"Living Famously - Karen Carpenter" BBC Documentary 

yes.

Sherri Lamascus Yes, Brilliant Beautiful and Heavenly ♥️

CARPENTERS> ANOINTED & ORDAINED by God to impact USA during Dark Turmoil of division > They Shot Up like a METEOR by God's Hand (15 Mega Hits & 20+M Sales in just 1st 4 yrs.) a 'Consecutive Hits' Record today 2021 > now 150+M Sales incl. '1M' Solo album by Karen (1980) released '1996'.

Karen Carpenter was a beautiful singer, 💐💐, a wonderful drummer, 🥁💐💐, she collected teddy bears, she like chocolates ( even though she had anorexia), and she was a sweet, kind person 💖💖💖💖💖!! It's very sad that she died so young and I'm sure that she is in heaven singing with the angels 💐💐🌹🌹🙏🙏💛💛💛💛💛!!!

My wife and I will like to pray for you, if you don't mind. Even though I haven't experienced Anorexia Nervosa, I have suffered from depression and anxiety all my life. I have counseled women who were recovering anorexics. God bless you and your family. 💙

You have summed it up correct!!! No one can help you, with how you feel inside but you, I don't know the answer, it's hard, I just try surving each day!!!!! 🐩🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@@richardea4223 what a wonderful couple you are!!!!!! 🐩🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

I wish you well always. Life is worth living and everyone is special in their own right

I too have included her n my prayer when pray for my parents, brother and sister, in my mind i imagine she had been singing d Ave Maria which Richard favored that Karen will sing n d finale of their last Christmas Portrait...her voice oh so beautiful☺️☺️😍🤓

Wow. Excellent post. You nailed it. And that kind of family dynamic can cause irreparable harm, and sometimes even death for some, as in this case. It's still so heartbreaking to me what happened to the beautiful soul, Karen Carpenter. And I am so sorry that you have had to deal with such similar circumstances within a family. I wish Karen could have found the strength to just "walk away" from her family long enough to get the help she needed, and to heal from her upbringing and damaging family dynamics. She just ran out of time. Bless her.

Or maybe it was just the timing of the births and the first child with musical inclinations happened to be male. Seems more likely since the mother is the one driving the family dynamic in this case. Sorry for what you went through but confirmation bias is way more of an enemy to the best humanity has to offer than sexism and misogyny ever were.

If Heaven is the pleaser, Karen's behind a drum kit now. That's where HER heart was.

You took the words right out of my mouth. For me she is still here. Such a Nice girl.

listening to Karen sing was like a summer with a thousand july's she was the best no one else today can top her.

Ringoette

Not Impressed - After RU-vid, maybe. People who only knew her through her recordings might have missed that.

@@GH-oi2jf get real

nikki ray And what did Richard/family and A&M boss around about her huh? They did nothing . They were not health care professionals.

Lynne Gravador Because they did nothing

Uh, and you knew them how? You know nothing about any of these folks. The facts are inconvenient, but here we go: Richard began Spectrum and the trio, he let his little sis participate (my brother would NEVER had done this), he stood up for his sister for the rest of her life, he encouraged her to sing because she was gifted --oh gee, how awful of someone to let a sibling know that she was extremely gifted and should take center stage. You are an idiot and should be banned from making comments.

Concerned4 USA - former anorexic here (and Army brat) and my mother was a lot like Karen's mom. My parents like Karen's wanted nothing to do with the therapy process and hated my therapist. They thought there was nothing wrong with our family or me and that I just had to eat. My ED started 2 years after Karen died. My therapist knew Karen's therapist and I'm grateful he told her how Karen really died. It saved my life.

@@Lori_L I'm pretty sure that was an ethics violation, just saying...because just going in for drug counselor, you're not even allowed to admit you knew someone you treated, much less what was going on with them. Because if that's ok, you can see where her privacy rights are easily violated, dead or not, yes? Got a similar lecture in real estate. They don't want you to discuss ANYTHING you did with a client. And they were very specific about forever, if they're dead or not, also. just saying. The guy shouldn't have said anything directly pertaining to or about her. Wouldn't you be mortified if it were you?

@Vishal Ithape. I would put Karen Carpenter and Judy Garland in a tie for first place as the two greatest female singers of all-time with honorable mention to Julie Andrews and Marilyn McCoo.

Agree. I was aghast at a recent documentary with Richards "no one realised how ill she was". Um, your sister was a skeleton. A s also I didn't know mum & Richard sabotaged her attempt to go solo (which says it all, she was really unhappy with their forced collaboration).

Not dead vausville

Yeah, thats what I was thinking too. If i was her brother, and she was down to 78lbs, then the shows stop!! I do get the sense "The Carpenters" came first before her personally. Those around her failed her terribly.

@@sarahholland1375 , They knew she wasn't eating and then throwing up with the aid of medicine which what damaged her heart. She put on 30lb.'s before she passed. She had a mother and brother that only cared about the bottom line $$$$. Plus Richard had his own issues with Quaaludes for some time and went to rehab. Overbearing mother who's world was Richard not Karen. All she wanted was to get married and have kids with a nice house. very sad...........32 yr.'s old too young.

