Lizardmen Legendary Lord Power Comparison 

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16:47 "Lizardmen arent the richest faction in the game by a long shot." Maybe they would, if they would stop covering everything, including themselves in Gold!

Mazdamundi in lore: I’m gonna make a sentient mountain range to stop DE attacks and correct the tectonic plates because I’m bored and it’s bothering me. Mazdamundi in game: I ride Dino hehe

you can clearly see that the mazdumandi is using manscape, so soft

Old ones: There. We have unlocked your potential. Nakai: I don't feel that different. Old ones: It wasn't that much. Nakai: Huh. Well this is my full potential? Old ones: Yes. Nakai: So, then it's- Old ones: -all downhill from here. Nakai: Like Morghur. Old ones: We do not know what this Morghur is, but it sounds disappointing.

I honestly feel like Oxyotl's teleport mechanic would have been amazing for Nakai. He could be like in the lore where he just shows up anywhere, randomly, when needed, and wrecks everything before disappearing.

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It's kinda impressive how much attention the Lizardmen have gotten through updates and DLC's yet they never seem to get any content updates that are actually good

Poor Mazda, one of the most powerful casters in Lore but in the bottom half of Lizardmen legendary lords.

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6 out of 7 lords don’t boost the faction at all. Is CA allergic to touching their campaign map or so something?

I personally like lords that boost low-tier units more than lords that boos high-tier units. Because when it comes to tier 4 or 5 units, the fate of the campaign is already decided and it doesn't matter that much. Especially in case of lizardmen when you just can recruit level 40 life slann which will be better than all this lords anyway

I do feel like he glossed over the fact that Oxyotl also provides 15% research rate and allows recruitment of skink-oracles in all provinces without needing to construct anything, which maybe should have gotten him an additional point in Faction Power

Kroq-Gar was my first ever warhammer campaign. Glad to see him at #1

Daily reminder that Tiktaqto defeated a greater Demon by releasing an average sized rock on its face from a relatively medium altitude.

You know things are REALLY bad for the lizardmen when Nakai, one of their most iconic characters, is only marginally better than Tretch Craventail.

As a lizardmen fan it just makes my heart bleed that we got the shitty part of the DLC every. single. time. So much lost opportunity ;(

Factions comparison would be great

CA:You get 7 legendary lords Lizardmen: :D what's the cost CA: you have the most barebones campaign, expensive units and buildings Lizardmen: :,D at least we get seven lords

As someone who has owned this game since release and yet to finish a campaign....thankyou

Feel like the Lizard's are in general let down by the "all units are good on their own, no synergies" style of gameplay they have, which you can really see in the LLs completely ignoring faction bonuses and having weak army ones.

I really don't see how a lord that can get 600-700 kills in almost every battle without ever even being seen is somehow only a 6/10 as a combatant. Oxyotl is leagues above Alith Anar or Markus Wolfhart. It's also fascinating how TikTaqTo's +10 MA in foreign territory is very good while Oxyotl's +8 MA in foreign territory somehow doesn't even get mentioned. Oxyotl's Masterful Ambush stance and immunity to trespassing should be counted as well. And maybe the global recruitment unlock for Oracles as well, because while it does not increase capacity for them, it does let you recruit them on the frontlines exactly where you need one as instant reinforcements. Also, how does Nakai giving Frenzy to Kroxigors counting as nothing? That's +10 MA, +10% WS, and +10% charge bonus and it doesn't even get mentioned? It's not like Nakai is great, but surely he at least deserves another point or two in his commanding.

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Happy to see you getting sponsorships, Legend!

13 freaking seconds ago, hell yea, thank you Manscaped, and thank you Legend!

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YAAY! He told us that he probably wouldn't do this, but apparently, he's changed his mind! Glad! Also, he once said that all Lizardmen lords suck so they would all score low compared to HE and DE(specifically Morathi and Malekith), let's see if he was right or not!

