Life-Saving Lower League Tactics

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I have ventured farther into the lower leagues than I ever have before, the bottom of the English pyramid, and I have refined my lower leagues system to absolutely wreck the lower leagues with brute force. Football Manager has never seen so many big meaty men. I have long had a tactical philosophy for lower league management in FM, but this has turned it all the way up to 11.
If you are still reading this far and have never tried a lower league, semi-pro, or amateur save in Football Manager I absolutely implore you to do it. It is Football Manager storytelling in its purest form. You have a chance to elevate a club beyond its wildest dreams. What is the point of managin in FM if you can’t make a memory or two along the way.
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@AMPR45 Год назад

The Vanarama? Pfft, that’s the champions league compared to my save in Upper North West Regional Division P where my youth intake is the local primary school and my assistant manager is a chip van.

@mattjames6349 Год назад

That cracked me up! I'm working up through the Swedish lower leagues. My goalkeeping coach when i started was a 22 year old who had played half a dozen matches in his life and had 4 for the goalkeeping coaching attritubes.My actual first choice keeper was one of my few not terrible players. I always wondering what the training sessions being advised by this awful back up keeper were like!

@Cwattyeso Год назад

Vanarama is like the Super League compared to the United Counties League my local team and FM team is currently in.

@TomVerhaegen Год назад

Started in the Isthmian Premier South East Division with Three Bridges FC :)

@Boxinghotspur57 Год назад

Haha reminds me of my manford way town save where we sold 3 season tickets after 4 promotions 😂😂😂

@mattjames6349 Год назад

@@Boxinghotspur57 3? Wow !

@EQ2snorkle Год назад

A trick to get more training pre season as a semi pro team is wait until 3pm or later on a Saturday then schedual a friendly for Sunday. That way you get to train Saturday too. If you make the friendly before that you miss all training Saturday.

@TheFallorn Год назад

I’d love a video about transitioning from this kind of a tactic to something that works in the higher divisions

@MrJagger112 Год назад

I don't really play FM anymore but I'm still sub'ed and love your videos for the energy and knowledge you have for the game :) Awsome stuff!

@Cwattyeso Год назад

For Tactical Familiarity I would think playing 42 matches in the league and another 18 or so across various cups in the real low leagues should be enough to get your players familiar with your Tactic. So the very limited number of training sessions available to these part-time/amateur teams and players I tend to leave to the staff to handle and make sure I’m not going to break the players with too much intensity and stuff.

@nielspanis2 Год назад

If you train on tuesday, thursday and saturday, just put a friendly against a nearby team on wednesday for the reserves to catch up some sharpness and tactical familiarity. The training on both week days, 1 teamwork, 1 match tactics, 1 defensive shape, 1 attacking movement. When they complain, 2 weeks of overall + Team cohesion. Tadah

@Cwattyeso Год назад

@@nielspanis2 sadly isn’t possible for my team and league. We play matches every Saturday and Tuesday through the Season and the only day available for Training is Thursday with all other days unavailable. On a Thursday we can only run two sessions as well as the Extra Session is always greyed out and unavailable.

@nielspanis2 Год назад

@@Cwattyeso 2 Times a week, my respects. I hope they still live after a year. Good luck

@ChrisWade Год назад

My 8th tier save with St Neots was going so well... Was expected to fight avoid relegation. By mid December I was top of the league, 5 points clear. I have no idea what happened and all of a sudden in 6 games I lost 3, drew 2 and won 1. Searched everywhere for something to save my title hopes! Found this and went 1-0 up within 5 mins and 65 mins 2-0 up, I was buzzing... Then a player got sent off and all of a sudden, by the 85th minute we concede a penalty and I'm now 4-2 down, raging and no idea where my season has gone wrong. I hate thia god damn game

@tidyyy Год назад

been using this tactic on FM21 (y'know, before defensive was cool) and can confirm it's really good (step 13 to championship). would recommend using super quick false 9s as the two wide forwards with "stay wider" ticked. false 9s have been the best ball carriers i've found, help out defensively and still get in the box. also, set the battering ram in the middle to a poacher so he's always on the last shoulder. had some success with DLF(att) and pressing forwards(sup/def) in the middle too but often they're not on the end of things enough. yet to properly test an advanced forward but that might be the switch moving into the prem. also, make a 2nd tactic and throw a cb up top in a gung-ho 4-2-4 👌

@tomvillis159 Год назад

I live right next to Taunton, that's insane! Thanks for all the tips and videos, always a massive help!

