Lol so? It perfectly fine to criticise other cultures if their practises are harmful. Other cultures also have honour killings and child marriages. Should we just not have an opinion on that just because that’s normal in said culture?
@@TinaWeenie I an saying that plenty of cultures have problematic traditions. Just because something is a part of a certain culture doesn’t mean we hve to accept and be okay with. Of course I am not comparing piercings to murder 🙄 Maybe it’s an extreme example but my point still stands. Babies are not dolls for us to do with as we please. No infant needs a piercing and no infant gives consent for having a needle poked through them. I don’t understand how you missed the point of my comment.
i got mine done at 14 it really isnt bad your eyes will water though get pierced at 16-14 g because it will be less painful and more puncture type pain.
Just say “not everyone has western beliefs.” There are plenty of people in the US who still participate in cultural practices like this, or at least respect it.
In their culture this piercing means that they will be let into Heaven after passing. My eyelash tech is part of the same culture and she brought it up cause she seen my septum and she told me the story.❤
It's not true though. When I explained what it's like to be saved/ born again, I say it's like if you take someone who has been blind all their life to the top of a mountain with a beautiful meadow with the most beautiful flowers and a gorgeous waterfall in the distance with the most beautiful rainbow you'd ever seen and everything is glistening in the sun and you explain what you are seeing to the person whose blind. They can get an idea but can't fathom the glory that you see. Being born again "I once was blind but now I see" if God unblinds the person and they see the amazing glory for themselves they'd be all struck and absolutely in love! That to me is what it was like for me getting born again and I've been head over heals in love with Jesus ever since. And love reading His autobiography which is the Bible. Its the only book in the world that is actually alive and breating. Hebrews 4:12. That's how i know God wrote it. It may look unjust but the way i think of it is that Lucifer was the highest angel in Heaven and he got curious to evil and fell and now hes Satan. Eve got curious about evil because she fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. With God putting us through this world we're going to already know evil when we get to Heaven and so we'll know that we're we don't want any part of it! The best way that I can explain the gospel is that we're all born into sin from birth because of Adam and Eve. We can see this in a 2 year old before we even knew anything we all would defy our parents and steal a cookie from the cookie jar and with chocolate all over our face lie about it. That's 3 sins right there. Another example is to watch children they lie and manipulate at a very young age. If one toddler has a toy and the other toddler wants it one will attack the other one hitting him with all his might if he was strong enough he would kill him all because he wants that toy. None of this was taught by their parents, this is the human nature, born in sin. We don't have to learn to sin. It just comes naturally to us. We have to learn not to sin. Sin=death. That's why we all die. We don't know why sin=death. It's just a natural rule like gravity of what goes up must come down. Jesus being God and man was tempted in every way but never sinned, not even once. He wasn't birn with the sinful nature because He wasn't conceived by Adams seed like the rest of us we're. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son." (Jesus) Who understands our struggles because He was tempted in every way are the deal would not have been legitimate. (Hebrews 4:15-16) But He never once gave into sin. So not only did He die on the cross for us but He lived His entire life for us. To save us. That's why death couldn't hold Him down. Because sin=death. He never sinned so He couldn't die in the flesh. He rose in the flesh on the 3rd day. Because He never sinned death couldn't keep Him. There is no dead body of Jesus here on earth. He is in the flesh sitting at the right hand of the Father in Heaven right now. Jesus never sinned yet died to pay for our sins. That's why we all need Him. The only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. If you'd like to go to Heaven just ask God to open your eyes to Him. "If you seek Me with all of your heart you will find Me". Jeremiah 29:13. You have to seek Him and keep seeking Him, keep asking Him with all of your heart because He looks at your heart. Is your heart truly in it? Study God's autobiography which is the Holy Bible. Learn about what He likes and dislikes. Matthew 6&7 is where I started, and the book of James is amazing too. I also love Ecclesiastes. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dfc9ARM2yCA.htmlsi=aItDHM4EMNJDnLmg www.openbible.info/topics/being_born_in_sin
@@chaky2512 I ended up not getting a septum and just got a stud on the left side of my nose and i love it! The reason it hurt was bc i was kinda sick the week before so when i would blow my nose it would irritate it lol
@@sophi463I got my nostril done two weeks ago, while I am still sick, and no amount of blowing my nose is hurting my piercing, same goes for septum, I am a piercer btw, so this is from a professional stand of view
I love how pissed off everyone is that a kid is getting a peircing, I'm upset that it's not peirced properly lol. They entirely missed her sweet spot, which will cause a lot of issues
In southern Nepal the septum piercing is still common. Many older women still adorn their noses with both the septum and left nostril rings. Many women have gold nose piercings to show their social, tribal, and religious status in society.Many lower-class women in rural Bengal still keep this tradition. This practice is now declining as many women prefer the nose studs.The septum piercing is popular in countrysides of India, Nepal, and Bangladesh. In India such piercing is called the 'Nathori' and popular with the Banjara ethnic groups and Adivasi tribes. Lord Krishna and his consort Radharani are often depicted wearing the 'Nathori' style jewel nose pieces.Bengali women traditionally would wear the nathori as a sign of being a married woman.