Sarah holland Karen loved collaborating with Richard.

I wish she had!

Mike Batule - going by information provided by interviews of Karen's friends and colleagues, the therapist was totally on point. It seems like the people getting upset in these threads are those that think the family was loving and supportive.

you realize you wrote that comment on her birthday?

Scott H She was loving.

^that's bullshit

Did you know the family, or are you going on the media clips? Because media is always about truth, NOT sensationalism (ha ha). Honestly, everyone who knew Agnes and Karen commented on how loving Agnes was and how much she cared about and supported her child. I'm not sure if you have children, but if you do, you should hope and pray they don't throw you under the bus the way you have thrown people you don't even know.

Who read "Little Girl Blue?" That story is Truth. Mother Agnes was cold, ' hands off', stubborn & willful. She outwardly showed favoritism to Richard constantly while shunning Karen aside, even after they were famous. YES, she made irrevocable mistakes that damaged Karen, who was vulnerable & impressionable.

Yes, I read somewhere or seen a video somewhere that her mother showed favoritism towards Richard. Not know how true that was. Just what I heard. If it's true, that would be devastating to a person, young or old.

Alex Cockell - He didn’t “yank” her. Richard was all about the music and the performance. Putting Karen up front was better for the group. For a time, she played drums on some numbers and came up front for others.

@@GH-oi2jf She was called the cubby singer, which nobody can see behind drums (I'm a drum.major). That exacerbated her problem. And even knowing all the stuff about syrup of ipecac and such, you'll STILL find people looking for it online! Even tho we KNOW, for a fact, she had a LOT of it in her system and it ate her heart up.

That was the record producers who wanted her out front, not Richard.

I'll bet you were nowhere near 99 lbs. Any adult that gets to 99 lbs will see it in themself, they just choose to ignore it.

@@TheLarryBrown Why are you bothering this comment is 7 yrs old😂🤣

@@ettydavis Because others read them...?

no1cfielder - She was 15 lbs below ideal weight for her height at the time of her death. Perhaps not “emaciated,” but “scrawny.”

@@GH-oi2jf She was only like 5'4. That would have looked like a lot. Have a look at her last interviews...she looks like she died before she died.

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 She did look very ill. So sad.

Actually, that quote is from the 1996 article in the Times by Rob Hoerburger. That quote is completely faulty as it is impossible for a person to own another person's love as well as impossible to own someone else's voice. Try this page as it includes the stuff most of these things leave out because it wrecks their stories www.theeaceman.com/karenlastdays.html . The ones trying to control Karen weren't her family. Karen's family were the ones that Karen turned to when she had others that were trying to control her. Karen had a great career with A&M Records while Phil Ramone couldn't keep steady clients which was all Phil's fault that he couldn't keep a steady clientele.

@@adriandowningiii8395 What are you talking about? It's totally true. Everyone knows that Richard was the favorite. They made Karen get out from behind the drums to sing because they thought it worked better. Karen always considered herself a drummer who sang. Eating disorders are about control. She couldn't control anything else in her life but she could control her weight.

@@mercuryfever392 Karen considered herself a baseball pitcher who played drums and sang for a living. You need these two pages here www.theeaceman.com/karenlastdays.html and www.theeaceman.com/rantnrave.html . Originally (1971) they brought Jim Squeglia in and Karen would sing and play drums on the fast songs and during the slow songs, Jim would play drums while Karen sang front stage. In 1972 they brought in Cubby O'Brien and made Karen center stage singing on all songs and added in a drum solo routine with Karen and Cubby. Not everyone is gullible. Some are smart enough to ask questions when things don't seem to add up right. Not everyone who has anorexia is "Starving for Attention" like Cherry Boone and that [blanked] up anorexic profile that doesn't match 80 to 90% of anorexics (Karen included). And gullible as in if someone honestly thinks that people that never knew or met Karen or claim to be best friends but don't seem to know anything personal about Karen and try to 'mind read' and 'second guess' know more about Karen than those that actually did know her than may I interest you in purchasing the Brooklyn Bridge? And with that, Richard had posted a lot on an old computer bulletin board back in the day and saved many of the questions he got from fans on this web site www.richardandkarencarpenter.com and just click on the 'fans ask' button and there are multiple sections and massive amounts of discussions there direct from Richard. This area is a massive treasure trove of accurate information about the Carpenters and personal information about Karen as well. I have checked it all over and it is 100% accurate information. A massive treasure trove. If looking for information, that Fans Ask section is the place to go. Try this page too www.theeaceman.com/goodbyetolovecrock.html and this page too www.theeaceman.com/littlegirlblue.html . And oops, true, Richard was mom's favorite. And more true was that Karen never wanted to be 'favorite' and loved being 'the black sheep'. Favorites follow the rules and have their ducks in a row and all that while black sheep tend to bend the rules and let their ducks wander a bit. So anyone trying to insinuate that Karen was wanting to be a favorite doesn't know Karen at all and probably doesn't know the difference between a burro and a burrow either.