Thanks for makin' this Legend, Lizards are my favorite race and I was always wondering how they stacked up in your eyes, unfortunate to see they're not all that great on later difficulties, but still appreciate this all the same.

Totally disagree with Oxyotl and that's why: 1. He has penetration and easily kills 3-7 models at once, especially in sieges. 2. Because of his Unspotable trait he can solo almost any siege without endangering his troops and this is great if we're talking about singleplayer (and I guess we do). 3. He has a skill that allows to recruit Oracles from any settlement and increases their cap. Is this good for campaign? Def yes! 4. Best army is the most cost-efficient one. Oxyotl skyrockets skink's cost eff, his chameleon stack is worth 2,3,4x more expensive enemy armies! And you use all the saved bucks to build up. 5. Oxyotl and his skinks are considered to be a low threat for AI in autoresolve and thus AI hugely underestimates your forces. You can use it to your advantage by showing Oxy's stack in front of enemy ones and allowing them to attack instead of maybe playing a long siege battle.

Pair Oxy with that starting Caster he gets and they'll kill pretty much most lords within the first 20 or so seconds of the match, Its insane how much damage they put out.

I was just looking for this comparison a couple of days ago! Thanks, Legend!

This is one of your best type of videos. Wouldn’t mind a video like this for every race.

I think Oxyotl's command power should be a bit higher, maybe 8/10 or even 9/10. I remember Malekith getting 8/10 just for Darkshards and Black Guard upkeep reduction. IMO Oxyotl's buffs to Skinks makes early and mid game super easy at really low cost. And early game is usually the most challenging and hence important.

Once again I'd like to remind you that Legend rates these lords as if you confederated them. Considering the toughest part of nearly any campaign is the early game and that some faction bonuses are not tied to LL you shouldn't pick your faction based on this, rather choose who to confederate quicker (or at all).

Honestly, I didn’t not expect some of these listings, but great video nonetheless, been waiting a long time for this one, now I would like to see dwarves and an updated Dark Elves video, and maybe a video comparing your 10/10 lords: Malagor the Dark Omen and Alariell the Radiant

Been waiting for this for 4 years since Total Warhammer 2 came out. Thanks Mr Legend.

I have to disagree with Oxyotl's battle power. Using the slow death banner it's pretty normal for him to get around 400-600 kills in a battle while sniping multiple lords/heroes. He does take some time to do it but if yo can keep him out of the way and firing at good targets he can dish out a ton of damage.

It would actually be kinda cool to have a "Top 5 Faction Bonuses" video now that all the factions are in the game

Thanks for the great video as always!

I disagree with the oxyotl rating a little bit. With one of his toggle abilities he gets snipe and increased range and if you combine it with the "green" poison banner his damage output is increased by a lot. The fact that he shoots more darts is super advantageous since you cant hit several units and applying the dot to all of them. And the dot does apply to the blowpipe ability so you wont need unlimited patience.

this might seem very random but i love the *pop!* sound at the end of every rating.

Seriously there are so many things in the Lizardmen roster that make no sense at all. Why is the dread saurian getting stuck in every unit that is bigger than a regular infantry unit? Why is the most powerful caster alive in the setting left with such a mediocre selection of spells? Why do we have casters of nearly all lores of magic as heroes/leaders in HE and Empire, but then the ones that created those lores of magic are left with only a few of them? Like, there are so many amazing units in the roster that are completely irrelevant because it looks like CA is scared of making the faction too strong. But at the same time this only happens with Lizardmen. I really want to know the reason for these design choices.

Thank's for the great video, I totally agree with the ranking! I would love to see one for the dwarfs!

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Nakai being low is saddening.

I like these power comparisons, but would love to see Faction comparisons also - for example comparing the Skaven factions based on unique mechanics, challenge and faction traits :)

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definitely liking the idea of rating different factions' unique mechanics! (maybe not one faction at a time?)

