to capture; innocence; and the shift from light to dark etc. - Nathan was beyond that already.
after getting to know rachel's personality, her hopes and dreams, her relationship with chloe and her life, this is just sad...she was messed up but innocent as well. she had no idea what was coming to her and honestly the fact that this relates to people, makes it worse. i gotta say, telltale outdid themselves in all of their games, it just keeps getting better and better. ❤️❤️❤️
Every time something bad happens, it's there. I think its Rachel (sorry, I'm crying rn) Max never got to meet her. What if she already did. Though the doe. And surprising It's her Spirit animal.
Lucas Stamper It's also there when Max and Chloe are at the junkyard, after Chloe shoots the bottles and Frank threatens them both. After you woke up from passing out, if you walk around a bit, Max will think something, I can't remember exactly what. Follow it, you have the opportunity to take a photo of it but when the photo develops, the doe isn't there. When the doe first appears, you're stood around where Rachel is buried.
And once you discover Rachel's corpse, the camera pans out and you can see the doe in the foreground, fading away as Max and Chloe sob where Rachel's body is.
Michael Wong she was never a perfect friend to Chloe, she was seeing frank behind her back. And she was also banging Jefferson behind franks back. In the open Rachel may have been an angel. But in reality she was just as human as anyone else.
+linieblau maybe ... yes , in my opinion Rachel is really dead. Maybe Chloe saw Rachel's face or anything else like Rachel's signs so she could confirm that body was Rachel, and cried so much like that.
I mean i wasn’t that sad about Rachels death in the first life is strange, But now i got so attached to Rachel in Life Is Strange Before the Storm and got to hear about her life and how kind she was. Makes me cry about what’s going to happen😭😭😭
Closely everyone has a spirit animal. We can clearly see that the Doe is Rachels Spirit animal! Max animal is the Butterfly and Chloes is the raven! Thats why the Doe is at the End of this Video, Rachel was watching them! The most players thought that the Doe is Max‘s Spirit animal but its Rachel, who is helping max with her Powers! Im sure Rachel had powers too.... Rachel is dead thats why the Doe is transparent all the time. But i might be wrong tho, because sometimes it looked like that the doe is max animal, cause of her Doe T-shirts, the raven rachels, because her Wind power she might have and the butterfly chloes cause it flight on her grave at her funeral... idk ^^" write your ideas under this! Wanna hear them :D
I don't really know why so many people believe that Rachel's spirit animal is the doe. We are clearly told by Samuel that Max's spirit animal is the doe. The doe is a spirit animal only seen by Max so it would definitely make sense for it to look transparent. Also the fading at the end of this scene can also be explained. The doe's purpose was to guide Max through this adventure and once the mystery was solved, the doe's job was done, thus fading away because it's no longer needed. There is also plenty of symbolism which supports the fact that Max's spirit animal is the doe. Also, the butterfly doesn't necessarily represent a spirit animal. It just symbolizes the chaos theory and butterfly effect. It firstly appears at the beginning of the game when Max receives her powers because the changes she could do with them would be able to have a devastating effect which in my opinion is clearly a reference to the butterfly effect.
