Linux Sucks 2024 

Who knew Microsoft coming into the Linux Foundation and community representation being dropped was a conflict of interest... Anyone paying attention.

We stand on the shoulders of nerds that used model 33 teletypes to write shell utilities.

Linux and open-source software largely being in the hands of... problem people is very concerning. There are only so many places you can run before you're out of OS/software options.

People used to say "Contribute to free and open source projects to keep them going". However, it seems that most of that money goes into other stuff. The problem seems to be that big tech is robbing the poor donations that we give to FOSS projects.

Red Hat has been playing "hide the ball" with the source code for decades.

Seems like it's not Linux that sucks, but the people and companies who were supposed to manage and oversee it that suck. It's all so tiresome.

The Linux pioneers are starting to move on and retire. We'll see if the next generation can sustain the momentum.

I see smoke coming from the Library of Alexandria.

I told everyone (as soon as Microsoft purchased github) to transfer all their files to another website, but as usual no one listens til it's too late.

"Debian is fine". Whew, that's a relief.

Money should always go to the developers not management, the fact that there is a Linux Foundation means that we already failed our mission.

Really wish OS's werent so shit. Is one of the big software black holes.

Amazing overview of Linux news I mostly never heard anywhere else. Instantly subscribed! I wonder if many of these developments are intended to undermine Linux as we know it, like Microsoft is known to have done with: “Embrace, extend, and extinguish" (EEE)

To be fair to most of the reporters of Linux stuff, the big thing is the Steam Deck, plasma 6.x and they did all shout out how evil Redhat closing up source was... but I definitely think more should talk about the racist red hat lawsuit.

Gentoo, didn't become a binary distro, it alwaays had support for binary packages, and now upstream has build jobs to precreate these binary packages. That's the _only_ thing that changed: we host more prebuilt binaries now.

Let's be honest: who would really be upset about ubuntu killing off snap?

All Linux updates (including the Kernel updates, Linus) went wonkey this past year. Red Hat is completely lost. What happened??! To be fair though, Apple and Microsoft are going the same way. Let's don't even talk about Android. Instead, lets talk about what started this mess in the first place (, maybe it's the post Pandemic lockdown blues closely followed by Uncle AI?) It's more about losing sight of what open source means. Instead of "What can I contribute", it's more about "What can I take". When there's no more learning, I suppose we have AI.

We are living in an AI hallucination, clearly.

Shoutouts to the Gnome Project Shaman.

maybe i'm just dumb but i always wondered why linux users use a site owned by microsoft to essentially host the code of all their programs. people (rightfully) distrust microsoft because of stuff like recall, is there anything to stop them hosting and serving such malware from github?

Time to fork the Kernel? I suggest we call it Lunnix.

PLAN9 MENTIONED !! 🗣️🗣️

Hi luke im a gentoo user binary packages arent mandatory i still compile everything from source. The decision for adding binary packages if i recall was to give users more choice and that was reiterated on the news item about the binary packages PS: some big programs like firefox, the kernel or libreoffice already had binary versions rather than compiling from source, i personally used the binary for libreoffice and yes you can mix binary programs and source compiled programs portage is a really great package manager. Its also really good if ur installing gentoo on an old laptop you dont have to compile certain large packages. Now ofc the use flags dont work for bin pkgs which it makes sense as a maintainer you dont want to compile 5 different versions of vlc one with opus one without opus one with opus and flac one with flac but no opus

Me laughing in Debian. (Non stop since 2001).

1. The Linux foundation makes me angry to an extent that I cannot express in writing. 2. Snap is basically the only Ubuntu thing I don't like (and then how Ubuntu Server seems to be the Fisher Price toy of the server space), but all of the other experiments were cool and interesting. 3. I love what System76 is doing, I hope they succeed. 4. IBM sucks and I don't know why FOSS companies have started selling to people like Oracle and IBM if they started by being super into open source. Greed trumps all. 5. Apparently someone uses SUSE. 6. Debian has been Debian for decades, and I have great faith that it will continue to be Debian in the future. Debian is eternally fine and immune to hip trends.

