Lifters!!! Cheap vs. Quality - What You Need to Know! 

I’ve only used GMPP lifters and factory trays in my engine builds and have never had a problem

Funny, I did the opposite and placed GM Race Lifter with mild torque cam that never revs over 6k. Good info and right on information

Thank You For Your Help On My Build !!!

That’s why I only shop GPI. They help you threw your build and are very knowledgeable. You can’t beat great service.

Was just talked into buying a set of the Johnson 2110s. Dang things weren't cheap, so thanks for the affirmation!

Had a 2110 fail 2 days after they went in, and now it looks like a couple more are on the way out.

I chose the factory ls7 lifters that came with GPI cam kit 3 years ago. And after 3 years they failed.

I think it’s worth noting that genuine GM lifter trays should be used to keep the lifters square on the lobes. I bet when people are buying cheap lifters they are also getting knockoff trays that allow the lifters to spin on the lobes causing the damage you pointed out.

I noticed you guys sell various cam motion lifters. Are the "OEM" cam motion lifters rebranded ls7 lifters?

Any opinions on EngineTech flat hydraulic lifters for GM V8’s?

Question on what is considered high lift and high spring pressures? I am looking at 6500 rpms, .375 of cam lift and open spring pressure of 400#s.

Thanks. Rethought it. Got the 2110r instead

Can you make a video on hemi 6.1 lifters

I’ve got LS7s in my 408. I wish I would have known about the Johnsons when I built it! Mine are ok, but noisy. I think I’m going to go with.100 preload and see if they shut up.

After seeing 3 engines have multiple lifter failures in my friend group with genuine LS7 lifters I will not be buying anything LS7. I have a set of the Johnson 2110s going in my 6.2. Thanks for the info.

Just bought me a set of 2110r Johnson’s! So excited that I’ve got good quality now. My 408 stroker build was almost trashed because the guy who built it put some cheap ass Delphi ls7 lifters in it. One completely grinded itself on my cam and now I’m thousands in on my build bc of one cheap ass mistake

what should i get for a 96 lt1? i want either the lt4 hotcam , or comp cam 503, the engine is all stock

Any opinions on Melling vs Sealed power for a 94 dodge stealth?

Good to know. I went with the caddy race lifters to go with GPI stage III cam and Circle D stall. Yes, they cost a little more.

What does the short travel ones do?

Just found #5 intake sticky -calling in for a set of Johnsons ,11 to 1 Motor been on shake down since hope this is my last week link ,and ive herd some Horror Stories ~! Thank You ~!

Chose LS7 lifters for my SS2 VVT . FBO. Currently being installed. Went with all these parts : · Accell Extreme 9000 LS Ceramic White Plug Wires · ARP Head Bolts · ARP Exhaust Manifold Bolts · ARP Crank Bolt · BMR Poly Engine Mounts (Hammertone/Red) · BTR .660 Valve Springs Kit · CHE LS Trunnion Kit · Cometic .040 MLS Head Gaskets · Delphi LS7 Lifters (16) · Dexcool Orange Coolant (3Gal not pictured) · Gates K060854 Serpentine Belt · GM 41-110 Spark Plugs (inspected and all within tooner specs) · GM AC Belt · GM Intake Manifold Gaskets · GM LS2 Timing Chain Damper · GM LS3 Valley Cover + Bolts · GM Lifter Trays (4) · GM MLS Exhaust Manifold Gaskets · GM Timing Cover Gasket · GM Timing Cover Seal · GM Valve Cover Gaskets (2) · GM Water Pump Gaskets (2) · GM VVT Sprocket Bolt · GPI SS2 VVT Cam · GPI 7.400 Pushrods · GPI VVT Phaser Kit · Hinson C5.R Timing Chain · ICT Billet Cam Retainer Plate + Bolts · Melling Oil Pump 10355

I currently have a problem with a lifter in a 5.7 Vortec I got from NUTECH by ATK, NO oil coming up through the #6 exhaust valve lifter causing the # 6 exhaust valve push rod to bend and the valve to seize open, they are sending me a new head and told me to replace all the lifters even though the other ones don't look damage, from the pictures I sent them. To me they look like they have more wear than the 82 miles I put on them. but they say they look good but told me to go ahead and replace them anyways..? Anyways my question is, because the lifters that are in there now don't have those lines and the roller is actually wide like your good one there but, what is your opinion on reliable lifter for a 5.7 Vortec? Thanks.

Say I wanna use your SS3 cam on my 2018 1LE camaro, do I need to change the lifters or the factory one should be ok? My car has 12k miles.

Good info! I bought the Johnson 2116LSRs because I beat the absolute hell out of my engine. Probably way overkill for the 7000 rpm I'm turning though.

Can I use 7.400" Chromoly Pushrods, 5/16" x .080" wall with the caddy performance lifters?

Can I use the LS7 lifters with your SS3 cam???

Would I be able to combine the Johnson Lifters (2110R) with a Stage 3 cammed GMC Sierra for daily driver and some street/track fun? Don’t want to end up with lifter failure in the future..

I need 8 tappets for a 30 yo diesel engine (Westerbeke) but none can be found. Are there businesses that could/would make them for a relatively reasonable cost?

Good info, I just picked up the LS7 lifters a few weeks ago. Wish I knew about the upgraded LS7 with the bow tie. Are they for the LT1 GEN 5 engine or just the GEN III and IV engine.

Im curious about potential knock off johnsosn or morels

What about the melling lifters ?

