Linda Murphrey - April 5, 2012 

joseph farrell... what do you think about the bob jones sr college one of my pastors went to hyles church as well its hard sometimes to know who is good or bad.... i was a member of an independent baptist church just like 80 percent of the so called tv evangelist are crooked

​@@gfinnstrom100% of tv evangelists are snakes

Your church is very fortunate to have a pastor like your pastor.

Agreed! There are always bad apples but there are many, many who are the exception who do right and I praise God for that!

Good for you

Well praise the Lord he moved you on from there. God bless you with this beautiful truth/Jesus message www.fireandhammer.com/fifty_reasons_why.htm

My former pastor, Steven Froelke (I'm sure you know the name as he was a toady of Hyles and new sits on the board at HAC and is a deacon I believe at FBC now) was and is an insider as our church was an extension of FBC. Looking back on my childhood years, I can't believe I didn't see the nonsense that went on being around Hyles and Froelke so often. I didn't believe it until a good friend of mine who was a student was assaulted on campus for leaving without permission to purchase medication when he was sick. I can't believe I wanted to go to college there "to find a husband"....What nonsense I was taught! Thankfully, my break wasn't nearly as traumatic as Linda's...

*Stacy* A "toady"? Either way, Steve Froelke is not on any "board"...not sure what you meant by that...and an "insider"? Victory Baptist was no "extension" of FBC Hammond(???). You've now thrown out *FOUR* words/terms that really make little to no sense. Lastly, you make reference to some sort of "nonsense". Forgive me, but what you've said holds little to no water, *AND* you didn't believe "IT" which means what? *SMH*

@James Dare Don't take *ME* wrong, but exactly what "accusations" in particular do you declare to be false? The mentality (at least used to be), was that if you didn't *SEE* it happen, then it *DIDN'T* happen. Blind loyalty was a basic tenant that flowed from *HAC* and *FBCH* . Did all do so? No, but it was woven into the hearts and minds of the students, & overflowed to the congregants as a whole at FBCH.

I was also there in 1989.

I once did, from '87--'91, here in my hometown. I had previously attended a small IFB church overseas in the military that was quite nice, but the larger one here was the typical "pastor is infallible" type, and among other things, I got real tired of the browbeating, etc. I just up and left, and it was like I'd left a cult. When I encountered the asst. pastor in a store one day, he didn't even talk to me. Ran into the treasurer another time, and he asked where I'd been...No "Are you OK?" or anything, just wanted an explanation. Phoniest bunch of jerks, that's what they were.

@Ric McGuire I know this for a fact. I came from New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc., and that is exactly what they do, they worship the man and not Jesus.

Was the Pastor after Jack Schaap, Pastor Wilkerson, as bad as Hyles do you think? He comes across more mild.....

@@ashlieleavelle Wilkerson is a polar opposite from the videos I’ve watched. More charismatic than baptist. I’m a member of a fundamental baptist church whose focus is Christ; not the pastor. I do miss the old time hellfire and damnation preaching along with the stricter standards, but man worship has no place in any church.

So glad you left! People need to understand HAC and the Baptist church are a cult!

DavidBruce Allen or because your a man trying to sit next to his lil girl...

I also left one...it was over thirty years ago, and I never looked back.

You are in a dream world because you did not go through what we went through at that church. That church destroyed our family. This was not just a sad experience. It was demonic. My father was the first graduating president of Hyles Anderson College. I went to high school with Linda. I can tell you stories for hours.

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Wow! You were there for 6 years? My best friend was at HAC for a semester, and I was there for 2 years ('83; '84). We still talk about our experience and how it still has an affect on our lives 40 years later. I finally left when my door room leader exposed to me how people get caught with magazines, books and music. They're told to go through our dresser drawers and personal items.

@@Thomas1701E yes I know talk about invasion of privacy

@@Thomas1701E thank you so very much for your input

She won't respond. This was a hit piece. And you bit.

