Lithium Battery review time! - Enerdrive, Hardkorr, Itechworld, Redarc & Kings 100Ah - 135Ah Battery 

Really you put it under the bonnet? It definitely gets hotter then 80°c under the bonnet and that's when BMS cuts out. Glad you have had no issues

@@Off.Track4x4 my brother has a DCS brand and it’s bms records temp. Never seen it over 75 in his 100 series cruiser

​@@Off.Track4x4The itech batteries are designed for extra heat to go under the bonnet or extra hot areas.

@@Off.Track4x4 Itechworld have stated this in there website is the specs and I’ve done one as well under bonnet, they will also provide a heat shield for the battery if specified.

@@petcuyvers No they aren't. There's some great tear down reviews showing there is nothing different in assembly or design than other batteries. I was just reading a review last night that shows the 120X internally and it is no different in its assembly than Kings. Nothing in there to protect the cells or BMS from heat at all. The tests also showed that the stated specs of the 120X including total capacity, useable capacity, discharge rate and temperature protection were completely incorrect.

Thank you for watching Ingrid and your nice comment 😊👍

Thanks for the comment mate, all ways the way you put up a video and all the info changes 🤣😂

Max charge current for current Kings 120Ah is 60A. Took a while to track this down.

Hey mate, thank you for watching and thanks for the comment, I found they all fall in between 12-15kgs So to cut time down on the video had to leave it out, sorry mate.

@@Off.Track4x4 thanks

Hey mate, Yep I have a video up now of the inverter, I bought a 3000w but it's more so an upgrade for when our caravan comes. Plugs straight into the 175Amp Anderson and works perfectly just can't use the full 3000w on this battery.

Thanks and I did find that vid after I posted the message. I wasn't sure if you had used a 2000w and upgraded to the 3000. Thanks for the vid and responding to the question. Cheers

Hey mate, no promotion I'm not a big enough channel to have sponsorship. The hardkorr just beat out everyone else's.

Yes, all good. Manufacturers specs is what you explained. I would like to see the actual specifications while the batteries are running typical appliances

I said the Itechworld was pretty good, I would have got one if they had Bluetooth. The 100 usage I'm still unsure about, can't see anywhere about it actually being 150Ah all Lithium are 100% usage, but best practice is 80% usage for long life.

@@Off.Track4x4 the itechworld 120PRO is 120Ah usage which makes battery about 150Ah

Do a discharge test, most batteries under $1000 for 100ah you won’t get full Ah as they cut out at 10.5V

Hey mate, thank you for watching and commenting 🙂 I don't believe any lithium should go under the bonnet of a car so I don't want to mention it. When I worked at TJM we would provide a different warranty if mounting the HD air compressor under the bonnet, it could technically handle being under the bonnet but it was not happy and dramaticly shortened the life span. In my eyes that means it should not go under the bonnet, same for every lithium battery, just because it can doesn't mean they should. Does that make sense? I don't know Just my thoughts 😊

Thanks mate really appreciate it 😊

Hello Stephen, thanks for watching the channel has changed alot over the years hey. I'm happy to get the negative comments all gets the videos seen by more people 😁 Thank you for sticking with me over the years legend 👍

Hey hey, should fit no issues the box is made to fit most 120ah batteries. When I was at TJM we used it with a heap of different batteries.

Hey mate, I heard that but I'm a bit confused it may be warranted to go under the bonnet, but going off the max charging/discharging temps they wouldn't function under there? At 80°c the safety protection isolator kicks in and shuts the battery off. Also it has a recommended operating temp of no higher then 60°c. I don't know the number don't seem to add up, what's your thoughts?

I have a DCS battery under the bonnet of my 150 series Prado. Expensive but a well tested product. I know itechworld advertise they have $10M insurance in case their under bonnet batteries blow up. All well and good but my family to me is priceless.

Thanks Tony really appreciate it 🙂

Hey mate, thanks for the comment, they weight 14kgs. Not sure where that sits in line with others. Weight isn't a big factor to me at the moment sorry.

There is definitely some smaller brands out there making so good batteries. I can't believe you made your own!

Hey mate, wasn't fare to compare a 150Ah with everyone else's 125Ah. Also there 5000 cycles is based on 100% usage not 80%. Only accepting charge up to 45 degrees Celsius is a joke for an Australian made battery. for the money they are asking needs to be a lot better then that.

Hello Rich, I have a video coming out soon on it. I guess it all depends on what your purpose is for an inverter? If going in a canopy great choice 100% recommend, amazing build quality like no joke put together really well, has a brilliant sleep mode with crazy small Amp draw, the Amp loss during inversion is also low. Has a safety switch which is must these days, remote switch included. If you plug it into 24v you then get 3700W. If it's for a caravan then things get a little bit more tricky. And the answer isn't as simple.

@@Off.Track4x4 Yes that makes sense. Well I’m considering buying one for my caravan. We have 600ah’s of lithium batteries 12v and 800watts of solar on the roof. And the caravan has been pre wired for a inverter with 240v AC input. We will be using it for things like the microwave and toaster and coffee machine etc. I’d be interested to know your thoughts?