Every OS sucks in 2024

I can't seem to find the first Linux sucks video. Does anyone have a link to it? I remember seeing it many years ago and would love to see it.

From Linux Foundation Annual Report 2023: > Linux kernel support 2% ($7,804,150) > In 2023 the Linux Foundation is forecasting to spend over $269.02M supporting our mission. 7.80M/269.02M = 2.9% They did a weird rounding in their report. While there is a drop in the Linux kernel funding, it isn't that huge. What's even more depressing is that the absolute numbers have also decreased.

I hope KDE hires a Dragonborn Bard, they need all the support they can get these days.

so u are a old-programmer turned journalist. so a journalist who understands technology... so a technologist journalist? u are perfect

YAY I LOVE LINUX SUCKS

I use Arch. I am glad it wasn't mentioned.

My Free Desktop keeps sucking year in and year out. Once in a while I have to interact with Windows or OSX and am immediately reminded of the truth of the Linus Torvalds comment that all operating systems suck, Linux just sucks less. Theo deRaadt would probably correct that with: all operating systems suck...except OpenBSD

they should give a million+ to the guy who discovered xz backdoor so early, it could've been the end given more time.

I am not sure if you just described a year in a dysfunctioning insane asylum or a software project. This whole show was basically one hour of "wtf are they doing?"

Did anything happen on the Arch side of things? I missed them in the 'distros' section.

I feel the linux and VGA output part, so many cringe memories from my college years being the "weird linux guy"

Suddenly my friend who has separated his networks at home where his trusted machines cannot talk to ubuntu or windows and has blocked access to a ton of sites (microsoft, ubuntu etc), does not seem as crazy as 6 months ago.

Where can i find the list of what the LF does and is involved in with? I went to their webseite and did not really find alot of what was put on the list here. Maybe some points have been paraphrased? Someone can help put pls?

Man the shaman part was crazy. I literally couldn't stop laughing. Shaman and GNOME, Seriously!! 😅😅😅😅😅

Amazing talk as always, Lunduke. I've watched all of your Linux Sucks talks, and they are the highlight of my year ~~

Looks like I'm going to keep sticking with Debian for the foreseeable future. As for Fedora, Conner on guys you knew this was coming.

Here something which still sucks on Linux: audio-software using 100% audio-volume for 'new' programs. For example, in my Firefox-window the sound-volume remains the same but as soon as I open a private window of Firefox the audio-volume is set to 100%. Whenever I play a new game the audio-volume is 100%. This is not only annoying, it also is dangerous (hearing). It gets worse when you can't leave the game because the developer uses some weird mode which makes the game freeze as soon as you leave it (tiling window manager), for most of such buggy games you can solve that with a setting in the video/graphics-menu, for some games you can't, I currently have at least 3 of those games.

Unix/Linux is not even built for the present, much less the future. We need to start over and bring back the Lisp Machine.

I will agree with you, most distro's are close to junk. I need to figure out how to correctly setup freebsd.

I had no idea what I was getting into with the title, but this turned out to be surprisingly fun and informative.

Well since I’m white guess ill just never again use red hat products.

This brought out some serious butt hurt in February. Let's throw some salt on those wounds and aire this again. 🧂

Can we talk about how the sound system on my Window 10 install craps out twice a month, but my 22.04 partition "just works"

big lawsuit hitting ibm and rh. glad you mentioned the stories.

After fedora updates I always needed to unplug my vr headset before restarting, had to reinstall my OS twice because none of the grub options allowed it to boot anymore. I have mint on a computer with ddr2 and it runs fine for browsing.

Binaries for gentoo makes sense, so long as the exact source code from which they were compiled is provided. _That_ is the distinguishing factor: no programs for which the source code is not fully available. The binary provided for a kernel should produce exactly the same program as compiling against that same kernel without any custom flags.

The funding drying up might not be such a bad thing, that means less money to grow DEI projects and these go first.

