Limbus Company Canto 5 Restored My Faith In Project Moon 

I can’t believe Dino Dave hates Limbus Company…no dignity…

Ishmael just kind of existing until joining Ahab, then weighing whether or not it is worth it to not damn herself, or suffer starting from square one in her life beyond just existing, hit me ***SO*** hard in the gut.

"Canto 6 had me found meaning in life again." Seriously though it gets better each time.

When Heath was the one to dig Ish out of the pale I literally celebrated like my football team just won the World Cup. Can’t wait for Canto 6

I remember when the Mili song started playing, all I could think was “Oh! There’s no piano in this one! Dino Dave is going to appreciate that!”

Imma just admit, as a thematic fight, I really loved the second part of ahab’s fight, I know we might not get gasharpoon as an ego but oh well, a man can dream Also as a side note, I really kinda do wanna apologize for the whole “guy who hates limbus” trend that spawned, I know I don’t speak for everyone but I just wanted to apologize for the behavior of the fandom at times, alas, it’s the curse of almost every fandom unfortunately.

DONGBAEK IS THE BEST BOSS WTH I do think that canto 4 is long as hell but I wouldn't consider it "filler." a lot of it goes into explaining multiple different important pieces of technology, how they were made and what they've become (ex. K corp's singularity, the mirror, and some more). Dongrang also just talks a lot early on, and you become aware of his relationship with Yi Sang but they awkwardly say nothing to each other until Dongbaek forces the two to acknowledge one another. As much as their silent standoff drags on, I think its kind of important to establish a sense of tension between the two. There was a reason they stopped talking and never bothered to reconnect. Even when face to face to each other, they're both trying to avoid the past. And they use this silent standoff to explain interesting things about K corp, so I cannot consider that filler. I think if you consider any of what I've mentioned as filler, then I feel like Smee's gang and Ricardo fighting them over coupons is filler (though Ricardo and the middle show what Queequeg went through) I don't really care much for limbus' boss design but I think Dongbaek was way better than the Pequod fight. Punishing me for not having a character who strongly resists pierce is kind of annoying as hell, and Gasharpoon after was kind of a joke compared to it. I do remember struggling more on Dongbaek than I did with Farmwatch, but idk I'm probably Dongbaek biased she's like one of my favorite characters I like her more than most of the sinners oops Idk I get where you're coming from but your comment about Canto 4 being worse just feels wrong. I love it sm

I think it's worth mentioning that over both their games and new cantos, Project Moon has not only greatly expanded their lore, but also INCREDIBLY enhanced their visuals. From the battle environments changing perspective from camera movement, to the weird 3D scene of Mephistopheles becoming a battlefield, to the new EGOs having seemingly 3D depth, to the ending scene with Ishmael throwing her harpoon. They are making huge improvements in their visual design and they really, REALLY show it. I'm excited for all the new animations to come. Maybe one day, we'll get a fully animated cutscene. Here's to hoping!

Surpsised you havent mentioed Ish VA. That woman carried the story on her massive lungs. Well done to the team and lets hope part 6 will do Heathcliff justice.

I told you dave, I knew you would like Canto 5 lol. I'm glad it restored hope in you for PM, and it genuinely makes me excited for future stuff if this is the kinda quality we can expect going forward! Also, I'm glad i'm not the only one who cried at the end of this canto lol

Canto 5 in a few words is “Wanted… Blood… Wanted Black And White…“ 2:23 I want to cuddle him.

One of my favorite things about the fourth Canto is how, after Yi Sang figured himself out, he was able to go from being a silent character with a couple of lines in three chapters to someone who was the first to calm Ishmael and Heathcliff down, to embrace the idea of volleyball, and to just become much warmer to his comrades. And unfortunately, personally, I haven't gotten the same effect from the ending for Ishmael yet. I mean, I liked her story, how she turned from being the most sane sinner into someone who just wants revenge... but after that, she just goes back to the beginning. Of course, I liked the way she decided to find her way, her compass, which is quite sunny. It was just the contrast that made Yi Sang's ending seem more impactful to me. Also, the moments with memories, in my opinion, are still in the fourth chapter. I mean, Ishmael, Rodion, and Sinclair just got flashbacks, Gregor had something like a journey with everyone else...and in Yi Sang it was a play in the literal sense, where sinners played other people according to the script. P.S and also Dongrang's Distortion theme reminded me of the battle with Roland during the Realizations I still like the fifth chapter of this story and hope Project Moon will continue to delight us. Limbus Company is not a great game so far, not better than Lobotomy and Library, but it still evokes pleasant emotions.

Let project moon cook guys, Library of Ruina was in Early access for a long time and the finished project was stellar.

