Lightroom is a software I got used to for years. Maybe there's a point to move to Capture One. But Darktable is too raw itself with extremely uncomfortable usability ;)
Just look on youtube, there are tons of videos on C1. I switched to C1 early this year, I probably never switch back, C1 is simply better, but it has its learning curve, thus a lot of tutorial watching is required.
@@janric06 how do you feel about library management? I can probably deal with the learning curve but I'm worried about how to manage my library especially with LR CC giving me cloud storage.
@@alvinpatrick About cloud storage, I cannot really tell. My upload is so bad, it would take over a month to get it there. I use locally a NAS, and USB drives. About library, it took a while but now I love the C1 style. You can create catalogs, which is kind of the ones from LR. But in addition to that you have sessions. The difference, well, imagine the session like a catalog, but self contained. You have a folder for imported photos, then you can go through them, correct them, and you can select them (moves the photo to another subfolder "selected") or delete them (more photo to a "session trash" subfolder). Then you can generate your outputs ("output" subfolder, with more subdirectories as you please, the output recipes define all that). My way of working is that at home, I use a main catalog. But away (on laptop) I use sessions. I can already start working on photos, select/delete, tag... everything. Then at home I can simply import the session(s) into my main catalog. And if I took care to have the same dictionary of tags on my laptop and home computer, I even keep tags. It is such an efficient way to work. It takes time to understand, and to know how you want to work, but it is highly configurable and very powerful. After watching several lesson videos, and playing around I really got to love it. As for the cloud, you'd probably need to check for dropbox or similar.
I changed in 2015 from LR to C1 and I have never regretted it with my Canon and my Fuji since C12. It took me 6 months of apprenticeship and a few webinars at Capture One to master the software. Thank you pal2tech for your videos.
You should try other settings for sharpening: Amount = 80-125 Radius = 0.7-1.0 Detail = 0-10 Masking = to your needs/likings I made a preset with that settings so it speeds up the all things. And results are very close if not the same as Capture One. But I am not a pixel peeper... I am too trying Capture One this days. I like it a lot, but not sure yet if I will switch. Differences aren’t that big in picture quality, it’s different, but not necessarily better or worse IMO... 😉 And people are too obsessed with sharpening, it’s ridiculous this days... 🙃
This is the best answer that I’ve found. I love my new XT4, but as someone who edits on Lightroom mobile on an iPad Pro, it was super disappointing to find out how poorly Lightroom handles the RAW files. I can import them on mobile, and edit them, but the JPEG version looks so much better. I guess I’m stuck shooting in JPEG for the time being. As a new Fuji user, thanks for all your tutorials. I’ve learned so much.
Your explanations are always succinct and on the money. I really appreciate that you design these Fast Friday videos with a great deal of respect for people's time! Thank you!
I'd love to see a full workflow video that goes through your lightroom settings, import settings, and how you process your files normally (sharpening, etc). The fuji files process a bit differently than my Canon files. Example: setting daylight white balance in lightroom is always a bit green now.
I went for the Iridient transformer method as I've been used to the software for a few years now and with the additional editing in PS too. I do agree, captureone is superior and you get all the info from the raw photo. Keep up the Fuji vids! They're fantastic and full of useful information. I always refer to them whenever I'm trying to work out what to do with my XT-3!
@pal2tech - I am new to both FujiFilm cameras and Capture One. Your videos have been an irreplaceable resource for me to help me use each to their fullest potential. I am still learning, so keep the great videos coming!
Yes please for Capture One tutorials and techniques! I ditched all Adobe and switched to Capture One and Affinity Photo 2 years ago and am very happy with the results of my Fuji X-t3 Raw file post-processing in Capture One.
Yes, as a longtime Nikon shooter/Lightroom user I recently made the switch to Capture One when I moved to my current Fuji system. I would say that I still give a slight (very slight) nod to Lightroom in regards to asset management, but a lot of that is just learning curve and slight tweaks to my workflow. Otherwise, I love it! The control I have over colors is crazy and it seems to get better with each version not to mention how well it handles my Fuji raws.
Great. I’m happy to hear that. So I’m waiting to follow your tutorial on capture one. I’m sure your videos will better than others since your tutorials on Fujifilm system is the best in RU-vid I believe.