I will be swapping out the 2000w inverter in my caravan for my 3000w hardcore one, BUT we do not stay in caravan parks and very rarely are plugged into 240v so restricting the maximum power draw of the van to 3700w is fine for us. The down side to the hardkorr inverter is that it doesn't come with a automatic transfer switch. This feacher means when you plug into mains power the power transfers through the inverter giving you full capacity of the caravan parks power. You need to spend 2k+ to get an automatic transfer switch in an inverter. Hardkorrs instead uses the 240v to power the inverter bumping the power usage from 3000w to 3700w. Each caravan park has different size circuit breakers so it's hard to tell if you will be restricted using the hardkorr inverter at a caravan park. Does that all make sense?

@@Off.Track4x4 Thank you for your insight. I look forward to your video review. When do you think that’ll be on RU-vid?

We are still discussing if we continue with RU-vid, the fact they changed it from a seach engine linking words in your title to what viewers search, to a full on recommendation algorithm has made doing this very frustrating. I am getting alot of support from my subscribers which is amazing, just frustrating the success of each video comes down to if a computer wants to show my videos to people or not. Doesn't matter if people search for the exact item. Sorry rant over 🤣😂 the inverter is up next I have a few people now asking me to do it.

Thanks for the comment Mark 😊 Those batteries don't look to bad hey, there is some really good small companies in the battery space kicking ass, just hard to find them

@@Off.Track4x4 yeah the ones in my van are the flash ones with separate BMS. 10 years old and still going. I bought one of the cheaper ones they have with the inbuilt BMS and blue tooth a 120 amp hour job and put in my canopy it's going great to.

Hey mate, thanks for watching and sharing your feed back 😊 My understanding is the Bluetooth inside the battery is the same as a shunt it's just one step earlier then the terminal. I've been given an Aussie built battery that I'm able to open when I do my review so we will get to see in that battery how the Bluetooth is weird up. Agreed their is some great Aussie batteries coming through, I am now being offered them to review so you will get to see them soon 😊

​@@Off.Track4x4 Have never heard of a inbuilt shunt as part of the internal BMS and bluetooth. There's a lot of material on the net regarding this topic and I'm yet to come across any batteries (at the price point which we're discussing :) ) which are able to monitor the power usage as accurately as an external system. Of course, you can always add an external shunt later if you feel the need. My point was to highlight that internal monitoring isn't worth the additional cost compared to external, in my opinion. Cheers.

Hello Steve, thank you for watching and your comment. It is best practice to never take a lithium below 20% it is definitely a bad move to take them to zero and will shorten the lifespan of your battery.

I had a look, they actually are great battiers really good figures. There is a few small brands really doing some good things, just hard for them to make their way into the market.

@@Off.Track4x4 i had one of two of the 100ah slimline batteries completely die and cant wake it up and its brand new, waiting for it to get to them to see whats wrong or why it happened. They were very quick to organise testing and a courier to pick it up though. The after sales support is pretty good.

Hey Daniel thanks you for the comment 😊, at the time of filming that was the rating on the king's website. Unfortunately they change suppliers so much that specifications change quite regularly. As far as the 100% usage all lithium can be used to 100% should you do that? No not smart for long life. But they are giving a 5 year warranty so backing their product to handle it.

That's wrong, there are countless videos of people pulling the full 120ah and some out of the king's batteries

Hello Simon, from memory I looking into then but they were really far off the mark, recommend to only charge at 24amps and only have 2000 cycles, just go the king's Thank you for the comment 😌

It's crazy when you look at the figures isn't it! Blew my mind 🤯 Thanks for the comment mate

Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting means alot 👍😊 I guess only way you could prove it is through charging and discharging rates if the times don't equal enough amp hours?

Hello mate, thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it 😁👍 The king's is definitely not bad for the price, you can't expect for the money they are asking for it to stack up to the other. Let me know how it goes and if you have any issues with it.

You haven't seen Lloyd in a mankini... Whoo quite a sight 😂🤣🤣

Itech are trash

Bought an itech and it was rooted out of the box , didn’t work?? They screwed me around for over 3 months with the warranty claim , hope you don’t have any issues with your itech gear mate . 👍

Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting, what bad information am I giving? I'm giving all the information that is important when picking a battery, I review and test batteries every week so I'd say this is an area I have a fair bit of experience with. Not as much as 240v but still a decent amount. I also use to sell touring set ups for a living. So not sure what your comment is trying to achieve? I'm assuming you just don't agree with the hardkorr battery, that's fine say you don't think it's a good battery everyone is open to their opinions 😊

@@Off.Track4x4 The advertised spec mean nothing without testing. Have you testing any of them for capacity, NO. The cycles between 80% and 100% is huge, also not mentioned Number of cycles youve tested and what is the remaining capacity, not tested. Which batteries are claiming the quoted number is 100% of the usable or its total, also no quantified. I could go on but no point wasting my time, you are obviously clueless and not providing info based on data, just silly thoughts and concepts based on the advertising that you dont even understand. You info is rubbish and people should not be using you useless drivel to make a decision, thats what Im trying to say.