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@MRLBOYDMOVIEREVIEWS
@MRLBOYDMOVIEREVIEWS Год назад
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@VonLigenstein
@VonLigenstein Год назад
Have you seen the Help... Best scene in that whole movie Miss Hilly's special pie lol.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan Год назад
The guy wasn't saying the 13th Amendment was tyrannical, he was saying the way Lincoln was describing his own use of his war powers sounded tyrannical (suspension of habeas corpus was certainly illegal). But that's why they needed the amendment, to make it all legal.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
Also even if the voters around the nation were a-ok with his wartime rights violation measures, the Emancipation Proclamation simply cannot hold after the war ends, it’s in its nature not to.
@justinalicea1590
@justinalicea1590 5 месяцев назад
Wanted to add that it had to be debated whether the president or Congress had the power to suspend habeas corpus. And Lincoln's personal usage of it was along train tracks to make sure that Congress could convene. If not used, there was a genuine risk of saboteurs derailing or stopping trains with Congressmen to decapitate the legislative branch. Once Congress did get together, they would then pass the suspension of habeus corpus for the entire country.
@steakismeat177
@steakismeat177 Год назад
From what I have gathered he was always against slavery, but he was moderate in how he thought it should be ended, preferring to contain it until died out, until the civil war started changing his viewpoint
@HappyMan0203
@HappyMan0203 Год назад
This is basically correct. Lincoln himself had always opposed slavery, but believed that it would not be possible to outright abolish it; the political will and capital just wouldn't be there. So he campaigned on just preventing it's further spread, so that it could naturally die out. It wasn't until during the Civil War that Lincoln realized that it would be possible to fully realize abolition.
@drewdurbin4968
@drewdurbin4968 Год назад
He saw it as they key to ending the war, why? Because he believed the southern armies could not function without the slaves that supported them, and he was absolutely correct.
@steakismeat177
@steakismeat177 Год назад
@@drewdurbin4968 It was deeper than that. Otherwise the emancipation proclamation would be enough. It would free slaves as a military strategy and nothing more. Slaves would likely be returned after the war. No the war showed Lincoln that slavery had to be swiftly abolished in the closing of the war. Otherwise it would continue to rear it's ugly head as it had in the various compromises that preceded the war. So, on the question of Abolition, he abandoned his moderate stance, of containment and gradual abolition, and embraced the more bold one.
@dannydement
@dannydement 8 месяцев назад
I wouldn't say "always", but was from a fairly young age. He was awakened to the horror of it when he witnessed a barge of slaves in chains passing by on the river, and it grieved him deeply.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
That's only half correct. He spoke publicly, and often from an early age, saying it should be abolished now. But when he started running for office, he was often forced to moderate, and even that did not prevent voters kicking him out of Senate office due to his perceived extreme views. In short, he was a lying politician and most of his voters saw through it. To claim otherwise is to believe a politician.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 18 дней назад
The night Lincoln was shot, his little boy was at a play at a different theatre in Washington
@josecolon5284
@josecolon5284 3 месяца назад
This screen play was based on a non fiction book called Team of Rivals. As in he filled his cabinet with rivals to ensure he can anticipate the general arguments. Yes. He was very much against slavery. That’s the whole point of the new abolitionist Republican Party. Lincoln was the first Republican president to for that purpose. However, since the civil war, the reunification of the union took the front seat. He did leverage the war to ensure the 13th amendment passed.
@tommcdonald5958
@tommcdonald5958 Год назад
It wasn't filmed in the White House or in DC. They filmed it around Richmond, VA - mostly near the State Capitol building (which looks similar to the US capitol and other classic buildings). I remember the film crew putting down sod/grass around the outside. One of my friends was an extra. Always thought it was interesting because Lincoln walked around Richmond and the Capitol after it's fall in 1865, and those same rooms housed Confederate politicians from 1861-1865.
@ThistleAndSea
@ThistleAndSea Год назад
This makes a fun double feature with "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter." Also more dramatic than historical. 🙂
@rickyhollinghurst2133
@rickyhollinghurst2133 Год назад
Been with you from day 1, best reactor on RU-vid bar none! On a side note, it'd be interesting to see some of your work. Perhaps a weekly upload of the photos you've taken that week 🤔. Keep up the great content on all your channels. Rarely a video I skip 🙌
@nerdimmunity7672
@nerdimmunity7672 2 месяца назад
Didn’t include the “Now” scene?