It was confirmed by the creators that Rachel is the doe. The doe (Rachel) guided max and Chloe. When max and Chloe find Rachel’s body the doe disappears meaning that Rachel can finally Rest In Peace and get justice
To put it in perspective Chloe is more of the victim here. Everyone leaves her and goes wrong. Without Max involvement this is her life: Has a scholarship to a prestigious highschool Best friend moves away Dad dies. Mom gets with a harsh and authortarian step father. She meets a girl.... The girl secretly cheats and goes behind her back... Girl dies because of her choices Chloe gets drugged and kidnapped by the same guy who possibly killedher girlfriend... She escapes and wants to usr the incident to blackmail his wealthy family for money She meets the cruel fate of being shot in a bathroom. Versus Rachel... who is also a victim but her demise is purely her own fault. Has a happy family. Gets into acting and learns to manipulate everyone into liking her. She is a social chameleon. She meets a fellow student at a concert She is suspicious of her dads possible affair and bets that the girl she meets will come with her..... To put it plainly besides the drama of her mom not being her real mom and the side chick being her real.mom... Rachel has a nice childhood After all the drama passes... which btw Chloe gets kidnapped because of Rachel and possibly expelled earlier on.... the two are close. Dating even... But Rachel knows the Chloe isnt a good bet at running away. She is in debt... no drugs or money.... tumultuous family relations... indecisive. Rachel turns to soemone who can meet her needs. Frank Bowers. He has drugs which he gives her... she manipulates him into thinking thwy are more when shes using him as an escape ticket. He flips on her once and she dumps his ass. Then famous teacher jefferson enters the picture. He loves her. He takes pictures of her. He offers to elevate her and give his a modelling career which is what she wants. But he is her demise. Her insatiable need for more and more is what ends her. She took so many risks behind Chloes back that it cost her her life. Thats all there is to it. While she manipulated others she was also manipulated. But she always had the upper hand until jefferson came along. Her game of powertrips ended the moment someone had more power than her. She didnt deserve to die but she has been building up a lot of bad Karma thats for sure.
Before Life is strange: before the storm, I just thought that Chloe was really rude to Max JUST because she left, and cared ONLY for Rachel, However, after Life is strange: before the storm, I actually got to find out how amazing Rachel was, and if I were Chloe, I would've felt the same way.
*** Spoilers*** All those who already played the 1st of before the storm check the mythical wind... When they are about to find rachel that mythical wind appears in this episode... Evrything is connected now... Cant wait for episode 2
Damn this game is so sad but I've loved it for so many years and always will. It really just shows you what happens to some people and some girls. It's real life
Can't remember any other game that would touch me so hard. I could hardly play any other game while waitng for new episodes of LIS to release. I can't play any game on my PC ever since I finished Ep2 of BTS. Just can't. I feel like I must finish it before heading back over to Witcher and other stuff. Can I pls go sleep and wake up on Dec. 20 of 2017?
i feel like it would add more feeling to it as it is real ppl, i hope that if they continuing to do so that they don’t change the story or anything that happened in the game
HHGGNNUUU HEY NOW HEY NOW WHOS READY TO HAVE THEIR INSIDES RIPPED OUT BECAUSE WE ARE ALL GONNA GET ATTACHED TO RACHEL IN BEFORE THE STORM AND WE KNOW NOTHING WE CAN DO WILL STOP THIS SCENE FROM HAPPENING HEY LETS GOO WOOOOO!!!! WhydoIPlaythesekindsofgamesallteydoisdestroymyheart.
ryann45 I wasn't really attached to Rachel when I first saw this. But since I've seen before the storm and how in love she was with chloe and how they promised to run away together. My heart just can't.
I have a theory that the ghost deer we see is Rachel’s soul and when we founded her we saw the deer disappearing like: you have found me so I shall Rest In Peace now And in life is strange before the storm the crow we see is Chloe’s father soul
This scene was damn intense to me when I saw it the very first time. But since Chapter 1 of Before the storm got released this scene makes me cry even more
My friend is working on a Life is Strange x Destiny fic if anyone would like to read an early prologue draft and give feedback. If anyone is interested let me know and I’ll send you a message with a link or copy of the text. Concept: Taking place hundreds of years after the events of LiS1 and BtS, Rachel is brought back to life by a ghost and is reborn as a Guardian in The Traveler’s Light and swaps out as both a Shin Malfur and Slayer of Crota and Oryx. We plan on multiple story arcs and Characters from LiS and BtS in alternate timelines. A prologue with Rachel Amber(New Light), Jaren Ward and Dredgen Yor precedes as well as an adventure in Arcadia Bay 2013, where Rachel reunites with old friends and meets new ones. She’s lost her memories but a sinister vision sends her back in time to defend her old friends in her old home from the greatest threat Arcadia Bay and The Last City have ever seen. As she regains her memories her affinity with The Light increases as does her power. This alternate timeline leads into the events of The Witch Queen as well as brings a happy, bittersweet ending to Rachel, Chloe and Max’s tale as a trio. AmberPriceField fans as well as The Drifter fans will love this(hopefully lol) this is based on a Bay and Bae survive timeline. Let me know if you’re interested in reading this and please let me know your thoughts and suggestions!