I think you were a bit unfair to Oxyotl. If nothing else, he can get unspotable and snipe, and have those on constantly, unlike say, Alith Anar who only gets those whilst a doppleganger is out.

Okay, again about Nakaï ; you really can’t rate him like any other legendary lords because he is completely symbiotic to his campaign mechanics. he is NOT supposed to recruit from the normal buildings, but function ENTIRELY on sacred spawnings through the rituals. If you TRY to play him the way any other LL plays, it’s NORMAL you’ll find him crappy. His INTENDED play style is centered around getting sacred spawnings (that have way higher stats and even better progression than normal ones) and therefore end up with an army that has every stack 33 to 66% better than a normal one of the same rank. Playing him as any other LL is tantamount to choosing Imrik and recruiting only ogres for him. AND THAT’S WHY he doesn’t do squat else, because what he does different is his whole campaign mechanics. You have to keep rolling forward to snowball and not worry too much about defending the settlements you captured behind you, because he’s not a camper at all, kind of like Taurox, really. It’s just less obvious he is intended to always keep moving. I admire how you dig into every mechanics to go and find what’s broken about them, but for Nakaï it’s hilarious you actually completely flew over it and kept using your usual frame of thinking. As for Oxyotl, all of what you said is pretty true except if he shoots in a pack of Ogres or Minotaurs (or kroxy etc), then he’ll drop them pretty fast. He’s tailored to be very dangerous to these first and foremost. His other shtick is of course the fire whilst moving and being horribly slippery, but that has more value in the game mode that you notoriously never play ;) And, yeah, he’s pretty much tailored to build a chameleon skinks doomstack, especially with the special poisons he’ll give to other ChamSkinks in his army.

I have been looking forward to this

You need to do this for all races. Good job.

Thanks for the comparison

I had an idea for a video, compare all the top legendary lords for all of your videos

Thank you sk much for making this! I love these power comparison videos and I hope you'll make more.

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Great video. Did you consider the unique or discounted rites that some legendary lords get as faction-wide bonuses?

After JUST trying out the vampire counts, I'm in love. Free skellys and zombos? Yes please! Can you do a legendary lord comparison with the Vampire Counts next? Thanks

I'd like to see a comparison summary at the end with all the Lords. :)

I know these kind of videos are a lot of work and I really appreciate them!

Kinda surprised Legend made no comment on how Gor Rok starts his campaign with Kroak already unlocked. I feel like that alone puts him in the top 3.

Hopefully Faction comparisons will be a thing later down the track. For most i really wanna know wich would be best to collect all other legendery lords with if it is possible for the race.

Happy to see Tiktaq'to getting such a buff lately. He's always been my favorite LM campaign just for how unique he is.

Please do cover remaining factions as well. You may group some factions (such as Norsca and Warriors of Chaos, or Vampire Coast and Vampire Counts etc.) and compare these groups separately. Great video nevertheless.

I just finished an Oxyotl campaign and think he is quite a lot more deadly than Legend gives him credit for. Oxy usually got 150 kills per battle, just pop him out on a flank, activate Stalk mode and let him do his work. From the side his projectiles almost always hit perfectly, dealing full damage with every volley. The other thing I found very useful is his skill "The Hidden Nusiance", which gives Chameleon Stalkers "Unspottable" and Chameleon Skins "Snipe", which basically means you can force every engagement to go your way, as well as ensuring you sucessfully ambush most enemy armies. Maybe it's just that my style of fighting is quite different from Legend's but I would rate his battle power at 8/10 (Oxy can end up mosty running around and repositioning himself) and his command power because of "The Hidden Nuisance" at 10/10.

Thanks man

I would love to see a comparison between the Dawi lords specially now with Thorek

You can get hundreds of kills with Oxyotl every battle if you give him his Slow Death poison banner, essentially turns his dart into a poison wind bomb. But you do still have to spend some time getting that value.