@drewlester4313
@drewlester4313 6 месяцев назад
Ukraine
@Drax514
@Drax514 Год назад
THANK YOU. Seriously. Somebody FINALLY reacts to this extremely amazing and important movie. I've been screaming at the rafters on multiple channels to react to this magnificent performance and magnificent movie. So thank you. Seriously. This movie is amazing.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 9 месяцев назад
Yes, reactions to Its A Wonderful Life, Apollo 13, The Empire Strikes Back, Psycho are getting a little old. Good movies, but overdone.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
@@billolsen4360I've only seen him and one other reactor react to Lincoln, and the other wasn't even American and understood little. All the reactors on RU-vid seem only to react to the same crap because they mostly all rely entirely on Patreon polls, which means only movies with the broadest (read: dumbest) appeal.
@mrhanekoma86
@mrhanekoma86 Год назад
I firmly believe that Daniel Day Lewis is one of the best actors to ever grace the stage or the screen.
@jamesalexander5623
@jamesalexander5623 Год назад
I helped discover him, I saw him in his first West End Play "Another Country" in the role of Guy Bennett.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Год назад
I firmly believe that the Pope is Catholic.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
It's a popular opinion.
@scipioafricanus5871
@scipioafricanus5871 7 месяцев назад
@@jamesalexander5623 Did you receive a finder's fee, sir?
@1313tennisman
@1313tennisman Год назад
The "King Abraham Africanus" had a double meaning. It was both a way to say king of the african population in America and a reference to the Roman general Scipio Africanus who had defeated the Carthigians during the Second Punic War. Hes effectively calling him a Roman-style tyrant in the US (and backing it up by calling him a "usurping Caesar" in the next line). Most educated people were well-versed in classical history during this period
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
The suspension of habius corpus and other accusations are actually true, it’s just that Lee Pace and the other “Copperhead Democrats” were using them to make their side who are supporting slavery in the “land of the free” win.
@thomasabrials6190
@thomasabrials6190 4 месяца назад
They called Lincoln “Africanis” because his enemies wanted people to believe he favored full negro equality. You need to appreciate that these were very very racist times. Although Northerners were willing to fight to end slavery very few anywhere favored equality. Thus this monicker was meant to smear Lincoln for political gain. Please, don’t overthink this!
@chrisplourde1690
@chrisplourde1690 Год назад
This movie is quite accurate. It was based off a portion of the book "A Team of Rivals" by Doris Kearns Goodwin, the title taken from the fact that his cabinet which filled with people that all thought they could have done a better job as president. It's a great read.
@PhasersAndArrows
@PhasersAndArrows Год назад
Thanks!
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 9 месяцев назад
That's a great book! Lonnnnng, but never tedious.
@Matt_D_370z
@Matt_D_370z Год назад
From a classical liberal/free-market perspective, Lincoln was a free-soiler, so he was always against slavery. Even though he personally believed in the abolition of slavery, he was not a radical abolitionist. He believed in the gradual abolition of slavery; so, he was a moderate abolitionist. He made his free-soiler; moderate abolitionist stance crystal clear as early as 1854 & during his entire campaign for the presidency. With that being said, he did not campaign on, or win the presidency, wanting to abolish slavery, all together. He campaigned on, and in part won the presidency, arguing against the expansion of slavery. Because of Lincoln's stance on slavery, as a free-soiler & opposed to the expansion of slavery, the southern states seceded. Eventhough he was a free-soiler & against slavery, his initial goal was to end the war, and bring the southern states back into the union. Only later, was Lincoln persuaded by military necessities & by radical abolitionists to outright abolish slavery.
@drewdurbin4968
@drewdurbin4968 Год назад
Correct, although I would take not that his election caused some of the southern states to secede. It was his creation of the army after fort Sumter that finally drove out the upper south.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
This is nonsense. He may have softened some of his public positions during campaign speeches, but he was 100% for abolition immediately. He gave countless speeches, read them.
@dahveed72
@dahveed72 6 месяцев назад
Agreed. His public and private stance is pretty clear even before his presidency.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 6 месяцев назад
Not true. He gave fiery speeches for the abolition of slavery. Many of them. He was voted out of his senate office for it. South Carolina literally seceded from the union, citing his extremist abolitionist position.