@JBDGaming Год назад

If only we had the stadium that is shown in the game lol

@evertvandenberghe3301 Год назад

Mark Beck , Darlington as targetman. This guy will get you to league 2 with 2 back to back promotions. 19 jump reach , 16 heading & 12 finishing. He's a (lower league) beast!

@Saltiren Год назад

I tried to sign him but he won't come to my team. We are 10k in debt and the board capped our wages at $25/week. What do I do now? I'm in level 10.

@evertvandenberghe3301 Год назад

@@Saltiren If you cant afford Beck, then you certainly cant afford the one that fills Becks shoes: Muhammadu Faal. So find your own , search players with 12+ jump reach & finishing , preferable have some stats in first touch/passing too. Invite all the young players to your club for an internship of a few weeks , pick the best 1-2 & offer em a contract!

@Saltiren Год назад

@@evertvandenberghe3301 Thank you! :D

@muhammadikhsanfadli2238 Год назад

confirmed. my darllington save legend.

@evertvandenberghe3301 Год назад

@@muhammadikhsanfadli2238 Small update about Beck in my save. I m gonna have to let him go after this season, but he helped me get my 3rd promo in 3 years. Scored 20 goals in the League 2, giving him a total (as topscorer off Darlington) 103 goals in 3 seasons. Sadly he doesnt wanna stay as trainer :(

@anardi7112 Год назад

I never Nick McCouty since getting my trimmer from Manscaped.

@an0gr0br Год назад

I kind of lucked into this same basic approach, but in a 4-4-2 to get out of the VNS with St. Albans in one season. Great breakdown. Cool to see why it worked!

@an0gr0br Год назад

I also signed Max Thompson before watching this video for the exact reasons you mentioned. I feel vindicated 😂

@TomVerhaegen Год назад

Thing I do is overload my pre-season with 6 to 9 games to get them tactical familiar with what I want to see. Rest of the season we do some overall, quickness and set piece training. When we got 3 matches a week (I'm in tier 8 and still active in FA Cup (4th qualifying round, FA Trophy 3rd Qualifying round and Isthmian League Cup 1st round) we get a congested fixture list. Then I put in recovery training sessions (you need physio for it) followed by teamwork or team bonding session. So far it works we had 2 draws 11 wins cups and league combined before getting a first defeat of the season.

@TheSilentScreamX Год назад

I'm playing a game with AFC Telford. It's going well, but the biggest problem with most tactics people play is that they're all max intensity and lower league teams just don't have the squad depth/fitness to handle that.

@dannyl8994 Год назад

Find free transfers for players that are between 18-21 years old. A lot of them will sign non-contracts so if they don’t play then you don’t use wages and can save money. Great way to add depth. I’ve done it with Taunton and I’m top of the league in my first year with some players on appearance fees as low as £20p/w

@yellowscarlightningscream8347 Год назад

Bro, just go 4-3-3 gegenpress. This is the holy grail of all tactics

@evertvandenberghe3301 Год назад

I always throw my cup games if i want to go for leaguechampion so i have less matches to play ;)

@fsdafdsafdas Год назад

Looks super fun!!! Can't believe FM made a game that allows the low block again!!!

@farrellyb Год назад

Thanks Z - nice to have a new tips video! Any chance of a new/updated one on scouting for FM23 especially on how to get the best out of recruitment focuses etc.

@Trequinho Год назад

Lower league tactics don't always look like this 😩. I've been using a treq, libero, SV and regista and managed to over perform in the 9th tier of England 🤘

@sanderlarsen2947 Год назад

cap

@Trequinho Год назад

@@sanderlarsen2947 who me ?

