Not at all! I'd be disappointed if it suddenly became good because then we would lose these amazing roasts of yours. They're one of the highlights of my week.
Ryan’s all upset that Beth’s kidnapping got more attention than hers “because she’s white,” but wasn’t there a rich black guy who’s son was kidnapped in the first season and it was all over the news and Batwoman went to save him? The whole city basically mobilized to save him.
I genuinely wonder (having not paid attention to credits) if this show has the same writers who all suck to the degree of forgetting their own show, or if they burn through different writers constantly who are incompetent in different manners but to similar degrees.
More like the whole season. At least the first season was full of surprises what kind of stupid shit they do next ,but now all they do is pulling "muh racism" card again and again and it starts getting boring even for batwhamen
Why is Luke simping Kate again?🤪🤪 She never missed one opportunity to insult and deride his intelligence. She coerces him into stealing Bruce's tech, then insults the tech as imperfect, until it fits a woman. Every. Single. Time. She bashes Luke, "I already did the thing before you even thought about it. Stop mansplaining." And the whole, "Don't you know? I'm soooper ghey!" She treated you like shit. Never listened to you. Stop simping, man.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 They never gave Luke a chance to be good in this show. Probably among the biggest failings of the show overall. It would have been awesome to see him develop into batwing. (Along with having some good writing in general) But the wokeness is all that matters, shit even if he became batwing they would fuck it up. I guarantee it.
Jacob is blamed for so much; -Alice blames him for her kidnapping -Kate blames him as well -His ex blamed him for her OWN bad actions -Now the new batwoman blames him becus his daughter was missing at the same time she was. Like wtf give Jacob a break!
"He didnt look for me hard enough" "He looked too hard he shouldve looked for black kids instead" yikes this show is more bipolar than a therapist's patients
Because speaking ill of a lesbian - even if the criticism is more than earned - is a crime worse than death; especially if said criticism comes from a male.
"You're throwing your life away. Those drugs will kill you." In India, it is legally required to put pictures diseased lungs and throat X-rays and disfigured mouths and faces on cigarette packs, as health-warnings to discourage smoking. Guess what? It stops no one.😊😊
Truly I wished I seen what the alternative universe version of a Batwoman TV show would be like. Like without the wokeness and more focused on character, setting, actions, etc.
I think it's hilarious how the show is constantly trying to say how hard Ryan's life was just because she's balck and yet fails to realize they have two other "main" characters, Luke and Sophie, who are also black and have completely different life experiences.
@@aliyahmaidenname9255 And oftenly guilt tripped on for not “being there for Kate.” Even tho she wanted to focus on her career and you know, not waste those 4 years in the military
She was tied near a window looking at her possible rescue. Little girl, do you have a forehead? Do... you... know... how.... to headbutt!? Get a few scars and get saved
Or tackle the window and try to break it. Knowing this show's physics that wouldn't result in the kind of damage it realistically should, and would definitely get peoples' attention. And this is assuming a kidnapped orphan child is both knowledgeable enough to consider the injury vs not being found, rational enough to deem it a bad idea, and not desperate enough to escape the kidnapping to risk severe injury vs indefinite imprisonment. Also, you're gonna tell me this woman kidnapped 2 children, at least one of whom has escaped and survived to Adulthood while being in the system, after an extended time missing, and yet is not only not in jail, but living in the same house where the abduction took place? At least Alice and Cartwright (creepy Skin dad) both abandoned the kidnapping house by the time the present plot started.
Eventually it will be a man as in Batman, Bruce Wayne. Why? Because the writers will see that they're stealing other cultures and they have to write what they know Being a rich, white, man
Its worse... Because both Ryan and the kid that rescue her escape. Someone would've been looking for them by now. Surely. And even if not, why did you not go to the cops? Wouldn't they interview you to find out what happened and who's the lady that almost killed you? She's still operating her shit racket years later, clearly she's never been caught and for so long has been keeping up with her hobby of kidnapping kids. The balls of this show to blame Jacob for all this bs. Especially when GCPD and Crows are two distinct entities and yet there's no clarity on the hierarchy of law enforcement under this system.