@justinalicea1590
@justinalicea1590 5 месяцев назад
​@@drewdurbin4968​That's an excuse by the upper south, not the reason of secession. Not only did the Confederate government call up troops for longer service, but as you wrote yourself, THEY STRUCK FIRST. Not the North. The Upper South were going to secede no matter what. If the North put together troops to stop the secession, then they would claim that to be why. If the Union did NOT send troops to stop secession, then the Upper South would see their secession be unopposed and continue as planned.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Год назад
Slavery was "on its way out" globally, but that only drove up its value domestically. Slavery was more profitable than ever before in 1861.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
Watch “Amazing Grace” (2006) and we can learn that the British abolitionists knew that slavery wasn’t on its own way out YET but because abolition is objectively on the side of angels, they sneakily passed a other bill that helped MAKE British slave trade less and leas sustainable, culminating in the Abolition of british slave trade by 1807.
@stevencass8849
@stevencass8849 5 месяцев назад
It was on its way out, but that’s the reason for all the southern filibusters in the 1850’s. They needed slavery to expand to preserve it. Lincoln was adamant that slavery would not be allowed to expand, because he saw, correctly, that if it did the south would be demanding Cuba and Mexico and Central American/South American states and nations.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 5 месяцев назад
@@stevencass8849 Which is a line in the film too: Lincoln tells Stevens if they both abolition and reconstruction then slavery will spread from American South to South America.
@jonathancummings6400
@jonathancummings6400 Год назад
There is evidence from before the Civil War that Lincoln was against slavery. He was for ending slavery. You have to be born in or near Springfield, Illinois, and grew up there. He was known to be against slavery even in his youth in the 1840's. Locally, passed down from people who knew him like Governor Oglesby, the only Illinois governor based in Decatur, Illinois. The Lincoln Museum in Springfield has rare older documents of people who knew him personally. The movie is more accurate than from the central Illinois perspective than the common but inaccurate belief he was only against slavery later in the war. His Mother's family, the Hanks, are still extant in Central Illinois, I know one of them, she owns a local company. Yes, actor Tom Hanks is part of that Hanks family.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 8 месяцев назад
2:25 To say Abraham Lincoln wasn't interested in slavery, that he was a moderate just shows your complete ignorance to his history. Lincoln grew up in a home with parents extremely opposed to slavery. "Early on in life," he gave countless public speeches raging against slavery. He wrote against it very strongly eloquently, and often. He was even voted out of office because of his radicalism. When an amendment was proposed, very early in his presidency to enshrine slavery in the constitution to keep the union intact (states began withdrawing before he even took the oath of office), he said he'd "rather go to his grave than sign it." His entire life he spoke eloquently and strongly slavery. Lincoln was NOT EVER wishy washy on the subject slavery, he wrote publicly, in he early 20s "if slavery is not evil, then nothing on this Earth is." It was his eloquence on the subject and zeal during the first year of the war that drew most of his base supporters! Lincoln PUSHED the abolition of slavery his whole life, and he paid for it.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
“If slavery is not evil…” ESPECIALLY in the purported “land of da free”. John Quincy Adams in “Amistad” agrees.
@ramontieso1208
@ramontieso1208 8 месяцев назад
The reason they are”playing games” when trying to get the amendment to pass is the same reason we play games today. Some people were definitely proslavery. Some people were definitely anti-slavery. And it’s the people in the middle that you have to appease. Too strong, and anti-slavery move will scare them to the other side. and Lincoln was never for slavery. He just knew better than to say he was going to free the slaves. I think he played his cards brilliantly.
@StephenLuke
@StephenLuke 8 месяцев назад
Lincoln (2012) is one of my favorite Civil War films ever made! Not to mention it’s distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures.
@couch.patati-patata
@couch.patati-patata Год назад
Did you know, Lincoln was a vampire slayer? He did it with his axe. The same one George Washington owned.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Год назад
Omg no, Lincoln was not black. He probably had Marfan Syndrome
@JamesASharp
@JamesASharp Год назад
Congratulations! You're literally the 2nd reactor that has reacted to this film. Great film. I recommend another great Spielberg gem for you to react to: Munich (2005). It was also nominated for Best Picture. Great reaction bro! 👍🏿
@ChoppersModelworks
@ChoppersModelworks Год назад
If you have not seen Stanley Kubrick's early film "Barry Lyndon" and you enjoy film making or even photography, you will enjoy it. They actually filmed some scenes purely by candlelight and special lenses barrowed from NASA!
