LLF S01E02 

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Megan thank you for uploading this, Megan. I couldn’t find this episode anywhere. 💗

Megan thank you for the translation...I sure appreciate knowing what the future holds for them...👍🏻

Megan wonderful of you to provide the translation!

Thank you! ❤

Roberto Lopez Adrian Me too!

Same here, I think I cried the most over these two though.

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Not exactly. You missed something telling: after a short pause, Wayne adds confidentially to Davina, "No," and _giggles_ nervously. She then tells him where his father is waiting. Wayne really opened up to Davina, which others have already noted.

It's a public show so everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Aaww! That is genuinely adorable. 💕

Just shows that he was raised right

Oh yes! I caught my breath and started to tear up.The emotions! Beautiful.

In all fairness, I don't know of many men who would be okay with raising another man's child. That's a tough one. But, yes, very painful for her. 💔

@@cirsiumc Pay attention, she was married to that man. She cheated with the black man.... then when he blew her off baby and all she tried to work it out with her husband. It isn't too much for a husband to ask that his wife not get knocked up by other men while they are married.

@@kosmos1957 I agree

@@kosmos1957 Yes that is true but we do not know the circumstances. We were not there and cannot really judge. People make mistakes ...... everyone! Especially when one is young, naive, inexperienced. Girls of her class in all countries were mostly conditioned/indoctrinated that their only choice was to find a husband. They felt pressured into marriage or felt the demands of family and/or society to be married. Women after decades of so called liberation still feel incomplete without a man which is astonishing. At least from my observation and what is depicted in films of many countries.

@@kosmos1957 She and her first husband were separated when her son was conceived. Is that cheating? I'm not being snarky, btw.

I think she was selfish and I think the main reason she wanted to see her son was because she wanted him to tell her that he had forgiven her.

Just want to know, are you SURE you love these stories? . . . just kidding ; )

Excellent point! 👍🏼

I can’t comprehend women having multiple kids with multiple men.

I can't believe that husband thought his marriage would last after shoving "his" choice down the wife's throat and putting her through that anquish. He should have just filed for divorced and walked away...

If you have not walk in those shoes sixties, poor, small town, very conservative, racist England, after having an affair.

Mommy 😍

@@peaceandlove544 but this child is but 26 years old... The 60's are long gone... This child was born maybe 1990..

Honestly, I don’t think the mother wanted the child and only wanted to be reunited with him so that he could forgive her guilt

Easily said when you are not in the situation yourself. Had I been the man I would have kicked her out on the street.

Sadly you seem to have missed the point. But unless you lived in that village at that decade or had great empathy you would not understand. She did what seemed best for the baby and her own survival. People make choices all the time. Without being able to see into the future we can only hope the choice is right but there is never a guarantee. Looking back from a future point with more life experience is no advantage. Unless you have walked in her shoes you cannot judge. What you remember from the age of 5 I doubt is very objective or even fully accurate. In any case the situations are wholly not the same. They made a free choice to adopt. She misguidedly had an affair and he was ambushed by this reality. He tried but he couldn't do it. I think it was honest of him rather than grudgingly raise the child possibly unable to really love the boy. Many children grow up in such homes feeling unwanted and unloved, even by biological parents. That is much worse because they always feel they have done something wrong not knowing it was the emotional/psychological issues of the parent.

Yeeees!

I'm in total agreement! I have thought about these two families and have wondered just that! I sure hope they continue to love each other! 🙏💞

That's what I lived, but I always knew that I was adopted. I found my birth parents in 1985 when I was 21. They had married two years after my birth

Are you feeling any better today?

Lol, 😄for sure! Not to mention that rambunctious personality!👍🏼

But fortunately, Johnathan doesn't resent his mother for being white. He's a well balanced young man due to a good solid upbringing.

@@kosmos1957 He has had a white mother all his life. Now he has two.

All of the reunions I've seen on this show have been sincere and emotional. But people express emotion in different ways.

UK version is more respectful and does a better job at telling each person's story. US version is all about drama and has become an advertisement for the Ancestry DNA test.

Megan yup, definitely agree with that

Yes he is handsome and so humble. His adopted mom did a wonderful job.

Well, we are all after girls who'd date us looking at our heart & personality but not the looks. Sorry

Handsome Yes, but he showed his true colors by leaving the baby's mom even though she was the mother of his child..., no, that's by no means "nice".

