'Lockdowns are classist' - Dr Jay Bhattacharya reveals the truth about Covid | SpectatorTV 

Biggest scandal of all time. Slowly waking up.

I disagree with the interviewer's claim that we had so little information. We had an abundance of information gleaned from centuries of experience and study of viruses, economics, best medical practices, etc. And we had pandemic emergency preparedness plans built on that accumulated knowledge. Virtually any country, had they followed their plan, would have had a response similar to Sweden's. Instead, we experimented with interventions made up in a state of hysteria. We imposed these interventions on our children. It was a clear violation of the most fundamental maxim of medicine: do no harm.

Dr. Jay Battacharya is a true hero. Thank you for giving this single, 60 year old working class woman a voice. I will never recover economically from the lockdown and will now work until I die.

She thinks the “vaccines” saved millions of lives??!! 😂

in New York City you couldn't get a job, including private businesses, if you were unvaxed, and that's a fact. we should never forget what happened during those years.

I remember snotty glorified newsreaders being incredibly rude to Dr Sunetra Gupta during the pandemic for her very valid views. The pandemic hysteria was madness and we'll be paying the price for years to come.

I didn’t take the jab because I didn’t need it. And I said lockdowns would be a disaster. Spoiler alert… It wasn’t difficult to work out.

The interviewer states "the vaccines saved millions of lives" , citation needed

4 years to late. Well done "The Spectator", you should of spoke out at the time but you didn't for SOME reason.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Posterity will not look kindly upon our time. But Jay among a few others will be remembered for their truth, honest and courage. Well done man! You certainly set an example for me to follow. Hopefully others too.

Two Scientists ignored and sidelined if not ridiculed by the orthodoxy at the Height of the UK Covid hysteria.

Policymakers who ignored the data from the Diamond Princess cannot claim they did not know enough to do anything different than they did.

Wait, if you have very little information, then you have no right whatsoever to mandate anything to anybody. Secondly, knowing they have very little information, it is incumbent upon them to declare it, not doing so and saying "I am the science, disagreeing with me is disagreeing with the science" is morally repugnant. Thirdly, in a democracy, dictatorship for any reason and by any means are still dictatorships.

I worked throughout 'the pandemic' seven days a week providing food for those who couldn't or wouldn't access supermarkets. Throughout it was quite apparent that some (but not all) of the laptop classes and elderly apparently believed that they were somehow selflessly saving lives through their actions. Never once did it occur to them that had a good many of the working classes adopted their exact same attitudes (or been able to) then there would have been zero food on the shelves and no vital services for them to avail themselves of. Covid taught me a helluva a lot about human nature in a short space of time and most of it wasn't good sadly.

Let alone it was not a vaccine

What if the lockdowns and the masks were just an aggressive advertising campaign to introduce mRNA technology? Sounds unlikely, but many puzzle pieces fall into place from this perspective.

What possible excuse or reason is there to redact these documents? As for 'the vaccines worked' - ?????!!!!!! Very, very few people actually needed a vaccine. Very few.

"Group think"? Puppets don't think.

For many the chapter isn't ever going to be closed. People need holding to account for this fiasco. The chapter won't be closed because the fallout from this fiasco will go on for years. So glad we never took the shot.

Let's start by bringing back the days when you could post a theory of a conspiracy, and it would not be censored online, and other people could read it.

When covid came up, I looked up how big a covid virus is. Turns out it's small, very very small. In fact stupidly small. I then thought, this can't be stopped! Took me 5 minutes 😂

I had a thriving business, a nice home and I was locked down, with the result of the loss of my business, loss of my home, loss of my savings and now at 66 I have to live in a van. I cannot on my pension afford to rent anything and are not eligible for a council property. My mp said there are no compensation funds. So I am expected to walk away with nothing due to no fault of my own.

Clearly, whoever runs the country does not want the whole picture subject to scrutiny. The question is, wno is pulling the strings?

"Trickle-down epidemiology" in the US was hindered when the Supreme Court ruled Biden's vaccine mandate for workers as unconstitutional. The U.S. military is dealing with a shortage of military personnel because thousands of people were denied religious exemption and so they quit. The military is currently bribing veterans to come back. I was forced into early retirement because I refused to go along with the program and had to shut down my business. An entire generation of school-age children have been traumatized by the lockdowns and I'm told by teachers I know that first-graders through 4th graders are now behind in their grade level. They're not passing basic proficiency. Middle and high schoolers faired okay academically, but emotionally and socially not so much. So when I hear someone say the medical intervention saved lives I have to ask whose lives did it save? Because I don't see it. People I know who have taken the interventions keep getting sick, and I also know people in my age group who dropped dead from heart attacks after getting the intervention. There are no coincidences.

For covid, now read climate change

The need to be speak in guarded code will make true progress difficult.. Genuine courage is needed.. if we are to bring the corrupted regime to account

Any one who died was put down as a covid death, plus the spike lines up with all the Midazolam they dished out, plus most Hospitals closed most of their wards so the Nurses could have dancing lessons, plus the Nightingale hospitals never got used. So the plandemic happened where?