There is a novel about Indigo's fight though! It's called "The Old Man and the Sea". Canto 3 and 4 were really hard on me, because they reflected my own mug, right back at me. The paralyzing instinct to go back to childhood that you can no longer go back to, too afraid to step ahead and take responsibility for yourself as an adult. The overwhelming burden of lethargy, marasm, the genuine belief that you have no means to change your life for better... drowning in inaction, waiting for rot to take over your body, rather than walking out into unknown. But canto 5 made me bawl. Ishmael's story, no, all sinners story is told in not jusy their chapters, but all their actions. I felt the sound slip into cracks of my own heart, and as the music blew them up, i felt it al spill in and out, like water washing the dark corners i've kept to myself. We know this feeling well, don't we? The fear of going into future without anything firm to hold onto. The fear of unknown and heading into it all by yourself, with noone by your side. I finished yesterday and still, I cannot stop crying, like decade of filth was being finally flushed from my heart, the sight of my burdens clear at last.

Personally I love Saude. She’s more believable of a perfectionist than Effie was. I don’t care for Effie. So I’m kinda glad she’s still alive. Canto 5 is a masterpiece and I’m glad that it exists.

canto 5 really reminded me how little faith i have in irish people

For me i thought chapter four as something that resonated with me on a really personal level, and because i despise ishmaels personality, similarly to how i disliked yi sang for moping constantly until late canto 4 i didnt think canto five would hold up. However this is project moon. They blew it out of the water, literally. Made me adore ishmael and her development and have broke me down a second time. Even then we see other sinners shine in the same spotlights alongside dante as well. Mili even made an extremely powerful song which yet again is in a different tone to their other themes. Utterly slaughtering it with the crescendo and animation. Overall they have and will most likely will continue to surpass themselves. Next up is heathcliffes arc, and I've been very eagerly wanting to see this one through

HE HATES IT, IT'S OVER

Okay I was honestly skeptical you'd enjoy Canto 5 but I'm really happy you enjoyed it.

I loved canto 5 too I’m glad to see you enjoying it ❤

Canto 5s writing was fucking amazing and PMs writing always hits me in my dead emotional core ❤️ the last fight was just absolutely amazing and ya may find Ahab as alright but she was by far the best villain we have had in a while!

It's so over ----> We're so back!

PM has been a massive inspiration for me as someone who wants to write a book one day. I find their horror and worldbuilding grotesquely creative. Even though I’m not big on the gameplay aspect of their games, I love videos like these because they give me insight and differing opinions into what works and what doesn’t work storywise. That being said I have not made it to canto 5 lol. no reason anymore I just haven’t been playing much. oops

My sleep cycle was broken but goddamn was it worth it for that epic finale

5:47 You know, I made jokes about how you are "the guy that hates limbus", maybe more than i should have, and for that you deserve and apology, despite what disagreements we have had talking in Lounge, i like talking to you man, you're great, and even if you and I don't agree on Limbus in some parts, or all PM content for that, i like talking to you when you show up. here is to 10k, and here is for Canto 6 to be even better. 🧡

i know it's just pm getting better as a whole on the Casual Racism front but it did make me giggle a little seeing the difference between some of vellmori's art and the classic ruina style and how black/dark characters FINALLY have blood holy shit. friend group parallel plays the new cantos and we were just about audibly pogging when starbuck and queequeg showed up. dear lord they finally have more blood in the blood budget

Glad to hear you enjoyed canto 5, the Mili song was ace and I really enjoyed the character designs Now its time to wait for this Bamboo-hatted Kim mini chapter to bang

I think the fight with the middle was silly, but fit because it showed not just how powerful he was, but also just how petty they actually were, like they killed an entire family because a _kid_ from that family spilled Icecream over a shirt or wardrobe that someone in the middle really liked. PM loves to take real world things and up them to 100, so I don’t doubt that the middle could be as petty as we saw Ricardo be then, (though there’s probably more to it in the lore as to why the hair coupon was such an insult to him, maybe akin to religion, I don’t know.)