@pablosanchez5909 Год назад

fail

@BRossgoated Год назад

I needed this

@James-sv6to Год назад

I love that you used Taunton Town, they are who I picked to go from Vanarama to Prem.

@gbray1616 Год назад

If anyone is looking for a slightly different formation that is similar but more attacking. I play 343 with PF/AF/PF all on attack, midfield of def. Winger/DLP/B2B/ def. Winger all on support, and then defense of WCB/CD Cover/WCB both Wide CB are set to Defend with a SK on support :)

@robvermeer5951 Год назад

It also works for older versions of FM. But be aware then that your defence line is not lower than standard other wise your facing a lot of goals from distance.

@chepachem8351 Год назад

Following your footsteps and doing a save with oriental dragon. So much fun.

@neilproctor5163 Год назад

I'm Bermondsey Town in the Southern Counties East Division One (Level 10). My tactic is super simple for the same reason you highlighted - I play a 4-4-2, pass into space, regroup, counter, medium press and stay on feet! That's it ... I don't complicate things and it works! I do add various instructions during the match, but even those are used sparingly!

@bossman5141 Год назад

Great beer mile at Bermondsey

@hiddentreasure2161 Год назад

Although the tactic seems like it does well, it's probably having players with the important attributes for the lower leagues doing most of the work here. You can tell your team to play tiki-taka possession football and absolutely dominate the league. I always struggle to get immersed into the lower leagues because there's just no simulation for the fact that teams relying on non-contract players should not be able to pull-off prime Barcelona total football. You can't play like that irl even as high up as the Championship (see Reading under Jaap Stam, 2018).

@alexanderhamilton8461 Год назад

For what it's worth Notts County and Barrow have proven you can play fast-paced posession football in non-leagues.

@tirke_ Год назад

I was played with wrexham and was brutal with gegenpress,i broke all records 😂,first on a scoresheet with 78 goals was my pressing forward Paul Mullin

@bettmo7494 Год назад

wrexham has a league one team. They are so fun to b2b promotions.

@ashwilliams4959 Год назад

I think personality and age is key for lower leagues. I always play as plymouth or torquay, and look to offload negative mentalities and bring in determined or professional and make sure there's a couple players 30+ . Can usually get back to back promotions with same quality players, got to prem with league 1 level players

@MarkWright-sq7gj Год назад

This tactic is working for me in the 8th tier. I supplement it with similar structure tactics from FM Arena, Cross Fixed SP and ZaZ Earth 2.0 with wingers.

@MarkWright-sq7gj Год назад

With Didcot Town

@Mentalmatt14 Год назад

Meanwhile all I ever do for tactics is select vertical tiki taka, select 4231 & change roles. Only tactic I ever use & works great every time in every game regardless of what team I’m managing. Game does majority of the work for you.

@mc14211 Год назад

Each to their own!

@PvtVallen Год назад

This, even in non league you just run an attacking maximum intensity gegenpress 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 and slaughter everyone.

@SimersFM Год назад

Because game is incredibly easy as single player

@Priority76 Год назад

@@SimersFM I wish. Totally struggling with a loser team here.

@cockspur2492 Год назад

Can you elaborate? Change roles to what, players best role etc?

@almond5051 Год назад

I hope Zealand gets back on a consistant upload schedule 😔

@liviumarila5200 Год назад

2:19 Even if you're not professional, like I am with Chesthunt (same league as Z) I got it maxed out apart from position / role / duty because I sue a couple of players outside their "best" role. I'm 6 games in the 2nd season but I dunno how far back I achieved the 100% familiarity, so it's not about professional status; even training 2 days a week gets you there :)

@mrbismarck Год назад

Manscaped has a tactic for lower level ball possession.

@bersocs2 5 дней назад

@308473mb Год назад

Set one of those strikers to play as a deep-lying forward and tada, you got Louis van Gaal's Dutch setup. I don't know how to feel about this, but it is what it is.

@blueflagcfc Год назад

I was struggling with away form, though my young team is in the play off places, changed to this tactic won 3-0 never looked like conceding you hirsute hero you.