Would really love faction comparisons, I sometimes wonder what I’m missing or if one has a better mechanic or buff than the other, like with HE or green skins

Aaaahh finally the Lizardmen video! I see you are a "coldblood" of culture as well ;)

One more thing that I think was overlooked on Oxyotl is that he should give himself his Slow Death poison (and avoid at all costs killing Herman Ghorst). Using that and spacing his shots out he can get way more mileage at chipping away an army before you have to send anyone else in. Just hide in a corner and have him keep touching different units instead of shooting the same target. His blowpipe special also will apply this poison.

Lizardmen Lord power comparison 1) Life slaan 2) Not life slaan

Please, do these comparisons with nonlegendary lords as well

Oxyotl’s battle rating is too low. I read what the slow death modifier from his skill tree does and thought: “uh, this would probably work really well with him” It does, I’ve gotten him to over 70,000 damage just shooting alone, and the slow death applies to his missile attack ability from his weapon and melee as well, making him a silent killer that can slaughter armies from stealth and makes sieges a cinch. He is also perfect for a chameleon skink army because of this since he can go after fast units and weaken or kill them before you engage the enemy, earning him teamwork points.

I hoped for Tehenuian to be #1 but as with Taurox #2. Still great! Loved the video, as I hate Lizzards myself, but wanted to try them. Now I have some knowledge!

I feel like the update was an indirect buff to Mazdamundi in campaign because the Skink Oracle means that not having a Life Slann leading your army is no longer such a big deal. Also very unusual for a true melee lord to get 10/10 battle power.

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Faction comparison videos... GOOD IDEA!

Hey, that ad segment was actually pretty dang good! A pity about the Lords, really. Perhaps the Geomantic Web should provide global bonuses rather than commandment stuff. Would help them get an "upswing" moment after a few good provinces are built up.

I finally got to play Oxyotl and I must strongly disagree with 6/10 as combatant (especially considering that Grimgor got 9/10and Alith Anar 8/10). IMO he should get at least 9.5/10, he's definitely better combatant than both of these LL 1. Oxyotl does have penetration, I saw him wrecking 12 kills in one volley 2. Oxyotl excels in killing high value targets because of unspottable when his entire army stalks. He can run around an enemy army 50 meters away and shoot without being spotted and he can be buffed with ammo and have 100+ shots. Just yesterday fought against Hellebronn: Oxyotl had 105 shots, he killed Hellebronn, 2 Masters, Death Hag, 2 artillery crews and shot the rest into infantry while the rest of his army was chilling. Ended the battle with 200 kills and insane damage value. While confederated he still can get 80-90 shots

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If you put the green nurgle toxin "banner" on Oxyotl, he can get over 60k damage in a battle if you cycle through the enemy's single entities to keep applying the DoT to each of them for the full duration. I used him to soften up a random mission army with four shaggoths and two giants, along with chosen, dragon ogres and chaos knights enough that they got army losses less than a minute after my chameleons engaged. I think that combo which is entirely within his own skill tree warrants at least a 7 or 8/10 for battle power. I agree on the other two aspects being so low though, poor skinky boi.

Hey Legend, cool video. I mostly agree with you assessment. But I am not sure, if TikTaq'to should have been a 10/10 for command ability if he only really supports one specific doomstack, that even needs a lot of input to get going.

Legend: "Provides nothing, 3/10." Me: "What is a 0/10 for faction power, then?"

Nice Video.

Omg that close up of Mazdamundi at 09:05 ..... Jabba the toad indeed.

Oxyotl should get a better combat rating, entirely because he can climb walls and start sniping while being unspottable, and win siege battles by himself.

The Manscaped sponsorship is basically the LL comparison campaign intro at this point

I feel like the 4 toxins that Oxyotl provides to his army are impactful enough to give him an extra point in command power. theyre pretty damn powerful and allow his army to handle a much higher range of enemy units.