Wow, I had no idea there was so much drama in Linux world.

were are all the videos from more than one year ago gone??

I can only trust the opinions of Linux users when they're willing to say Linux sucks. And yes, this dead horse NEEDS to be beaten. If Linux is ever going to thrive or take over, things need to change. Evidently, what the community is doing now is not working. Especially the endless forking I keep hearing about. I love and resonate with your joke using a Firefox update as an example. I swear, most change notes are just an included package upgrading to a new minor version for minor bug fixes that aren't really felt by the end user. It's like "libwhoknows updated to version 0.1.1" and "libwhocares updated to version 0.9.1" or even "random-name text editor updated to 5.101.6 - recolors syntax for java syntax mode". Linux community gets way too excited about minor updates that don't get us anywhere turning Linux journalism into a desperate straw-grasping industry. It's hard to believe open-source is democratized by nature. I highly doubt a shaman would have been installed as ceo by vote from the community of the project they oversee. I remember the shift from MacOS 9 to OS X. It was bright, it was new, it was sexy, and it was awesome that it was willing to leave code behind and told developers to update their stuff or get left behind.

26:04 can I now identity as a Drow Ranger for the purposes of being hired by one of these foundations?

You know what, Haiku and SerenityOS are looking pretty good right now. Maybe even move to TempleOS.

i would love to know where you got the numbers for the spending on ai, i didn't find that on their annual report. i also checked the 3 sections i found that were to do with ai and didn't see the number. i checked LFN and AI, LF AI & DATA and Generative AI: a legal risk or open collaboration opportunity?

Does spending on the kernel actually benefit development or is it like throwing so much fertilizer on your crops that it blocks the sun?

After watching all this part of me just wants to uninstall Linux sell my computer and go live in a cave. I guess it's all which devil is worse and right now Microsoft and Apple are far worse. You can start to see them sink their claws into Linux and using it for their whims in the Linux Foundation. Maybe BSD might be a viable alternative in the future but in the Open Source spirit if you don't like how something is done just Fork IT!

Lunduke, you made quite a few good points with this video. But because of the title, I passed on this video twice and almost a third time before finally watching it. So how many other people may have ignored the video because they conclude, like I did, that your video is simply hating linux for hating sake? Maybe call it 'Linux is in trouble in 2024' to get more eyes on it, perhaps even Linus Torvalds himself? Just a suggestion of course, but I urge you to consider it

0.5% budget used for linux 2024. I can feel it.... The budget will go towards farm management (W?)

Comment for the algorithm, and to let you know to keep up the fight! You're a hero in my book. I work as a programmer so about 50% my digital life is Linux based (the other 50% is macOS) and I'd never have known about 80% of these things (esp. the Red Hat/IBM and Linux Foundation... worrying, worrying stuff...)

Thank you for making this every year.

Gentoo is not a binary distro, it offers the ability to download binary packages (good for old laptops with slow CPU's), but it is definitely not mandatory and compiling from source is still the recommended way.

I can't get my AverMedia Live Gamer 2.1 capture card under Linux if I want to do 4k 60hz streaming because it can't handshake at 10Gbps under USE3.2 Gen2 for some reason... no work around found yet, hoping to develop a custom manual usb speed check patch sometime but I'm no kernel programmer.

Imagine if we had a Linux Action Show in 2023.

For me, the number #1 reason linux sucks is poor hibernate support.

280k for Gnome, Linux Desktop is a pipedream. The desktop needs about the same amount of money that Apple gives to it's desktop development.

Why not upload the MAc os sucks episode here on you tube. and all the linux sucks series ? :)

mind giving the whole article from the register? or perhaps a link?

If racism is wrong (and it is) then it's wrong _no matter who the target is._ And if it's "not racism" _depending on which race it's aimed at?_ Then that only compounds racism with _cowardice._

It's really hard not to notice how more and more and more people in positions of power in these foundations made to support open source development are completely non-technical... What a horrible time to be alive. We should have gatekept harder.

