LMM Miami 2023 - MkLeo (Marth, Lucina) Vs. Kurama (Mario) Smash Ultimate - SSBU 

Min min too

kameme is the no1 Leo's nightmare

Brings back prodigy ptsd

Isn't Kurama just prodigy name change?

It does not even make sense at this point. He has beaten Kurama plenty and beat Superdog. So you would think he knows what to do but he keeps ending up in this situation. It is always a 3-0 when he loses too. What is that about

Just in case anyone who is new and doesn't know prodigy = kurama

@@nicholas930 but is mkleo still mkleo

Only real Men plays Mario! Those other trash characters with sword like Lucina Roy etc are gay!

@@Shadragno😢

boo, get off the stage @@rafaelrobles5494

Leo is not scared of anyone or any character. He just finds certain characters (like mario, min min) annoying.

​@@thelordoftheweebs9501He can find them annoying and he can be afraid to fight them due to these two characters giving him trouble, especially Mario.

​@@thelordoftheweebs9501 Shuton 🤑

@@thelordoftheweebs9501 lol glazing so hard

kursma was very paitent with parries but leo never adapted such a shame

@@mariodiaz3905 yeah Kurama was abusing shield over and over and Leo was barely using neutral b or grab to take advantage of that. Leo only zeroed in on Kurama's overuse of spot dodges towards the end and was making greedy decisions and/or attacking Mario's shield with aerials which as Marth or Lucina is generally a poor option

@@angelperezmonarrez9892Kurama had no choice but to party such abusive attacks Lucina and Marth throw out so fast. It was more skill than abusing… And he was parrying 🫤

Marth is more susceptible to parrying because his tipper range makes him predictable. @@angelperezmonarrez9892

It’s like Kurama always manages to pick the best option in almost every situation

good catch, he dropped off the stage on purpose, crazy smart kid

Going to disavtange on purpose to gain an advantage on your oppenent... wow Karama is a crazy smart player

He wanted to whiff punish Marth, but there was not enough stage to do so, so he puts himself in the corner use corner options to find the punish

Idk why he forced himself to go to PS2 3 times in a row. Obviously battlefield and small battlefield would get bans but if he lost then he could’ve taken him to maybe Town and City or something lol

Honestly shocked . Granted, who would’ve thought he’d normal get up into D•Tilt . Must’ve been the last thing Leo thought would happen

He was like “Hey I got those too thank you for reminding me”

ty bro, bless

Because this mu is even lol. Swords do not beat Mario.

bro coming with the NBA stats love to see it

Kurama was just guessing, all marios live rent free in shield. Leo only went for a single shield break

good work 🫡

He won't. Leo is done for and he doesn't take the game as serious as he did before. He doesn't spam the joker or Byleth. Instead he goes a discount version of Aegis, a troll marth who we overrate. How can he win, he cant. He should drop the Marth and train corrin who has had excellent results lately.

​@@Yokai_Yuriand because you know all that for a fact you are ranked at what spot?

​@@darkdraconisYou don't need to be a pro to have knowledge. That's such a tired, boomer mindset.

@@silvos8903 "you don't need to be a pro to have knowledge" If you claim to know BETTER than a pro then yes you need to be a pro... Get your head out of that "everyone that has an oposing opinion is a boomer" mindest. Really boomerl-like from you

@@darkdraconis the existence of analysts, coaches, scouts, ect, in esports means it's not an opinion but a fact. I know it's hard to admit being wrong, but you'll get there someday kiddo.

Yeah man i see what you mean when i saw 2:05 no offense, but i can't really imagine Leo being able to totally flip pressure off of a parry like that. and kurama did it twice basically consecutively !!

Marth won't shine, period, but most meta-relevant characters aren't combo fiends.

​@@nathanlevesque7812Marth can do well. At this point no one can say anything for certain considering how random supposedly bad characters are doing better than ever

Yeah though will say Leo lately has been dropping the ball when it comes to neutral. Even in this set, Kurama would pretty much always either Short hop or Dash shield at Leo, anytime he did a dash dance and Leo pretty much never committed to an option that counters those two options. I just don't think his heart is in it anymore and the huge decline starting at Ludwig's invitational shows it. Man proved he's the best, and probably is just gonna coast going forward (fingers crossed for genesis 10)

Right? He can set up edgeguards so much better on small battlefield or hollow bastion

Ego

What’s annoying is looking at the sets leo beat kurama he always counterpicks stages the only time he beat kurama going all ps2 was when he went aegis against him at MainStage

Nothing, it’s player dif, not matchups

​@rojastgh3 but if he goes with Corrin instead of Marth in this current line-up he won't have to whip out the Aegis for the annoying Sonic matchups etc. Basically trying to minimize the characters he has to play so that he can focus more time on each of them. Maybe my comment wasn't really related to this set in particular but it was moreso me thinking out loud after seeing these ongoing Mkleo upsets

@@gerardoortega323They aren’t upsets anymore.