If C1 offered a way to organize images, I might consider making the move. However, I found that the differences that C1 makes over LR, aren't significant. I recently tried Irident X-Transformer, and it does a great job of sharpening Fuji RAF files (if you are interested in improving sharpness). I tried an edit using all three methods, LR Enhanced, C1 and Irident, and the file sizes went like this: LR Enhanced= 120MB, C1=25MB, Irident= 71MB. Images were shot with a Fuji X-T2. Even though I don't use the full Adobe subscription photo Apps (98% LR), I like being able to access PS when heavy editing is desired. C1 costs the same as Adobe Creative Cloud.
Michael Schmitt Try an image with foliage. C1 wins way over LR. But the workflow in C1 is terrible! I end up going back to LR after rendering the RAW files just for organizing.
Just discovered this channel and its a gold mine. Precise and useful information delivered in shirt videos from a really knowledgeable perso. Cheers from Tahiti keep it up
Thanks for another excellent video. I am a long-time LR user and Fuji user for about 10 years now. I've never been too fussed about this issue even though it's been well publicized for a while now. After our last big trip, to Australia, I passed my Fuji RAF files through DxO first before processing in LR Classic - essentially doing a Pure Raw. One issue with this, for my workflow, is normally I process all my photos through LR Mobile allowing me to cull the images and do some initial editing and posting a few online and to friends. Why I have DxO as well as Adobe? An offshoot of having used JIK since its inception. Stay well and keep up the excellent work.
Hi, are you still using Capture One instead of LRC? LRC has a new version very interesting. You can now work with layers. Has this new version of LRC worms? Thank you very much indeed for spending your time on these lovely videos! Happy New Year. Greetings from Spain
I used to have an XT2 and Lightroom was awful for processing my Fuji files, sad to see this still hasn't been fixed. Capture one on the other hand was amazing.
Thank you, very informative. I recently started using Capture One instead of Lightroom just because the problems you mentioned. Very happy with the results so far.
I have my whole workflow set on Lr, so I'm not planning on moving to Capture (for now at least). My strategy now is to do all the Culling and first edits straight on Lr. Then do some more culling and use the Enhance details on the selected files. Only then I'll work on the sharpness. But yeah 150mb raw files hurt!
Yeah, C1 tutorials sound great! There is no doubt it is a superior tool for Fuji RAW files. I my self love the C1, took me some time to get used to new workflow, but it has all the tools you need for a great edit.
Another great video.... I'm new to Fuji, I have been using Nikon for years, and my first attempt at using Lightroom on my first few photos had me wondering if I had chosen the wrong brand of camera. I'll be interested in your future videos on Capture one...
I've been using Capture One Pro since version 7. IMHO, it is the best solution for RAW conversions of RAF's and once you get used to the workflow and tools, it is far superior to LR. Just my opinion as I have used both. I understand why more people don't use Capture One. There are some DAM issues from what I've read but most of that is personal preference I suppose. From the overall experience with Fuji RAF's I will never go back to LR.
Rick Lewis I started using C1 since version 11. And I totally agree with you! The C1 results are so much better than Lightroom. Also, the Fujifilm simulations for my X-T3 (and previous X-T1 and X-Pro 2) are handled perfectly by C1. This gives so much options in post 😊
People use to talk about this as if it was something you notice right away from tweking the picture, but it looks like its one of those things only photographers would notice (after fully zooming). I will have to stay in lightroom. Thanks for the wonderful comparision.
Yes on the tutorials :) (photoshop/Lightroom user here definitely will consider capture one if it can help workflow since just recently got a x-t30 fuji camera). Thanks for the tutorials so far in fujifilm cameras it helped tons getting back into photography :)
I started using LR when I was a Nikon user, used to the flow but once I switched to Fujifilm, LR is worthless and it is a subscription based software, so I have to keep paying for a software that sucks if I don't switch. I switched to C1 Express and try to get used to the work flow 6 months before my annual subscription expired, and I just purchased the license for C1 20, which I enjoy using it right now. The only thing that I miss is HDR merge from LR
I am in the process of switching from Lightroom to Capture one and without doubt as a Fuji user the Image from Capture one is superior with no worm like artifacts as you have shown in this video. I put of switching to Capture one thinking it would be difficult to learn this new editing software but i was pleasantly surprised that you can configure settings to be very similar in use to Lightroom hence making the switch so much easier.