All I can say after the video is... He REALLY loves canto six.

the fact that you lost faith at all is crazy

I’m glad you enjoyed Canto 5, so far it’s probably my favorite piece of storyline writing from PM so far(like individual stories kinda like those of the various factions in Ruina), I love the ending of Canto 5 where Ishmael is debating whether or not to kill Ahab and continue the cycle of self-destruction and vengeance they have going on and her decision to kill the whale and rob her of her life’s meaning and essentially stripping Ahab of her meaning for existence really hit hard for me, the fact that Ishmael decided to not give into the one thing that kept her moving forward in life and start on a new path in her life was nice. I also liked how the GasHarpoon fight was Ahab both cannibalizing her remaining crew’s souls and essentially taunting Ishmael and trying to provoke her into continuing the cycle and become more like Ahab. I also liked the small detail that Ahab manifested her EGO WITHOUT talking to Carmen, which is a small detail I instantly picked up on, it implies to me that Ahab might have already manifested her EGO before the fight and that was just her revealing it to us, and it fits that Ahab would be the kind of person to already have manifested an EGO and conceal it from everyone else. It also becomes pretty clear that she must have had this power beforehand considering how much she seems to be aware of her madness and her negative traits since it seems to be a common factor that once you realize your awful traits and accept that you manifest an EGO along with having a clear-cut and defined objective to accomplish in life, also she was very easily able to see through people, even as far back as Ahab and Ishmael’s first meeting, even if not as clear. There is definitely more I can discus about Canto 5 but I'm going to need to replay and revisit the story if I want to thoroughly discus it all, and preferably somewhere that isn't in a RU-vid comment section, which seems to be the best place to get actual Limbus Discussion(I avoid the PMCH Limbus channels like the plague they are)

I know everyone has their own opinions, but not liking canto 4 is kinda rough my guy, love your content tho.

Huh, I liked Canto 4 a lot more, but this one was also quite enjoyable.

"Im mad we didnt get a pinnochio fight inside the whale" WELL SHIT NOW IM ANNOYED WE DIDNT

Project Moon’s cutscene work has gotten so much better, I hope that the eventual Distortion Detective vn has these sprite cutscenes

finished canto 5 last night, and was wondering who that pallid person was who flashed and helped ishmael pull the heart... god damnit its queequeg and now the waterworks have started again

Everyone quickly edit his “I don’t hate limbus” speech to a more fitting speech for him

3:09 heath stealing coupons had a purpose. We just learned it on Christmas. Hip for 6.

Limbussy is limbussy. It doesn't matter if limbussy lacks limbussy, it is limbussy. Limbussy.

I'd say that my only major problem with this canto is that the plot relies too much on getting the crew into an inescapable situation only for someone to swoop in and defeat the overwhelming enemy in a single swipe. It was in prologue, during the fight with Kromer and by the third time with Big Brother the pattern becomes too apparent

I've had the new Mili song on loop for the past several hours I'm a little addicted to content from this canto honestly.

if you liked that just you wait for the head hooligan id and canto only for him

Dino Dave at 6:30 🏀⛹️‍♂️

Smee framing the sinners on stealing Ricardo's coupons is my new headcanon

Never doubt

the indigo elder is one of my new favorite characters he's so fucking cool

Alas, thy heresy has been forgiven.

Being Critical about something its just another way to show your love towards it. Point out flaws with the hope that you can improved its something as far as you can get from hating it

I absolutely incredibly enjoyed the story of Canto 4. But today after grinding so much and trying to balance the game with life, I'm just feeling so empty. I still to this day haven't beaten canto 4.5 and I've just been coming on pressing a couple buttons for the exp tickets and thread then leaving. Now, I'm completely out of modules and crates and I can't even do the daily tasks anymore unless I wanna easily take like 30 minutes which for the same boring thing every time that I have to be focused on doesn't make me feel good. I haven't seen anything about canto 5 really aside from Middle Don, but when logging in and being absolutely excited for such a cool ID I was then met with the realization I would have to grind 400 Don shards for it if I actually really wanted a chance to get it. When that set in I just felt like all of what I did in game was for nothing. I really don't want to push myself for the grind of another chapter if it's gonna drag on like the first 75% of Canto 4 and only be good at the very end when I fail countless times again and again in the longest dungeon known to man to finally beat the thing and then start the grind all over again waiting for chapter 6. At that point, I'd rather just watch on YT the whole story and not bother playing it anymore. If I come back and watch the rest of this video past the spoiler warning then it's clear what choice I made.

I agree with the fact that you like the new artstyle more, very ruina like. A sense of nostalgia in a way is nice to feel in a game that is meant to continue those past games like ruina and lobotomy corp, limbus did a very good job at tying the two together lore wise, but it's not completely about those two so I guess much can't be said. ( spoilers beyond this point. ) Although, I do hope for a very end of the game ending credits fight or something that has Roland and Angela fighting outskirts monsters like they did with the Head. That would be cool!

No matter how much I may disagree with your opinions and your complaints. I will never see you as a bad guy because the way I see it your another person with different opinions than others so there's no reason to hate or get mad at you for it.