@Drax514
@Drax514 Год назад
Yes, absolutely yes. For a guy with this kinda mind and eye for things, Barry Lyndon is an absolute must. "Every frame is a painting"
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 18 дней назад
@@Drax514 Yes, just like "The Searchers" from 1956.
@rebelleparrish4937
@rebelleparrish4937 Год назад
Love watching your history loving brain go through this with your cinematographers eye....a highlight while I'm cratetraining a new puppy. Thank God for one headphone in while she cries it out.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 9 месяцев назад
I was so luck when I got my puppy that was rescued off of a Target parking lot just a few hours before I got her. My female Chow taught her to (a) go out the dog door and (b) do your business on the grass and the lil wienerdog-mix pup learned it immediately. Kudos to you for doing the crate training.
@bonkyb8587
@bonkyb8587 8 месяцев назад
F14? F8, F11, F16. Kaminski shot the film on 1980s Pana SS lenses.
@jmsmys13ify
@jmsmys13ify Год назад
8:35 Politicians are free to "flip," or let their true feelings come out, whenever they're not up for reelection. Obama towed the line with gay marriage until his second term, and then was basically "I'm all for it." McCain was dying, and basically said "F-You" to Trump trying to throw out the Affordable Care act without a solid replacement. If he was in good health and up for reelection, I wonder how that may have gone.
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069 7 месяцев назад
"That is a lawyer's dodge!" It's almost as if Lincoln had been a lawyer for 20 years before he was president...
@tracyfrazier7440
@tracyfrazier7440 Год назад
Please watch videos that dispute the view that slavery was “on its way out.” I don’t think it was. If you are saying that over time the states that relied on slavery would be marginalized in National politics, we would like to think so.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
In “Amazing Grace” (2006) the British abolitionists had to sneakily pass a bill that helped take the British slave trade by the balls and suffocate it, paving the way to the trade abolition of 1807. Also, this is the “land of the free” we talking about. Just as Yoda says Palpatine’s rule would never be too short cuz it’s so evil, so is slavery in this of all nations.
@markeetafarmer541
@markeetafarmer541 Год назад
Republican Platform of 1856: Resolved: That the Constitution confers upon Congress sovereign powers over the Territories of the United States for their government; and that in the exercise of this power, it is both the right and the imperative duty of Congress to prohibit in the Territories those twin relics of barbarism - Polygamy, and Slavery.
@SnabbKassa
@SnabbKassa 11 месяцев назад
A newer version of the CRI, R96, has been developed, but it has not replaced the better-known Ra general color rendering index. Despite the high Ra CRI of candles, they are inadequate for even today's cameras. Lighting gaffers don't want to rely on them for light, however historically realistic they are. Dancing shadows and orange light won't give us clarity as to what is going on. A lot of this film is graded blue, and I don't think we see warm direct sunlight until the end in the open carriage. It's just meant to be cold, wintery and bleak.
@chrisplourde1690
@chrisplourde1690 Год назад
Thomas Reed, who was speaker of the house in the late 1800's, hurled some excellent insults while a member of congress. The only one I remember (and my favorite) is "Every word you speak subtracts from the sum total of human knowledge."
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 18 дней назад
Was Reed also the guy you said of Simon Cameron, Lincoln's first Secretary of War, that the only thing he wouldn't steal was a red hot stove?
@chrisplourde1690
@chrisplourde1690 18 дней назад
@@billolsen4360 Reed was decades after. That was Thaddeus Stevens, also known for his insults.
@steelkenshin
@steelkenshin Год назад
The lamps in the scenes historically would have probably been burning whale oil which is a burns whiter and brighter than kerosene, but still not as white as an led.
@jmsmys13ify
@jmsmys13ify Год назад
Since you're so interested in the historical facts surrounding Lincoln, maybe "Atun-Shei's Check-mate Lincolnites" videos would be a good watch.
@janeathome6643
@janeathome6643 6 месяцев назад
That commented about his father caving to his mother, and Lincoln's slap, actually happened at a White House dinner reception with many witnesses. And it 's more shocking because the Lincolns famously didn't use corporal punishment on their kids.