Clearly your birth mother was a feckless person who did not take responsibility for her life or the life of her children. I am thankful that children are taken off of incompetent parents like your mother - and always hope it is before too much damage is done. I am sorry for the five children that were left with her and wish they had the same opportunity you did. These reunions don't always have a happy ending - but you can now go on with your life, know your biological history, and be thankful for how your life was blessed with the great parents and family you got. It can work both ways. My friend finally found the daughter she gave up for adoption when she 19 and unmarried. At first - everything was incredible. The daughter even moved in with her. As time went on she realized the daughter was a pathological liar and a thief - later diagnosed as manic depressive. This had nothing to do with the adoptive parents - who were wonderful and successfully raised two other children. However, the lies the daughter told about the adoptive parents were believed at first - until my friend flew out to meet them and really got to know all of the story. I could write an epistle here of some of this child's escapades - but one them involved her intentionally hiding in a storage closet at her elementary school when she was 8 and thought it was great fun that the entire town and the police was out looking for her that entire night. The stories got much worse after that. Another friend, who was adopted, found her birth mother who refused to meet her and wanted no contact. She felt a terrible sense of rejection. However - on a positive note - another friend found her son - and it is has been a wonderful reunion and they are now travel to visit each other and are very close. And still another friend found both of her birth parents and now has an extremely close relationship with her birth mother, who is the spitting image of my friend. My children's father is adopted - and it is quite strange to give birth to children where half of their ancestry and genealogy is unknown and missing. At least you can now give that information to your own children - and while it may not be a pretty picture - you know it. Be thankful for that. I think never knowing is much worse for most people.

Happy you found her and happy you had great adoptive parents

Here,here! Good for you for saying it,because it's true.People shouldn't be so quick to judge.

Yes it is often the case. The fellow was young, inexperienced and intimidated by the two families who sabotaged the lives of the two young people and the baby. Had the families supported them emotionally and helped them to make their way the story would have been different. Such stories are very complicated and have more than one truth. Everyone lied especially to the son who had a completely wrong image and attitude toward his father until the letter and then meeting him. That is the real tragedy, how adults manipulate and poison the mind of an innocent child because of their own arrogance and egos.

If a grown child doesn't bother with parents for four years, that pretty much indicates relationship problems between them. The back story that they were "not a good family" seems to point at dysfunction.

Yes that's who he reminds me of.

Yes you are right but the problem has many sides to it. Mainly most people who have children shouldn't. Many people who are parents are not emotionally or psychologically healthy and incapable of giving a child what it needs. They pass on what they got from their parents. Most human beings should not have children. Just because you can procreate does not mean you should. And that is why there are so many children who end up in terrible and vulnerable circumstances. Abusive parents or adoptive parents are people with serious psychological problems but no one evaluates people before they have children. Even adoption agencies are unable or unwilling to do expert investigation into an adoptive family. Many abusive parents put on a good face and act so it is not easy to know who they really are.

I just told my husband the same thing yesterday after watching this episode.

It was already her husband and father of his first child

@@peaceandlove544 exactly. If it was a boyfriend then hell no.

@Trump Won Especially a black one. man come on thats just so messed up to say

I think it is easier said today than it would have been back in the day. We have to consider how deeply racist some people were and are still today but at least it is better today.

Lisa ...... she did not only spare herself but her baby who would have grown up in a very hostile environment and probably would have suffered massive discrimination and bullying. With Hindsight it is very easy to judge but unless you have lived in a certain society, town or village you have no idea what it was like. Everyone seems to miss the point, she did not choose the husband over the baby as that marriage ended. She made a choice that the baby might have a better life with proper parents. A mixed race child was difficult enough but being illegitimate made every child a target for persecution not only from other children but all society. Not until the mid to late 1970's did that begin to change in Big cities. But make no mistake there are still places, especially in rural or Bible Belt USA where a single woman pregnant will be shunned and would only have a chance if she could move and find work in a big city. .

Ha,ha,ha, I surely agree.

Yes, I noticed that too. I wouldn't be surprised to see a meeting place in an abandoned minefield or on a ferris wheel

Hilary C thank you!!! I felt no sympathy for that woman. she chose a man over her own son who she birthed.

Pistachio Shiba Yeah. Children come first; full stop and if someone asks a parent to make that choice they should be immediately banished forever.

Hilary C completely agree!

evitasd we are all entitled to our opinions and I will stick by mine. You come along and say we have a sense of self righteousness? Absurd. No need for you to be arrogant and condescending just because there are women in the world who would never choose a man over a child and believe it is a wrong decision to allow a man expect that. There are a vast amount of half sibling relationships in the world and they work out just fine. I never judged her negatively, but stated that the concept is completely foreign to me. The bond between a mother and child should be stronger than anything else. She was a weak woman. I don't know how she could look him in the eye and respect him after that. Be happy for her? No, I will not be told to be happy for a woman like that. MY choice.

evitasd you're nothing more than a shit disturber. You know nothing about me or my life. That I put the love for children above all else...yeah...that makes me so mean. Push off and stop trolling.