Interesting!

The guy gets two superstars 55 years ago and now one else measures up.

drummerkid71 her low weight led to her death, and they are discussing her life which, sadly, ended too soon.

@@SuperFeefer It was the syrup.of ipecac. It's why you can't find it anymore, even though a ton of sickos are STILL looking for it. The vomit inductor ate her heart. Nobody at 32 dies of heart attacks. It's pretty rare. I'm betting they sued and won, which is why it went off the shelves immediately after she died as I recall...

#1 The idea that someone would starve/poison/vomit/shit themself to death was not known at the time. Of course it's obvious to you, you're talking 40 years later. #2: It was not "mainly" disco. It featured two or three disco inspired tracks. #3: Carpenters was a gigantic money making machine. It's not hard to think that scores of people wanted to protect it. #4: Richard was 100% of the brains that built an incredible act and sound that shattered the world to this day. He would not be "relegated" to anything. You don't understand that superstar producers like Richard, Mutt Lange, the guys from ABBA, Emilio Estefan, Don Kirschner, Quincy Jones, Phil Spector, and George Martin are at least equal contributors to the final product.

I didn't care for that album at all. It's easily findable here on YT. It sounds dated and I imagine it did when it would have come out. Another example of that dated sound is Marvin Gaye's "I want you" the sofa video vs the yucky album version. The 1st is a million times better. Bad sound and all.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Sarah. And unfortunately, those thoughts are based on stuff that is poorly researched and many pieces of information are left out that contradicts the 'story' certain ones are wishing to tell. Try this page for a fuller picture of what happened with Karen based on her autopsy report and a person that knew Karen very well and actually talked with Karen instead of 'second guessing' and 'mind reading' that most of those crockumentaries thrive on. www.theeaceman.com/karenlastdays.html . And as an example here, everyone knows that Karen had developed hepatitis from having a tattoo removed in mid to late January 1983 or didn't they? And so much more...

She's dead long ago. Don't you think he should move on? And even if you don't, don't you think he should be "allowed" to move on? Pain is something you want to put behind you, not something you want to continue to relive for decades.

Feel the same way re Richard....something about him does not sit right with me. All about the "music" and that was ultimately all that mattered. The whole family was hugely dysfunctional and living in denial as to how that dysfunction was literally killing Karen.

His feelings for his sister isn't your business or anybody else's. Maybe he keeps them to himself because it's to painful and doesn't want to share that with the whole damn world.

@@larrymead151 It's so tragic how that family failed her. Shameful!

@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide Virtually nobody knew about anorexia so we can't assume anything. Richard said he knew something was wrong but he had his own addiction to deal with. Only he knows what happened in the family and I've never heard of him speaking of that. We can't assume and point fingers without knowing everything involved.

Try this Maria www.theeaceman.com/karenlastdays.html . They always leave stuff out and change things to tell stories instead of what happened.

No it's not hard. It's totally impossible.

What a thoroughly revolting comment.

Ya think? Aren't we all?

+Allen M. Quinn COMPLETELY agree. She knows nothing about any of the family members. Anorexia is extremely complex: we really don't know what causes it, but if every dysfunctional family produced an anorexic daughter, there would be more anorexics than not. Now the evidence suggests a strong genetic component. The fact that this idiot therapist who has NEVER MET any of the Carpenters thinks she has anything to say is simply absurd.

I can't stand her either! Her commentary gets on my nerves. And I'm sick of people bashing her family.

YES! 100% agree, Marsena, Alexa, and Allen. This idiot should never have been allowed a forum to denigrate people she has never met. Shame on her!

+Ariana Bascombe skad takie komentarze? rownie dobrze cala rodzina Carpenter nie znala Karen bo nie potrafila jej pomoc....zostawmy oceny odpowiednio przygotowanym i wyposazonym w wiedze specjalistyczna i zyciowa bo ktoz z nas zna Carpenterow by miec odwage przeczyc wypowiedziom innych lub je potwierdzac?

@@arianabascombe7840 LOL. Was that a saracastic joke?

C'mon, he said "Kinda." Mixed metaphors.....love 'em.

Try this www.theeaceman.com/karenlastdays.html . I appreciate your comments and insightfulness. There is a bit more though as some things weren't made public and the big one that a lot of that psychobabble type stuff trying to make Karen appear to be like Cherry Boone and her book "Starving for Attention" just don't hold up in the real world so a lot of information has been purposely left out or altered or stories cut short by those telling stories rather than what actually happened. As an example here, the publicly released autopsy (17 pages) tries to support claims of anorexia (while Karen is listed as having a normal weight of 108 pounds?) while the full autopsy report (25 pages) negates the anorexia claims while showing that Karen passed away from a diabetic coma (Toxicology report has Karen's glucol [blood sugar] level at above 1100 which is fatal).