​@@gerardoortega323I think Leo would rather have fun at this point. Which I find very respectable

Miku fan too? You basic for that

@@memenazi7078 i'm happy with what i like, i don't mind being basic

​@@NaokiMiku19own that fraud🔥💯

I had the exact same thought

Buff Marth damage

I think it was Shulk because of Barrier Montado messing with combos

Mario's worst match-up is Shulk, but I highly doubt Leo would consider picking him now given how hard he is.

Sword fighters in general are really good against mario but i have no clue how kurama makes it work even against the likes of spargo

​@@wuhhlfarg5578not "really good" Mario doesnt really have bad matchups, all it depends on is how easier it is to get his Combos going. Characters like Shulk are the exeptions.

@@Alexrun902 overrated character. Shield Monado doesn't win games and outside of that he's not good. In cqc. Mario wins that mu

Nel ya no

@@netowgtz tal vez para tí no pero pará mí y muchos más sí.

@@SEBAS-97 el ya tiene su legado, siempre es genial ver a una leyenda.

Te alegra ver la arrastrada que le dieron con esa Lucina que solo fue a meter las tapas!?

Tranquilo bro!, solo es un juego, el principal objetivo es entretener a las personas como cualquier juego, yo nunca dije que me alegraba que le hayan dado una arrastrada, sólo dije que me alegro por su aparición en el comienzo del tercer juego, no hay por qué tomarse les cosas tan enserio y mucho menos pensar en lo negativo.

Y será la última vez que la use! Mejor que vuelva a seguir buscando la gloria con sus personajes rotos

​@@Asapboy81 Marth roto? 😂😂😂

@@Asapboy81 XD, te molesta que el tenga un legado y tu no?

I think onin(pocket) actually has that

Yeah plus mixup Dairs are often Marth's best landing option esp for anti-parry timing, pancake landing, and high reward. He did none of that. But still Kurama wasn't going to let him even do that for long before adapting

I don't think there was a single character who could have saved Leo from this incineration.

This wasn't a character issue. Kurama was just playing better.

I mean yea Leo was super predictable with his landing aerials on his shield

@@geraltrivia9565 I didn't wanna be one of those guys who tries to think they know more than a professional player, but I do agree that that's what it seemed like. It felt like he was doing autopilot moves while Kurama was super focused

Its literally even... and Marth does not have a "big sword" Almost no FE Char has, its disjoints "being the problem" and not range. Half the Cast can outrange Swordies Most of Marios Move don't have a problem to atleast trade with Marth Marth has to work harder to actually keep Mario off and get actual combos while miss spacing once gets you to 70%

@@juliendreemurr654 cap when i say big sword i mean in comparison to mario limbs. If you're telling me Marth Foward tilt vs any of mario's moves other than his projectiles is a good trade then idk man. If the mario knows/is playing the matchup better than a Marth and he gets in, he definitely can wreak havoc just as Kurama did. But Marth definitely has the tools to keep him out, but it's just not as simple as just autopiloting buttons on shield cuz if that Mario is proficient at Parry punishes then you'll see something similar to what happens in this vid. Marth already is one of those characters that matchups are volatile anyways because you need to already be a god at spacing and punishes in order to utilize his tippers. If not, you're literally just playing worse Lucina.

@@GoharioFTW I know what you meant and i know where you got that flawed logic from + you said it right after. If you think just because 1 move outranges Mario means everything outranges him then thats pathetic. You only would use this flawed logic when you know im right.

Weird

He does suck in ultimate though

@@EarthUPChe doesn’t suck you just gotta have immaculate spacing and micro spacing and control of the stage he’s just technical.

@@megachris2610yea and being an extremely technical character in ultimate is a net negative

@@Gabi-nq7vz true i main sora and I used to main peach and you gotta just dedicate to the character eventually it pays off for you regardless

Kurama is just that good.

Yeah because Mario combos are fucking crack. If you have a reliable option, why wouldn't you abuse it

Bro watched his first Kurama set☠️ to think this is his only combo

more like the player was the problem, you dont see that combo consistency from anyone else other than the best mario himself

They aren’t upsets anymore lmao

Leo's is kinda like Melee's Mang0. They get burned out after grinding and winning for years. Then they fall off hard and come back to top positions, but not top 1#

I think Leo wants to have fun and enjoy life more

Well he did beat Kurama back at Crown the Third, granted he went byleth

@@smokeybeartx2001then why didnt he go byleth this time ??

@@gabriieIl cause people gas light him into using Marth lmao

@@BladeVoltzhis byleth got shat on by superdog

How can we see if Leo have cold hands?🤔 Also a leo fan btw

Exactly! Smash bros before the hoes!!!

lol na just let him play Marth eventually he'll start winning majors with him.

The h2h chart clearly showed leo was up 1.

I'm pretty sure Mario beats joker, and even if he doesn't Leo usually loses against Mario as joker

yes mario beats joker

Oh ok 👍

Mario can delete stocks off of combo strings, which is VERY useful if you don’t want to deal with Arsene