Oxyotl also has very good replenishment and can replenish troops in hostile or neutral territory with out needing to enter the stance to do so, we can also replenish troops when encircling or seiging witch is very important in some situations, his movements paird with tech buffs and skink oracles is also insanely far he can cross the length of the chaos south chaos wastes in like 3 turns, he can go in kill an army close to their allies then move back out of range, he can accomplish as much as three armies so much in his turn. And going back to his replenishment he can fully replenish in a single turn in friendl6 territory or well encamped, i know you dont count it but paired with his faction ability to teleport he to godly on the campaign map he can use part of his movement to kill a strong army then teleport to another area kill another then encamp or be in frindly territory fully recover teleport somewhere else and do it again, i would say he is the most effective lord on the campaign scale for getting shit done, not a turn will go by when he is not able to do something, his army ability that let him trespass with out penalties also makes him even more productive in combinations with his mobility like if Itza wont sell out to you and you want good relations you can just go threw them and to take north lustria one again with his abilities you can place sanctuma anywhere and in 3 turns build both a fully upgraded milatary buff building and teleport building so you can place sanctum under your enemies you want to take well Oxyotl is on the other side of the world the teleport him take their settlement the next turn and everything around it over the next 3 turns and you build a new teleport building somewhere else, you can also buold them on active front lines teleport back to defend instantly from anywhere, he is effectively able to operate a a large empire of unconnected or distant territories well at war with all basically everyone at once with a handful of lords, or even just him as can usually see enemies far before there in range to do anything can teleport in with the movment to kill multiple armies or even kill their army moving to attack you then take their un-defended settlement, they then need turned to rebuild their army as your army is fully recov3d by next turn and teleport over to another front do it again, that said I confederate tehenawin atbthe start and have him slowly capture lustria well defending, well Oxyotl secures all the wastes, and does all his vision quests with long term or annoying failure conditions, i ussuly ignore like +5 corruption or - 5 control or growth and they do basically nothing, unless i want to teleport to those locations, between after all the waste are mine i will Oxyotl go to lustria and claim everything not owened by a Lizerdmen man very fast then I teleport over to start taking oven the skaven empire in the old world and work my way down to the otjer Lizerdmen, send tehenawin on a sea rout to cathey where nakai is long dead, i know cuz Oxyotl checked way earlier, and start expanding in the east as well. Anyways on a campaign level he is op as hell well in battle i find he takes massive chunks of health out of things each volley and rarely has to worry about taking damage, meanwhile a mix of super buffed chameleon skink skirmishs paired with some beasts wipe out anything so far as basically all your army but beasts have camo and vanguard deployment, they can utterly shred more things when focing on them and outskermish things, with all the effects and everything vs demons you can break their most annoying units so quickly and kill them before moving on to the next, hounds and things ussuly break before they can do anything as will more flying units, cav and large monsters, chariots ussuly die very fast too but the biggest issues tend break too, its also very easy to take out theirs back line arty and such, in situations where their rear is well defended from skinks the beasts are ussuly able to charge though and kill and distract their ranged unist well the skinks slaughter the fround line helpless to catch up to them, once their out of the way kill the ranged units, once their bead or gone the battle is effectively won, losses dont actually matter so long as nonfull unit is lost as by next turn they will be full, and outside of auto resolve its rare to lose anything other then skink chieftains who have not yet unlocked a mount or stalk, i say as my only maunal resolve loss so far, who died in a battle to fatweiver, where i set up to ambush him and somehow he ambushed us, but in general Oxyotl gets to choose all his engagements and almost always has an advantage in thay matter, his long movement is also perfect for sniping armies that forced marched expecting to be safe

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So game plan for lizardmen, Cult of Sotek faction, confed Hexoatl and park Tehenhauin there, and then confed Kroq-gar and Tiktaq'to to go hunt down your enemies.

THanks I was waiting for this since the Taurox stream!

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Man y'all are quick..

You know what I would love to see? A mod or patch that, when you confederate another faction, all their lords skill selections get reset to 0 points spent and you can train them as you like.

Do Tomb Kings next!