basically we don't like to compare each others, but instead we love enjoy each others.. we love to visit Krabi, hatyai.. also always love to visit bandung, medan, danao toba.. but at the same time we proud of our country for the langkawi, Penang, until Sarawak and Sabah.. by the way, welcome to kuching...
Malaysia most advantage is their location is very stratergic. You can easily drive with your own vehicle to neighborhood country like Singapore or Thailand. Meanwhile in east Malaysia you can easily drive your own vehicles from Kuching, Malaysia to Kalimantan, Indonesia. Also you can go to Philippines by car ferry from Sabah, Malaysia.
Oh.. I forgot to mention about Brunei..in East Malaysia their also have road network for 3 countries.. East Malaysia - Kalimantan, Indonesia - Brunei Darussalam..
Thailand's geography is much more strategic than Malaysia. In the past, Thailand survived from Colonisation because it's a buffer state between French Indochina and British Malaya &Burma. Nowadays, Bangkok have a new Bangsue Grand station which is a real centre for regional high-speed train connecting from Southern China, Laos to Malaysia & Singapore and can go to Myanmar, Cambodia and Vietnam, too. KL Central can't really beat this more central and modern one in Bangkok. To sum up, Thailand's strategic location is second to none in this region.
For muslims, Malaysia is better to live in because easy to obtain halal food, many mosques, friendly people, good whether, fairly safe and fairly good infrastructure.
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Malaysia is more developed, more diverse in everything, much better English speaking, better transportation options inside and outside the country. I’d definitely vote for Malaysia. Regards from Italy
I’m living in Thailand on a 5 year elite visa and am considering moving to Malaysia after my visa is due. Thailand is quite backwards on many ways. The traffic and lack of footpath are not fun. Corrupt government, messy legal system, etc. I hope Malaysia is better.
Thailand is definitely a great place for a holiday and fun place to visit. To stay on a long-term basis, Malaysia is obviously better. Each has its strength. One for a holiday home and one for your daily grind.
@@alam_nature Sounds like Mexico then if you can't even trust that the police won't rob you. The police robbed my mom and step dad in Puerto Vallarte, Mexico.
I’ll choose Malaysia because the country feel like you live in develop country during summer(at least 70% vibe feel). Thailand is quite messy especially on the road with almost every second you can hear peoples honking each other, the cables is super messy, street illegal stalls etc, but Thailand is a great place to visit or live no longer than a year. Just my opinion if you don’t agree i don’t care.
@@NomadElite Healthcare, language/ease of communication, affordability. Since Malaysia is a net Oil & Gas producing country, it has a direct cost on daily needs like food, transportation, etc.
@@RB-rp6ud Been to two countries Health care in Thailand is not inferior to Malaysia or perhaps better. There are many leading hospitals or clinics to choose from, either government or private
@@georegbyrne7351 Healthcare in both countries are good. At one time Thailand was a leading in medical tourism hub but in the last few years Malaysia has caught up due to its high quality on par or better than Singapore & affordability.
Thank you for such thoughtful sharing and balanced comparison about Thailand and Malaysia... I'm Malaysian btw, love my country but also love my Southeast Asian neighbours...only had been to Thailand and Vietnam so far... I'd love to visit Cambodia (I've watched your video about Cambodia too so thank you for that as well) at some point and the rest of SE Asia...new to your channel..and subscribed 😊✌️
Having visited Thailand 4 times and Malaysia 5 times, I would retire in both of these countries but overall Malaysia would suit me best for a quite a few reasons but I wouldn't mind retiring n Bangkok and Southern Thailand.
@@jnsa9454 More diverse, English proficiency, good infrastructure and because I'm a Muslim so it is more easier to adapt (Masjids to pray, Halal food everywhere), and less party life!!
I met a woman online from the Malaysia island of Penang that was born and raised there. I was surprised that her English was a good as the Filipinas. She laughed and said that on the island of Penang English is their second language. She was very nice and wanted to date me. She was very open minded. She had tatoos and liked to wear short shorts. I do not know what religion she was. Someday maybe I will visit Malaysia. I started out by dating a woman in the Philippines for a year, but I did not like the lifestyle in the Philippines, so I came to Thailand and have been going to Thailand for many years and I love Thailand! I plan to eventually relocate there for work.
Thank you very much for your opinion, for countries have their own strengths. which country is better is dependent on their lifestyle and budget. Your opinion is on your lifestyle and budget that are affordable in east Malaysia.
I’d like to apply for the Established Entrepreneurial Visa. I have the business and the bank records, invoices, shopify website / product. I’ve had the business for 7-8 years. However, I’ve mostly been outside of the US and have spent the majority of my time outside of the US. Therefore I do not have the TAX records. Could I still qualify for the 5 year visa for myself and my family? We love Malaysia more than You can imagine. My wife is Korean and children are young and we want a wholesome country to live. We want to be in Penang Malaysia. God Bless’
They want to see proof of business performance which include bank statements and tax records. It doesn’t need to be a US company. As long as you can prove some good numbers, you should be good to go. I can help you with getting that visa and handling the application for you. Let me know if this sounds good to you.