Bhattacharya and Gupta being so measured in their responses but the very fact that their suggested mode of handling the Covid 19 Pandemic would work better for us and have less damaging impact on us was the very reason they were attacked and shut down so summarily. China Flu, it’s handling, everything used to give us a thoroughly crushing, demoralising experience. We and our children still trying to come out from under. Some will never recover.

Given the undisciplined and unreliable testing tools and process, there is no way to know how many people died due to covid.

The Swedish government said from the start we do not have the power to restrict the people. What happened to UK.

But it’s not over yet - Belgium virologist Geert Vanden Bossche tells us the real misery is only just beginning and will be obvious and undeniable by end June

Only duplicitous criminals who don't want to lose the power to repeat their murderous tyrannical actions would redact any information with regard to the COVID debacle. That would include ALL of our political leaders.

P.S. Thank you for interviewing both these dignified scientists.

Best quote from sunetre..," if you want to play silly mask games is up to you.

I disagree with the ‘truce’,the main problem in our world is the lack of accountability,too many of these idiots are failing upwards,where their idiocy can cause even more problems,they have had their chance,they failed…u turn required.

This was all planned. Everything went to plan. Buckle up for round 2. Its not far away.

Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

Nurse, watching dead babies born, daily codes for the adults and coworkers and families have their health continuously destroyed...there is no closing the chapter without justice and trust in healthcare from WITHIN is gone.

The suggestions on how to avoid mistakes like those from 2020-2023 in the future are sadly based on the assumption that politicians and bureaucrats have our best interest at heart, which they absolutely do not.

The vaccine was never tested for whether it prevented the spread of the virus and there was harm in the test group which was not passed on so that we had informed consent

I remain SO glad to this day that I didn't succumb to the relentless state and social bullying that surrounded those untested jabs. It wasn't simply the untested novel jabs themselves that bothered me so much as the entire principle involved in forcing people to have them based on what most people are now only slowly waking up to were highly dodgy premises.

Im unjabbed, went out when i had it and i broke all the rules nice.

Thank you!

it was not about „Covid.“ It was about control.

Thank you for the great interview and thank you Dr. Jay Bhattacharya for everything you have been doing. From Australia ❤️❤️❤️

I declared the medical system incompetent in 2007

Anyone with professional, historical, data driven objections or questions were instantly hammered down by the hysterical media. Calm conversations did not have a place during the covid circus.

The reason there is so much mudslinging is because in the US at least, even though people may not want to talk about it, they are still REALLY angry. It's a very bad thing for anger to smolder so long, but unfortunately we are still dealing with the effects of the utterly failed pandemic "response." And if you believe the predictions we will be dealing with those effects for 10-20 years. We keep hearing things like "we were trying to save lives" and "we were doing the best we could with what we knew." The first thing to understand is that people aren't stupid, even us lowly little people. It became very clear early THAT THE MITIGATION MEASURES, INCLUDING LOCKDOWN, DIDN'T WORK. No one would have minded doing the mitigation measures if they had worked, BUT THEY DID NOT. The second thing is that there has never been a bigger and clearer example of the old cliche, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." But even after it became clear the good intentions were not working they kept pushing the same failed measures AT GREAT EXPENSE TO ORDINARY PEOPLE. We, us ordinary people have already paid the price and are still paying the price. So yes, I am one of those who thinks there should be post WW2 style trials for crimes against humanity. The architects of the horrors we endured should also pay the price.

No Justice No Peace

An elite boys' school in Melbourne Australia near where I live did not lockdown. They were secretly filmed at the height of the lockdown period having an open-air party. So, yes, social class seemed to be a factor.

And of course we need to remember that the average age of a UK covid death to this day remains at roughly the same as UK average death at over 80 years old.

Friends and i had no vaccine's at all and we were all fine .I also have no spleen .

Whether incompetence / ineptitude or malice, why would those who led the CV-19 folly want to be transparent. And to discuss what was wrong with the policies without examining what was missing, such as a discipline tracking system, gene therapy quality control,,,,, Lockdowns were a confounder but/and there is so much more evidence that the policies more generally were destructive, so much so that they killed rather than protected.

The ending comment about locking down sooner with the closing piano roll nails it lol

Health Care Professionals be honest with outsiders? Why? They stil get paid the same no matter what they say or do to Members of The Public.

We need both understanding and justice. We don't come across a crash by the roadside and assume it was an accident if we are wise. We would refer to it as a collision. Same logic must apply to those sending sickly men and women among the most vulnerable. It's not wise to call it a mistake or accident until that has been well established. It's a poor descision, very possibly a deliberate and callous act of cost cutting the pension bills. These same countries are looking at or have already legalized doctors killing patients with their "consent". In quotes because it's just a box to tick, won't need to be properly assessed, any more than murdering the unborn needs proper assessment.

