@@irishguyplays4156 I don’t understand why drew died tho. Didn’t he get a full athletic scholarship to go to Oregon state ? He got this scholarship in the fall of 2010 in BTS. this means 3 years later in LiS1 he should have graduated and been out of Blackwell already. Was he in LiS1? I don’t remember. I might have to play that game again
@@itza8334 No he was in bts but not LIS 1 but totally caught me by surprise. I think that's what they were going for because people wouldn't have expected it
??? i am?? so confused by the people commenting that steph should like... feel less emotion in the save arcadia bay one. like????? her friends were murdered?? that's pretty traumatic my guy
Right like Before the storm literally sets up the fact that Chloe and Steph were close in the first game even if we never actually saw them together much… clearly Steph was heartbroken over Chloe’s death
@@irishguyplays4156 I'm pretty sure she did, it was confirmed in LIS 2 that max and chloe are the only survivors. I'm pretty sure it was Stephs mom calling her about the tornado and that's why she has PTSD, hearing what happened as it happened
@@tecnonecto David survived, who now has a loving relationship with both Max and Chloe which is my justification for going Bae. The lovable bitch Victoria is also alive. The Homeless Lady is alive too if Max warned her in Episode 3. Warren could be alive, I recall Max texting him to take cover. I did also read that someone on the team said in a Q&A that Kate’s alive if she didn’t jump. In the comics Max also talks about calling Kate. Mr North must be alive since Mikey didn’t say anything about him. Why was Drew even in Arcadia Bay though? He should be at Oregon State, we saw a full ride scholarship offer in BtS. Is Damon breaking his knee now canon over if he breaks Mikey’s arm? It is sad Steph had bury her Mom but Joyce having to bury Chloe is sadder. Kids burying their parents is the flow of life, not parents burying their kids.
@@chloe-stephlis6281 idk, I never read the comics, but I'm pretty sure the only survivor is David, Max, And Chloe. Kate was in the hospital in Arcadia bay, Warren is at the diner, the homeless woman maybe escaped, but that was pre-tornado. And Jefferson killed Victoria, so idk
It's good that life is strange dev still giving you an option for saving chloe/arcadia bay in the next game (lis 2 and wavelengths). It's feels like this option is the most important in life is strange franchise
Wavelengths is basically what happens when the most cheerful person in haven springs has mental breakdown and depressed, nevertheless I still love it. true colors is the best for me
Oh so either way Steph has trauma, I chose to not save Arcadia bay, which causes Steph mum to die and drew, which made me feel so bad for Steph and to save it causes Steph to feel devastated because of Chloe and Rachel’s death and feeling shit about the world. Damn life is strange you know how to pull on the heartstrings lol x
I know what you mean. I chose to save Chloe as well. Even now I do stand by that decision but seeing Steph and Mikey mourn her Mother and Drew broke my heart. The decisions you make in the LiS games really do come down to how you feel about the games and characters. If you're like me Joyce, Chloe, and David are like loved ones to my Max. Yes, it's sad the Joyce dies but she's in Heaven with William now and David and Chloe have finally made the peace she wanted them too. My heart does break for Steph, Mikey, and whoever else lost loved ones on 10/11/13 but loved ones come first. Sorry, didn't mean to go on like that.
When I was playing through, I felt like the storm PTSD was really well done and I was thinking what could possibly give her such reaction in case you save Arcadia Bay. Gotta say, it really is not that believable that she would be so shaken by the Bay ending. Anyway, thanks for posting this, I was really curious what the differences were
Yeah I totally agree with you. The shooting may cause shock but not so much that could make her seem like an empty shell. Chloe and Rachel after all were not that important to her.
Interesting - while I totally agree with you that the Bae ending and Steph having PTSD go hand-in-hand here, I personally found it totally believable that she would be that shaken from the Bay ending. Maybe not to the lengths of PTSD, but the anniversary of a friend's death (especially THAT death) at your high school I thought could bring this out in Steph. She did crush on Steph and based on the flashbacks in Wavelengths she hung out with Chloe even after the events of BtS. Interesting to hear another perspective!
@@inevitableerin7617 well, shaken for sure, but the PTSD level was kind of off charts there. Like I would understand if it was something that she would be part of, but most likely it was something that she just heard about, or just saw Nathan/Jefferson in handcuffs later on. Although she'd be shaken by it, I don't think it would be om the same level she'd be in when she watched her mother die and a huge storm annihilating her hometown. Dunno, just felt like the storm PTSD fit much better with reaction we had seen.
