Localizer Has Meltdown Over Accurate Translations 

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Rev... getting the credit is the step she needs to try and get money from them. The idea is, if she can get them to acknowledge her, she has a case to make money off them

**Cheap* *M A R K E T I N G*

It's like yeah, I know Japanese society isn't any more accepting of me than western culture, but can't I just escape to the weeby fantasy world for a bit?

watch them seeth when people really don't want them to "localize"... they want it translated... ONLY. you take the non-english words and make them to as near to what an english speaking schmuck can understand. Hell leave in the weird eastern parables and jokes so maybe we learn something. I know they have to destroy those jokes half the time because of limits on how the background delivers lines believably but still. (also that Yu Yu Hakusho episode that was entirely word games that toitally would not have made sense in english)

Japanese people has the same thing too. And it cannot understand because it's may too hidden sir

They should make that into an hour tbh 23 minutes goes by in an instant

I agree. We to get away from toxicity, not bring it over.

If the distribution team actually gave a damn about being accurate to the source material, Katrina and her ilk would have been fired and blacklisted long ago - the problem comes from the top down, so it doesn't surprise me that folks who don't actually respect anime and manga unless it makes them money would let identity politics loons purposefully mistranslate properties for personal satisfaction.

All of those that change anime/mangaka to fit their own vision going over what the original owners/developers wanted.

This revisionism is doing actual harm to anime' as a medium. Amen! I would bet there are plenty of folks out there who would do a better job given the chance.

She should be blacklisted from the industry if what Rev said at 0:40 is true. That's actually insane, imagine if that was done in actual big budget movies. Someone's head would actually roll.

@@Sepatile It is true. She does need to actually get blacklisted from every single translation and localization industry.

Karen vibes, instant redflag :D

​@@ErukanuSenpai :D

She looks like the kind of lady to stop paying for a subscription service, then get mad wondering why she can't use said service.

Karen

@@narusuke413 colon d

Power and control is what it comes down to, and it's incredibly addictive to people like that. If they can't have it or control it, it drives them mad, let alone make them destructive.

Did some looking into the Power cosplayer, she legit has a point. She never wanted royalties or claimed ownership. She honestly just wanted a fine print acknowledgement somewhere that the figure was based off of her cosplay, which, when looking at the original pictures, yeah it sure as hell was. So just a small "outfit based on cosplay by Vinne" in the footnotes somewhere was all she was looking for.

For cosplayer she just want to be credited nothing more nothing less.

I agree with previous comments. Vinnie at least deserved some credit for her work. Price they selling this figures and amout of hype is overdosed while she done half of work for this figure (without knowing) and even didnt get any credit for it.

I dunno why people don't just make their own sites to post their art; Sites these days can't be that expensive. Yeah, they'll have to pay to keep the sites open, but it's a small price to pay to defy censorship.

And proceeds to YASS QUEEN similar inaccurate translators in the process while still make it about her or whatever her made-up gender is. At this point, I'm just too disappointed that the Anime and Manga "Community" didn't out these clowns or make a laughingstock of them until they drop off every Anime and Manga "Wokecalization" ( Woke+Localization ) that they're trying to do

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**4-Kids* ..... is looooooking *MIGHHHHHHTY* Better right now ..... ☠️☠️☠️☠️ 🤠🤠🤠

Makes you wonder how she still gets work...🤔

​@@Need_RnR i mean, 4Kid's localizations are goofy ahh, hers is just...

Infect, subvert, control, decay and destroy Rinse and repeat

Yup, it's all about control.

If they want orderly evil, then we shall fight back with chaotic good.

Pretty much. They claim to be against slavery, yet act as the slave owners in terms of pop culture.

​@David Timmer Which is pretty on-point when you consider the political leanings of such people.

This is what happens when you allow Twitter users to have translating jobs

*_THE MESSAGE_*

Yep.

@@just_a_turtle_chad I think it's more in line with Entitled First World Children. Because as someone from the "Third World", I can see using Twitter to grow an audience ( whether I like it or not ) is a modern "need to do" nowadays

​​@@Anugrah_Amriza us third worlders have to go out and touch grass to put food on our plates rather than slob on social media 24/7. that's how we're still retaining sanity.

I'm a translator well.. aspiring to become one, And I don't get why these losers got jobs of one in the first place when there's several other people which is more qualified for the job didn't get the job of translating anime and manga

​@@Anugrah_Amriza three letters; ESG. Defies all known laws of economics, so long as it gets its funding

@@callumbreton8930 There's also that the licensors in the West have an industry that is very much centralized around a few specific companies and so people who don't play ball with the club aren't given prominence. Honestly it's not unlike a cartel. Remember Vic?