@chrisplourde1690
@chrisplourde1690 Год назад
1964 had some of the bloodiest battles of the war. The wilderness campaign was a meat grinder, a series of successive battles, each one a bloody harvest and cold harbor being the worst. And that is just one region of the war. So the following spring there was a great deal of pressure to end the war.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
Lincoln was PISSED when Gettysburg ended up a Union victory BUT Lee and the remainder of his men were allowed to escape back south.
@justinalicea1590
@justinalicea1590 5 месяцев назад
*1864
@allanmolina6073
@allanmolina6073 Год назад
Not alot of reactor react to this movie and it's amazing.
@iambecomepaul
@iambecomepaul 8 месяцев назад
Side note: “seafood” at that time was considered “poor people food.” Talk to the Irish about that. Weird, huh?
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
Largely because there was no refrigeration and so it’s very perishable.
@thedealer777
@thedealer777 3 месяца назад
It should be noted that the late Hal Holbrook, who played Francis Preston Blair (Famous 19th century American journalist, and advisor to several Republican presidents) also played Lincoln in the 1974 mini-series of the same name.
@VentiChristopher
@VentiChristopher Год назад
This movie was based on the book “Team of Rivals”, I happen to be listening to it on Audible, it’s very good!
@dsgp7835
@dsgp7835 4 месяца назад
Brilliant movie! The cast was top notch and all gave their best performances in this movie. The scenes with Daniel Day Lewis and Sally Fields were stunning, two icons facing off and performing some of the best scenes in movie history. Brilliant movie!
@KThyme
@KThyme 6 месяцев назад
You say "all the other studies" but there are in fact many documents from the time including letters from Lincoln that demonstrate he was opposed to slavery--the issue was more that when he was younger he accepted it as part of the world he lived in and didn't think it could be changed. The idea that he liked it or felt it necessary seems much more of a stretch.
@robskitlz4391
@robskitlz4391 Год назад
@MRBOYDMOVIEREVIEWS The screenplay by Tony Kushner was loosely based on Doris Kearns Goodwin's 2005 biography Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, and covers the final four months of Lincoln's life, focusing on his efforts in January 1865 to abolish slavery and involuntary servitude by having the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution passed by the United States House of Representatives.
@2Fangirl
@2Fangirl 10 месяцев назад
I love how Lincoln basically tricked them into rejoining the Union and giving up their slaves. He did it so quickly they were hit with a shockwave. They never saw it coming.
@WLDB
@WLDB Год назад
This was based off Team of Rivals. Though a small section of it. I wish someone like HBO would adapt the whole thing, it’d be great.
@bfdidc6604
@bfdidc6604 11 месяцев назад
A friend of mine was an extra in this film. When another friend and I went to the movie, we kept an eye out for him. Knowing he was a guy with a big beard did not narrow it down much when we were looking for him in the film.
@lilfloppa9030
@lilfloppa9030 10 месяцев назад
Thank goodness someone finally reacted to this great movie. Even better that you are a history buff. I would like to praise your keen eye and insane talent for yapping on and on about every little lighting and filming detail. Also, your history yammer certainly is interesting, interestingly naive, but interesting nonetheless. Truly one of the reaction videos of all time. 🔥🌲🔥🌳🔥🌲🔥 (bush)fire video bro!
@zavionhill24
@zavionhill24 Год назад
Fun fact : Thaddeus Stevens was called "Radical" & "Commoner" because he fought for racial justice and abolishing of slavery. He was married to a free black woman , grew up poor , and had a disability called "clubfoot" which is why he walked with a cane .
@RobertRoser-h7c
@RobertRoser-h7c 6 месяцев назад
Fernando Wood had been the mayor of New York city. The only other film I've seen with the actor playing Wood was one about the murder of a soldier at Ft Knox. He played a transgender actress.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 18 дней назад
As I understand it, Fernando Wood was an absolutely awful, insincere, crooked man.
@ciaranconlon84
@ciaranconlon84 Год назад
Went to see this in theatre with a friend. Almost two hours in he leans over and says "This is fucking bullshit, where are all the vampires?" He thought we were going to the 'other' Abraham Lincoln movie released in 2012!
@ThistleAndSea
@ThistleAndSea Год назад
LOL!