@jordylont1879 Год назад

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@markwalter4838 Год назад

I've been running a 433 since Championship Manager 21. The game has never been able to handle 3 strikers. I'm shocked its taken Zealand this long to do it. The very negative 7 at the back isn't needed.

@arjunsatheesh7609 Год назад

This tactic sounds like the last 15 minutes of the normal 90 played by Netherlands against Argentina a few days ago in their RO16 match of WC2022. Not knocking the Hollanders, it just reminded me of the tall forwards who came on as late subs and then the early crosses and aerial ball winning which eventually made a goal and then a creative free kick for the second. That creative free kick will probably not happen in the lower leagues though.

@jonathana6943 Год назад

Weghorst and Luuk de jong

@arjunsatheesh7609 Год назад

@@jonathana6943 Yep Weghorst especially.

@39laving Год назад

I use a different formation, but I'm trying to do the same thing. Using three forwards has been gold since FM20. Now, I'm setting up for a way more attacking flat and narrow 4-3-3. But the idea is the same. Long balls, pass to space, early crosses. Basically, bomb the ball up as fast as possible. I will let some goals in, but I'm scoring an average of 3 goals per game - on all levels in all countries.

@gabefry4974 Год назад

Thank you for making this. Had a lot of success in lower league saves using something similar. When would you recommend moving away from this tactic? Is your older video that had a four four two diamond (sorta) still valid in FM 23?

@mrbeere8930 Год назад

After the first season you have to loan or buy Kyle Hudlin. Aim all your free kicks and corners at him. Height 206cm or 6 foot 9. Finishing 12 Heading 12 Good mental stats for lower leagues. Jumping reach 20 Strength 12 Pace only 9 but that's not what you pick him for. An absolute legend in the lower leagues highly recommended.

@RO_117 Год назад

Signed him for 3K and he broke multiple record sin his first full season 🤑

@Abdanw00 Год назад

Moussa Fall scored 72 goals for me 85% are headers similar profile to Kyle.

@mrbeere8930 Год назад

@@Abdanw00 Who does he play for I might have to try and get both on my next game

@Abdanw00 Год назад

@@mrbeere8930 Generation Foot in Senegal he is around 100-200k i don’t know your budget but if you can afford him buy him.

@corneliuspraeda6452 Год назад

Kyle @#$%ing Hudlin didn't even wanna come to my team on loan!! And my scouts won't stop splashing "A+, sign this dude whatever the cost!" just to rub it in!!lol

@FaxxuYT Год назад

you have uploaded this at the PERFECT time. I'm literally about to be fired from Dartford LMAO

@KrixoniusPlays Год назад

You my friend are a master, like joda or Mr mehaghi. I just DEstroyyyyed a serie a team with a bunch of 'pesnuts' that expect to be relegated end season is serie b.

@maxlivingstone9087 Год назад

Fav youtuber.

@jodenmintoor Год назад

That yb type beat over the manscape ad goes so hard 😭😭😭😭

@claudej8338 Год назад

hey there Z, why is the right defender a CD, an not an NCD? Love your "in physical form" series at Taunton, by the way. Cheers

@rolliegaming7612 Год назад

Love the fact you picked a mighty sky blue player

@toby3695 Год назад

Oh lawd it's an FM23 video!

@JundraGaming Год назад

what tactic do you recommend when no tactic works? my players absolutely suck no matter what I do... this tactic worked pretty good for a couple games and then my team implodes :(

@nyykSIUUU Год назад

This comes at the right time, I‘m fighting for my life in the third northern irish division with Portstewart

@DanimaldAnimal85 Год назад

Nice place

@44Millen Год назад

I found in the vanarama national after promotion CB's need high strength and jumping reach over anything else. I was being bullied to a mid table finish. now I have Goal difference of 60! constantly winning by 3 or more in the 3rd season. (eat that wrexham with your hollywood budget. Enjoy the playoffs again!) Just need to be a full time club. sky bet div 2 is gonna be hard.

