Lincoln V12 engine families 448, 382, 414, ( zephyr ) 267, 292, 306 

Thank you for this info! Dave...

I'll just add, for anyone who wants to look it up, the original song by Charlie Ryan was called 'Hot Rod Race" and it depicted the hot rod Lincoln racing against a Mercury.

@@livewire2759 As near as I can tell "Hot Rod Race" was a number one hit in 1950 by Arkie Shibley and his mountain dew boys. He races a Mercury out of San Pedro.

@@livewire2759 Further research tells me that, "Hot Rod Lincoln" was written and released in 1955 by Charlie Ryan, as Hot Rod Lincoln. It was part two to the story of "Hot Rod Race" realeased in 1950 by Arkie Shibley.

@@livewire2759 A final detail I discovered; at the end of the hot rod Race song, they were passed by a souped up model A. In the "Hot Rod Lincoln* song. The line is I was driving that Model A. That passed the Ford, and Mercury in the Hot rod Race song.

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The Big 12s, both of them, were fine engines. They didn't have as much power as the Packard and Pierce-Arrow V12s, but they weren't as big either.

Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the car =) I got to review one for the channel that had a flathead v8 instead of the 12

There was no Zephyr in 34.

Hey Dave glad you dig this video. Yeah there was personal luxury cars before totally agree

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Yes very true thank you so much for sharing that =) I wonder how much the lycoming vibrates

@@What.its.like. I've seen one running in an Auburn, and it does give some stress to the motor mounts.

Next year I want to get into some power players like Duesenberg and try to do some auburns I would love to cover at least one Bugatti next year Delahaye

@@What.its.like. Great plan! I'll be starting the next phase of my channel later next year- the cars of world war I.

They made them for both, more power and more smoothness/silence. The Packard V12 made 165 horsepower in 1932, soon 175 horses. The Cadillac V16 made 165 horsepower, then 185 horses. The Lincoln Big 12s made 150 horsepower. Those figures were among the highest horsepower of any stock unmodified cars when they were new.

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Yeah I should make that a part of the episode going forward =) More than likely would have to use peoples footage and I don’t know what the legality is of that I’ll have to look into that I know there’s other RU-vid channels that use other peoples footage

Sweet choices =) I was worried with this one because information on first group of engines was hard to get information for the second group was easy

Yes Henry Leland took over the first ford motor company it was nasty Great choices

Actually, it was Henry Ford's 2nd attempt to start a company... Ford and his investors had a falling out within months of their startup. Ford believed the emphasis should be on more affordable cars and started Ford Motor Company in 1903 to pursue that goal. His partners favored a more premium approach which was the conventional wisdom in 1901-02. Lelyland, an engineer replaced Ford and the enterprise was reorganized as Cadillac which became a successful luxury brand, purchased by General Motors in 1909. Lelyland would go on to start another luxury car producer naming it Lincoln. Initially successful, Lincoln struggled financially and was at risk of failure. Very wealthy and encouraged by his wife Clara and son Edsel, Henry Ford took a certain degree of pleasure in buying Lincoln for less than Leyland's asking price in 1922.

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Great points Awesome choices fun fact Lincoln started that design Mercedes-Benz took it.. look at the 37 Lincoln looks like a cedes but the cedes it looks like comes after the Lincoln it’s interesting

Sweet choice Song was hot rod Lincoln commander Cody

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I was hoping for offers y’all had one laying out back I can pick up and take

Sweet choices =) I hate when that happens

You bet I’m not going to alienate an audience because we use a different system of measurement I do draw the line however at kilowatt I’m not going to put kilowatt up there because I don’t think electric cars are going to be around forever.. it’s just a fad car just like it was at the turn of the last century..

Glad you dig this episode all very good points =)

Someone just got it it was Commander Cody hot Rod Lincoln I can’t believe I was able to make that song that sound like that song it’s a very distinctive song

Yeah I thought that but it seemed obvious, rockabilly stuff has intro like cash, keep it going I love this channel

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Interesting

It may not have reached 129 MPH, but the car was fairly light, so yes, it was a pretty quick car. The redesigned 1940 model was heavier, so it was a good thing it's engine was bigger.