Luke saying how much he misses Kate is like someone trying to justify their abusive relationship. "Sure, Kate treated me like crap all the time, but you don't *KNOW* her like I do. She's still a good person."
@@FunZies. I've heard that sentiment echoed by a lot of other critics of the show, because you're absolutely right. Mary was always the one desperately pining after Kate's attention, and Kate would never give her the time of day, so it makes no sense why she would suddenly be okay with letting Kate go.
He's name is just Static not Static Shock. Static Shock is the name of the show. Still that logic is dumb. Hell, a lot of black super heroes fight and save black people even protect their community.
Never thought the whole lesbian hacker episode from the last season would be topped in sheer stupidity and ignorance, but holy hell at least that episode was unintentionally funny.
I'm really sick of shows, movies, games, and comics politicizing black characters all the time. Why can't they just be written like any other protagonist and not have their whole identity be fixated on the colour of their skin? Oh right 'cause the people in media beating us over the head with the message "be anti-racist" are ironically the ones keeping racism alive today.
Being black is inherently political tho, we are perceived through our blackness most of the time, not people, but people of color. This is reflected in shows, albeit bat woman does it very, very badly. When shows completely ignore the racial politics around black characters, it feels idealistic and not quite right, like Bridgerton.
@Gentleman Murk 1- Not just fanboys. Fangirls too. 2- We hate her not because of what she is but because of *who* she is. If you can't separate that difference then you're the one that needs to reevaluate their views on others.
@@andredawson6748 Depends on the continuity since it often alters, first edition it was an exact replica of Dick Graysons, just a different named hitman. In the second iteration he was raised by a single father who skipped town to avoid a debt. In the third and most common adaptation it was an abusive dad, and overdosed mother and he left of his own accord.
When you think about it Rian is responsible for this abduction of this kid more than the GCPD and Crows. She knew about this candy lady for years and never reported her despite knowing this lady operating in the same location for years.
Ryan did nothing, an evil triumphed, over and over and over again. *How* many children became gang members because Ryan said nothing about the Candy Lady? And this went on for over *fifteen years,* so that's much worse than anything Kate did or didn't do as Batwoman.
@@Radley1982 eh, thats probably only a few dozen kids, Alice killed way more while Kate did nothing. Ryan just had absolutely no reason to not put a stop to it. At least Kate was hung up on the whole "shes my long lost sister" thing going on.
Christ, this show has no chill whatsoever. Even the biggest clap emoji Yass Queen on Twitter would probably find it a bit heavy-handed in its message. It's impossible to pretend this show isn't just meant to exploit the SJW demographic like a Transformers movie exploits dumb teen boys. The writers are so terrible that they gave up trying to make something good, and just settled for the superhero equivalent to a freakshow you can't look away from.
At least Transformers had its moments and was enjoyable in a dumb guilty pleasure sort of sense. With Batwoman, the only thing that keeps me interested was the actual reactions, as the show itself isn't even that interesting, apart from seeing how much lower it can sink.
its because they know they dont have to work for it because clearly this show is not reliant on the ratings system since season 3 is already green lighted. This is some Uwe Boll under the table bs lol
Another reason the cops can’t find the kids is because they’re always running around trying to stop Alice and her gang from blowing up buildings 24/7, did the show forget about it?
And the reason Alice and her gang keep blowing up building 24/7 because someone who has enough power to stop her, chose not to stop her. Wonder who that someone is?
I love how she also blames the guys looking for missing kids, the ones that show up at the candy lady house. "They were looking for some white girl" LOL Bitch.. she's been kidnapped too show some empathy. Plus... what's her trauma in the end ? Is it her mom getting killed by Alice and her respawning goons ? Is it her getting assaulted by a bunch of dudes before getting saved by Kate ? Is it her getting kidnapped as a child ? There's like a new lifelong trauma every episode lol
I like how they made her so dumb and pathetic to even try to get their attention 🤣🤣🤣. Why did she assume they wouldn’t help her just cause she wasn’t black? Also, the lady was at the same house and she never thought to stop the lady from taking more kids. Even when she got the bat suit. 😂😂😂 She’s and Kate could be best friends.