Are Delphi ls7 good for stage 4?

If I run 60 thou and 80 thou preload on oem ls7s but suspecting either lifter bleed down or valve float, any recommendations for lifter or pushrod change? Was going to go 2110rs and remeasure, little 227/239 cam, nothing crazy. Anything past 6500 it goes nuts.

What lifters came out in a genuine L77 and are they crap,im not talking about high rpm or racing just everyday easy driving

i am sold on your video i will use Johnson lifters on my Pontiac

I just had a ls7 lifter fail. Broke the roller in half and trashed everything.

Thanks man

Our local Chevrolet dealership currently has four vehicles with less than 30k miles with factory ls engines with catastrophic engine failure due to factory [sourced] lifters.

Good vid rhino!

Which oil pump do you recommend with LS axle oiling lifters to restore oem-type oil pressure without starving a wet sump oil pickup? Melling 10295?

Do you have to preload lifters I purchased the gm performance caddy lifters

so, ive had 3 different L31 engines that have all had the same issue, noisy lifter, bleed down too fast and clatter upon startup.. Latest engine has been the worst, all 3 were comp camshafts, and every single one had the worst constant noise on the #2 bank, usual 4 or #6 cylinder. Seems to be a common issue but comp and many other manufacturers cant give me a reason why this occurs.. Usually its "its just part of the territory with roller cams".. Even the new 383 i have the builder says the same.. The last 383 I built i used lunati lifters and had zero issues.. Any suggestions?? Its just a street 470hp 383 sbc.. At this point im super frustrated,..

I got tired with garbage lifters and went to Johnson lifters since then I have not had a issue but before I was using other name lifters with their cams and on the flat tappet deal was going through cam and lifters on break in and have never had a cam break in issue but then it become a every single time issue.

Are Crower solid roller lifters any good?

A friend has a set of used Morel 7717 lifters with less then 1000k miles at a very cheap to me price. My questions are will this lifter work in a 2004 5.3l with a Texas Speed stage 2 low lift cam (not installed yet), Pros and cons please.

Why didnt you put roller in the title?

what the hell is a Johnson twennyonetane?

I was under the impression that Morel 6504 / 5315 lifters were a step up form LS7 lifters but maybe I was mistaken? If nothing else, the Morel lifters have a floating axle with lock ring and it seems like they have a taller machined surface that contacts the lifter bore. Both should be better for a cam with a smaller base circle.

What is the best lifter i can use in your opinion when doing the dod lifter delete.

Hell yea. Straight the F up. I like that.

man i just bought a 2014 ss with the 6.2 ls3 , and the lifters are so damn loud in it, it has a btr stage 2 cam and headers and cold air and all that but the damn lifters just make the car almost embarrassing to drive it so loud , my wife got me the camaro so i really wonna love the car but with damn ticking is just keeping that from happening. can you tell me the best lifter to use with the stage 2 cam to quiet this thing down so i can enjoy it without feeling like im driving a half dozen singer sewing machines around?? preferably without having to do alot of rod changing and such.

There are a ton of "ls7" lifters for sale on ebay for 89.99. That would be my bet.

Will the LS7 lifters be good enough for your SS1 vvt cam? Because I bought your SS1 vvt cam and bought the LS7 lifters, and the cam is 637 lift

Where do you buy good quality lifters I was thinking on getting morel lifters of Michigan motor sport but people say it’s china

I installed the Morel 5321 hyd roller lifter and I consider them a great fishing weight or if your trying to wake the dead. Noisy as hell, rattle like a steel bucket with bolts in it. Always get comments from other guys when they hear my engine and ask "is everything OK in there". Dont buy the Morel rubbish.

Morel drop ins are now part #7717 for anybody shopping. Theyre supposed to have upgraded internals over the 6504s

Elgin makes a good ls lifter made in 🇺🇸

So according to Morel. Their lifter stated in this video has a travel of 0.120. Not 0.200. Also the "caddy" lifters require a smaller preload as they are short travel, so no, using the same pushrod as the LS7 style is not ok as it will over preload the lifters. They require shorter pushrods due to the less amount of plunger travel internally. Just a few points of misinformation i noticed.

How many noisy Morel lifters have you guys had?

will the morel lifter be safe running up to 7500rpms or so?

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The china buckets are bad to..seen new lifters loose in them...

Why wouldn’t you tell people to avoid morels if you know there are issues? I’m so fuckin tired of trying to find lifters that aren’t shit without spending $900. I got Delphi’s from Texas speed for a stock rebuild I’m working on for a friend. Gonna need some for a stage 1 tsp 6.2 for mine. I was considering morel.

Invest once, don't buy twice... Low prices are not tempting to me, they are a red flag warning.

Whatever lifter you buy do not buy the Morel hyd rollers. You'd be better off with cheap ebay Chinese knock-off's. I bought a set of Morels and they have total rubbish. Noisy as hell, nobody want to own up to an issues and there's always a new excuse for the noise. After I started having issues I google'd "Morel noisy" and there's a lot of people having these problems. Bad quality to simply not working, noise all sorts of problems. I've tries all sorts of oils, all sorts of preloads, checked valve spring pressures. I've had the rocker covers off so many times I've lost count. Do yourself a favor and dont buy Morels, get some quality made in the USA lifters with a good track record. Morel is rubbish.

Its called ebay my friend and they really suck!

Love it making a high rpm motor then trying to save a little on a peace of shit lifter

Umm...umm...ummm! Wtf...umm..umm

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Ls7s are junk!