@leni3937 Год назад

I use the same tactic for every team I played for now, 4-3-3 (4-1-2-2-1) full gegenpress on cautious and it's a slaughter. I tried a lot of team in low rep european countries, in Romania I managed to win the cup and win the 2nd division the first year with the worst team of the league... Even made groupe stage in Conference ( because of my Cup win), beating Molde on the way who were far better than my team ! For experiment, I got back on the days prior to the Molde game and run it 5 times to see the odds, won 3 draw 1 lost 1. I tried that in Finland, Latvia, Hungary, and many others... And since the fix on defenders, I take less and less goals. I don't know what to say after more than 300 hours, the game feels good to play but the ME is making me crazy sometimes, I like the chaos but some "out of nowhere" stuffs are making me feels something is missing for now, hope to see some additional fix in the future.

@jonasemborg177 Год назад

I found Marcus Dackers wo is a little more expensive 200kUSD for me. . Guy scored 48 league goals, 6'7, 205 pounds, and 20 jump reac. I alread tried to implement it!

@spacepegasus376 Год назад

Probably a dumb question but in your out of possession instruction I see you have stuff like mid block and drop off more. And I can't find where I add that instruction

@godseye13k Год назад

4 3 3 works fine. 1 Dm 2 cm 1 bbm 1 cm on att. Only the 4231 causes this a problem in that case u just put 2 dm and 1 cm and your sorted. Thanks for the content cant wait for The Peacock's to make a long awaited return.

@kevintheman4408 Год назад

THIS IS WWWK WHEN WE WERE KINGS PODCAST INTRO BIG UP ERIK NIVA LYSNA PÅ PODCASTEN OM DU ÄR SVENSK

@samuelrowark4519 Год назад

This is very funny as it's basically Wycombe Wanderers in real life

@welshwizzard8209 Год назад

keep it simple in the lower leagues, simple 4-2-3-1 in the Welsh Premier works for me with not many instructions

@darkkeijp Год назад

I got through all lower divisions by hoofballing it to 6'5 Luca Wollschläger.

@Niffer016 Год назад

Did everything like here. Losing every game since then.

@destoc5661 Год назад

FM22, Journeyman. No wonder my Tactical Familiarity never reach full.

@pjootr5769 3 месяца назад

tactic in lower league is funny sometimes, I set TI to distribute to flanks and throw it long, i watched most of my games and my gk always kicking in middle no matter if someone is there or not

@bentarbuck6161 Год назад

im in the 10th level of english fooball at ashton town. im struggling to get a tactic that works. i feel like ive tried everything. is this available to download anywhere? im playing on gamepass so steam is no good

@whosTreq Год назад

Tried this tactic with Mansfield in FM20, got absolutely smashed lmao

@Tubbs1991 Год назад

My eyes, the kit numbers. It’s like something from Serie A 😂😩

@corneliuspraeda6452 Год назад

I started with this, this just now tweaked it to run a 6-1-3. Basically the same premise, just 4 at the back instead of 3. It's still the same suggested personnel, just fewer dudes in the middle. Am I asking for trouble? In general, I love this kind of simplified formation. At the minute, my defense is ok, but I still can't score much.

@adamh4h4 Год назад

You answered your own question. You're screwing yourself offensively. Not enough supporting the attack.

@AnirudhShenoyTheOptimist Год назад

A lower league Antonio Conte system 👀

@thargoff Год назад

McCooooooooooootiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee!

@LordWay Год назад

I love a save in the vanarama south

@harrytmm Год назад

dear zealand, can you put a link to your tactic in the description, that would be very helpful, thank you

@lukaszparalusz3365 Год назад

yes this would help a lot as I am not playing on Steam

@javorgeorgiev6130 Год назад

Bodies do matter, but I noticed defense in lower league, despite physical stats, is still terrible. I had 3 big defenders stare blankly at a floated header that went inside my net headed by a small winger playing as AF with 4 heading and 5 finishing. Volume of chances triumphs. Eventually their defense will make a terrible mistake and their clears will most often find nothing, and when they do find a forward they will fail their dribble most likely. If you can find one decent target man, go for it and unload those floated crosses relentlessly. When the ball goes high it neither needs to be as accurate, nor does off the ball mean much. They all know where it's going, but only the strongest can get to it first. Lower league clears from defense are so bad it creates some of your best chances to score as you regain the ball right in front of their box. A back 5 does well, but I think it's because of the extra large body for set peaces. There will be a lot on either side. Fouls non stop. In a league with no mentals and zero composure the best thing is to lose the ball towards the enemy goal ASAP.