She's literally just the walking SJW victim-hood narrative and they have to keep adding on for it to be dramatic enough. Sure they'll keep it going too, like there's any reasonable explanation of "victimhood" that allows you to literally know whom victor zsaz is.
Since she thought Kate was shit because she's white and rich until she read that Kate was a lesbian and quickly changed her opinion it's apparent just how superficial Ryan is. I don't know if the kidnapping is what made her not like white people or what...
Yep. Look at JLongbone's rant about the eye make-up again. Not that anyone at CW/WB cares, but for the hundredth time, no one cares about what race a superhero is, just that they are a little "super" and a bunch of "heroic". JL seems legit mad there. "Batman is crap because he doesn't save black kids." Yeah, no. He does. And if you don't know/think/believe he does, you don't deserve to write stories in the Batman universe for a TV show you get paid for. Stick to Tumblr.
Kinda finding it hard to believe that the GCPD isn't doing anything to find the missing kid when that full-color poster of him clearly has 'Gotham City Police Department' stamped on the top left.
This show never lets the facts get in the way of their narrative. The GCPD isn't looking *because the plot said so.* Pay no attention to that GCPD logo on the corner of the poster!
6:30 I have no idea what we're supposed to think about Mary. She's a stereotypical vapid, rich socialite...but she also runs an underground medical center? She should have a _ton_ of experience brushing shoulders with Gotham's most impoverished citizens, but the writers also want her to be 'Ha ha, look at rich girl not understand non-rich things.'
Loving that little Ryan's dedication. "Oh shoot, they're not specifically looking for me. Better stop trying to get their attention then, or things would get super awkward if they notice me." Seeing how on the nose this is written I'm surprised the evil candy lady didn't just say "Ah yeah I did kidnap a little girl but not the one you're looking for, see, she's black" and then the search party just leaves.
It's almost enough (emphasis: almost) to look back fondly on the writing of Alice's origin. Alice only _started_ to turn on her family because her father and twin sister were physically in the house where she was being held captive, but left none the wiser, damaging what she innocently/naively thought was an immutable connection. Plus, the reason she didn't make any sound was because her captor said he would kill anyone that found out she was there (as stupid as it is [among other things] for Beth to think that Skindad would stand a chance against her SOCOM father in a fight). Oh, right, and she was abducted in the first place because she fell into a river during a superhero fight, was found by her kidnapper, and woke up in captivity. In contrast, Ryan was kidnapped by someone literally using the 'Get in my van, I have candy' strategy, and what broke her was that people came to the house looking for a missing child...and it turned out they were there looking for a _different_ missing child, and she thought they were looking for her, specifically. Oh, right. And then the 13-14 year old that had an uncomfortable interest in a 12 year old got herself kidnapped to rescue her. That sure was great, too.
Static was one of my favorite heroes as a kid, and it amazes me how he hasn't had a show in years, but Batwoman is a thing... then again, leave Static alone if this is what you do.
"Have you ever read a comic where the Superhero saves a kid of the streets like you?" Yes.... It's called BATMAN. The Dark Knight even adopted one of those kids, Jason Todd, and made him the second Robin.
"How did you find him?" The CORRECT answer that would've tied the barebones theme together: "His brother." Because....thr entire brainwashing system thing was based on the lie that....they had no one who loved them? But clearly thats a lie and that simple answer would've solidified it in the kids mind that the villain was wrong and his family does love and care. So much they got BATWOMAN to look for him. Like. That woulda at least come full circle with the thematic element?!
I think Ryan needs to smoke some of that League of Shadows herb the fear toxin is made from like Bruce Wayne did, and get an appreciation for building mental fortitude and fighting under pressure, unable to fully trust your senses, and face your fears.
So, Ryan let Candy Lady kidnap kids for how many years before bothering to do something? She got the Batsuit and her first thing wasn't to kick in the door to this chick's house and stop it? She never reported this to the police or Crows? Not to even Kate Kane's Batwoman? The lady was in THE. SAME. DAMN. HOUSE. They could have at least had her move somewhere else to get a bit of plausible deniability. But nah...
