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LMP1 vs LMH - Toyota TS050/GR010 Speed Comparison 

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Credit: FIAWEC/Toyota Gazoo Racing
This video was made to show a hotlap comparison between the LMP1 TS050 and the LMH GR010 both made by toyota.

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Комментарии : 82   
@oskarooni
@oskarooni 3 года назад
It's quite impressive that they're this close, while the Hypecars at 80% cheaper to run than the LMP1s! Hopefully this'll attract more customers and manufacturers!
@MrMegacurie
@MrMegacurie 2 года назад
LMP1 was extremly restricted, without restrictions the TSO50 would be a different story ( see 919 Evo)
@countinfinity776
@countinfinity776 2 года назад
Are they really that much cheaper, that's great, i really hope we see more manufacturers joining then.
@mememanfresh
@mememanfresh 2 года назад
80/20 rule
@LucaTgaard
@LucaTgaard 2 года назад
@@countinfinity776 currently they cost around 20.000.000 for a program. LMP1 was 200.000.000 for a program. Totally different
@muhammadnurakbar4188
@muhammadnurakbar4188 2 года назад
Your wish have been granted, soo many manufacturers will join
@harrybarton6023
@harrybarton6023 2 года назад
You cant compare those laps. The hypercar got massive traffic through the fastest points. If you look at the individual sector times, the middle sector looked rather identical. I think that they are a lot closer than the video suggests
@kikoelargento9905
@kikoelargento9905 2 года назад
Indeed...Exactly what i was going to write ...not comparable
@Nick-rx2zu
@Nick-rx2zu 2 года назад
indeed, it is not comparable, but the LMP1 is also very very restircted as well.
@TheNecromancer6666
@TheNecromancer6666 2 года назад
They are not. Sadly. The Hypercars are 160 to 180kg heavier, have half the horsepower and while they have colossal downforce they have a huge frontal area making them super draggy. The Hypercar is not a prototype racecar its disgrace. A fucking disgrace the Hypercar would not have one a single LMP1 race since 2000. LMP900, LMP1, All of then were faster. Even the "Baby LMPs" of 2011 were way way faster... those cars are a shame...
@SebiKoerner
@SebiKoerner Год назад
And it’s slowed down extremely by the BoP because of the extremely slow Glickenhaus.
@bocahdongo7769
@bocahdongo7769 Год назад
@@TheNecromancer6666 who care Everyone joining.
@jonathancouch6261
@jonathancouch6261 2 года назад
I love the engine sound of lmp1
@kee3491
@kee3491 2 года назад
I’m gonna miss lmp1 in the wec but the Hypercars do look cool doe.
@Holoflux
@Holoflux 2 года назад
Amazing how people only see "slower car" One car has development budgets that skyrocketed to Formula 1 levels The other is fairly reasonable to operate on a budget
@viski8450
@viski8450 3 года назад
The quali pace was much closer (1 sec), and also the gr010 was held up twice during this lap.
@koraxi8958
@koraxi8958 3 года назад
Would be good to see a comparison w/o traffic on both sides. While the out come I'm sure would still have the TS050 having a faster pace, the traffic did contribute to the big gap we saw.
@bullracing1
@bullracing1 3 года назад
Nope it's not close. BOPed TS050 was closer but it's true pace is about 6 sec and 4 tenth faster
@arkeusalexander9054
@arkeusalexander9054 2 года назад
TS050 did 1m53s at Spa in 2017 and 2019, same goes for Porsche in 2017. So this lap is nowhere near it's true capability.
@ShionShinigami
@ShionShinigami 3 года назад
They call it hypercar, but with 700hp and 1030kg they will be 10-15 seconds slower than the LMP1s and more like GT1 cars.
@foxgaming76yt24
@foxgaming76yt24 3 года назад
Hypercars will never be faster than prototypes, it's pretty obvious, since hypercars also have to follow the strict regulation of being road legal.
@grimm6jack
@grimm6jack 3 года назад
actually they have almost 1000hp... They do weigh in almost 150kg more and have a bit less downforce because of the strict regulations. But they won't be 10-15 seconds slower... Maybe 10 seconds slower at Le Mans which is a very big track but not nearly as much in the other tracks.
@LorenzoTuratti
@LorenzoTuratti 2 года назад
@@grimm6jack for what concern hypercars, 680 hp is the maximum power output allowed from regulations. (electric motor+perrol engine)
@grimm6jack
@grimm6jack 2 года назад
@@LorenzoTuratti somehow I read that the combined power was 930hp on this toyota GR010... but yes ive read several sources saying its about 680. Which source was the one that stated 930? Cant remember but I do believe reading that number.
@bababooey6521
@bababooey6521 2 года назад
@@grimm6jack 939 combined HP, 1,040 KG (2,293LBS) and it uses Total Excellium fuel
@JurijsFjodorovs1995
@JurijsFjodorovs1995 3 года назад
Wow, much slower than before, amazing
@felixlueggerto
@felixlueggerto 3 года назад
That was kinda the point of the LMH Cars
@viiscfm
@viiscfm 3 года назад
LMH was never designed to be faster than LMP1
@GuntanksInSpace
@GuntanksInSpace 3 года назад
I can not read that sentence without Alonso's voice lol
@swiftshin3774
@swiftshin3774 3 года назад
The car feels good,
@Ayad719
@Ayad719 3 года назад
AH GP2 ENGINE AHHHHHH
@PozzaPizz
@PozzaPizz 2 года назад
Very exciting
@muhammadbimosatriowidjokon9636
@muhammadbimosatriowidjokon9636 2 года назад
Will you be making one for kobayashi's le mans hyperpole?