Awe man awesome thank you so much for filling in those blanks Out of curiosity where are you located would love to feature that car on the channel ( sorry if this is to direct ) lol

@@What.its.like. I'm near Akron Ohio. I also have a RU-vid channel and have a couple of videos about my Lincoln as well as my other cars. Here's a link to the video on my 42 Lincoln Continental. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tpra2r0-zgo.htmlsi=CWEwHx7Gb9LkztXG

Sweet did you put her away for the year yet if your up for it I’d love to feature it Here is my email What_its_like@yahoo.com

That Liquamatic was replaced with stick/overdrive, but the 305/306 V12 was not replaced, rather, early in the 46 model year the bore was returned to the 292 size, as the 305 version left the cylinder walls too thin - due to core shift, you often couldn't re-bore it while rebuilding it.

@@jamesbosworth4191 Ford bought back all of the Liquimatic V12s. The reason was the bell housing cast into the block was unique to the Liquimatic only and not interchangeable with the regular manual transmission. All Lincoln Liquimatic cars were supposed to be fit with a new V12 block, and matching manual transmission with overdrive and new torque tube. Also included in the kit was the glove box emblem that simply said Lincoln instead of Lincoln Liquimatic Drive. There were only 24 305 Liquimatic blocks released. Ford made about 300 adapter plates for the Mercury Liquimatic blocks of 400. They made every attempt to erase this transmission from history and today there is only one known Liquimatic transmission to exist. It's still bolted to a Mercury V8 and resides in the Early V8 Ford museum in Auburn Indiana. I have a 1942 Lincoln Continental coupe which was one of them. It still has the Liquimatic badg and is confirmed through the Ford museum archives as one of those cars

I know right.. that zephyr v12 had small pistons and was just small over all 4.4L that’s crazy

@@What.its.like. Certain Ferrari and Lamborghini V12s have small bores like that.

Strikes me as odd that they would choose 65 and late 75 degrees as bank angles. Doesn't 60 degrees make more sense geometrically for V12 engines?

@@billyjoejimbob56 It's one of life's great mysteries I guess.

@@What.its.like. The 30s version was 267 Cubic Inches, and the 40s version was either 292 cubes or 305 cubes. Small for a V12.

Yeah i have no idea why they chose that angle

www.conceptcarz.com/s11772/lincoln-model-kb.aspx

Not really familiar with the Big 12s, either of them, but the small Zephyr V12 had the exhaust manifolds on the outside of the V.

Sweet choices =) I was really bummed the lack of information on the model K V12

Millimeter for bore and stroke sizes listed there as well I just don’t say it

He DOES use metrics for all specs.

They are printed, but they are not announced (except horsepower, which should be reported in KW to be consistent). It seems very odd to me to announce only the torque specs using both the metric system and US system. It breaks up the continuity of delivery without adding any benefit.@@jamesbosworth4191

Awesome thank you so much for that correction

Great guess not that song or band

Thank you so much for sharing all of that insight and information I greatly appreciate it I was really bummed that I could not find that much information on the model K V12 i’m usually very good at finding manuals that explain stuff manuals don’t exist for that or at least I couldn’t find any and it was disappointing.

@@What.its.like. Manuals for the big V12s do exist, but you might have to Save A Search for them on E-Bay, as most of the book stores we used to have and enjoy are all gone, and the chains that replaced them have no interest in shop manuals for older cars, only late-model Japanese cars. Keep in mind though that E-Bay's Saved Search feature is not all that good. You will get E-Mails for shop manuals for engines other that what you saved a search for.

Some wags said it was two 60 horse Ford 6 cyl bolted together, causing twice as much trouble as two Ford 6s.