@@MariaIsabellaZNN She knows of the fourth wall and wants to gain some fake virtue points to try and be remembered before her show gets canned. This will be like that time I had diarrhea, long, painful but ultimately, forgotten.
I know that JLongbone didn't include every scene here, so maybe some context is missing, but I wondered about that too... So Ryan's kidnapped, saved, then 20 years later she's reminded by another kidnapping that "Oh yeah, a kidnapper used to live around here. Oh hey she still does! Let's punch her!"
I know that JLongbone didn't include every scene here, so maybe some context is missing, but I wondered about that too... So Ryan's kidnapped, saved, then 20 years later she's reminded by another kidnapping that "Oh yeah, a kidnapper used to live around here. Oh hey she still does! Let's punch her!"
Going from that to this in the space of a few minutes, I love this continuity between videos of different creators. A better extended universe than DC's
As soon as yound Ryan realized they're looking a white kid, she just gave up instead of trying to get noticed. Talk about "because the plot says so" contrived writing.
The police can only do one crime at a time. Criminals don't follow the law so sometimes they do two crime at same time. Police must decide which crime to fight.
"Alice can't get my hopes up because I never lost them to begin with" I rolled my eyes so hard, I caused permanent damage. C'mon Luke, you're better than this!
To be fair (I guess) no body was recovered, and in that line of business you can be hopeful until proven otherwise. I suppose I'm more bitter at Mary considering how quickly she gave up hope on finding her half-sister and seemed to be stopping any and all progress on finding Kate despite her clingyness in Season 1. Obviously done because the writers we're almost certain Kate might not get replaced and if the two characters we're written as accurate to themselves in Season 1, then the male character would be correct and god fucking forbid in this show.
It's like those drug dealers from the anti-drug PSAs from the 80's/90's, who were cartoonishly evil. Like, they'd be part demon, or they'd aggressively give you free drugs to melt your face. 😅
This show will not give up, will they? They are still trying to convince us that Sophie's decision to fake it till she made it was a bad idea like holy hell. Also, why was Ryan surprised that no one went looking for her, everyone thought she ran away from the orphanage, which is somewhat common among orphans. The fact that the other bitch only knew she was taken because Ryan left her Ghost Kid collection is extremely lucky.
Also, Ryan implies the cops didn't look for her. Implying that someone must have at least reported her missing. So wouldn't you go to the hospital after you escaped a murderous lady's captivity? Wouldn't the cops turn up eventually after you're back outside and found and free? Wouldn't they interview you and catch the lady? Clearly she's been active all these years between Ryan's kidnap until this episode... Also, a black kid comes to you and tells you to find his missing brother. Can I just start a fire and call Batwoman because my grandmother's missing? Clearly if she doesn't turn up, she's evil amd I hate her and am justified to go find and kill her, right? She COULD HAVE helped me, and didn't turn up. She's evil.🤪🤪
Goddamn, the writers have not given Luke or ANY character on this show any reason to care about Kate Kane this much. They should have confirmed the kill and focus all this emotion on finding out who killed her. Not like she's coming back, they're making it harder for themselves
I think the reason why they didn't kill off Kate Kane is to potentially bring her back in the future. It could be Ruby Rose or a different actress. The show is so stupid that almost anything is possible.
"I bet there's not even a missing kid, he's just trying to sell candy bars." 🤣 Once it gets warm I can't walk two feet without tripping over some kid selling candy.
a big inconsistency in this story is : if Ryan and Angelique managed to knock out the candy lady and escape her house, WTF haven't they denounced her, while they knew where she was living ?? She has continued abducting children for years after this and would have continued if the little boy hadn’t told Ryan about this last kidnapping 🤦♀️
Yeah, I've been in and out of group homes when I was younger. If a kid comes up and introduces themselves like that? They're getting bullied or ignored because that shit is weird. Most new kids? (Including myself) Keep to themselves and away from people, eventually one of the other kids ends up interacting with them first. Why? Because that kid is usually scared and alone because they don't actually want to be there.