You have not understood at all. Sorry. It did matter at that time. Society was very different and the pressures and consequences were extreme. Some very rare individuals may have been able to cope but these people could not.

that’s freakin’ terrible - especially in this day and age. so many mixed couples of all creeds and so many adoptions. there’s a woman in Harlem who fostered then adopted two white kids and she’s fierce about her loving them and mentions the prejudice she meets from people where she lives. these are my kids and they need me. (they are sister and brother with disabilities). She is just amazing! i knew a woman from Holland 26 yrs ago who fostered two mixed race sisters. it took her 2 years to finally and truly adopt them. one was 4 and the other 2 when she able to take them to Holland!! how dare people mention racial stuff like that now!!! Jonathan(David) is a wonderful (and handsome) man!! the mum is so happy and proud to finally see him!! and i’m so very glad Shaun and his son, Wayne, have met and bonded so tightly. he deserves to know his son! they look so amazingly alike. and when asked, “are you ready?” they both said “ready as i’ll ever be.” totally incredible!! :) this is a beautiful episode!! thank you so much :) 🌷👶🏻👶🏽

It shouldn't have,but prejudice,aggressive racism,was huge at that time.I've seen the stories of other mixed race children born to women who were threatened with violence,frequently,by the white people around them.Spat at.Bricks thrown through windows.Worse.England is smaller than a good many US states,people live incredibly close to one another because there's no room for a big house,at least not in the homes you see in these shows.If you aren't from the UK or are unfamiliar with society there,it's difficult to understand the race and class system there.

@@unseelie63 I have been there a few times i lived there for 6 months at one time and frequented for other various months through the years. lovely place but I did still hear the N word from time to time unfortunately but it still is a beautiful place minus a few ignorant people.

@Ameenah1, If it were only “a few ignorant people,” your sistren and brethren wouldn’t *still be suffering so very much* - for *no* sensical reasons/excuses. It’s *still incredibly,* ridiculously, hatefully *europoide supremacist racist* out here!

Would you do to a man what this woman did to him? Then to triple the insult she made it even harder by dallying with a black man.

She was young and desperate. Shame n stigma as well

They were split when she got w/ the black man...

@@maryplaidy6814 doesn't matter what she did baby shouldn't pay the price because grown ups can't figure it out. This women had her heart broken and this asshole of a husband shouldn't have any right to ask her to give her baby away.

Go a little deeper and perhaps she didn’t want the baby because he was black and she couldn’t cope

You missed the point. It was less to do with keeping the husband and more to do with her ending up a mother alone with an illegitimate mixed race baby. The UK worse in the USA have a high rate of racism. In small towns and villages both the children would have suffered, especially Jonathan. He was adopted by a mixed race couple which although not very acceptable in society gave him a better chance at life.

Yesssss

@@globalman I agree!

She and her husband had split when she had the affair with Shaun! The baby suffered for the man not willing to raise him. At that time mothers had huge social pressure to put baby up for adoption. They did’t know then all the harm that comes to adopted babies having abandonment issues and seeing they dont look like or fit in to adopted family! Wayne looks so much like his bio father!!

Wayne recognizes he has an explosive temper - which means he is self aware of his own personality issues. I hope meeting his birth father can lay to rest some of his emotional issues that seem to have haunted him.

@Gabe - I was wondering the same thing!

Paul is a crappy husband? Hhhmmm, I'm not sure of many men who would raise the man's child that had an affair with their wife. But maybe you are referring to other reasons?

She doesn't deserve him she give him away to please a man kmdt

That is a crappy comment. It was different back then, very different, especially being the only mixed race child in the hole area.

@@christanolde4126 Whatever I grew up in that time and seen it so I don't want to hear it.

Yes! I've seen it quite a few times. It's a wonderful show as well.

Yes! It's the American version, just about exactly the same as the UK version...and both hosts are just as adorable and kind...I believe TLC is the network...enjoy and bring the tissues!

You missed the point. He was going to leave her and she would have been alone with two little boys, one mixed race. Where they were like many places in Britain like the USA was extreme racism. Even worse for a mixed race child. She gave him to a mixed race couple which gave him the opportunity to know both parts of his racial heritage.

@@globalman Agreed, very selfless. Unlike so many Judgmental Judy's on social media.

Do some bloody research then bitch

Alysha Monet - I was wondering the same. My own children are mixed race. Racism is as much who you choose to surround yourself with, as it is anything else. I did wonder if they have child support (or the equivalent) in their country. Single mothers have much more support than ever before in America. It’s been this way since the 1980’s. As much as I love my husband, I could never walk away from my kids for him. I have to believe he would never ask that of me. I do fully support adoptions and believe she did the best she could. He had a great family, who seem lovely. Adoption and life (in general) is tragic and beautiful all at the same time. Best regards to all..

@@globalman did the woman's husband stay with her to raise their first born together? Is he the same man in the video?

You have not understood at all. Sorry. Society was very different in the past and the pressures and consequences were extreme. Some very rare individuals may have been able to cope with the prejudice and bigotry but these people could not.