Thanks! Make a lot of sense. Please do tutorial on Capture One. And, sorry, can you explain a way to connect XT4 with the wire to the computer running Capture One? Thanks!
I do wonder so happen to be doing some review/revision to this topic - I wonder if you create a video about archival - and what's your way to save photos - and how to be able to find photos as quickly as possible instead of trying to waste time looking through each folder
kstrohmeier I have Iridient. It will enhance the detail of your Raw file if you have a scene that has a lot of texture/detail in it. I use it for bird photography and it gives a little more detail to the feathers as well as some landscape shots. To see the difference even in these examples you have to zoom in at least 100% to even see any difference. I pretty much only use it now in bird photography when I capture just the right shot with lots of feather detail and I am cropping a large amount. In other photos you will not see any difference at all. Thomas Heaton did an excellent video recently on the different raw converters. He is a landscape photographer. He printed images and could not tell any difference in the print unless he looked at them with an eye loop. So ultimately unless you are cropping heavy or printing very large none of this even matters.
Just moved to Capture One 20 as I’m a Fuji photographer Still struggling getting my head around the develop functions but very happy with the straight RAW conversion. Yes to CO tutorials and would also be interested in what the best workflow is from CO to Insta as historically I just put the images into my Lightroom Mobile folder and uploaded from the App. and.... sorry lots of questions what about using CO with Affinity Photo as I’m hoping to ditch Adobe altogether
You and me both Marcus. Adobe has had years to get it's act together in Lightroom and all they came up with was "Lightroom Classic". I don't use mobile (I prefer to edit on a workstation with large dual displays) so it's been frustrating for me to see the 'classic' LR slowly dying off.
This is interesting. I was just about to buy a Fuji X-T4 to replace my Nikon DSLR, and watched probably a half dozen reviews of the Fuji camera. Not one made any mention at all of this issue with LR vs Capture One. Now I have to decide if I feel like learning Capture One on top of leaving the familiar Nikon camera. -- I'm super glad to have seen this, so thank you!
You are most welcome! I just received my X-T4 and will be doing a complete and comprehensive video review of that camera. It's a huge review so will probably take at least a week or so but I am looking forward to testing it out and putting it through its paces.
You need to change the mask slider while pressing alt to find the right balance and move denoise luminance up a little in Lightroom to get the same look as Capture One.
I've never used LR. I've only had my Fujifilm X-T100 for 1.5 years or so. When I first was trying to determine what software to use to edit my raw files I saw lots of suggestions to use C1. I used the free version for a while to try it out and ended up buying a subscription when it went on sale. I really do like it and after watching several hours of tutorials have learned lots. I hope you do post some C1 videos of your own. Interestingly enough, my camera has a Bayer sensor. I suppose it being the more "budget" camera, Fuji went with that sensor.
I made up a preset in Lightroom for just sharpening I use with my xt2. Amount 70, radius 1.4, detail 25, masking 55. It enhances the edges but smooths the other surfaces a little. Just open a unedited raw file make those adjustments to sharpening, click develop new preset, title it what you want and save it.
great video! This definitely convinced me since I'm a fuji owner. The only problem I have is that I love how LR and PS works so well together. What will I do about PS?
Hey Andy, all good questions. I'm "starting" to look a bit at Affinity Photo. If that can do what I need from PS, then I won't need CC subscription anymore. However, like you I go back and forth between PS and LR and will be taking my time before making a serious change and switching systems to get rid of PS. C1 does have round trip editing in PS and I need to do some videos on this and some other workflow issues.
Great video once again Chris. I always wanted to move to Capture One because of this worming problem in Lightroom, however, I do a lot of HDR and Panorama stitching in Lightroom. As far as I’ve seen Capture One does not have any built in pano or HDR processing abilities. That’s holding me back from the full switch. Capture One certainly processes the Fuji RAW files better hands down.