I was saved in an IFB church. I was grounded in the Word of God in an IFB church. I went to IFB camps. Took my kids to IFB church and camps. Atttended IFB College. I dearly LOVE brother Hyles. I DO NOT WORSHIP JACK HYLES. I'm so broken hearted to see (feel) the hatred oozing through many of these posts. There are no perfect pastors or churches. I AM NOT IN ANY WAY CONDONING BROTHER HYLES SIN (IF, IF, IF , IF) he is guilty. If you say I am, you are wrong. Sin is sin no matter who is committing it. I spent hours counseling David Hyles. I saw him weep. I spoke with his wife of 30 years much of that time. That boy has paid dearly for his sin. Let me leave you with this thought. (Again I AM NOT CONDONING ANYBODY'S SIN). Consider the sweet psalmist of Israel. He had an affair (committed adultery) with the wife of one of his mighty me while he was on the battlefield defending David's kingdom. He tried to cover his sin and when that didn't work, he had Uriah the Hittite murdered on the battlefield. Man THIS GUY WAS A DIRT BAG! I wouldn't want to read ANYTHING this guy had to say! Yet, yet, yet, yet... JESUS was referred to as "The son of David" and didn't object!

I could not agree with you more. Thanks for posting this.

Amen. Hyles has done more harm then good to not only the Faith but also the I.F.B. I hope he repented of his sins before he died, otherwise you can be sure he busted Hell wide open.

judge of what explain instead of a blanket comment going no where

Lucid Light We are also supposed to expose the evil works of darkness. The elders or other people of the church are supposed to go to the offender first, then take two or three others to him, then if that didn’t work to the church. None of this happened. If one did confront Hyles they were then ridiculed and attacked.

@@heavenlyguitar5913 Right - of darkness. But too many disgruntled wanted to hurt Jack Hyles. They blamed him for their failures. There's a right way and a wrong way to expose sin. FIRST, there must be two or three witnesses. That probably never happened. If there was sin and no witnesses, then we have to trust God who is the avenger of those who have suffered injustice. I never saw evidence that God was judging Jack Hyles. Therefore, I discount all the rumors. I must if I am going to be just. The damage to the cause of Christ caused by the disgruntled people who believed rumors and spread them is FAR greater than the damage that would have occurred if Jack Hyles had indeed committed adultery and had gotten caught and punished!

James Dare Look up all the news reports that were done on Hyles and the number of his preachers and “bus ministry” workers that went to prison for molesting kids.

@@heavenlyguitar5913 We'll see either your record of sins on judgment day, or not much that will survive the trial by fire of your works at the judgment seat of Christ.

My family was destroyed at this church. Many families were destroyed.

no, but same circles. Linda refers to the First Baptist Church of Hammond, Fairhaven Baptist Church is in Chesterton.

Praise God least he tried. For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief. Proverbs 24:16

Mine too, my x pastor now has a huge photo of himself with his arm around Jack hyles, he also was trained by hyles and two of the deacons also, he always idolizes hyles in his preaching, sicken, I've left after two and half year's , sad!

*Stacy* I can't speak for her, & s/one can correct me if I'm wrong, but I had heard (read online), that she does not attend church a/where. So many people once they get wrapped up in an organization that has been toxic, come away very disillusioned and walk away from it all, altogether.

@@Kman. very sad. God is still real!

This video had an impact on thousands of people - including myself - who went to HAC or was part of FBC. Though this was therapeutic for Linda, she went right back into seclusion, and never fully offered any details of the "cult" she was freed from. I can assure you that she reads all the posts, even though she has remained reclusive since this video was posted 12 years ago.

I’m sorry. That man is a demon.

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God bless you www.fireandhammer.com/fifty_reasons_why.htm

Not only is David Hyles a serial adulterer, he's also likely a child killer.

His son is much more evil.

Hey, Michael, still going for God? I think I know you. God bless you, brother!

That's a copout and a deflection from the issue discussed.

She is probably not even saved. Just because your a preacher's kid does not make you saved. There are so many lies from Great men of God and great people in general. Like KIng James in England. I pray she does get saved Amen.

I don't think she would care what her father would say to her if he was still alive....she has broken free from his atrocities.

Give it a rest will you?? This information is important to be dispensed. I attended HAC back in 1986 and I can tell you that place is a cult. Most religion is.