I don't know if I should feel relieved because someone is covering these topics or terrified because the moment we lose you the linux journalism is kaput

should put together a DVD with all your Linux sucks speeches on them. I enjoy them.

I feel like the question shouldn't be "What happens when Linus retires?" but rather "What happens when Linus keels over from someone trying to get an exceptionally stupid commit into the kernel?" Like is there a clear line of succession in place in case of stress-induced death when someone tries to rewrite code to be more efficient but does it all in c#?

I've been considering moving over to Linux, I suppose it's odd asking this under a video called "Linux Sucks" but is it still worth it to make a move from windows?

Linux sucks, but Windows sucks more and MacOS sucks and cost $500.

From time to time you get an article like industry x or government agency y still uses Win 95. That is probably why they invest in things like farm management and power grid management. It is a long term money source.

I try to avoid both Gnome and Redhat; thanks for making me feel good about that :) Once again, i suspect we all ought to get on board with BSD earlier rather than later

I will NOT rest until Red Hat Linux is run, managed and developed by a powerful inspirational Woman of Color called Shaniqua. We need to recognise than binary distributions are HIGHLY discriminatory against non-binary distributions and other highly regarded neurodivergent distributions.

Debian could cease to exist and no one would notice until 10 years later when no new stable version is released.

If IBM bought RedHat is there still any RedHat stock left out there?

I am pretty happy with my Ubuntu 24.04. Having said that I had to install "minimal" Ubuntu server, get rid of snap and netplan, and install minimal KDE plasma. took me a weekend. I'd prefer to go with the Debian, but their Nvidia drivers' support lag, to say the least.

i can't believe you actually focus on the pride flag part more than the risky deals part, THAT IS INSANE.

I don't want to single out one specific Linux news website, but I do wonder why Phoronix doesn't cover some of these hot topics, focusing on some miniscule features for niche software instead. As there is AI that could help in writing some of this stuff up, what am I missing here?

theres a wave of incoming users to linux, especially in the past month with windows recall. hopefully these issues get more attention and coverage

Slackware and debian Will remain.

Best is thunderbird. I havent used it in like 8 years, but there were no visible changes since netscape navigator 3.1 to year 2010. Then someone may GUI worse and integrated calendar. Then dropped extensions for security or some reasons and made it useless. Sometimes I feel like project development effort is in inverse proportion of funding. KDE is getting gradually better. Gnome makes whole GTK ecosystem gradually more simple and worse. Rust and blender are fine. But abstract instutions are funding more than KDE, FreeBSD and other projects, that are actually useful?

03:18 Can I have an overview of what this is about? Maybe this appears later

Linus said he sold his RedHat shares many years ago to buy his modest house in California, perhaps in Silicon Valley, where real estate prices were already insane back then.

I didn't like this episode, can we ask 2023 to try again please? That was insane😢 Thanks for covering this though Brian.

01:04:44 Yep Debian is fine, actually it's my favorite even Operating System.

first you mention that bsd is a pascal compiler and then you mention plan 9, what are you gonna say next? that plan 9 is a better mac os alternative than haiku? :D

Great video! LMAO! I've been wondering about these problems for ages now myself. The real question is, what sort of pro-active steps can be taken to guarantee the future of the Linux kernel - independently of the Linux Foundation - Crowdfunding? Formation of an alternative foreign foundation based in Europe, say? What about crowdfunding Debian to take over kernel development should Linus retire? Debian is a safe and conservative pair of hands. The Hurd needs to be dusted off and re-kick-started by Debian too. RMS of GNU has been ill recently in 2023 - another blow to free software. His health has somewhat improved in the meantime and is looking for venues again to hold his free software seminars. Any takers?

Yeah maybe gnome is leading the charge in having business shamans protect the project

Who would have thought that open source free wouldn't have money to pay employees

Retirement at 45 sounds crazy to me. Retirement age in my country is 65, so 20 years earlier retirement....

I simply could NOT contain the wheezing when I heard "... Or a Dwarf Paladin!?"