The attempt at humor usually falls flat, beyond the obvious punchline, and detracts from the ongoing narrative. Unfortunate, because the information contained within the presentation is detailed and worthy of a view.
This is one of the best videos on the case I've seen to date. Such a pleasure to listen to someone who actually knows the facts, presents them, and doesn't include any of the often-repeated myths. Thank you, Greg Williams! Only one correction, it turns out Morse's remembering the badge number of the conductor and the number of the street car isn't true. There's no testimony or witness statement claiming that. It didn't appear anywhere until a book was published in the 1930s, and has been repeated ever since, with nothing to substantiate it. What corroborated his alibi was stating there were seven priests on that street car with him, and a conductor heading the opposite way remembered them. The niece and her grandmother also corroborated his story that he came to visit, and the times he arrived and left.
This has some interesting points in it. Delivery is not the best for this subject matter - affected one moment and overly jokey the next imo. The only time he stayed serious was when talking about the law, which he reveres. He also has a penchant for names. Like many other videos, one can sift thru for relevant data new to them.
He's a little off with his facts on small points, but he's good. Also, he seems to say it's not a big deal if Lizzie was upstairs when Bridget opened the front door for Mr. Borden, rather than being downstairs ironing handkerchiefs as Lizzie claimed at one point. It is a very big deal though. If she had been upstairs (upstairs in the front of the house was merely two rooms, no hallway: the guest room where Mrs. Borden was axed to death and Lizzie's bedroom immediately adjacent to the guest room). Emma's bedroom was a small alcove inside Lizzies room and, therefore, negligible as rooms go. If Lizzie had been upstairs prior to her father coming home, then that places her in a room where she would have certainly been able to hear her stepmother being axed, or at least on the staircase where Lizzie would have been able to see Abby's dead body. On a separate note, Bridget testified that she had just laid down in her own room for a few minutes and did not fall asleep. The guy on this video says that Bridget was taking a nap ( i.e., not conscious to hear anything much). Therefore, his statements are contrary to Bridget's own testimony.
This is my first time hearing that someone actually saw Mr. Borden that day. The reason this is important to me is because maybe, just MAYBE the murders took place either the night before of earlier in the morning on the reported day. That is the only thing that makes sense because the killer(s) needed time to clean him/her/themselves.
Mrs. Borden was killed about 9:30 am. Mr. Borden got back home at 10:40 according to Bridget's original statement. She later pushed the time back of his arrival to about 10:55, but witnesses on the street said that it was not as late as 10:55. Why would Bridget change the timing? Not sure. In any event, when Abby was killed, Bridget was outdoors washing windows with the side screen door locked . Mr. Borden tried both the side door but couldn't get in and then he went around to the front door for Bridget to let him in. That door was also locked, but Bridget was close enough to the front door to hear him. Bottom line: abby and lizzie were the only two people in the house when Abby was killed and both the side door and the front door were locked. Bridget said that she never saw lizzie on the first floor inside the house while Bridget was washing the windows outdoors looking into the house. Then, when Bridget was washing the windows inside the house, when Andrew knocked at the front door, Bridget said that lizzie was upstairs (ie., with Abby's dead body). One more interesting nugget that never seems to be mentioned by these experts or in documentaries: lizzie tells Mrs. Churchill (the first person arriving at the house after the murders) immediately that she thinks that Abby must also have been killed since she (lizzie) had heard her come home. Then, moments later, she tells others she's not sure where Abby is, so she asks Bridget to look for her (as though lizzie now believes Abby is still alive). These conflicting statements were made in the house, prior to the inquest and prior to lizzie being on morphine. Nevertheless, there's no mention at trial of these conflicting statements. It doesn't seem like they could be excluded given the time and place they were given. She had not been a suspect at a formal inquest and denied counsel at that point nor was she on drugs yet. At the very least, Mrs. Churchill could have been asked about it at trial but wasn't. It's interesting to me that so many witnesses at trial testify as to what lizzie said to them at one point or another as though hearsay was permitted. Lizzie changed her mind/statements moments after the murder in order to place herself downstairs when she was actually upstairs with Abby's body and also changed her statement regarding whether she thought Abby was already killed since her father had been murdered.
@@lb8471 Several witnesses saw Andrew Borden that morning as he made his usual rounds to his businesses, in addition to the maid, and his former brother in law, John Morse. On top of that, his wounds were still bleeding by the time the doctor and police arrived. He'd been very recently killed.
@@fernandoanthony63 That is interesting that Lizzie told Mrs Churchill she thought Abby must also have been murdered, but then says she isn't sure where she was, although that may not be something that points to her guilt and is conflicting, even though I believe she killed them. She wouldn't necessarily have known Abby was also killed, only that (she claims) she thought she heard Abby return. But then if Abby had gone out to see a sick friend, as Lizzie says she believed, and had returned, Abby would have been very unlikely to go upstairs to the sisters' part of the house because she'd have no reason to.
I agree he's good, but don't forget there were more than two rooms upstairs. There was the hall landing, the clothes closet, Lizzie's room, and Emma's room. Emma's room was small, but look at the floor plan of the upstairs, which was basically a mirror of downstairs, with the exception of the changes Andrew made to the house to convert it into a single family home. Abby had been murdered an hour or more before Andrew returned home. Lizzie wouldn't necessarily have had to see Abby's body if she were on the staircase. Abby's body was on the opposite side of the room, behind the bed on the floor. Bridget and Mrs Churchill were looking for her, so they saw her. But if you weren't looking, you wouldn't necessarily see her body under the bed and across the room. I still think Lizzie did it, and yes Bridget said she had just laid down, not necessarily fell asleep. My only real question is if Lizzie had assistance, particularly with Andrew, since the timeline is so tight. But if she did, who? Bridget may have fudged the timeline to help Lizzie, although I don't think she was directly involved. She definitely didn't tell the strict truth, because she was very aware of the tensions in the Borden household, and downplayed them to help Lizzie.
Loved this! Adding humour (which i know some may not like) made it more entertaining to listen to and helped keep my focus which is not easy. I find this case fascinating, being from the UK i only heard of it a couple years ago during lock down and try to watch all the documentaries, films, RU-vid videos and even listened to an audio book about it. What i think keeps my attention is people have such strong and different opinions on what happened and who did it or may have done it.
FYI… Abbey Borden called Bridget by the name of Maggie because the previous Irish maid’s name was Maggie. Abbey didn’t bother to learn the new maids name.
Who among us would remain in the house after finding one or both parents murdered?. Lizzie being the murderer she knew there was no intruder. And after it was all over grief stricken Lizzie decided to go mansion shopping as a coping mechanism?.
Lizzie employed the services of the same financial advisor as had Andrew Borden. You could say she "inherited" him. The man's last name was Cooke. He passed away in 1934. It so happens, he handled absolutely all of Lizzie's business affairs, including the Borden tenament houses and other rental properties. Apparently, in one tenament, an elderly couple resided on the third floor and were living in squalor. No heat and the roof was so pitched that the man couldn't even stand upright. He died as a result of the conditions and a lawsuit was brought forth, but nothing ever came of it. I believe a very inconsequential settlement was paid to make the case "go away". Lizzie had her hand in many pots after Andrew's murder. She lived quite well for all of her days and was quite comfortable.
i think Lizzie knew who killed her parents... She didn't killed them but I think she was involved it's bcoz of the money and her step mother was in the way and getting all of it that was supposed to be for the 2 of them Lizzie and emma the situation changed when Mr. Borden purchased the house for abby's half sister