Sister, We are Indians, We get our ear piercing in a year of our birth n our nose pierced before we get 8 year old. This has a whole lot of health benefits.
I would rather see a kid who is old enough to express themselves (which this one is, I'd guess she's about 6 or 7) get a septum piercing that she presumably wanted, than see an ear piercing forced upon a baby that can't even consent at all. IMHO piercing babies ears should be illegal. Doing any piercing of any kind on any person should be illegal, unless that person requested it themselves. This is known as body autonomy.
Dude its not a big deal. People have been getting piercings for thousands of years in many different cultures around the world. And circumcisions still happen and those are far far worse in my opinion than any piercing.
It's banned here in Texas but mofos will still find a way around it if not them doing it at home with cheap crappy piercing cartridges. I may be biased because I'm into body modification, but I wouldn't let my kid get anything done until they were old enough to consent. Ear piercings would be ok with me as long as it's done safely by a shop. If they want anything else they'll have to wait until highschool. I had to wait until I graduated highschool to get anything done. At least I wouldn't have to worry about getting in trouble for having piercings in school lol.
Even if someone does not want a piercing on the feature there is always the option to remove it. It's not just that it's part of their culture it's also nothing dangerous in the first place , if I had a child who wanted a piercing I would have agreed. There might be a small scar but it's not visible and if it's taken care of properly it won't cause health issues.
@@LiterallyAllNamesAreTakenkeloids are usally small and you can have treatment for them plus if she dosent want it and she gets a keloid then she can take it out or flip it up and nobody will know
Septum piercings really don't hurt at all, for anyone curious about getting one. I've gotten about 15 total (currently only kept 10) on my lips, two bridge, three nose (nostrils and septum), brow, four navel, and too many to count on my ears. Septum was the absolute least painful, it only tickled and pinched a little. I think that's part of the reason they are so common.
Guys, I’ve had my septum done, the pain is so minimal, and the healing was sooo easy. The girl hardly flinched, I think she’ll be okay as long as it’s what she wanted and her parents argreed. As some other comments stated, it is apart of some cultures so.
The healing isn't easy for everyone.. I kept waking up in the night with it throbbing because it was being pushed around and swelling, it was so bad I'd wake up trying to take it out (even though it's not what I wanted consciously). Also, I'm a muscle memory person & learning not to rub my face with a face cloth/ towel and go delicately around the area was incredibly hard. I rubbed cloth on my face during the healing SO many times and caught the piercing every time 😷 it was not good. Saying that, getting the piecring for me was easy, & I know it's not the same in healing for everyone.. but I do feel the need to say it's not always a walk in the park 😅
@@FG-mx5bf I’m sure that many ppl have probably had the same experience as you, me personally I don’t really remember any pain other than when I accidentally tugged it or bumped it, but mine would never throb or hurt when I slept. It healed really quickly for me, only abt 1-2 months it took. She seemed to be pretty calm for a young child getting a needle through their nose, but I can’t say. Everyones pain tolerances are different, so this is js my experience.
Society tends to forget that it’s the parents decision regardless of the country or traditions. Let their children express themselves. Let them raise their kids their ways. It’s that easy
@@pepek1628So how is a septum piercing significant to this persons culture? And saying something is someones culture doest make it morally ok. Is female genital mutilation ok? Well its in the culture?!?!? Lmfao.
I can’t believe someone said child abuse!!! How many babies here in the US get ears done as an infant. Well, in there Country this is just as common as an infant getting ears done here 🇺🇸👍🏽👍🏽🤣👍🏽
this is clearly in their culture its clear as day she isn't crying she is fully aware of what is being done yall need to chill out because I done seen worse in other ppl culture!
Actually No, it’s Not ok to pierce a child’s ears until they are of the age to speak for themselves, and also a child should Not be walking around with a septum piercing it’s looks absolutely stupid and their nose is still growing, it’s Not a smart decision to pierce a part of your face that will continue to grow until you’re an adult. Piercings shifts, and her nose will still grow, many kids regret things they do when they become adults. Adults should be protecting children from those mistakes
Oh- the reason why a child should not get this piercing is because of body development. The piercing will most likely be painful because of her nose developing.