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
@@ThistleAndSeaConsidering that the title did pop up in the beginning…
@ThistleAndSea
@ThistleAndSea 6 месяцев назад
@@davidw.2791 I used to be a teacher, and after watching this one with my students and discussing it, we would always follow it up with the vampire version, LOL!
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
@@ThistleAndSea I would like to know, does Vampire Hunter Abe still die in 1865? 😖
@janeathome6643
@janeathome6643 6 месяцев назад
Black men got the vote long before women got the vote (always noting that for black men in the post-Reconstruction Era South, it enfranchisement in name only).
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
Black men getting the vote would just be “evening the scales” because white men were free and had the vote. It’d be unfair to not give women the vote but it’s less of a blatant hypocrisy.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Год назад
Thaddeus Stevens is from, and buried in, my hometown of Lancaster, PA. I try to get there at least once a year. Same with John Reynolds, who saved the entire Battle of Gettysburg and died there. He was Lancaster's finest citizen in opinion.
@WhodatLucy
@WhodatLucy 5 месяцев назад
Kushner told Dave Davies of NPR that he read approximately 20 books on the subject. But former Slate writer Timothy Noah, now at The New Republic, has suggested that Michael Vorenberg’s 2001 book Final Freedom: The Civil War, the Abolition of Slavery, and the Thirteenth Amendment was likely the major source for Kushner’s script-which, he told me in an email, he considers “superb,” “deeply researched and well-crafted.” When Vorenberg’s book was first published, several reviews praised it as the most comprehensive look to date at the debate and passage of the 13th Amendment, which is the focus of Lincoln. Goodwin’s book, while also widely praised, has a much broader focus, considering the entire Civil War and the policies Lincoln pursued in its course, and dwelling in particular on the lives of Lincoln and his cabinet members (the “team” of the title), as well as their wives.
@WhodatLucy
@WhodatLucy 5 месяцев назад
LINCOLN, Steven Spielberg's epic film starring Daniel Day-Lewis, was filmed entirely in Virginia at sites in Richmond and Petersburg. Walk in the footsteps of the cast and crew on a self-guided trail featuring actual filming locations as well as restaurants, bars and shops that were favourites of the stars.
@verygood7698
@verygood7698 5 месяцев назад
The source material is quite accurate. Lincoln was middling with his public stances on slavery at his very worst up until 1862-1863, but he was never an out and out friend of it in public in the proceeding years. But that was the same for every mainstream politician. He was deeply aggrieved by slavery, and detested it privately and personally, especially as he grew older. People cite the Horace Greeley quote ("If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that") as somehow proof that Lincoln approved of slavery, but it's not as simple as that, people focus only on the first part, but ignore the rest of the quote, and therefore sidestep the political reality of the mid 19th century in the United States. Lincoln had to moderate himself -- abolition, even leading up to the events portrayed in this movie, was considered an extreme position. Up until the war, he didn't believe (as many people did at the time) that it could be abolished. At some point, roughly 1862-1863, he understood that even if the North "won" the war, if slavery was not extinguished, there would be more war. It took a considerable amount of political courage, will, and calculation to bring abolition into the mainstream. So, it's not quite correct to say that Lincoln approved to slavery only until the very end of the war and his life (which is the same period that this film covers) -- because he didn't, he didn't approve of it, and to be fair, he was not a fire breathing opponent of it either. Lincoln only publicly advocated for the end of the slavery "near the end" because that was the only time that he could, and still effect change. I mean, it's easy to look back with 21st century eyes in judgement, but the reality of the situation was that for the dance he had to do to engineer the passage of abolition, alone , if you don't consider Abraham Lincoln the greatest US President to ever live, he's in the top three, at least in any credible historian's calculations.
@theroachden6195
@theroachden6195 5 месяцев назад
Lincoln was against slavery but the aim of the war was to oreserve the Union. The Union was losing in the Eastern theater and he was scared if he made it about slavery the border States would side with the Confederacy. The tide if the war changed after Antiteam and he used that as a chance to make it about slavery. Making it about slavery also ensured that European powers would NOT side with the Confederacy. Especially Great Britian who were major traders with Southern States. But Lincoln was ALWAYS anti slavery, he was just an Emqcipationiat, not an Abolishinest.