@@rosalielis9248 I think they were important to her. Remember she had a huge crush on Rachel. Plus, you can see her talking to Rose at the hospital. She tries to also warm Chloe about evil Wells trying to get her. Gave her that DVD for free. Every time we see her she seems to go out of her way for Chloe. In Steph’s memories it sounds like they played D&D regularly and went to a Pride Day together.
I think bringing back cloe as a physical character wont work since it would be too hard to keep the story in sync with an extra character. But chats etc with her are possible with the save cloe ending. Max could totally be re-introduced though, but it would require some explaination why she isn't together with cloe anymore on the save cloe ending. LiS2 chracters are too disconnected to re-appear though IMO.
The flashback at the trash, if you saved arcadia bay, is wrong. In the "real timeline", Chloe gets shot by Nathan while Rachel is still missed. And after Chloes death, the crimes around Rachels death comes out. It makes no sense that Steph asks "Where is Chloe" when they found Rachel. Chloe was already dead, as they found Rachel. How can the story writers make such a mistake...
@@ameliamangham4460 That makes no sense, Chloe was found in the school toilet and at this timestamp, Rachel was still missing. They found Rachel only because the teacher was get arrested after Chloes death.
Maybe Steph and Mikey hadn't heard about Chloe yet? They weren't in town when it all happened, Rachel was the daughter of the DA and her disappearance was big news for months, the discovery of her body might have reached them first and then they could have found out about Chloe. Hell, considering who shot her Nathan's father might even have initially tried to keep things quiet, Nathan would still be in trouble but the news wouldn't go far beyond the Bay, shielding the Prescott name which was always his main concern. So then it's only later when the much higher profile Rachel is found and Jefferson is exposed word gets out
Steph is so popular now that she surely turns up in another game, maybe not a big part but surely turns up in one. And Chloe and Max are rumored to get another game in the future so if it is true we could see all them in the same game
@@irishguyplays4156 Imagine a gathering of the power users from the Life is Strange games meeting up. Alex tries to save someone using her powers of empathy, fails, Max rewinds, helps Alex approach it slightly differently, and then Alex is able to save them using her empath abilities as she knows they have a weapon or something (think of how she used her powers in the Black Lantern at the end of the game).
After seeing the games over the last few years.. you start realizing that if you picked Chloe you hurt more people ... everyone you loved in one.. you traumatize Steph and Mikey... it’s awesome to think of Chloe and max together but it is super selfish.
@@deadbydaylightmaraWe don't know for certain all those characters died. But the point does still stand. Many people met their deaths in Arcadia Bay if you chose to preserve Chloe.
@@yeni866 Yes, especially for Joyce we learn that in Season 2 (LiS 2). In that game we learn from David (frm. Head of Security of Blackwell) that if the Storm destroyed Arcadia Bay, "his wife and everyone else he knew" (Source: LiS Wiki) were killed, but David hated Chloe and Max for immediate leaving the town. Otherwise he has grief about Chloe but is divorced from Joyce.
"rest in peace chloe. rest in peace rachel." holy shit that hurt. I will always choose chloe over arcadia bay and I wish that there was a way for max to save rachel too. amberpricefield have my whole heart 💜 (so do chengrich 💙)
This one really made the Storm destroying Arcadia Bay ending feel like the canon one, same as in Life is Strange 2 when we get the Chloe and Max and Victoria Easter Egg.
True but both endings are cannon, the developers have said it’s our own choice what we go along with as “our” cannon ending as I picked sacrifice Arcadia bay so my cannon ending is the town being destroyed and Chloe living
I can understand that she has a trauma if we choose sacrifice AB cause her mother is dead and a lot of things. But another ending. Her friends Chloe and Rachel are dead. But the reason of the trauma is not so big I think. Was the sacrifice AB canon ending? I mean it hits more with this ending
They have never canonized an ending, which is good. While Arcadia bay getting wiped by a tornado is decently worse, the death of two good friends and the reveal that a teacher she probably trusted was a murder/pedophile is still pretty traumatizing
@@kendriccoley7053 that’s cold. Chloe’s death is a huge loss to Joyce and David. I go Bae for Joyce. She doesn’t deserve to bury her daughter. That’s a faith worse than death for a parent. She and David divorce afterwards. At least in Bae David now has a loving relationship with Chloe and even Max too. Complete bullshit Nathan only got 3 years for murdering her and helping a cereal killer.
@@chloe-stephlis6281 will going through the game and what chole as character did/does this girl is basically a piece of crap of person, the moment she guilt trip max of her not caring and blaming others isn't helping. So she sucks and im not the type to gloss over the shitty things she's done.