I swear dinodave is like the tsun of project moon content creators

Personally I do not care if you are a Limbus Hater or not, because I don't let other peoples opinion incluence my enjoyment of things and more people need to adapt that mentality. On the other hand I don't really feel the need to defend Limbus because it's the worst PM Game for me just by being a Live Service Game. Lobotomy Corporation still fucking rules!

And the Cantos are only going to get better and better, and Heath's one is sure goin to be a emotionally destroying one! one thing i will say that i found sad of canto V is that.... WE STILL HAVENT SEEN THE ENVY PECCATULEA!! mf has been absent from their siblings for five whole chapters, pm let my boy envy peccatuleum show up :( aside from that im hyped for more story content and canto VI with the themes of wuthering heights i expect like i will feel totally misserable constantly through canto VI hehehehe we shall see him go from low, to he himself destroying his and everyones life around him, along with the mistreatment he suffered all around

Hey, I think we did get dreaming current fight, except it was an Abberation, the shark one, maybe

I mean having a Pinocchio fight in the whale literally wouldn't make sense as Pinocchio is in the Library, and yes the abnos in the Library are actually there just turned into books like the guests were so it's not the Pinocchio in the Library was a copy or anything, this also goes for Dreaming Current though Dream-Devouring Siltcurrent may be an aberration of Dreaming Current

Canto 6 (Sticks) - The Evil is You

Canto four was good, but yeah, the amount of repetitive fights brought it down, as well as being drawn out. Though the story and overall theme of it was really good.

5:17 thought we dudnt have a sad piano since philip though

pass on actually is my favourite because it flashback that sinner through story. each sinner have a way to express their different in the song like gregor just the based, rodion is more like lullaby, sinclair is well a boy singing so not really in sync, yi sang (the goat) have a mix with poem in it and having a changing bg :o, now we have more happier ish song with lor bg. I hope it will good and reflect with the sinner too ALSO PLEASE UPDATE BASE EGO OF GREGOR, RODION, SINCLAIR AND YI SANG. THEY HAVE CHANGED AS A CHARACTER SO PLEASE UDATE THE BASE EGO

Dino dave pessemism arc ends? Im proud man

intervalo 5.5.1 will feature hopkins trust me

Cant wait for Catherine

Aw, Dave, you're not the unspoken enemy of the ProjectMoon Community. That's THPDoom. :3

i was about to burst into tears when i was at the finale because i knew i have to wait a long time for new chapter and the story slapped hard

Great video! I loved how dave is starting his redemption arc over limbus. Now when are we getting the one piece video?

Eddie and Saufe is good, don't call them annoying( There's always a bigger fishes in this matter.

Ducc Moment

Man hating limbus company is fine Dino, however Hating "Star of the city" in LoR is not okay Dino... REEEEEEEEEEEE

To counter your criticism of Dreaming Current not appearing, how would it? It's in the main branch still and that's all the way in the Outskirts in the Library.

as much as i disagree with your opinions sometimes (DONGBAEK IS A GOATED FIGHT), i kinda agree with all you said, pretty happy you are positive about limbus now, 4.5 and 4.8 seem like they have quite a bit of potential, so i would love to hear your opinions on them! Also, of course i say that heath's canto is IMO the one with the most potential, since they showerd a bit of heath's character on this canto more, and his relationship with ishmael (SHIPPING BAIT SHIPPING BAIT SHIPPING BAIT/j) which i honestly find quite sweet, so yeah! I hope that you will enjoy what the future has in store for limbus

You know not everyone like to canto and even saying that Ishmael haven't changed much. That part of me somewhat hurt.

Pilot was a real nice foreshadowing of the group dynamic or more so one of the core ideals the pequad group also had. That being them convinced that they are sacrificing for the greater good by doing what they are doing. Your dismissal of his existence is rough. And I found alot of your criticism bitter, if anything. I guess much like you and limbus, we just don't click. But that's fine

will forever be mad we will never get feral ishmael vellmori art. new arts find but...not the same

0:54 ok, so, you said it aged like water, and water doesn't age?????? So instead of it aging horribly it hasn't even aged/ nothing changed????

Dino, love your content, but some of your personal tastes and opinions leave me absolutely baffled from time to time. It's still quite nice to have someone who goes kinda against the currents.

You and Limbus get along like opposite ends of a magnet... You don't click? I think you need to learn a bit more about magnets son.

The way fandoms in general treat criticism even if it's done in an earnest desire for the thing to get better is wild. the amount of times I had to calm someone down because they got angry at me for daring to say the mirror dungeon could use more random elements and more interesting EGO gifts to keep it fresh is insane. it's like some people think that if you aren't a 100% boot licker then you must be a hater.