Malaysia have many public holidays😃. No other country that will truly celebrate religious festivals together e.g. Eid, Chinese New Year, Diwali, Christmas, Gawai ect.
For family life.. Malaysia.. Better education, healthcare and more or less like developed countries.. For single people that want a very good night life.. Of course Thailand
Hi, FYI, Sarawak MM2H program has changed to require bank deposit with pension income and you must stay 30 days in the country annually. It's still a much better deal than Malaysia MM2H program.
@@NomadElite S-MM2H also you can't reside in West Malaysia ( Kuala Lumpur / Penang ) either. New incoming Prime Minister too so things may change again. Some expats would prefer the lifestyle in KL / Penang so that is a problem.
I'm considering Malaysia but only qualify under S-MM2H income requirements (US$2000 month). I've been to KL and Penang but not Kuching yet. What would you estimate rental prices for a furnished 1 bedroom condo/serviced apartment in upscale areas such as Georgetown or KLCC/Bukit Bintang? What would be a comparable neighborhood in Kuching?
KLLC can be very expensive and you may end up paying well over $1,000 a month for a luxury apartment. Penang is relatively cheap. I doubt you’d pay more than $500 for a nice 1 bedroom apartment.
Kuching got a large middle class and the city is very safe. There are a couple of high rise buildings but not too many. Stayed in Tabuan Jaya. I really like that city and it’s best to check out some neighborhoods.
@@NomadElite, yes... Tabuan Jaya is a pretty upcoming place. I agree with that place. I have to say that the lack of tall building is a good one. Kuching has beautiful sunsets.
All countries have their negative and positive side. Eg bangkok is bigger in population than kl. Therefore there will be more traffic and pollution. But bangkok has a vibrant nightlife compared to kl (subdue). In malaysia, the bad roads are in borneo, not peninsula. In borneo the roads are bad with potholes. Of course they are building the pan borneo highway now. Cost a lot of money. Malaysia is hot in terms of the weather. People wise..both have nice people.
Malaysia is always the best. English speaking everywhere, superb infrastructure including trains and roads, Internet connectivity almost in every part of the country and the best part is your spending ie cost of living here probably less thn 50% thn in The US.
For retirement, Malaysia is better, since senior citizen prefers relax, laid back and less hectic city or country side life. Thailand is suitable for 'young hearts' 😄
As indonesian visiting both country, i choose Malaysia for living and Thailand for Tourism, the quality of life obviously malaysia in the top after Singapore
@@Kipper1997 😂😂😂 the fact is... Kuala Lumper is so small, the area is just like 1/6 of Bangkok.it's nit big city, so small. Many Malaysian watch Thai series, movies, thdy know Thai actor, actress but Thai never interested in any of Malaysian movies, Malaysian come to travel in Thailand a lot, but not many Thai going to Malaysia for travel, they just go for business, but we prefered go travelling to Vietnam, Japan, Korean Malaysia income mostly from petro, without petro they will be poorer. Chinese Malaysia is the head, local Muslim is labor. haha the developed area of Malaysia is so small, the rest is underdeveloped. Lotus Supermarket was take over by Thai company, million of Malaysian go to buy things in Lotus that have 62 branches in Malaysia. 😆 we bring your money back to Thailand. Being Malaysian is such unhappy, people are nit good looking, unless Chinese Malay. Malay food is just mix from many countries and then said this is Malay food, wtf !!
@@musicgreatboy SO proud of that Lotus. WE can easily boycott them. We only buy from Lotus because of previous Tesco. Do you want to know the power of our socmed if we were to boycott Lotus?? I have screenshot your comments. You are under our watch. Watch out!
I'm a little bit sad because you only mention Sabah couple times. Mostly you only highlights between Sarawak and Peninsular Malaysia. If you can and have the time, try to live few weeks in Sabah and give you options about Sabah too. We got the Highest mountain in SEA and many beautiful islands all over the country. Wish that you'll read my comments.. overall comments, the truth are the best. 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
That’s because Sarawak have different MM2H compared to the rest of Malaysia Sabah included. No need to be left out. I’m from Terengganu I don’t see the need for my state’s name to be mentioned.
My choices will be Penjang & Hua Hin. It'll be great to be able to retire and travel between these places semi long trerm and still call Australia home.😄
Thailand. Thailand is Buddhist and therefore more liberal - for example much more accepting of those in the LGBT+ Community. Both countries have pros and cons. If you're Muslim Malaysia is obvious choice. I can't imagine a Jewish person wanting to live in Malaysia.