I'm a big fan of the comics the latest issue just came out "Setting Dust" .... and I really hope that eventually Steph and Alex meet up with Chloe and Max
@@TheSuperPsychoKiller The storm is paracausal because both endings are cannon, storm is being used metaphorically. The bad end 'bae' kills most the town, Chloe's mom, Steph's mom, Rachels parents, all your classmates exept victoria (including Kate who you determinately save from suicide), Victoria gets barely saved by David who was kidnaped by Jefferson who also lives. Max, Chloe, Victoria and Steph get ptsd. The good end 'bay' Chloe dies, Steph and most likely Max still gets PTSD.....and thats it.
Damn this hit so hard. Especially the part with Steph and her Mom. That just shattered my heart. It almost makes me regret going Bae over Bay, almost. I’ll always save Chloe but damn does this carry baggage. Poor Steph and Mikey. RIP Steph’s mom; RIP Drew. May you two be happy in Heaven.
well we did save a few people before our final decision Victoria David Alyssa Evan The Trucker, The fisherman Kate marsh then again she may have committed suicide so what happens to kate marsh is up in the air she may have died during the storm or she committed suicide or she may have escaped
@@AlexisStreams yes, I know. The comics even confirm Alyssa made it. Personally, I believe Kate survived the storm. The hospital is hinted at not being directly in town and in the state of Oregon they normally have storm bunkers. Kate was either protected by the hospital or her family got her out of in time. I also read on Reddit that someone said they saw a Q&A where it was stated that Kate made it if she didn’t jump.
She wasn't there but she lost her mother who was. Everyone is Arcadia Bay who wasn't in a bunker or out of its path was killed. I'm pretty certain they would have been off at college as they would've been Chloe's age who was 19 (it says in BTS that she's 18 months older than Max who had recently turned 18 in LIS)
Here you realize that the people who sacrificed an entire town have been selfish, what was the point of saving Kate so they could kill her with the tornado? They have caused a lot of damage, including Steph, They took away her mother and destroyed families just to save Chloe, the problematic, selfish and manipulative girl in the whole game who is not worth a dang, Same girl who was destined to die. Whether she likes it or not, the true ending is to SACRIFICE HER, the tornado was created because of her, everything bad is because of her and if they save her they will ruin Max, they will traumatize her. I chose to SAVE ARCADIA BAY because my Max is mature enough to accept a loss, there is no trauma left and in the end she smiles, however when you go out to Chloe, Max is with a face of concern. Also the ending of saving Chloe was only a request from the fandom, THE REAL ENDING IS TO LET HER GO. Rachel and Chloe are the same, that's why they got along a lot, they were both manipulative and selfish. Many in the fandom say that "Max loves Chloe", "that she prefers Chloe over Warren", blah blah blah, but if Max was so "interested in Chloe", why didn't he look for her in the entire month that Max return to Arcadia again? Easy! Max only came back to Arcadia because of Jefferson! Not because of Chloe, if they had never met in the parking lot, Max would never have contacted Chloe. Shaka brah to you!! Warren and Max forever!!
Drew never took the full ride cuz he was helping their dad remember it's implied that he had the opportunity to go but he even said his main goal was to protect and watch over his brother and help their dad
You know something I wish that there is some other way to save Chloe and arcadia bay but unfortunately that's not how it works so we have no other choice we felt the same way just like max did don't have other choices to stop this tornado I ever pick just the don't save arcadia bay I know it seems bad but there is no way to stop this so I rather stop running from my problems and my mistakes and my past mistakes and face them and reflect them with Chloe I don't think this choice of"don't save arcadia bay" is a bad ending there are no bad endings we I see it I feel like this ending is Canon because of novels from life is strange seems quite canonical if I'm Wrong what is your thoughts of thoses endings from life is strange 1 did Max made the right choice or she regret it.
4:09 Yes it makes sense of your comment... His leg was been hurt by Damon Derrick ,that's wjy he took so longin the hospital..OR..Chloe handover the money to them and then they will move to San Fransisco
@@knighthawke5605incorrect. Max never meets Steph if Chloe lives. However, they probably did if she dies, at her funeral, since we know they were both there.
I will always choose to save Chloe. But it's weird that steph didn't reference max in the save arcadia Bay version. She could of said something like max was in the bathroom too but couldn't do anything because of the gun and that she was choles former best friend
I think the the reason why Steph didn't mention max is because she didn't know who she was. I think she only knew that Chloe had a friend that moved away and that's about it.