"Chloe, what will it take to convince you?" "How about, um...." "Oh..." *Rachel kisses Chloe* "Was that convincing enough?" "Yea-" *Rachel makes out with Chloe* (After this scene in BTS I SOBBBBBBED at Rachel's death in LiS. They should've made a 4th episode to show how Chloe and Rachel were like a couple months before she went missing, to elaborate on Rachel and Frank, their friendship, the jealousy... etc.)
I keep thinking to myself, I still think that Rachel is not dead! I feel it ... probably jefferson only took photos, then who would kill him? himself? I think not. Even katy got rid of death, so why not rachel? since from the first ep we look for it, not only would such a death and BAM, certainly not.
When she was digging up "Rachel" when I first watched it I thought it was Nathan because of the shirt.. Also let me get it straight? So Nathan accidently gave Rachel too many drugs which is how she died and then he got in trouble with Jeffreson and he realised he couldn't Handle it so Jeffreson killed him and buried them both. Rachel first then Nathan on top? Which is why I only see Nathans shirt? Then later the voice message left by Nathan that you get really hurts me.. this game ruins me 😂
The developers confirmed that the body was, in fact, Rachel's. It was more than likely in a body bag, which is why Max kept sticking her hands into the hole. She was fiddling around with it so she and Chloe could see inside or underneath it. We just didn't see it because Chloe had stated earlier in the game that Rachel had been gone for six months. By that point, Rachel's corpse would've been rotting and the developers didn't want to show us a decomposing corpse. That's why Max said, "Uggh! That smell!" It's because Rachel's body was decaying and the scent would've been disgusting. Nathan also wasn't dead at this point in the game yet. He was still alive and Chloe had tried to track him down at the "End of the World" party, which is after this scene.
This is the part where the game became suspense and horror. Also, the magic deer is Rachel all the time. Edited: I've seen the ending of LiS: Before yhe Storm, and I'll be honest. It was disappointing. It never explains how or why did Rachel goes with Jefferson and it never confirms if they had a relationship or not. Sure, Jefferson says Rachel's in love with him, but who knows if he's lying or not. If he is telling the truth, then let's say Rachel coincidentally met another human chameleon who happens to be a camera psycho.
In LIS when you go to Rachel and Chloe's hangout spot at the junkyard, you can find a note from Rachel about a guy she met and had an interest in (telling chloe), and there were many speculations it was about Jefferson, which the developers later confirmed it was about him and that Rachel did indeed love him.
OMG! I just thought of something! What if since Rachel's dead, maybe in before the storm, during the wild fire a deer died the one we see a lot through out the game what if Rachel's spirit is in the deer watching them. 😮
Chloe's life is full of pain and losses. I'm saying "IS" cause technically, in the world where she lives, in the game, she doomed to struggle with pain from her dad, Rachel and Max losses. Every damn time when each of us playing LIS and BTS. But Chloe with Rachel and with Max, they make us all better I believe. They made me better for sure, I felt alive again. And I think in some way they are our angels that sacrifice their happiness to make this world a better place. To be better and kinder, love and help - that what each of us can do to give meaning for what those poor girls go through each time of someone playing the LIS games.
If you listened to the entire lecture, Jefferson says something along the lines of; "If I tied any one of you, and kept you in a dark room, I could catch you in a moment of innocence." When I first played, I became super suspicious of him and now I see why.
You, know something you're one of the first people to actually mention that , or one of the first I've heard it from at least, not even I remembered that, most people are overcome with sadness or anger, so they forget that part. That's a very good observation
@@AnotherGameNerd5 I was recently playing LiS and I realized how creepy Jefferson was. I guess people are blindsided by Jefferson, because he is attractive and-kind should I say? He comes off as a good person, so I guess I see where other people are coming from.
I didn’t really felt this scene but after playing before the storm then it all made sense to me and that’s when i felt bad and really sad... life is so unfair and messed up. It fucks us up..