Why?

I think you're right. Cult leaders tend to be traumatizing narcissists.

He didn’t suffer with it. He made everyone else suffer with it.

Rachel Briggs

Selling blankets are you?

Rapture Angel it’s also common knowledge that Jesuits world infiltrate churches and try to tear them down by making the Pastor look bad or putting people in the church to destroy the credibility of the church and its leaders. Don’t believe me listen to former Jesuit priest Alberto Rivera who exposed them until they poisoned him in 1997.

how do you know satanists didn't give Hyles good press to make him look like a good guy?

@@allenfsanchez9572 if the press made him, tell them to make another Jack Hyles.

He is still the most feared by them. His sermons are still being played on Radio broadcasts and right here on the internet. They gonna be in shock when they see ol Jack Hyles riding down out of heaven on a white horse during Armageddon with the rest of the saints. Oh yeah, out in front of those galloping horses will be King Jesus!

@@allenfsanchez9572 SMH, The press was his enemy. Man, are you blind!

Early Day- You don't even know what you are talking about. I went to the college. As a student, I served at that college. If you only lived on campus as I did, you would understand. I learned very little about the word of God.... and everything about the philosophy of Jack Hyles. It was mind control and I am thankful to have been able to walk away from that cult. Linda Murphrey needed to not only expose the mess she had endured but also to warn people not to blindly follow men. Imagine how painful her life was. And- what of her brother, Dave Hyles, that followed his dad's shadow into secret sin and mind control? In fact, I am close to a woman that Dave Hyles used and almost destroyed her life. Finally, what of his daughter Cindy? She married the successor of Hyles Anderson College; Jack Schaap. Mr. Schaap is still serving a prison term sentence for his sexual crimes against a minor student at Hyles Anderson College. You have no idea what you are talking about Early Day. Mrs. Murphey scratches the surface of the private sins she endured. Yet, there were many public sins that so many endured from this cult. I am thankful for her testimony and I hope she is well.

@@davidlynn5385 "I went to the college." As if that makes you an authority? Thousands attended that college. Many drank koolaid, but it was not offered by Jack Hyles; it was offered by Satan who used people's misunderstanding of what God was doing THROUGH Jack Hyles. Those who were looking out for themselves clearly drank the koolaid. Those who were devoted to God and His Word and genuinely winning others to Christ, received many a blessing. I received over twenty years of blessings. I still go soul winning. I have not gone liberal or changed in any way, other than a mature understanding of the frailties of man, and have gained a LOT of forbearance, longsuffering and patience - even for those who were misguided by Satan and their own misunderstandings. The one thing I don't do that I was trained to do is I don't do a lot of promotion. I don't see that in scripture. But doctrinally, I am the same - well, actually stronger, but with a patience that one does not have the luxury to experience much of in a high pressure training ground for strong preachers.

@@libertypastor1307 Well Pastor Liberty, if you had a different experience at the college...good for you! But, I assure you that Linda Hyles, Cindy Hyles, Joy Evans (Dr. Evans daughter) and so many others can sit you down and make your ears burn. I applaud Linda for coming forward. I hope that one day, she will turn her eyes back on the Saviour and recognize that IFB pastors like her father, her brother and her brother in law, are puppets that sell out for power, domination and recognition. They wrest the scriptures and have private interpretations which lead many into sin with them. Serve the Lord for love and gratitude.... not DUTY!

Not as rich as Jack Hyles got from STEALING from church members! ...But hey you go on defending your cult leader!

@@libertypastor1307 Girl STFU! You been on every comment section with your bs! Go and do your research and educate yourself because you're clearly indoctrinated and brain washed by CULT leaders! How about you stop going to church, take your head out of Hyle's ass and actually get factual information for yourself! You are controlled by your ridiculous ideologies and false teachings! Wake up and quit listening to your money hungry pastors!