Society has been washed. People forget that in the continents of African and Asian and even America before colonization, piercings and tattoos were cultural not fashionable. A nose ring was even used as a wedding band instead. Even in the Bible when Abraham sent his servant to find a wife for his some the ring was placed on her nose. People need to educate themselves because they either know nothing if culture or they know nothing about their own culture.
man maori kids/teens used to get face tattoos and piercings, I don’t get the supposed uproar over this. septum piercings can be hidden anyways. you can hide the jewelry with it in. and if you take it out, nobody will ever know there’s a hole there.
@@encantada7785 here in America you have to be 16 with parental consent to get anything done. But for ear lobes, my shop recommends kids 5 and up. There's a reason we don't pierce babies. The earrings will look crooked as they grow and their ears get bigger.
I'm American and I don't understand how anyone is against this, its the same as an earlobe piercing its not like they are nipple piercings or something...
It`s not the same tho.. I`m not american btw. I`m also against people getting earlobe piercings before they`re at least 13, and want it themselves. Anyone who actually knows ANYTHING about piercings at all should be against this, including earlobe piercings under a certain age. Also, the way the piercing is done, with her standing up is incredibly dangerous. It`s easy for you to flinch, which can cause the needle to go in wobbly, jaggedy and go through cartilage and such, The piercer should look up through the nose to properly see and hit the soft spot a lot easier as well. The way they`re positioned makes it incredibly difficult for even the best piercers to get it straight and pierce it through the soft spot, instead of piercing though cartilage and getting it too crooked. You should always at the very least be sitting down when getting pierced, preferrably lay down entirely, or sit in a chair that is reclined down. Fainting is a real possibility, and that would be so dangerous for several reasons. People seem to think that age is the ONLY thing that makes this controversial, but that`s not the only thing that makes this entire thing bad and unsafe. Anyone who knows anything about piercings knows very well how wrong this is. This piercing process is just wrong, regardless of age. Age is obvs a big factor here, but far from the only one, as there is so much more that goes in to piercing safety than "just" age.
You saying "it's the same" just shows how ignorant you are when it comes to piercings, which in itself is absolutely fine, BUT being ignorant about a topic yet still feeling confident enough to claim something about said topic that's entirely wrong, is NOT fine. There are 100% legitimate reasons as to why trained, certified, aka actual professional piercers sets minimum age requirements for different piercings, regardless of parental consent.. which is a good thing. There is so much that can go wrong with piercings, regardless of placement.. not just when the piercing is actually getting done, but during the healing process also especially, even after the healing process is it still possible for something to go wrong. C'mon, now.
@@idalarsen2540 yeah i agree with evreything u said except the age thing, im 13 and i love piercings, i have 4 in each ear, a nose ring, a septum, and a belly button ring. i think it really just depends on how mature you are. ive always been alot more mature than everyone else my age, and ive understood the risks. i think the biggest factor shouldnt be age, it should be education. i def think she should have been talked through the process and should have been sitting with her head back..
@@kat-gd6ry Nipple piercings, although also done for esthetic reasons, are more of a sexual thing...like some "other" piercings such as ones done on genitals
Love this! My kids too. No ratios until 21 and we’ve discussed the why and the meeting because everybody to this day who has a tweety bird tattooed from the 90’s on them has big regret!😂😂😂
Piercings can be taken out though. Tattoos are permanent. Let em get piercings, if they don't like it they can take it out. Usually it'll close up eventually even after having them years.
people keep commenting “oh it’s cause her culture” THAT DOESNT FUCKING MAKE IT RIGHT! it’s still not okay to do that and a child that young cannot consent. even if they say they want it, they can’t consent. starting age should be 14, where they can actually consent to it because they have the bodily autonomy and they are able to make rational choices. this is horrible, culture or not
Baby boys get circumcised every day without his consent. At least when she gets older, if she decides she doesn't want it anymore, she can just take it out.
@@johnlong5745circumcision comes with an abundance of health benefits and doesn’t require additional care. I get your sentiment but this is not the same.
is she also underaged for ear piercings? you know septum piercings are the only piercing that can be completely hidden and if you remove it you cant even see the hole?
I saw a comment saying that they believe this piercing will get you into heaven. Genuinely curious as to why? I’m pretty sure that if God saw you die and you didn’t have the piercing but had full faith in him and a heart full of love for him and abided by his commandments and repented of sins, he would take you despite you not having a septum ring.