Malaysia is a Muslim country. Cigarettes and liquor are forbidden to Muslims. Even though they do not prohibit foreigners, residents will feel that and in school They also do not encourage women to play sports. If you are a person of another religion You will have a small society if you are Muslim. Malaysia will be a very good place. for Thailand Thai means freedom You can do anything. That does not cause other people to suffer, no matter what religion they are, they have equal rights.
Wow, didn't know about the Sarawak Second Home Visa and that the all was West Visa requirements. 10,000 per month include a child at 11 yrs old? Thanks!
I'd make a list of 10 things I want my future home country to have and tick the checkboxes for each country I have on my list. Whatever country is the most complete is the country I'd choose. You probably won't find a place that's a 10/10 but if you can find one that's an 8 out of 10 then that place is worth considering.
In Hua hin, Thailand I found only old couple westerner tourists on the beach. So in Thailand, there are not only for parties but there are many places for family and old couple
As a Malaysian, the ideal situation would be: 1) Work in SG 2) Live in MY 3) Spends hard earned moolahs in TH or ID or PH Yeap! What a wonderful world hahaha
it’s really hard to find english comments from thais. normally, when it comes to comparison between the two countries you could only expect opinions from malaysians as they are way better at english than their neighbors.
It's true that, in general, Malaysian have better English than Thai. Anyway, the point that you don't find many English comments here from Thai people because many Malaysian always brag about their country whereas most Thai people won't and don't really care about comparision with Malaysia. I hope you can find educated Thai to converse with you in pretty fluent English some days. Btw, I'm Thai😊
@@ytexplorer7977 No way!! In any languauges on this planet, the world know that Malaysian is no.1 big mouth with the rest of Southeast Asian countries. Thai people usually care to compare with more obvious developed country like Japan!! Good night, mate!!
I would say both countries have equally good variety places to visit. In most cases, foreigners only look at Peninsular Malaysia & forget about Sabah & Sarawak which has so many places to visit.
I’m curious about your comment that more Thais than Malaysians would think dating a Westerner or foreigner to be an “upgrade”. As an Asian, it is my experience that most Asian families think dating a foreigner, especially westerner, brings embarrassment, even shame, to the family. It takes a very special foreigner a long time and much goodwill and good behaviour to be accepted by an Asian family.
To live in? Thailand goes without saying. Malaysia is a Muslim majority country so unless you're a Muslim yourself, chances are you will feel restricted in some ways. Some cities/towns might be more restrictive than others depending on how conservative the people are. Some even practice Shariah laws. Some schools force the students to wear hijab even when they're not Muslims.
Great content. I am seriously considering both to live and date. Can you do a video with more specifics on areas outside of KL to date? Also are age gap relationships very possible in Malaysia? Thank you
I would like to give you some homework for you about Thailand. The places you should visit more because I didn't see in your video, are Khaoyai, Kanchanaburi, Kho Samed, and Pattaya. These places are all close to Bangkok and have ton of tourist attractions and so much to offer.
Thanks for the tips! I've been to Pattaya and Ratchaburi, much better options IMO. Some people really love living in big cities and no matter how much more balance they'd get by moving to the suburbs or smaller cities/towns, they just won't budge.
Having visited the 2 countries ( Malaysia and Thailand ) , you are right on the target. Great and knowledgeable video. Thank you. BTW for entrepreneurs in South East Asia the next big economy and business opportunities could be Indonesia. This country is like 1979 China opening to the world, Big market ( 275 millions people) rich with a young population and natural resources.
Malaysia has better quality of life, cleaner and safer, ease of moving around and interaction. I even like Malaysia food more than Thai. But Malaysia can be quite boring, it lacks the vibes of Bangkok and the fantastic Thai market culture. Thailand is an agricultural country so it has more seafood, fruits, etc. But KL is a pretty modern beautiful city compare to Bangkok. If you are single male, love the night scenes and bar, and now weed, find easy girls, then Thailand is for you. However you may find girls easily in Thailand, but unless you speak Thai, your relationship with the girl is purely sexual, you give her money in exchange for sex. Once the money stops, she will find another farang. You think love....? Dating is also easy in Malaysia if you spend some time, getting to know the locals. You can not find a girlfriend in 3 days in Malaysia. But then you will have more lasting meaningful relationship with educated Malaysian girls. For me I will definitely live in KL and every few months, I will fly to Bangkok for few days or weeks to chill out, then I have the best of both worlds. Both cities are great.
Dude you were comparing Thai bar girls with normal educated middle class girls in Malaysia. Do you know that in Thailand there are also normal educated girls, who came from middle class and above, who are not working at night bar? Like it’s weird that you just compare bar girls and normal girls, it’s weird and stereotypes af. like you think all Thai girls working in night bars?