Watching this it's seems like the Devs maked the DLC for the saving Chloe ending. The trauma does make more sense for the destruction of Arcadia Bay. And they even made the mistake that Chloe wasn't killed by Jefferson in this ending, that happened only in episode 5. If you save Arcadia she gets shot by Nathan.
My Canon ending will always be *SAVE ARCADIA* and I will sacrifice Chloe a thousand times, the reason is that I love Warren and I will never be able to put him in danger of death or any innocent person for a single person. Rachel dies inevitably, it's sad, I know, I didn't like that Chloe died either, I always wanted an ending that says: 'Save Arcadia and Chloe somehow' but that option doesn't exist... I still don't dare to play this DLC, but I think I will miss Chloe for the moments that I shared with her as a character. I mean, I never liked Chloe until the end, but I liked her jokes. Everything ends and she along with my decisions. Goodbye Chloe 💐.. and Steph gets over the past. *((💙 I will always be team Grahfield ❤))*
I'm sorry but y'all being like "Ohhhh this is so sad! But I still saved Chloe 🥰" is a load of bullshit. I choose not to save Chloe because 1 person's death should NOT be avoided by killing tons of others. And if they don't die, they either lose someone or get years-long trauma. Y'all would not save your Chloe in real life. So screw y'all.
@@BbuyTheStars Only if you saved Chloe. If you saved Bay her fate is unknown and last thing we know about her in that ending is attending funeral. I prefer them to keep it ambiguous.
In my version she's in NYC pursuing her dreams with Chloe. By the sound of the phone call the two might be planning to visit him again soon too. Love that version of David's LiS cameo. It gives us a period and does also complete his character arc of redemption too.
pretty sure it's the guy's voice who's playing because 1. i don't remember hearing that and 2. his name is irishguyplays and i can hear the irish accent LOL
Before the storm takes place in 2010 when Steph is 16, LIS is in 2013 when she's 19 so she would likely have been at college away from Arcadia Bay when it was destroyed
@@Rert thank you for replying. Glad to hear she still has her Dad. I don't know if you've read the comics but the clumsy accident prone girl is confirmed as being alive too. At least this finally proves that more than just those who were in the Dark Room (David, Victoria, and those two cops) survived the storm.
gotta say, the one were Chloe dies is cheesy as fuck, I know they were friends, but no one would give this much of a fuck about a friend in high school like a decade later, I mean, sad when reminiscing , sure, but like on par with a town being blown with your mother, no way. and besides, in BTS you are suppose to wonder if Steph is trying to be your friend or is just using you get closer to Rachel, I mean they could have all become friends after that weekend, but still, super cheesy, and how Can Chloe be such a loner in LIS 1 if she could have just called up Steph any time?
Rachel and Chloe did die some really tragic deaths. I'd say it's probably pretty traumatizing to know about all that, even if you weren't especially close friends/time had passed. Besides it's the anniversary of them finding out about it all so it probably hits harder
@@sydneykingmusic its like the whole sequel thing, sometimes the first movie isn't so good, I can admit that, while everyone else in in denial, so when the sequal comes out I am ready to enjoy the ride, but because those people were in denial before , when it gets so bad they cant lie to themselves any more, they get irrationally angry and always atta k the wrong source, usually prolonging their suffering, when I am already gaining an ironic appreciation for the sequel, happen everyday
@@PhilospherDjPsychologist24 It's Life is Strange. You kind of have to always like it ironically in some capacity lol. I just think it's nice to also be able to find ways to make sense of it
i wouldn't say Steph Used Chloe to get closer to rachel Steph was always planning to make a move on rachel but stopped her self because she saw chloe and rachel were starting to become a thing
@@AlexisStreams you know, I actually have a theory that Steph and Rachel Hooked up before the events of the game, so when she was asking Chloe about Rachel, she isnt seeing if she has a shot, she is seeing if she still has a shot with her. But I have no solid evidence on that, just the way Steph comes off outside the boys dorm
Tbh I always choose to save Chloe. Not because I'm selfish lol, but just because it makes sense in my mind, I mean, even before Max discover her powers, she got the vision of the tornado. So I figured I'd let nature do it's thing, anyway. And also, it's a little bit of hipocrisy to criticize the bae ending, because, honestly, I couldn't choose to sacrifice the only one that I care about the most in the world for a bunch of other people. I'm just not strong enought to give up the love of my life or the person who had my back more than my own family? I couldn't do it and never will, so for one, I like to think that Max and Chloe are living in NYC, having the time of their lives just like David hinted in LiS 2 🦋💙