@@globalman I know the past verry well! I was a single dad at this time....not so good time..at the age of 18! I had many proplems with "society" but stayed with my son! Maybe in GB it was much harder for young people!

are you seriously surprised?!

Oh dear...

Do better then lol

They are both men that love the outdoors...and maybe the only private park bench in the area? I liked that their meeting was not in a pub. Their meeting place totally fit their personalities.

I just love how Shaun yanks Wayne into his arms and they give each other such a tight hug. Awesome stories in this episode.

"Wayne and Shaun will meet on the hill overlooking Newstead, the mining village where Shaun grew up and Wayne was born."

I thought the same thing! Glad I am not alone in that idea. :)

You should try reading the video description or the "pinned" comment. It's usually pretty helpful.

Here's a rough translation (based on Google translate): Shaun and Wayne meet a few times a month. Shaun has been introduced to Wayne's family. Debbie will soon travel to Arizona in order to meet her son and his family. They look forward to the time ahead.

Megan thank you so much! ☺

I would love to see updates a few years down the road to accurately assess these reunions in real life.

I don't think it is just a UK thing. Any woman who gives up a child will always feel that bond and love and wonder if the child had a happy life. Also any children who know they're adopted, like the soldier in this episode who always felt so different from his family,want to know about their bir th parents and what they are like and why they were given up, and if they were thought about and loved. I Feel it's a human thing and not a cultural thing. At least more times than not. You do us e those who have no I retest in finding the parent or child, but this show is not for that type. I Feel this show could be just as big or bigger in the U.S. just my opinion

Also it seems most of the kids in these series grow up well adjusted and secure with happy lives, most of th em. It's just that there is a missing piece.

Gail, Where on earth have you gotten this very misleading information? Maybe you don't place emphasis on who you are and where you came from, but most adoptees do-that is a universal truth globally concerning we who are adoptees. And you should correct your typo-I believe that you meant 1947-1953... (1047 is 19 years before the start of 1066, when England was ruled by Edward the Confessor. By the end of the year, a Norman - William the Conqueror - was king after defeating Edward’s successor, Harold, at the Battle of Hastings. BTW, William is my direct ancestor..... something I was never supposed to know according to law and courts in the state in which my adoption took place at 5 1/2 years of age.) I was born in 1945, the first of three children of my parents-parents who abandoned me and my little sister in 1948... our brother -middle child-was kept with our parents until ca 1949-50. So I am well aware of the era in which you must have slept thru to miss the young grils, who had flings in the haystacks or back seats of cars, were sent to maternity homes where they delivered their babies and were forced to relinquish custody of thier child-most regretting that for thier life spans. And who has obviously had no contact with social services! In my elementary school we had a janitor who was a pedophile-creepier than any Hollywood film portrayal. He impregnated at least one of the students -an older sister of one of my 7th grade classmates. It is quite obvious that you know nothing about social services -ether then or now-or the horrible trauma of being separated from one's mother and family and sibs. It is also obvious that you have no clue about adoptees who have their identity stolen and their records denied them-including an original birth certificate. You didn't watch your brother being taken away in the car with your parents or watch as some huge goon took your sister out of your arms screaming in terror! You didn't suffer the abuse of DSS and the courts and adopters who abused in ways no child should know or suffer through. Adjusted? Secure? Loving Families? Bosh! Humbug! You also obviously missed courses in biology and the advent of DNA.. or the girls in your class that suddenly disappeared for six months or mere later returning with no explanation... Adoptees spend their childhood and often the rest of their life looking for someone who resembles them.. asking themselves if the woman walking next to them could be their mother... Do you know that only 9 states in the US allow an adoptee access to his/her own birth certificate? Do you know anything about ACE (Adverse Childhood Events) scores and adoptees? Do you know that adoptees are 4 times more at risk for suicidal attempts in the US than the general population? Of course you don't! (It is the adoptee's identity that is kept hidden in the UK as well as in the US and Europe. this so we cannot have access to our own families.. but wen someone is victimized, usually we find a way to fight back! At least the UK has come to the sense that adoptees have the right to know who they are and who their families are... and have specially trained and licensed researchers who act as intermediaries who are paid by the government to retrieve the information. In the US that information is verboten in 42 states-including the usually progressive state of California. I would suggest that you climb out of Lala land and become educated about adoption in the US. In the meantime, I suggest even more strongly that you refrain from discussing that which you have little to no understanding of. By the way ms ignorant one, it is DNA that rules who we are and what we become-DNA which comes from our parents which was passed on from eons of ancestors before them-50% from mum; 50% from papa.

@@erinhand Of course they don't show all the disaster stories. No one would want to watch them. There must be plenty. Also I suspect they begin shows that ultimately are never aired because they don't turn out well. That is why the many episodes we do see are so wonderful. They take a great deal of hard work and emotional investment.