I mean if all Thai girl just chase after the farang, in that case by now majority of Thai children should be mix western look and speak English but no, majority of people still are Thai look and still can’t speak English.
@@Stephanie-vf8uk 100% True Stephanie = "mabok and jahanam" in Thailand 'coz My Western Guy Friends have shared 'Their Horrifying Yet True Nightmare Stories Of & From Thailand' i.e. ' The Pattaya Plunge ' & then told Me "How Classy & Lovely MALAYSIA Is On All Levels & The Best Ever/Highest Quality Asian/South East Asian Country"
100% True Yattmann "mabok n jahanam" in Thailand 'coz My Western Guy Friends have shared 'Their Horrifying Yet True Nightmare Stories Of & From Thailand' i.e. ' The Pattaya Plunge ' & then told Me "How Classy & Lovely MALAYSIA Is On All Levels & The Best Ever/Highest Quality Asian/South East Asian Country"
Also Folks : In Regards To '[supposedly] dating in thailand' = I've also had So Very Many Western Guy Friends scammed/duped into 'thai wedding ceremonies' where the thai woman/thai women & her so-called "family"/"family members" ask : actually, more like Demand for the "sin sod" which are huge amounts of $$$$$$$$ as a "dowry" from the "farangs" aka Western Men & then the [same] thai woman/women never wants to legalizes the "thai wedding/marriage" nor make the thai wedding/marriage official in any way (on paper) because that same thai woman/thai women has/have already non legally "thai married" other "farang"/Western & Other Men which are Unknown To The Man/Men/Purposely Not Revealed To The Other Man/Men or those same thai women want to "marry"/keep "marrying" other "farangs" & Non-thai Men for 'sin sod monies' while Never Legalizing any of those other 'thai weddings/marriages' too so that those same thai women can claim/take/keep taking money from all of their "farang & non thai husbands" until Those Men completely run outta money & then : those same thai women move on very quickly to the next "farang" & non thai Man especially for [More] Money, The Green Cards & Immigration Especially To Western Countries & then = rinse & repeat in Other [Especially Western] Countries & which has to be stopped Y'All : 100% True Stories. Trust & Believe : Do Not 'date' thai women if you're not a thai yourself.
Malaysia is quite popular with Muslim expatriates from Africa, Arabs or other South-East Asian Muslims. But most the Western expatriates or tourists will skipped Malaysia
Do you have data for that or just assume things from images that you see. Before pandemic malaysia had 39mil visitors and even though Malaysia is popular among the Muslims because of halal food which is an important consideration when traveling but a large chunk of visitors are actually Chinese, Singaporeans, Japanese, Koreans and Indonesian. But because these people look similar to us, only the Arabs stand out to look like tourists. Western tourists have to travel further compared to the Asian tourists so it makes sense that the majority of our tourists are Asian.
Very true when you mentioned about dating to other ethnic groups other than muslim group (very important to the foreigners). Dating muslim is a NO-GO-ZONE (to save your heartache). The Malaysian Chinese are pretty well educated in general, elites in their own field, well to do and most of them spend time educated and living in the western world for a while and pretty exposed and work in the corporate world and successfully (hence this got to do with the quota system in Malaysia if you understand the education class system) and can command few languages professionally well. This group of Chinese Malaysians normally also holding western passport. Hence I can understand when Nomad Elite says they don't need any "upgrade". They don't after your passport and $$ .Similar to the Thai Chinese in Thailand if you can differentiate them (most don't). You don't find them in the bars or massage places. This video is pretty much spot on. I can live in Thailand or Malaysia depends on what sort of quality of life you would like to be surrounded by the people and know where to look for them.
@NomadElite. I’m curious about your comment that more Thais than Malaysians would think dating a Westerner or foreigner to be an “upgrade”. As an Asian, it is my experience that most Asian families think dating a foreigner, especially westerner, brings embarrassment, even shame, to the family. It takes a very special foreigner a long time and much goodwill and good behaviour to be accepted by an Asian family.
@HA Snapshot That's great! My favorite city in Malaysia. I lived at Tabuan Heights, Lorong Song to be exact! Do you have Facebook? Would be great to connect with you. Thank you.
To date a malay, it is the religious restriction you have to prepare for it. eg you must eat halal food. Or to get married you must convert to islam. Borneo people are more open minded compared to west malaysia. There are christian natives in borneo. Fair skin. Look like chinese but are not.
@@NomadElite people there are more tolerant compared to peninsula. This is my feedback as a malaysian. Peninsula has to much religious radicalism or malay supremist / nationalism that can break the harmony of the country.
Malaysia use to be the biggest tourist country visiting thailand before China beat Malaysia few years ago. Malaysians love cheap boost and many pork to eat. Very Yummy. But in Malaysia, Islam is very rigid in culture. Cannot enjoy partying much. I even know muslims from Malaysia go to Thailand to have good spa and happy ending.