@JeffreyCantelope
@JeffreyCantelope 6 месяцев назад
The screenplay by Tony Kushner was loosely based on Doris Kearns Goodwin's 2005 biography Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln,
@AyanTheAlien
@AyanTheAlien 3 месяца назад
Bro is talking about the lighting of the movie as if he knows better than Stephen Spielberg on how to light a movie. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And fyi, there was no artificial light used in the movie. Danial Day Lewis does not work like that. He did not even let the cast wear modern sports shoes to come to the set, did not let them wear modern casual clothing on set, did not let anyone use paper cups either, it had to be any kind of porcelain cup or steel cups. Everything on set was period accurate.
@afinch5078
@afinch5078 8 месяцев назад
Team of Rivals is amazing. A highly recommended read. While the script focused on the final months of his Presidency, the book was phenomenal. Spielberg bought the rights I believe before it was published.
@WhodatLucy
@WhodatLucy 5 месяцев назад
If slavery isn’t wrong, I don’t know what is..,Lincoln said this after seeing a slave market in New Orleans even after being attacked on the Mississippi by African Americans
@stevencass8849
@stevencass8849 5 месяцев назад
Lincoln actually has no living direct descendants. His last grandson died in the 1980’s, I believe, without any heirs.
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 8 месяцев назад
You have such a beautiful voice. I have heard Lincoln was high and squeaky ... good they didn't have TV back then.
@Detwhat
@Detwhat 4 месяца назад
Im told the sorce material comes from a huge book called "team of rivals." I bought it a few months ago and im half way through it. Its a very long read.
@Detwhat
@Detwhat 4 месяца назад
He was a abolitionist. He hated slavery. But if he ran on just ending slavery he would've lost.
@leeconway1000
@leeconway1000 Год назад
Wow a movie of by and for adults. Damn.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Год назад
To this day, there's a Confederate enclave community in Brazil
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 6 месяцев назад
Ironic as Brazil ended their slavery with the help of their goddamn EMPEROR who even accepted the loss of his throne as a necessarily price when the coup happened.
@patriciadurr7245
@patriciadurr7245 5 месяцев назад
I don't want to go back speaking like that. Everyone has their own speech
@RobertRoser-h7c
@RobertRoser-h7c 6 месяцев назад
Lincoln was a political genius. Needed to take one step at a time so it would be eventually become a reality.
@johnherr4196
@johnherr4196 4 месяца назад
I just watched the movie "Logical"
@jonv8177
@jonv8177 Год назад
The main source for this movie is the book "Team of Rivals" by Doris Kearns Goodwin. Its about the struggle to pass the 13th Ammendment
@CJ87317
@CJ87317 8 месяцев назад
That was the jumping off point, but I saw an interview with the screenwriter. He said he read something like 30 books on Lincoln and took bits from all of them.
@Duncan_Idaho84
@Duncan_Idaho84 Год назад
Are we supposed to watch this and be captivated? There are so few reactions to this movie and this isn’t a reaction it’s a demolition.
@taylorkelly8915
@taylorkelly8915 5 месяцев назад
Liked and subscribed
@EricVoegelin
@EricVoegelin 7 месяцев назад
This guy is ignorant.
@guardianforever4948
@guardianforever4948 7 месяцев назад
In summary, my high school librarian who was also an historian and Civil War bluff, told us Lincoln was against slavery morally but did not come out against its abolition until the potential to economically devastate the South became obvious and the military ramifications followed.
@chrisplourde1690
@chrisplourde1690 Год назад
I would love to go back to speaking that way, so much more subtle, layers of meaning and clever irony......not to wax pedantic...
@mikess314
@mikess314 Год назад
Do you notice when science popularists like Neil Degrasse Tyson or Bill Nye make videos where they tear a movie apart because a galaxy was spinning in the wrong direction or an object was entering the atmosphere faster than it should? Do you ever notice how despite being correct, most of us consider them sanctimonious, nitpicky, and devoid of the spirit of an honest review? No, clearly not based on your “reaction“.