@@callumbreton8930 Dude. Having studied this trend in investment and corporate finance, this ain't ESG by any measure. You probably threw this term in there as some sort of anti-woke agenda. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are many reasons why unqualified people get into jobs. Boiling down nepotism, persuasion, or some stupid thing like fitting into the company culture (defined by whoever decides it to be) are all factors.

@Synchroni True, but in this case it's obvious she got that job because her woke profile; this problem has been happening with other localizers, and all of them were woke, it seems it's a requiremenf to get the job.

Kore wa nan desu ka? -what is this? Kore wa..kore desu.

@A cute Lil' Mint i'd more go with something like this: Casual setting: これは何が？ Formal setting: これは何がです？ But that's just based on what i've picked up so far lol i'll have to ask my sensei's their thoughts

​@@bradyp8868 If 何 is used with が, I thought it was mostly used when you want to ask questions like this. Like, 何がおかしい? as in “what’s so funny?” Or, 何が原因ですか？as in “what is the cause?” and then you have the variation with これは and この, (with it’s それ/その and あれ/あの counterparts) Like, この言葉の意味は何だ？as in “what does this word mean?” or, それは何ですか？as in “what is that?” (most likely talking about something the listener has) I don’t think I’ve ever seen the combination これは何が？ , and especially not これは何がですか？ unless it’s been split up into two sentences, like a mc character coming home and finds his room trashed and utters in confusion: これは、何が？ which could mean something like “this is… what (happened)?” Although take it with a grain of salt as I don’t even have a sensei for Japanese. I’m completely self taught on the internet with no money spent, so I’m curious about what your sensei said about it

@ハプト that's fair, to be honest whenever i typed that out i had a specific image in my head lol I had imagined holding onto something, and you didn't know what it was, so you asked the person you're with 「えー、これは何が？」 So, it's a bit of a specific scenario. Also, i don't watch a lot of anime in general, so when i talk about Japanese , I usually speak about what i've learned about irl conversation. But I'm far from fluent, so...🤷‍♀️

It's why I like certain Japanese games, e.g on the Xbox Live Indie Games store, that just outsource a LITERAL translation, not because of funny Engrish (though it is fun to read from time to time), but because it's almost (if not exactly) 1/1 with the existing, original text/VA lines.

"True translations" don't really exist when the languages are too disconnected. It's ALWAYS the interpretation of the localizer. This can even mean changing or modifying jokes occasionally. And if it is making the end product for the viewer more enjoyable there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is not that the translation isn't "true", the problem is that it isn't just an interpretation, how it should be, the problem is that they insert their own narrative.

Agreed. At this point, I'd happily deal with the Engrish of non-native speakers, just to have actual Japanese people, who respect the source doing the work.

@@ThePandafriend Absolutely untrue. In Excel Saga, they did direct translation, even though it meant they had to have a "Translation notes" subtitle option with sometimes PAGES of text explaining jokes. I watched the whole thing like that, pausing to read them all, and appreciated it.

@ThePandafriend Two other languages I speak well besides English are German and Russian. The proximity of languages and also the proximity of cultures represented by the languages has much to do with translation. While no culture and no language is truly so far apart as to be completely mutually incomprehensible and under and untranslatable the further things are apart the harder it’s going to be. Even in language and culture as close as English (US) and German, you of course get differences. It’s still possible to have extensive amounts of the vocalization be basically Word for Word translations that even sound like each other. Apart from the German organization fetish and the American irreverent streak as well as the fact German doesn’t have a Latin substrate making up 30% of its words things are going to be pretty similar. But even going from English to another fellow European language like Russian presents quite significant barriers. Between the very different words and strongly different grammar is there’s also the differences an expression and speech style as well as mutually absent layers of expression that don’t translate between the two. For example English can do all kinds of really cool tricks with conditionality, modality, agency, and time. Russian can’t. Russian has access to a very powerful set of affixes which can be compounded on each other to give extreme levels of precision, English lacks this. Going between English and Russian isn’t too difficult once you’ve actually learned how to express yourself properly in the other language. Now I wouldn’t have any idea how to translate between English and something so foreign as Japanese. And everything from word order to grow and stations to social contacts to branch direction the languages are extremely different. Apart from some extremely basic sentences direct translation is impossible so what is necessary is what you called it more like interpretation.

