Carl Richell System76 Founder Learn why System76 built COSMIC and the new features and capabilities it brings to the Linux desktop environment landscape.
Making the DE as un-opinionated and consistent as possible is simply the best idea. Top attention to detail matters, and you are in the right mindset. Like many, I can't wait to see the v1.0. PS: iZotope RX, unfortunately closed source and not available for Linux, could really help you with fixing bad background noise such as this recording.
@@Batwam0 Yes, it is a jab at GNOME's inflexible design ethos. Their Adwaita ("One and Only") philosophy is deeply flawed. Having suffered from having to work around a lot of their bad design choices, we do not want to inflict the same onto our users and downstreams. Users and distributions alike should be able to configure and theme COSMIC however they like, and it should be easy to do so, with the most common needs built into the desktop by default.
As a Pop!_OS user for years, I love System76 care and attention to details! And the theming of the COSMIC DE is awesome. Being a Rust based project, I expect great performance. Keep up the good work, team! And thank you for your ambitious project to have a new DE for us! ❤
Been following this ambitious project since early development. I'm still clutching my Xfce (X11) pearls and COSMIC is where I intend to finally make the jump into modernity, along with new hardware.
I think the most valuable thing about all this is that Cosmic is being built with Linux users in mind -- creators, builders, programmers, developers, scientists. I often felt uncertain why the "average desktop user / low tech person" was seemingly the target audience of major linux DEs (respectfully). I look forward to see how this all goes.
Cosmic is on 🔥. I would love for System76 to kind of polish the Cosmic DE experience by integrating some nuggets such as rounded corners and smooth animations on auto tilling just like Hyprland.
Using the sidebar for convergence is truly genious. It works on normal size too and is so simple! I really love how you cherrypick all the good stuff of all the DEs, and I see you have experience, as a KDE user, and rebuild it from scratch with a modern and elegant codebase
I am so impressed with the work that's been done. I am not a Linux power user, so the fact that this is designed to work simply is sooo appealing. What other operating system component should they tackle next?
All I've always wanted is a stable, clean, and functional desktop to use and for some reason Gnome/KDE has never giving me that. Have been suing Pop OS since my first switch from elementary OS. Excited about the new design. Very happy about it.
I just love the whole thing, it feels like a hybrid of XFCE and Gnome, where they have picked almost all the good paradigms of XFCE and the only thing of Gnome that is worth anything; AKA it's clean aesthetics. Can't wait to try it.
Yeah. I use GNOME and Xfce as my desktops on various systems, and neither is exactly thrilling, but they're both directionally where I want them to be. If COSMIC manages to pull off a nice stable system that runs well on my hardware, I will probably switch to it on my distro of choice and never look back.
I have been a faithful KDE user. but if the tiling is really good in cosmic, i will definitely switch. Hope it comes independent of the distro too. Can't wait to try it.
I just installed pop os, and i was just complaining about the lack of customization out of the box. I wanted to change what my mouse pointer and couldn't figure it out. Of course I'm dum and new But this looks amazing
It seems cool in a lot of ways, and I understand his rationale for not being able to choose where the window buttons appear, but I’m really used to having mine on the left side, as so many people who come from Mac will be…
This is necessary for the consistency of application design. The nav bar toggle button is on the left side where the nav bar panel is presented. The context drawers slide out from the right side of the application. Reversing window controls would significantly increase complexity of the layout system. Or at least look out of place to have window controls taking up space in front of the nav bar toggle.
It looks good. Is the panel the same as the dock, just configured differently? I would like to just have a panel with an application switcher, start menu, virtual desktop switcher and notifications.
Yes, the dock is just a second panel. The dock can be disabled. You could have more than two panels, but the settings application is only designed to aid with configuring two panels.
Are there any effords on making a pdf reader using pdf-rs? That would be lit. Btw I think its supercool how you just embed Alacritty in the Cosmic terminal and add all the needed things like Tabs and split.
I really hope they improve the light theme. It's nice that they let you customize it, but it's best to ship with something good by default. I know there are contrast concerns, but the black text on white just doesn't work well with my eyes. Grey background works better for me. Everything else sounds good
I’d be willing to try it in a VM but all the reviewers have seen so far mentioned it had to be bare metal. Anyone know if there is an iso which works in a VM for this?
It requires Vulkan hardware acceleration for good performance, so you need to configure your VM in a way that it can get real hardware acceleration. Without Vulkan support, applications will use the LLVMPipe Vulkan software renderer, which is significantly slower.
not sure what kinds of fans those are. it is annoying in the presentation but during my tests it looks to use about the same ressources as gnome. i guess in the future it might get more optimised
Meh, Linux has lover usability than Win/Mac, the DE is not the problem, it's just a marketing move. MacOs/ windows have: multiuser/multigroup file/folder ownership, easy sharing of files, good integration with Cloud storage providers(including offline access), all support fingerprint sensors. MacOs has: file tags, smartfolders, consistent UI Windows has: network folder sync (including offline(cached) file access), Credentials app provides cool UI for the keychain, file attributes (hidden files), device manager, digital signed installation files. Personally I do not need an another DE.
Help yourself! I would like to make a donation, but I need to create an account? I want to pay but I don't want to create a new account. I realy like POP_OS!
I love system76, I own one of there laptops. SO support your Linux first laptops. But I hate the heavy Linux DEs. I Run Arch on mine. I know your waiting for the BTW. but System76 made it possible to get the right drivers for the hardware. Makes them a great company. thanks for not making me us Cosmic guys. Cosmic is just gross to me. Go Hypr.
Прямо классика, Маша - дизайнер. Ребят,вы там там очередное КДЕ на сляпайте в порыве креативности, а то пользоваться невозможно будет, только настраивать и настраивать вместо продуктивной работы.
How is it like KDE? It has different defaults, it’s powered by a different programming language, it’s driven by a different compositor, different theming, it has an entirely different aesthetic, its approach to extensibility is fundamentally different, the way it manages display processes are different, and more. It’s not at all like KDE.
@@kylerjohnson988 Ok ok, don't worry. It was kind of joke.:-) KDE has a lot of options exposed to users to tune and change. I am probaby got over that age when I needed to poke into Prefercnces to customize how my DE looks like. Gnome has everything hidden and that' s what I want and like how Ubuntu customized it :-))
What was it you don't like about them? I ask out of genuine curiosity because I'm not much of a UX designer myself, but they all seemed useable and cute to me
Should hire a designer. I saw major design flaws in it, first one is the huge circle in the menu bar, second is the alginment in the screen settings toggle buttons and color picker fields. There are bunch of others as well. Shame, they steal apple ideas and ui layouts, and think they can improve uppon them? Good luck with that, just copy it 100%.
Pop!_Shop isn't based on GNOME Software. It was a fork of Phanteon App Center, from Elementary OS. The ISO installer is work between System76 and Elementary OS, too.
Just tried all 3. Gnome Software, Pop!_shop and Cosmic App Center. Cosmic is by far the best. It starts the fastest, it doesn't lag while searching for things, and has the best in my opinion layout.