@Garryabblett791 Год назад

How would you tweak this tactic for the premier league?

@hanshintermoser9008 Год назад

I am now interested how this works in the premier league /Champions League😂

@finding_aether Год назад

433 with 3 trequartista upfront doesn't work?

@chomperboy7092 8 месяцев назад

Is there no player instructions?

@fernandodeassis5594 10 месяцев назад

I'm curious on how would this tactic perform in an elite Club, like chelsea or Man Utd

@itslloyd123 Год назад

Worthing is my hometown!

@samuelroberts7959 5 месяцев назад

Would this work on fm 24 in bundesliga 3?

@GiancarloGarcia Год назад

My fav moments in your vids is getting sucked into a line and you turn it into an ad. Not sarcasm.

@smokeyandtheassbandit Год назад

My lower league play a 433 2 target forwards and a advanced striker if they miss with the head my AF sweeps up

@thibautnarme6402 Год назад

What's up with the jersey number? (I haven't followed the new stream)

@maxwilliams1060 Год назад

Playing as Eastleigh, don't know what the hell I'm doing wrong but I'm getting battered trying this tactic. I just lost 8-3, 75% of the season through...I'm not too sure on this one big guy XD

@AFord1981 Год назад

Started in the 13th tier - the 3rd level of Liverpool amateur football.

@alangresty2435 Год назад

Can this tactics be download into my save ?

@theclimbto1 Год назад

Harrison Nee? Naw, that young man is HAIR-i-son Nee!

@PillowRic Год назад

how do i download the tactic when i do not own steam?

@dgrblue4162 Год назад

Is this the "hot tactic" for this version?

@Hanqy Год назад

omg i can't bear the manscape ads 🤣

@user-vj6yg9ln7s Год назад

Is there any player instructions?

@dervin09 Год назад

Think this would work with FM22?

@billstein2 Год назад

Dude... This is almost unfair. I paired this with the level 11 mod, and took the Kintbury Rangers. With some dropping of lower skilled players, and some decent recruiting (if I say so myself), I'm now 24 goals for, 2 against, after 4 friendlies... Those two against were scored by my under 21 squad in the first friendly the 2nd day of the preseason, using a similar tactic.

@notouriosdja Год назад

narrow 433 gegenpress is another way to get out of that league, any tactic with 3 strikers will do it

@christiannusser9976 7 месяцев назад

"You click-baiting monster!!!" LOL

@miguelmartin-pozuelo611 Год назад

Love the lower league shame wizard

@kevinsinger8325 6 месяцев назад

tried your formation 3-0 up 1 striker sent off lost on pens play with dumbarton but only my 2nd game

@dgrblue4162 Год назад

I have seen a bunch of AI using a version of 7 at the back. Is there something I am missing?

@lucaspereiramartins1485 Год назад

I'm surprised. I was expecting some kind of Sean Dyche no nonsense route one 4-4-2 cross and inshallah and I was blown away. A tactical masterclass, as usual.

@4n5h327 7 месяцев назад

insha'Allah is crazy ☠️

@drstevebrule69420 Год назад

this tactic would work great if my aim was to get out shot 10-1 consistently

@Mackss-bk5ku 11 месяцев назад

the downbload has the left striker as tf not pf

@nert-13 Год назад

I called the number. Generic sales calls

@MullerEkart Год назад

go high tempo ,high press ,much more often closing down,tight marking on all of your players and enjoy.I accept tips.Unfortunately still a plug an play

@oliverjohnson9660 Год назад

i have copied this tactic because i’m in desperate need of help. long story short i’m playing as grimsby town in league 2 and the start of the season went extremely well as we were in promotion spots then we finished 18th because we suddenly turned shite. start of second season i’m still losing despite bringing in better players

@yellowscarlightningscream8347 Год назад

4-3-3 Gegenpress is still OP in lower league