Maybe fansubs will help

@@eloas3260 Them seven seas be oh so fair in comparison... and I'm not even being sarcastic with that remark.

Good thing I'm waiting until I learn Japanese and move to Japan to start buying anime.

Yea.

Hey, if anybody knows anyone who does accurate *fandubs,* I encourage *you* to encourage *them* to aim for the big leagues. The more good localizers there are, the less bad localizers there will be.

I truly hope you are right, but it seems lately that "the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity". (quoting W.B. Yeats.)

and i upset that she get speaking time at gdc

does that one occurrence you've experienced happen to be 'ghost stories'?

no no. these fucks have a mindset that they are "writer" instead of translator thats why they love to rewrite dialogue because they think they can write a better story and hijacks the original content

@@FishSandvich Funnily, I think the holders for Ghost Stories knew their IP was dogshit. So they basically told the translation team to have at it because they didn't care for it.

The lesbians in Sailor Moon got turned into cousins or some shit but they kept all the flirting in. Made it really awkward.

I've kind of experienced the whole "changing personalities" thing. When I was younger only dubbed anime played on TV, and I watched the dub of yugioh GX. And while I don't really care now that I'm an adult, I still prefer subs. Turns out, in the dub, the students just absolutely hate on Crowley for no reason, while in the original they actually have respect for him(they still hate on him, but not as much as it is in the dub)

Oh yeah definitely, there's no way Power knows how to shave

On the other hand, she does pad her bra.

The most Power would do would be to take a pair of office scissors to get whatever happens to be in the way or uncomfortable in the moment. Yes, it would be that long.

They're basically doing what Pornhub did a few years back, with basically the same excuse and the same actual reasoning. It's sad, but this bullshit works out for the platform. Makes them look good and keeps the paychecks coming, content creators be damned. It's not like they're paying customers.

Yea its a bummer because pixiv is getting very popular in the west. and it was replacing deviant art. pixiv has been around since the 2000s but it only started to get popular in the west more recently.

​@@trielt1 did you forget all the underage revenge porn that flooded PornHub in the months prior to the creditcard companies pulling out?

I also hate how the people most likely celebrating this are the same ones with the power to set demands or people like parents who say "think of the children", no realizing they are basically ruining shomething beyond repair in this day and age.

If it's gonna be another tumblr situation, then twitter is going to have a few new migrants to deal with. Just imagine the screeching when they see the site being flooded with more anime nsfw-artists...

Tbf they did out there foot down on pornhub

They are harassing the mainstream porn industry too.

@@yotvvan2472 Doesn't seem as frequent as with anime porn. The last I recall of actual porn getting hit was when they tried to pull out of OnlyFans. Only to come back crying after realizing how hard the site was going to fall off without eGirl lewds. So you'd think between that and the Tumblr Exodus that these busybodies would learn to cease their bullshit and stop trying to morally police something that's making them and their partners bank.

@@espurrseyes42 As someone that has worked as a developer for porn studios I can confirm that there is a LOT of crap all porn makers have to go through in order to get approved to use various card companies, and each company has different requirements. Some companies also take a very long time for the approval process and may nitpick in a spoonfeeding fashion that extends the process time. And the fact of the matter is if you want to accept their card for payments, you have to do what they say. They literally hold the cards here.

Using financial companies to limit rights has been a classic go-to for the government. They employ the same strategy to try to destroy the second amendment along with the first.

They only pull the "morals" card on little people they don't like. They never had any moral objections about sidestepping legislation to bank for cartels and dictators.

Ive said for a long time that it's time for Visa and Mastercard to be put in their place, but it ain't gonna happen because they work with the government to backdoor bans on otherwise legal merchandise (guns, art, etc).

@@peonixgold Tarot cards or anything they deemed "occult paraphernalia". Technically, my store could be refused service by the credit card companies for selling religious supplies like candles and incense.

@@SageBlackthorn it's absolutely fucking ridiculous that payment processors have the power to ban legal transactions in the first world. How the government, much less the people, haven't woken up and demanded they be reigned in, I don't know. Visa and Mastercard need to be hit with a monopoly buster.

That's how I feel too. There's a reason why fan subs don't have this issue

@@Mr_Mistah I don’t know many fan sub/translation groups that aren’t just subbing 🔞 stuff at this point. Maybe more will start doing regular sfw stuff.

Its time to learn Japanese the ship is sinking.

@@yotvvan2472 YEEEEEEEAH

@@Mr_Mistah I keep saying dubs need to get a rework

Maybe he can work on a career as a clown.