@imacg3859
@imacg3859 2 года назад
Kinda obvious that the Hypercar is slower in this vid, cuz they encountered a lot of lapped car that took a bit longer to yield
@arkeusalexander9054
@arkeusalexander9054 2 года назад
There is a gap of 8 seconds between LMP1 and Hypercars fastest time at Spa. 1m53 vs 2m01. So Hypercars don't stand a chance against P1.
@kingarturo6042
@kingarturo6042 Год назад
It would be closer if the wec would allow the lmh to activate its front-wheel-drive electric motor sooner
@ShahidKhan-lr3kp
@ShahidKhan-lr3kp 2 года назад
man, i got to get me one of those. any one of those !
@kikoelargento9905
@kikoelargento9905 2 года назад
1100kg 650HP vs 900kg 1000HP...really where is the evolution on this?i used to thought the WEC tested the latest motor techs in order to put them into work some years after in the market of supercars first and later more common cars We can only wait for new brands to entry or this will a complete failure
@supmo68
@supmo68 2 года назад
LMP1 was extremly expensive while LMDH is way cheaper and produces an acceptable laptime and better competition than LMP1
@coolstar2398
@coolstar2398 7 месяцев назад
I’d love to have a car with the aero of one of these cars for the road. Keep the electronics and get a more useable petrol engine.
@TheNecromancer6666
@TheNecromancer6666 2 года назад
A purebred prototype racecar and a Large, heavy limo that somehow wandered on a racetrack...
@danthe3d71
@danthe3d71 3 года назад
Gr10 is heavier and its hybrid power is cut by 45 percent simply because there is no competition if it was to be de restricted if would run same as tso50 or faster it has better more aerodynamically capable body
@MrMegacurie
@MrMegacurie 2 года назад
TSO50 was even more restricted.
@danthe3d71
@danthe3d71 2 года назад
@@MrMegacurie it was running fully open when audi and Porsche was racing when they pulled out hybrid power was cut by 45 percent and weight was added cutting power from 986bhp or 1000ps to around 750bhp and was still a lot faster than competition until competitirs switched to new Gibson engine then it was very close race
@arkeusalexander9054
@arkeusalexander9054 2 года назад
There is a gap of almost 8 seconds between TS050 and GR010 fastest qualifying at Spa. And if you are talking about restrictions, just look at Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo without restriction and you will understand that Hypercars do not stand a chance against LMP1, also they are way cheaper and less advanced in term of technology.
@lemans_news_and_stories
@lemans_news_and_stories 2 года назад
Which years? 2020/2021? The TS050 did get massive Performance brakes because of ots dominance from 2018 onwards. The fastest was car in 2017. Also the GR010 also was two seconds faster in 2021 than 2022 in Spa because of again massive BoP brakes...
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 2 года назад
i don't get the "hypercar class". It's supposed to be a top tier performance class on a much smaller budget than LMP1 hybrid cars of the 2014-17 era. All the work to make a new chassis, powerplant and hybrid system, and it is only 1-2 seconds faster than a LMP2 car which uses a standardised chassis and engine...
@mavericvinaleclirycF35V
@mavericvinaleclirycF35V Год назад
LMP1 were faster during every corner, LMH faster in the long straight line speed.
@arkeusalexander9054
@arkeusalexander9054 Год назад
In qualifying the Toyota TS050 is like 6 seconds and a half faster than this (1m53s)
@mymindmakesnoises
@mymindmakesnoises 3 года назад
this comp is useless
@didickcheeseburger
@didickcheeseburger Год назад
the hypercar had to go through eau rouge behind a gt car.
@Malick-ix9io
@Malick-ix9io 2 года назад
Hypercar is not hyper...
@QuinnBoone
@QuinnBoone 2 года назад
They're slowing everything down for that money....
@user-mh4gu9js1w
@user-mh4gu9js1w 2 года назад
こんなに差があるんや‥‥!
@OldManGaming69
@OldManGaming69 2 года назад
Not a fair comparison really, one had lots of traffic and the other didn't. Good vid though.
@arkeusalexander9054
@arkeusalexander9054 2 года назад
Even tho, LMP1 are way faster. The LMP1 qualifying record at Spa is 1m53s while Hypercar qualifying record is 2m01s. There is a gap of 8 seconds...
@Tonyt346
@Tonyt346 3 года назад
Incredible stupid idea to remove lmp1... Crazy... Rip LMP Top class
@Faan-iv3li
@Faan-iv3li 2 года назад
They did this to reduce cost. And to attract more competitors.
@supmo68
@supmo68 2 года назад
Dude only Toyota was left in LMP1. Why would you hold to this class when its obviously dying out. LMDH brings new life to Le Mans and WEC and helps it on the long run because its a lot cheaper
@ryanjonathanmartin3933
@ryanjonathanmartin3933 2 года назад
Yeah. Either LMP1 RIPs so that we get a new class with more competitive seasons and more manufacturers or LMP1 RIPs without a replacement because nobody has the cash to join (except Toyota of course). Your choice. When Audi and Porsche left the class, I knew LMP1 was over. It was only a matter of time.
@guillaume_Chr
@guillaume_Chr 3 года назад
The engine sound is a disaster .
@deggis4
@deggis4 3 года назад
That's just the way the mic was installed in that (right) video. It is not from a tv broadcast. The engine pretty much sounds the same because it pretty much is the same engine (just larger version).
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