Yeah as Bill just said from vintage car history war cylinders didn’t equal more power it equals more smoothness The model key engine is the better of the 2V 12s it doesn’t have any of the issues the later one has

I was very surprised by the low compression as well I would have bet around the 8:1 sort of mark

That was not low compression for that era. Remember, there was no 100 octane automotive fuel back then, just like there was none in the 70s, 80s, or 90s. That kind of fuel was available only from the mid 50s - the beginning of the 70s.

@@What.its.like. More cylinders may not mean more power, but it does usually more more cubic inches, and more cubic inches means more power. Period.

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The original 267 version of the small H series engine and the 1940 - 41 292 version. They suffered from weak connecting rod caps, small oil passages, poor cooling, and an undersized oil pump. The 1942 and 46 - 48 engines were better.

Great guess it’s not that song or band

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Not that band.. I thought the song was easy lol

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Yeah I have no idea why they went to less main bearings I guess cheaper to build but I totally agree with you

@@What.its.like. yes, why bother with all this "V12" thing and then make it cheap? Marketing maybe, V12 under the hood is cool. But better they'd make some good inline 6, with 7 main bearings, DOHC, that could rev high and make good horsepower

V-type engines usually have two con rod journals between main bearings... 5 mains in V8 engines, 4 mains in V6s... and even in some I-6s like the Mopar slant 6. The second generation Flat-head V12 with just 4 mains, clearly was based heavily on the Ford Flat-head V8, which had only 3 mains.

@@dima343.Luxury cars were never about high revs, they were about lots of low-end torque. If they had a lot of horsepower, it was because they had lots of cubic inches, not because they revved high.

@@jamesbosworth4191 Okay, but still 7 main bearings better than 4, more equal load distribution, longer engine life. What irritates me, they first made normal engine with 7 main bearings (and more powerful), ant then made cheaper version, maybe more convenient to mass produce, but inferior in design. They thought customers are dumb and wouldn't notice

I know it’s weird right if you look at the flathead Ford V-8 design it only has three exhaust ports and a lot of companies mimic that for years like the two cylinders in the middle shared the same exhaust port why they didn’t each get their own from the beginning is beyond me

Sweet choices the 37, Mercedes took that look from Lincoln

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Sweet I think the choices would be hard they’re all gorgeous cars

I totally agree if you were to guess which song and which artist

@@What.its.like. Well, I'd have to go with the most popular version, but someone else already mentioned it... 'Hot Rod Lincoln' by Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen.

It was hot Rod Lincoln by Commander Cody I gave credit to someone else who didn’t directly say it was hot Rod Lincoln but he had a bunch of Music trivia about that song so I thought he was implying that was his guess so I gave it to him

Definitely going to cover that on here one day not entirely sure when though

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Wasn't the 56 - 57 just an enlarged 317? I agree about the replacing the Hydramatic with Turbo Drive. Very bad move, not only was it unreliable, it hurt performance, and performance had been that era Lincoln's strong point.

The zephyr v12 pretty much so

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AMEN! I for one am sick and tired of this forcing of metrics on us. I don't care what the Germans and the Japanese want. WE won the war. THEY LOST.

This show is featured worldwide it would be a huge disservice to the people seeing it in foreign countries that didn’t have the metric equivalent with that said not doing kilowatt

Imperial measure is sheer genius. Metric is decimal. Imperial configures to time and base 2 substrate. I have the quants', but they're proprietary. I'll keep them -- A DOD clearance level in tactical and strategic application potential. It is astounding how clueless textbook academics are about certain dynamics within existential reality... status quo

@@What.its.like. There is nothing wrong with showing the metric equivalents, but there is MUCH wrong with more and more showing the metric measurements first, and as is starting to show up nowadays, ONLY the metric measurements. DO NOT DO THAT TO US! You are Americans, so we American viewers should be at least equal to foreigners, not an afterthought.

Welcome to the 21st century. ‘America” covers two continents. Go back to using libraries if you can’t deal with it, pumpkin.