​@@piccoloblack69 better yet, fertilizer

turn a classic into those responses? thats such idiocy. "your are already dead is a significantly" more serious, final, and more important- stating it's already happened. there's no IS. theres no JUST... no, your already done, you don't know it yet.

It hurts knowing these people are out there, just living their lives like this. Where's a shame bell when you need one!

Ace combat 7 has "Spare 8 when you land your ass is grass!", but I don't think it's anything like "omae wa mou shindeiru" in the Japanese dub, and lines mentioning solitary confinement seem to be more meme-worthy.

*"HOW DARE YOU NOT INSERT !MY! POLITICS" You just know she'd also throw a fit when someone else inserts their politics if she disagrees with them.

I guess they have no idea?

My guess is, that the Wokecalizers ( Woke+Localizer ) would go scorched earth if things were to be escalated to their boss, hence why they're playing the Block the Criticism game in order to be able to keep their jobs. Is it far fetched? a little, but still within the realm of reason

The studio either doesn't know or is told this is what sells to the west

Most likely it's that in part of the licensing procedure they give full creative control of the translation to the overseas company. And that a lot of times the owners of the IP in Japan don't particularly care. Although there have been a few of the high profile cases where the original CREATORS have heard about controversies and had to speak about them (sometimes falling into the camp of the woke, actually) but often a mangaka actually doesn't have absolute authority as to how his or her product gets handled on the business side of things (the publisher gets that) so all they really can do is try and clear the air on what the original lines are actually are trying to get across.

The woke mentality has so much influence there is not real way to avoid it when doing business in the west. these companies care about easy profit so they will just submit. because they may get boycotted by western corporations. get their marketing sabotaged they can't get their blue rays and manga published forcing them to be online only. and they may even get banned from countries like Australia and Germany so its not worth the risk. maybe you would risk it but you will make much less money so its not worth it for corporations.

I honestly can't help but to feel the same way and I can't help but to feel hollow at this point

I hope we will live in a future where people can distinguish from a real life child and a little anime girl I hope the best for you bro 😢

I hope the best for you as well Sincerely, from a Huge oppai enthusiast

@@captaintakis1984 I hope we can live in a future where creative freedom and the ability to tell very dark stories is a thing again. I hope we can live in a future where people don't use children for their arguments against something they don't like. That includes movies like pretty baby and cuties. I don't give a fuck if you film a child naked or do simulated thing to them. Just don't physically harm them and we are good.

​@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks Bruh... You either glow like a chemlight, or you really need help.

Yeah, they're going to need all the support they can get, because if they work for this pink-haired harridan they are very likely to get fired and cancelled for doing their jobs. I really hope none of these translators are actual Japanese nationals, as this would be horribly offensive and racist of our pink-haired little pony.

Indeed. They may not wear a cape. But these faithful, translators are the heroes anime/game (dubs/subs) desperately needs.😊

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GONE WRONG

gone sexual

* Fire Emblem Engage intensifies *

Rainbow Hairs most affected and traumatized

she try to infect game industry too 😢

With the crap she's pulling, if she tries ANYTHING by Toei (or any other big name studio), she's getting the boot almost immediately. Hell, she's probably on at least one studio's blacklist.

They don't even want it to reflect US culture, but rather their subsect of culture that sees itself as superior to all other cultures and desires to assert itself on everyone else (not even realizing where it came from and how evil is actually is).

liberal culture is not US culture

It's that colonizer mindset. They may not like to admit it, but they're exactly like the Europe of old that felt their culture needed to replace the "savage" and "backwards" ideals of all these far off lands.

Tbf, the reason we like anime is because it's so alien to the California mindset.

Crypto-currencies used to be a solution.

@@jacekhozejowski2869 crypto turned most people off thanks to all the scams unfortunately

I'm not big on Chainsaw Man lore but a possible explanation could also be that she just doesn't grow new hair and the body is just as is when she took it over.

It's pretty clear from the manga and even the anime, Aki and even Denji forced her to behave, clean and groom herself as a natural part of their cohabitation. We see her progress though the manga, at the end being able to behave *almost* normally among her mates. And same goes for Denji after starting his life with Aki, he's changed a lot (part 2 Denji is on another level). They're both wild, feral boys that can be tamed and socialized with time and care.

@@thelegendaryklobb2879 I would have agreed it was Aki but I remembered she’s presentable from panel one so personally I think it’s [spoilers]

I doubt Makima would have her around smelling like ass anyway and looking unpresentable. I just took it as Power prefers not to be clean. It doesn't mean she can't clean. People took that dialogue to literally i think.