Something being cultural doesn’t excuse something being wrong lmao , in like every general thing not only when it comes to piercings, culture is supposed to be appreciated and celebrated, not SACRED I’m North African and since idk how long people have pierced ears very young , SURELY when piercing guns became a thing , people get their kids pierced as young as NEWBORNS, babies, and young toddlers even just kids her age that cannot consent to this even if they naively say yes shouldn’t be pushed into this So no , nothing « cultural » it’s just « a thing » , and even if it was cultural, can they consent to that? No , can piercing guns be sterilized ? Disinfected? Or even properly sanitized? No (how 90% get it done) , Does but the infant at risk of infection ? Catching a very bad contagious disease? Or just their immune system being able to handle an infection just fine? No , Should piercing guns ever be allowed ? No, for other billion reasons If he did it with a piercing needle , well... that’s at least one point for him , but that’s a child , her nose it gonna grow and develop more than that so it will probably not be positioned the same, and piercings require a cleaning routine , AND JUST THE FACT that he accepts giving piercings to such young kids should be enough for his business to be shut
i'm american and i have my septum pierced and 2 of my three children have it and the third will when they're old enough. that's the problem with kids now, no rights of passage.
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Yall always defend unsafe choices, especially towards children, with "culture". Idc, no child under the age of 13 should be getting anything pierced anywhere in the world.
thankkkkuuuuuu!!! Also if we were to forget about the age (which we shouldn`t), the piercing practice is still so wrong. It`s very, very possible for the blood sugar to drop to the point where you faint, or nearly faint. It`s almost entirely impossible to not flinch/move while standing up with only your two feets balancing you and holding you still. One should always lay down, child or adult, in case of fainting. The piercer should also be able to look upwords towards the nose, not down below the nose like in this video. It`s nearly impossible to get it right and straight, and hit the soft spot instead of the cartilage when the piercer is unable to see up the nose.
It's a cultural thing in India. In Latin America piercing both ears from a baby girl is pretty normal too. Mine were pierced when I barely had 1 month old
Idc about if it's a culture thing or not do you really think a 6 year old will clean and make sure their piercings won't get infected? I can't even see some adults doing it right idk
@@yourparentingsucks2215 Excuse me? Who do you think you are? You get no say in her or her familys culture. That is their business not yours. Her parents will keep it clean and will do a great job at it. So stfu and go back to ur boring ass life.
If it’s for a cultural purpose it’s fine but I wouldn’t recommend it since the child is still growing and her face will grow and get bigger this causing different anatomy. But if it has no cultural significance and they are just doing it for the aesthetics {whether the kid consents or not} I highly recommend to not do it.
Incredibly irresponsible as her nose is still growing she’s still just a child. If it’s culture/tradition there’s a reason some of those traditions are better left in the past
Y’all need to calm tf down everyone’s culture is different just deal with it this isn’t child abuse it’s just a piercing she can take it out anytime she wants she’s not dying 😂
exactly. and if she did take it out, nobody would ever even know she had a piercing. nobody would ever see the hole. unlike literally every other piercing, such as ear piercings that white chicks love to give their daughters by age 2. And even if she didn’t take out the septum, you can flip them upwards and hide them in your nose. literally the least harmful/life altering piercing possible. and least painful in my opinion. Pierced mine at home with a thumbtack on a whim. and just upped it to 12 gauge. Plan on going all the way to zero 😂. And not a soul would know whenever I took it out, unlike if you stretched your earlobes. doing that leaves you with flaps of skin dangling from your ears for life
@@gamertag5030 septum’s aren’t pierced through cartilage. If you pierced your cartilage you did it very wrong. They’re pierced through the thin flap of skin between the cartilage and flesh of your septum/bottom of your nose. But some people don’t have that and can’t get that piercing. And it’s not a permanent hole. It closes pretty quick if you take your jewelry out. Nor is it noticeable like stretched earlobes are if you decide to stretch it.
She's from India like me and we have culture of nose piercing and we r totally fine with it sp stop judging others, m glad my parents get my nose and eat pierced when i was young
Not with a gauge that small. Damage to the septum starts to happen when the gauges are bigger. This is no different from a parent getting their child's ear pierced. Just a different location
The crazy amount of positive comments speaking about cultural differences and traditions...I mean, I get the sentiment and all but I need to point out that whether or not someone's culture and traditions say something is okay - it doesn't make it less dangerous from a medical standpoint. And as body piercers, we kinda sign up for the responsibility of giving our clients what they want -within- what is reasonably medically safe and what is medically dangerous. That's just...kinda the bottom line at the end of the day.