I love how she says the cops are not looking for this kid who does she thinks printed up those flyers? Duh 🙄 this is easily the most offensive episode yet.
Not only was the case not even Jacob's, Ryan also was only able to find the kid because she coincidentally had been kidnapped by the same person and knew where to look.
Yeah, it's not ideal, but a roof over your head? A regular supply of food and drink enough to keep your figure up? Clean clothes? They're treating it as if she were living in an alley in rags. Though, wouldn't it be cheaper to get an apartment in the long run than pay for maintaining and refueling that big van?
Bro wtf did Kate do to luke? She treated him like a fucking leper the entire first season and now suddenly he is the one that wants Kate back the hardest instead of the over emotional Mary? Does consistency exist in this show?
Some one pointed this out but in almost every other situation that she encounters with a person, she somehow has to relate to them therefore try to make us feel sorry for Ryan to go out of her way to help them OMG
This episode gave me a stomach ache, I’m not even kidding, the whole, “ThEy LoOkEd FoR HeR BeCAuSe ShEs WHiTE.” And then they wonder why their ratings are in the toilet. 🤦🏻♀️
There was an issue of action comics that came out two years ago where superman fought his way through several galaxies to find a young girl who was kidnapped by aliens from the street. Like all superheroes have a story or two where the save a underprivileged youth, it's a trope
That part where the candy lady tells her there's never been stories in comic books where a superhero saves a kidnapped orphan, or to be more specific a black orphan, just proved to me that the people behind this show have no knowledge of the original source that their taking "inspiration" from. It genuinely feels like they only looked at images of comic book characters, read their synopsis on Wikipedia and that was it.
Wow. I actually assumed that Snakebite was used by gangs against their enemies, not being used as an actual drug. Clearly, I'm smarter than these writers and I've never even gone to a writing school. Also, why is Ryan surprised that no one came looking for her? This is Gotham. You know, home of Bane, Mr. Freeze, and Clayface? Who do you think law enforcement is gonna investigate, a random orphan that people probably aren't even aware exists or a man who can turn people into ice?
What was the fucking point of firing Ruby Rose and making such a big deal out of casting a new Batwoman when all they do is keep Kate alive, and try to have her come back?! What was the point of making such a big deal out of casting a gay black woman to play Batwoman, when all they were gonna is cry and beg for Ruby Rose to come back?!
I really really hate to defend this show, but: Ruby Rose quit, she wasn't fired. The showrunners didn't want her gone or anything. Kate Kane was **the main character** of the show, so of course it needs to deal with her mysterious disappearance. Every character in the show had ties to her, and even these writers aren't quite hack fraud enough to just wave their hands and say "oh, she's gone now" and not deal with the fall out. ...Which isn't to say that the way they're handling it now is good or well written, because its not. But it does need to be addressed and dealt with. A season long mystery sub plot to wrap up the vanishing of the former main character is perfectly acceptable, and in actual well written show, it'd be fine.
@@s4juliette Main character being missing and people trying to find them is fine but when they are as insufferable as Kate then all we could wish for is a charred corpse next to the batsuit and Luke getting over his Stockholm syndrome while everyone realizes how terrible Kate was and are happy they are gone. But nope! They honestly believe that Ruby will be coming back and if they go ahead and recast her then what the fuck was Ryan Wilder supposed to be!?
@@isplat927 Maybe we'll be treated to a cameo of """Kate""" in the season finale after they realise RR ain't ever coming back. It'll just be a stunt double in the bad wig from verrrrry far away
Like, as much as I hate the writing, this new actress is JUST competent enough at Delivery (as compared to Ruby Rose) that she's just "actually terrible" rather than "hilariously terrible" to watch.
In season 3 of Batwoman, the new Batwoman will be paralyzed and trans, so that Batwoman can be even more progressive. Also, Alice will still be alive and licking random people's vegetables.
A little looked over point of this episode. How many years did Ryan let other kids get taken and she never said a word to anyone? Even if they go with "She couldn't remember where the woman lived." she could have given a description of her, told police where she was taken from, or, ya know, tried to alert the actual Batman. Two children, even orphans, standing on a street corner screaming about how one was kidnapped and the other saved her would probably get back to Bruce Wayne. This show continues to just write scenes and not stories.