@@thelegendaryklobb2879 japanese in general don't usually shave their pubes...

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vagrant story was such a good game, i didnt know the story got improved by translation

Try nijie.

I guess they followed the intonation of the VA.

​@@norasyikinali6283 commas and intonations sometimes don't match. One misplaced comma doesn't mean that the translation has been changed.

That seems too easy for a badge of honor though😂as these snowflakes block everyone they see

The comma *would* be wrong, but remember that she is complaining about a *dub,* not a sub. Why would I trust her to accurately sub a dub when she refuses to accurately sub the original property?

Then they will just be Japanese Deviant Art at that point, full of just utter garbage and people outright misusing the site as a general image host.

The next website is either made by Artist making a new website and are strictly who can watch and who can enter, like how Touhou have a invitation ticket so mabey they need do that and the moment they see some odd once mass flags people but doenst watch them or support the artist with like,favo should be banned either keep Banning or op Banning at some point Another option whould going to Newgeound or FA another whould be completely new website or your own website but that hard to get following

No they didn't. Instead they encouraged it.

There's a much bigger blackmailer which blackmails everything it invests in (BlackRock and Vanguard). Paypal is prolly their biggest payment processor, which is pretty much owned by Blackrock and Vanguard. We should stop blaming individual companies directly, it's these scumbag companies who want to force their ESG policies onto every company they are part of. Every time you see a company going woke, see who their biggest investors are. Once you see Anime publishing companies with these shareholders, it's too late. They'll be the ones controlling the game from then on and the companies can't do anything but suck their dick. Imagine a world where anime girls start looking like men, every third character is black, disabled or transexual. It would be a future where every shounen anime would be cancelled for more "diverse" content which aims to please "everyone". There's no longer audiences, since everyone is represented and taken into account - except the actual people who loves the genre. That's what BlackRock and Vanguard are pushing for. They want companies to be more "socially aware" and want to see that reflected into their product.

I mean they did completely copy her cosplay and that fan figurine came out month after her pic

Most likely “What is this?” She probably translates it as Japanese people often omit “nani” when asking “what is this” because 何 is often inferred by the situation. これは(何)? She probably wants it to be translated like the sentence is complete. But honestly I feel like translating the incomplete sentence “これは” as an incomplete English sentence “this is” is completely fine. It’s not like English speakers are incapable of understanding context and inferred words

More like it resurrected itself.

Exhentai if you care enough to set up an e-hentai account and do all the bullshit needed to get to the x site (like waiting a week after creating your account, going to a gallery on the latter site, and then changing that '-' into an 'x'). And I guess sankakucomplex is aight.

These sites can sue, the issue is that the site would haft to prove that the cardholder would kneecap their business if they pulled out of their site. providing proof is very hard to do considering the US will play mental gymnastics the same way the US considers a fraction of a fraction of a fraction competing with amazon a fair competition when it's clearly a monopoly.

But also, any time a sculptor makes something, they have to look at reference images if they want a good result. They probably did use that cosplay pic as one of several reference images for the front view, particularly the lower half, to get the anatomical details of the pelvic region in a thong right... not just the cooch, but the subtle curves of muscles on the tummy and on the thighs... things that are easy to mess up. It doesn't really make her cosplay that special in the grand scheme of things, though. Had it not been available there's plenty of other pics of girls in tiny thongs striking that sort of pose floating around the internet.

This is Dodomo we’re talking about. That picture they posted is of a 3D render, not a prototype. It could have been made in a day. The final product will also not look nearly that good. Just look at how their Marin figure turned out.

the level of detail of the lower half on the figure is nearly identical to the cosplayer and the dates are bout 3.5 months apart. it's also not an official figure (i wouldn't be surprised if it was 1 person in a bedroom 3d printing them tbh)

@@ZainKaneko Yeah, but so what? Artists use random images off the internet as reference material all the time. She's not as special as she thinks.

This is Dodomo, they are a sham company that uses 3D renders to convince people to pay ridiculous prices for crap products. Just look at how their Marin figure turned out compared to the promotional images.

Can't blame them of if users keep posting porn everyday.

@@someguywithabirdface2583 Literally wtf are you talking about

@@someguywithabirdface2583 Ummmmm...that's what Pixiv is for.

@@Ashurman666 ai live action porn

@@someguywithabirdface2583 Please tell me you're being sarcastic.