The fact that this show up the minute I just finish Canto 5 is funny to me But fr Canto 5 made my ass cry 💀 and in my opinion might be best Canto so far even better then Canto 4 Do hope Canto 6 can be as good as Both Canto 4 and 5 or even better tho

>he did not keep fAith with UNWAVERING RESOLVE Tsk tsk Dave, have you finally learned? Sandwiches arent the only thing Project Moon can cook.

Love the video but... 20 hours to beat the canto? You take snack breaks every half hour or what happened here brother?

I know this sounds hurtful and im sorry but "*Sniffs* goddamn...... My multibillion company did it... Theyre making me proud."

Honestly, for me Canto 5 for some reason didn't give me as much impact as Canto 4. I really liked Yi Sang's character development after his canto and I really hope ishmael will get one in future cantos (if she'll get screentime, of course)

I don't exactly see you as the Limbus hater and I think it's healthy to be critical, but boy I can't agree with a lot of your takes on Limbus. e.g. I still don't see (or rather hear) how Two Worlds and Wings are the same or even a similar genre

I'll say, even with the filler fights in Canto IV, I still found it a bit of a drag, wasn't a huge fan of all the reenacting we got with the sinners, cool at first but it dragged on for too long imo, even though it was filled with worldbuilding, like most of the stuff I liked was pre-Dongaek boss fight and from Yisang being in Ncorp onwards. With Canto V, I think I can say I've liked every bit, outside of me wanting part 3 to be a bit longer to flesh out the rest of the crew (Pip felt non-existent outside of flashbacks) outside of Queequeg who feels like had enough to stand on her own. Less filler is huge, even just inserting some story bits like the Waves and Whales to justify the fight felt way better than having 3 fights in a row with no story at all. i like CIV a lot, but its hard to ignore its problems. Each part also developed a lot more than just Ishmael, I feel like Yi Sang and Sinclair showed improvements in their characters, Sinclair trying to intimidate the pirate in the club and Yi Sang being a lot more open in geberal, all while we were setting up Ishmael and her motives for the whale, just needed to be a bit longer in the actual last part. Outside of that, Part 2 still showing that our Sinners aren't still strong enough to face stuff like the Fingers is good, we dont need fast powerscaling yet. Also one thing: Lesbian Ishmael 👌👌👌👌

Idk how you'd expect to see Pinocchio inside the whale when it's currently banished to the Outskirts.

Not Liking Canto IV just because of bad pacing is a sin, also the coupon heathcliff took was probably for Cath and will be explained in Canto VI.

why are you so against sp drain?

Chapter 5 slaps hard, only thing I didn't really like was how ish kinda resets at the end? It's like she's just gonna act the same as she did before except this time it's genuine I guess Chapter 5 to me kind of exemplified something in Limbus. I liked the story, I really liked the character stuff for the most part, but I feel like it would have been better if it was in a different game that didn't have to stick to the whole mobile game formula of having short story bits broken up by a punch of pointless fights, the abnos in the white whale felt pretty out of place and siltcurrent is just way less cool and creepy than the OG Basically what I'm saying is if Limbus company was just a visual novel i would eat that shit up But those don't make gacha money.

Glad to see someone else didn't like canto 4

Imho Chapter 4 being long isn't bad thing, considering it's a gacha game and all your options are Main story and Mirror dungeons. Also Donbaek fight is lovely, I love theme of it so much) Chapter 5 is charming too, "Compass" is banger, and Idk why, but PM changing Ishmael's Snagharpoon line after the end of Ch.5 is adding so much attachment to the story for me.

Might aswell leave my opinion, Chapter 4 definetly has too much filler and in turn hurts the pacing, but donbaek onwards its great. Chapter 5 Starts off great, It builds up on how scary the whale is to the point of introducing a color to deal with it. My issues start in the dungeon. Chapter 5 built up the whale, you go inside and suddenly ahab and co. It completely shifts away from the whale aside from killing it and I really dont like it. I also dont like Ahab and co. being alive either, for me it feels like plot armor that they survived pallidification Its still well done though if we leave these few gripes out.

I really want to be excited for Canto 6, especially if it is the Heathcliff chapter, but after so many bad chapters just one good chapter isn't enough to restore my faith in the writing. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic and this really will be a turning point for the writing. Would be nice if it was.

You know, I hate character resets... but they way they handled Ishy's 'reset' is well-earned and well-deserved. Also the Heathmael allegations can't escape my brain, PM knows what they were doing when Heathcliff is the first Sinner to call her out for her schizo arc and also the first Sinner to pull her out of her 'pallidification' 😂

:{ D

Sadly It still didnt restored my faith, but made it worse

For Canto 6 to ruin it.