This was news that was available, broadcast nationally in “A Current Affair” and locally in “Preying from the Pulpit.” It was also written about by Voyle Glover, Victor Nischik, and Robert Sumner. Hyles trained his people in “Jack Hyles on Justice” never to believe an accusation against him, which is very cultish. Without the Internet, it was easier to keep a lid on things. (Baptist preachers had no accountability.) But even with the Internet, and all the information out there-like Linda's testimony-people like you are still denying the truth. I don't think you know how much that hurts.

Clarence Sexton's Crown, I know for a fact Hyles was just another sinner, and it is possible he could have had fallen short in sexual areas, but as far as I know (I am not omniscient) Hyles was a genuine man used by God. But I do know that the IFB movement is a very genuine and legit body. And praise God, that He uses sinners from the uttermost to the gutter most. I don't want to come off as denying but I know I will come off as it a bit, but if Hyles actually was physically sexually immoral it would have been made known in his lifetime

His dealings with Jennie Nischik were absolutely made known in his lifetime. Please watch some of the news broadcasts I've included on my channel. Thank you.

I take it you are not a fan of the Independent Fundamental Baptist groups? Do you understand or are you familiar with the fact they are not all the same and we are set up the way we are to separate ourselves from complete corruption? I hope you would be able to find the good churches of the IFB's

You have responded without taking the time to familiarize yourself with those news broadcasts. You really should watch them. How old are you? Do you have a degree from a fundamentalist institution as many of us do? Do you always make up your mind before you've researched a matter carefully? Please familiarize yourself with those news broadcasts. You owe it to yourself to do so. Sincerely.

You have no idea what you are talking about and you would probably drink the Kool Aid if you were commanded to.

@@davidlynn5385 Umm... I think he is talking about something JESUS said. Do you know Him?

@@libertypastor1307 Yes, I know the Saviour.

@@davidlynn5385 Then act like it. Do justly. Withhold judgment when you have not been given power to make a judgment and have been given evidence and allowed the accused to face the accuser. Any bitter person cansay anything about a living or deceased person, family or not. That doesn't make what they say so. I knew all the parties involved in this situation, and I give the benefit of the doubt to all, but do not allow any to besmirch any of the others in my mind without proof that passes the shadow of a doubt standard. I also reserve TO MYSELF any suspicions of wrong doing without proof. Hence, I speak out against all accusations that are not accompanied with proof, evidence and testimony that can withstand scrutiny. Bro. Hyles is in heaven, and there is not one sin recorded against him. If you truly know the Saviour, the same is true with your record in heaven; so why do we wallow in the mud of slander so much? There are a few things I hope I learned to not do from Bro. Hyles' mistakes in ministry, but they are mistakes in my judgment, so I keep the lessons to myself, but I teach and preach the lessons through biblical principles, not by attacking him. This prevents me from sitting in the seat of the scornful and enables me to enjoy all the good memories I have.

@@libertypastor1307 !) Don't tell me what to do. 2) The bible says in John 7:24 to judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. 3) Paul the apostle named specific individuals like Alexander the coppersmith that did him wrong in 2nd Timothy 4:14 and others. 4) Don't defend people that need to be exposed so that others may fear. 5) Pastor, learn your bible!

You drank her koolaid?

*Gunsquawk* Wow, quite an indictment there guy...and with nothing to substantiate your open rebuke, wow. And what's this...you're playing *GOD* ? Yeah...you seemingly also know she's not a Christian, right? *SMH* PS: Define what a "great preacher" is by the way. Enlighten us all if you would.

Gunsquawk 44 maybe you need to repent of your baseless accusation against her. She was the man’s daughter and too many other people corroborated his whoremonging . His son is even worse. Shame on you.

@Randy Dockins Allow me to weigh in on your "one of the greatest soulwinners" comment... I sat under his preaching for four full years, and *ALSO* heard him on occasion when he spoke out of town. You know what... Not even *ONCE* did Bro Hyles have a convert walk the aisle to profess faith or get baptised as far as I know.

Hyles cheated on everyone when he had sex with Mrs. Nischtik, a deacon's wife....so he's a huge liar and sinned massively in front of his church, do you also think Jim Bakker is a man of god too? get a clue

If she harbors bitterness towards her own father, you've at least got to wonder why.