Put my wheel in today, two points to watch for and check. There has been problems with the bolts stripping and hence the reason torque specs have changed. Before tightening the nuts on the timing wheel make sure the allen bolts on the back of the wheel are tight. They are threaded into the timing wheel and if are loose at all you will be putting all the force onto only the threads and nothing on the bolt head running the chance of stripping them. The thickness of the 1 piece of the wheel that is threaded is thin and only has a couple of threads. I heard LLoyd even said just to snug the nuts.You just need to use common sense and tighten in respect to the size of the bolt diameter. These are small. Don't take a 3/8 ratchet and crank it as hard as you can. Second, be aware when installing the wheel that the back of the wheel butts up against the cam chain gear and not the shaft itself. If you look in the bolt hole there will be about a 3/16 gap to the face of the shaft when it is seated. I had the wheel on and off a few times because I was expecting it to seat against the shaft until I finally looked behind the wheel only to see it was fully in position against the chain gear.
OK did the timing wheel, Just a few things if i might. First the old timing wheel did not want to come off so i used two flat crowbars covered in cloth. bingo OK now number two the new lloyds timing wheel did not want to go on very tight fit,so i started the bolt and used the bolt to force the wheel on. now the results ...amazing i had to hang on to the bars i actually slid back in the seat !!! a word of advice start at 6 dont go any higher but i hear so many people say they leave at 4 with no results,im telling you start at 6 you can always go lower.Thanks lloyds for a amazing product. Also buy the reusable gasket!!!!!!!! i would have been down because the old one came apart in pieces
Will this work with the "anger management system controller" and the hacker exhaust system, from hacker, thank you for your video and response! GREAT VIDEO by the way!! 2013- 106' motor.
Hi Rylan i had the timing wheel installed @4 when i was running the PCV took it out after i purchased and installed the PVCX my question is can i use the timing wheel to fool the ecu to change the injector timing in conjuction with the PVCX? thx's
How does changing the fuel type and grade used effect the setting seems like if you get close to running through edge of pre detonation the octane will also effect the settings. True??! Also with and without ethanol.
This is somehow the version for Victory of that knob to mechanically and manually change the rpm idle on a Harley. Everyone rushing to get one of those, and left me wondering, why is that bloody little wheel so desired?; not worth it, same as that knob for Harley, why don't you just get a bloody tuner and adjust everything properly?
So!.....after keeping on reading about this subject I encountered with a little "thing" that indeed is kind of the equivalent of that rpm knob for Harley Davidson, and that bloody little "thing" is the famous "idle air valve"; then again, why not use a tuner to set the timing and the air fuel ratio properly?
Unrelated question, loyyds fuel controller vs PCV. I've did my own modifications to exhaust/muffler and now doing loyyds air filter. What your thought?
Actually, the bike is has no aftermarket controller. The factory EFI controller has been flashed with the installation of a factory stage one kit (dealer-installed Ness Shooters Slip-ons and Victory Performance air filter). What do you think - leave the sensors alone or pull them and plug the holes? I appreciate the help!
I love my 2000 v92c but want more power and a 6 speed for better mpg cruising. How new an engine can your shop install without any real major modification of the frame and price wise would it be really worth it.
We can put in a 100/6 from 2005-2007 without a huge hassle. It will be more than the 92/5 swap that we do so often. Only you will be able to say whether it was worth the price or not - expect to be in the $5000 range with the motor/parts/labor to make that work.
I am about to order this part for my bike. One remaining question... Should any of these parts be lubricated before install? No mention of it in the video, and the parts look clean, but I'd think they should be lubed in some way? Thanks!
This is a great video. I'm installing my timing wheel tomorrow. I have three simple questions, if you don't mind. (1) I set the advance to 4. Do I leave the timing on the Power Commander to 0 across the board? (2) What is the torque for the two bolts on the wheel? (3) What is the torque for the bolts when I put the floorboard back on? (I can't find it in the service manual) Thank you so much! Pam
In the instruction sheet with the timing wheel there are detailed instructions on how to set up the PCV. The torques listed are 6-8ft/lbs for the black bolts; 17 ft/lbs for the center. BUT ALWAYS USE COMMON SENSE FOR A FINAL TORQUE! Not all torque wrenches are created equal. Floorboard torque is common sense. Not too tight that you break the bolts off, not too loose that the floorboard falls off. If you're having trouble with these steps I would highly recommend you seek an experienced mechanic to do the install. I field about 1-2 calls a month from do-it-yourselfers that have broken their bike by installing it wrong.
vicbuilder Thanks for the response. The guys of VOG said you are the go to guys to ask questions. I'm pretty competent, I just ask questions to make sure I know 100% what I'm doing before I start a project.
I have a 2013 hammer.. get rid of the k&n filter and use a flow filter.. ie as the low mean pressure not low oil, and with the k&n the victorys do not like or need cleaning all the time and the cost of oil these days not good - anyway i changed and saw big result in gear shift.. ( penrite 15-50 SHEAR) Also change the clutch plates if you have high klms / miles and adjust clutch cable play.. Add the barnetts clutch heavy duty - never worry again for any stage
Hi Rylan. I have a 2014 CCT. I was advised by my installer on NOT getting the timing wheel with my other mods (PCV, cams) as it is not necessary with the PCV. WAs this correct advice? Or should I also invest in a timing wheel too?
The timing wheel is a fixed adjustment throughout the whole rpm range. The PC5 can only adjust timing from 2500 and up. So they work well in conjunction. The wheel doing 0 to 2500, the combination working together from 2500 to redline.
vicbuilder Thanks so much Rylan for the reply! So if I install myself the timing wheel, say at 4 as you suggest, will that throw out the current tune and I will need to get the PCV readjusted? And re-dynoed?
vicbuilder OK that's what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure. I have the timing wheel on order and am planning on putting blue loctite on that bolt.
Read the comments above, a guy name Bryan with a picture asked ths same thing and a guy commented back to him with what he Lloyds told him when he called