@waynedugger7697
@waynedugger7697 10 месяцев назад
It was about slavery.. to the higher ups in the confederacy.. but to the normal not rich 95% of people who didn't own slaves, it really didn't matter. It was about a one nation ruling federal government. Which was what they just fought against in the revolution. They looked at it like the English king having government they just defeated to earn their independence. They wanted states to rule each other, not a federal government. Naturally there were racist thinking people that did care. But general Lee and Jackson and others were quoted as saying they didn't care one way or another about if slavery existed or not. And had slaves but treated them like family. But if they fought against their state, then they would be fighting friends and family. And also didn't want a federal government
@chrisplourde1690
@chrisplourde1690 Год назад
Also Lincoln never liked slavery but ran on not touching slavery in the south but he was opposed to it spreading.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
He was strongly against it his *whole* *life*, made lots of fiery speeches against it. He sometimes moderated his public position while running for office (though that didn't quite work, he was voted out as a Senator based on his opposition to slavery), but his family and Lincoln himself was always a vehement opponent of slavery, since witnessing it as a young child.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead Год назад
Has he done Glory?
@omalleycaboose5937
@omalleycaboose5937 Год назад
my main gripe with this film, and its a great movie, is Mrs lincoln being shown as supportive emotionally to Lincoln and not borderline abusive to him
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
I think you're just a hater.
@omalleycaboose5937
@omalleycaboose5937 7 месяцев назад
@@Christobanistan I love the film, I don't hate the film cause this one thing reading this back it seems to imply that which was not my intent, however it is something that bothers me when I watch, like she would chase him around the white house with a knife, she would throw fits over the smallest of slights, Grant's wife hated her, She worked in secret with yhe white house Gardner to defraud the government of money, and she was abusive to him long before what people hand wave her behavior as just grief over her son, she wasn't a very good partner at all, tho she did support his career I ways where he probably wouldn't have been president without her. So it's good for the nation she was his wife. But she was not a good wife
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
@@omalleycaboose5937 Like her, I, too, have a great deal of chronic pain (she had constant, severe migraines), and I've been known to lash out, though normally I'm an exceptionally nice person. If someone wrote historical notes about me based on a few anecdotes, what I'm like at my worst and the opinions of people who didn't really know me, I am sure they could make me look awful, especially if that's what catches the attention. People can be cruel toward those of us with constant, severe pain because they just don't get how thoroughly it changes your personality, no matter how hard you try to remain normal. If you want to understand it, think of the last time you really stubbed your toe hard, that instant, searing pain, and how you lashed out. Now imagine that happening all the time and no one else can see it. You'd look like an asshole, especially when people immediately blame you, with unfeeling comments like "I know it hurts, but you can remain civil." No, we can't, not anymore than you can avoid lashing out after that stubbing that toe.
@anthonybarnes6298
@anthonybarnes6298 Год назад
I like watching your reactions but, you are a bit nitpicky when it comes to lighting and cinematography.
@SwampmasterZ
@SwampmasterZ Год назад
I looked forward to this movie very much , and when i saw it , i was very disappointed
@patrick-qs8gn
@patrick-qs8gn 8 месяцев назад
please do your homework!! this movie was based on fact , right down to the pocket watch.. this is just one segment of his life.. just one. not his entire life, just shut up for a minute
@patrick-qs8gn
@patrick-qs8gn 5 месяцев назад
BEING A BLACK MAN , YOU MISSED THIS BY A MILE BRO !!!
@patrick-qs8gn
@patrick-qs8gn 8 месяцев назад
omg!!! next time do your research
@davidfrehler1299
@davidfrehler1299 Год назад
Seriously? You are judging the creative standards of Steven Spielberg's lighting designer? What credentials do you have to mouth off like that? Have you even done so much as lighting design for a middle school play? So, I'm 6 minutes into your masterful presentation, and you have claimed superior knowledge of history and lighting tech to a collection of Oscar level film makers. Where is your film making masterpiece? Do you honestly believe Daniel Day Lewis would even step on the set of a film as poorly research as you insist this film is?
@mmustafamalik84
@mmustafamalik84 Год назад
The film is made for entertainment not fact . They exist to sell you a perceivable version of what happened not the actual truth, As is lighting its made to make it look pretty not represent how authentic life looks take a picture from your phone and tell me that it looks exactly like real life. His critiques don't take away from the film at all and are very fair . You feeling to utterly outraged over something so minor shows that you stand for nothing and have small dick energy. This is a sign get a life
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, and his super confident proclamation that Lincoln only opposed slavery late in the war, and was mostly indifferent before that. What ahistorical nonsense. BUT HE READ A BOOK!! :D EDIT: Also HE WEARS GLASSES!! Must be smart!
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