They can’t use the excuse that she doesn’t remember she had to to walk back from that place after all so she knows the way. And traumatic members are harder to forget. And they can’t say she blocked it out because she clearly didn’t block out the rest of her horrible memories of her time there. However, the writers clearly don’t care about logic.
"Because comicbook readers know better". You couldn't be more correct. We do know better. And you'd think people at the professional level would, too, but this is where we are.
16:18 she barely even moves to "yank" that pallet like i can forgive her doing ANY sort of halfassed pull pose to send that thing flying at the guy but those things weight like 40lbs. bending your arm 5 degrees aint gonna produce that much pull lmao.
Also gotta love how insincere this whole plotline of "oh people don't look for black kids because they're BLACK" is while also completely making up a character, solely making her black because... she's black. It's even more egregious when when Ryan was kidnapped at the same time as Alice when THEY MADE HER UP AFTER THE FACT. They want credit for talking about "people being racist" when they FORCE these scenarios to happen. Also whenever someone on the show says "some white girl" or whatever it's very... negative sounding.
She complains about her abduction, but her white girlfriend saved her. -She still complains, but she never tell anyone about the free candy lady in 15 years!!! Also, the other Batwhamen saves her one Time. Writters thinks less about the show than us.
"I looked" Translation. "I lucked out and randomly encountered the one small child looking for him. Just so happened to be kidnapped by the exact same person as a child. And knew someone with the exact address." Which she says to the guy who is pretty much Private Security, so it's not his business anyway. While also ignoring the fact that Ryan never reported the woman, took revenge, or even went after her the moment she got the batsuit and it was "time to be powerful." Y'know, the kid probably wouldn't have been kidnapped at all if she had done something about the woman herself much earlier. The "No one will look for an orphan like you," is such a joke in Gotham of all places. Y'know, where Batman is known for caring about disenfranchised children, because that's his whole thing. Some of which he took under his wing.
After season 3 Bryan Fuller either went nuts or his craziness came out so I'm hoping that never happens because I loved the first 2 seasons and don't want them to get ruined in retrospect.
I like how the character who has no familial relation to the missing person is the one most distraught and in denial about that person possibly dying *than the step-sister of that person who has already experienced a long-thought-dead family member popping up out of thin air in the most ridiculous of ways*
@@cdreyes81 ahahaha baso many black women lay down their baby hairs/ edges using a gel to make it look neater or nicer so sweating out your edges is when they become unlaid :)
Wait I just realized, she takes the time to put on a wig and glue it down each time before she fights, but she won't put a little black eye makeup like the rest of the Batfamily.
I realize with this show they have interesting things that could make the show great but the execution is just terrible Idea: Orphan kids/kids in the projects being abducted and can't be found ok thats a good start why aren't the kids being found? Plot: Because they're black no one bothered to care. Until a little white girl went missing
The cops searched the vicinity near the river where the accident happened and gave up since they did not find a body. Only Jacob continued to search and searched in the area where the accident happened. So how would there have been a search party in a city neighbourhood in Gotham when she did not go missing there?
As for "I looked"... there were no leads at all. Batwoman only knew what to do since she just retraced her childhood steps she somehow had... and didn't guve a damn for for like 20 years, letting many kids get kidnapped with not a single care given by her. The only way he could solve it was if he was kidnapped as kid too or, I dunno, someone informed them about it, which she clearly didn't do.
The shows starts off with Gotham having an effigy about Batman and how he "abandoned them" meanwhile Kate Kane is a grotesquely irresponsible murderer, whose last public observation is fleeing from a gunfight with the Crows(some poorly defined private security agency), that keeps letting villains get away and somehow everyone in the city is so invested on getting her back even though she's been Batwoman, what? A year? So in a show ostensibly how women go thankless for the work they do and how women are mistreated in society, it explicitly shows a man, having done at least the same job, being excoriated, while showing a women doing terribly being thanked and rewarded without reason. I'm not a writer but I think this is a bit of a contradiction with your desired point CW writers.