Thank you for this quick, but detailed video. I JUST invested in an X-T4 and as it's on its way to my house, i see this discussion in a fuji group I'm in... Oh well! lol.
I toyed with the idea of switching from LR to C1, but it wouldn't have been cost effective. I'd pay about £300 for a capture one license then every time they release a new version you'd have to dip into your wallet again (albeit at a reduced rate for having the perpetual license) I decided to pay £30 for iridient X transformer and stick with LR for now, if Adobe change their prices, I'll look again probably
i switched to capture one last month and don't regret it, i wish i jumped ship sooner, no monthly subscription and its way faster than lightroom, oh and working with layers is awesome! I also use affinity photo as a photoshop alternative
I am already sold! My problem is that I am slow on the uptake and Capture One does not publish written instructions. Do you have any hints on starting to learn Capture One 20 Pro Fujifilm?
Hey Chris- I've used Lightroom for years. I have my workflow down and efficient. I have downloaded Capture 1 and can see a difference in the image quality. But, I'd love to see the workflow you come up with. As of now, Capture 1 is totally bogging me down. As always, loving your videos!
Thanks Michael!!! Definitely I'm putting those together. I just published one a few minutes ago that goes over Photo Mechanic / LR workflow with XMP files. Working on others. Great to see ya here pal!!!! A total honor for me!!!!!! Yeah, C1 is the way to go for sure.
@@pal2tech Chris- I'm basically doing this now. I do use Photo Mechanic to import (ingest) to my hard drives, then bring in what I want to Lightroom, and edit in Photoshop, and save back to the Lightroom Catalog. I guess I'll just need to find a routine that works for me with C1- can't wait to see what you come up up, as I keep playing on this end. Take care, my friend!
I would hands-down recommend Capture One for anyone who is either starting out or not too heavily invested in Adobe: I think your tutorials (which I look forward to seeing even more of) make the reasons readily apparent. In fairness, Lightroom does a fine job most of the time, and even when it doesn’t, it is usually an issue for “pixel-peepers.” Anyone obsessing over the “worms” is already a pixel-peeper, and they should appreciate that Iridient provides more raw processing options than Capture One. If you turn Iridient X-Transformer’s raw processing from “More Detailed” to “Smoother,” your example falls apart. But for those with a long relationship with Lightroom, the overall benefits of moving to Capture One are less obvious.
This is a timely topic given the improvements in PS and LR, including mobile and working with the iPad iOS. Can you do a video on using Capture One to do raw processing and using LR to maintain your catalog and for some processing?
I used capture one and went back to lightroom. I shoot lot of nightlife video and although c1 has more advanced colour grading tools LR's ability colour everything regardless of the source file is great for my work. I find capture 1 colour grading is subtle you have to build little by little to your desired effect. Which is great for portrait and fine work. but for me where I have to do quick color changes LR is better
I love your videos! I learned so much from them. One year later and maybe some major LR update later, is there any hope that LR can better manage Fujifilm RAW files? Have you tried?
Have been enjoying your videos as I am contemplating to move from my Sony A6600 system to all out Fuji and the Lightroom dilemma is interesting and wondering if things have changed for the better now? My workflow is built more around LRC and LR
Hi there, really love your videos. I am learning so much about my fujifilm x-series cameras from you. One of the things I am still not clear about: Are the wormy noise-artifacts present only while viewing the RAW Files on screen while processing in Lightroom? Or are they still present when they are exported into the jpg from the processed RAW files.? Thanks, Andrew (in Cincinnati).
I found c1 much more better for fuji files, but I also experienced some tech issues on my pretty old laptop. Aside from tech issues, when c1 correcting distortion it could crop original resolution anywhere from 50 to 300 pixels in my experience.
I've been shooting RAW with Fujifilm since the S5 Pro days. I went from Aperture to Lightroom and I was with LR for years but recently, not being happy with the raw converter I switched to shooting jpeg only. Then I dumped LR entirely and just started using the PHOTOS app, which to be honest isn't so bad and actually has features I like. I tried Capture One (free trial) but became frustrated with the learning curve and gave up. I too would like to see you do a series Capture One tutorials.