Why all the secrets… don’t they want to know the truth and learn from mistakes? I don’t understand how key players can have immunity from sharing information and from being transparent.

How can you prove these novels injections saved millions? One look at stats from low uptake countries doesn't really show higher COVID deaths. But im pretty sure their post pandemic excess death stats are lower. Examples being Eastern European countries such as Bulgaria.

Yes we do need to know who said what. Character matters.

Thank you

As someone who was working in a care home, I can tell you that not only did they take actions which made no sense, but they did everything possible to exacerbate infection rates. The hospitals were sending clients to us assuring us that they had 2 clear covid tests. When we checked the medical records there was no record of any test having been carried out.

"Ancient history"???

This whole situation is a joke. My personal belief is that we are stuck In progressive way of thinking about issues, even the conservatives are locked in. How we feel emotionally about something is more important than facts and instinct that are at play in the situation.

Bravo Dr. JAY..HERO

Truth in the authorities and government and health is gone for people that their eyes are open, will make my own judgements thank you lovely chat.

I’m calling for justice to be applied over Covid until I die

I live in an affluent area where there are alot of private schools! It was business as usual throughout the lockdowns!

They can't hide the truth forever

Thank you Dr Batacharya, Dr Gupta, Dr Kulldorf..when the world and its elite went mad you stood tall and had courage.

As the world seeks to close it chapter on coof - yer right, some people for sure. What is the point in debating what worked and what didnt when WHO gets to decide next time around?

My dad spent 4 years in a Japanese prison camp

At last😢. Too little too late Spectator

Yes let's have a discussion about it . . . that is always the best way to kick it into the long grass. Exactily what one has come to expect from the spectator.

8:23 - Sunetra's dog executes the perfect escape to cause likely pre-planned mischief while she is otherwise occupied. Brilliant.

It's weird finding out what we're finding out. It's weird. If we can learn, we'll be great, until then, we're just treading water. Good show.

You seem to be having a debate about having a debate

I would like to see a detailed discussion of South Dakota where the approach was similar to Sweden’s. Read South Dakota executive order 2021-08. It’s less than 3 pages and there are no redactions!

Ah yes, the Enquiry. The time honoured way of obscuring the truth and writing your preferred history.

Open them, or we're bound to repeat.

If everyone wants to move on from the Pand, why is there still Cov advice notifications below this video?

From the beginning onwards, in early March 2020 I asked myself how the whole world followed a paper by a no-name-blogger? Who stood behind Tomas Pueyo? Why did nobody ever ask this? How can sb. whose interest is "star wars" just write within a few days on which measures governments should take? He initiated "the hammer and the dance". He was never challenged, how he put his puzzle together? Is there anybody in the world who questioned this as well?

The health consequence is starting to unfold for millions. It cannot be undone.

The lockdowns and the masks did not work.. The important thing is to look after your health; good nutrition,exercise and plenty of adequate sleep will help your immune system and lower the impact. Those persons with 3 or more underlying conditions need to isolate while the rest of the world continues normally.

People want to escape their culpability.

Dr John Campbell’s latest video on stats from UK & death from medications given people is horrendous

That was obvious

During 2020, Sunetra Gupta's words fit perfectly with the situation and made the best sense to me. Even Sunetra Gupta's prediction that half of us would have immunity before vaccines came along turned out to be absolutely correct, according to the official UK immunity testing program. It's time for the government to stop using Professor Panicky, Neil Ferguson. He's good for corporate beneficiaries, not so good for the public

I want those responsible held accountable. Otherwise they will just do it again or whoever is in charge will. I want to see the evidence that the jab lowered hospitalization. They did not tell the truth about other aspects why not that one too.

The West was always spearheading the Rule of Law, part of the reason that had made the West so sucessful, yet here we are discussing the effectiveness of lockdowns and vaccine mandates. The fact of the matter is, there is a reason that no country has a side note in its civil rights charter stating that the civil rights ought to be suspended following a major crisis such as a pandemic. We experienced the collective West adopting third world countries' and dictatorial policies. It is kind of fate that it backfired by causing more harm than good, alas we should never have considered these measures in the first place. The civil rights prevail, period. And for good reason. Because history taught us that government malappropriation remained to this day the biggest cause of harm, suffering and even death! There is only so much a government can do, they could have ramped up the ICU's, informed people unbiasedly, that is about it! Since when is it the Goverment's responsibility to protect us the people from adverse life events. If you think this through to the end, we would end up in the worst dictatorship ever.

I must agree with “rareby “ , we had the Gibraltar affair with huge covid deaths regardless of the 98%”vaccination”. That took place in 2020. Then consider PNG which had an overall minus death rate with a 2% vaccinated population and using ivermectin and similar. If you talkers have so much influence etc etc why didn’t you stand up to the coercion. We have five doctors in Australia who lost their licenses because they asked questions. What would have happened if all doctors had spoken rather than remain cowards. Cheers Mike

People who worked fully remotely for NSW Govt were driven out of their jobs for refusing the poke.

Let the anchor talk a little more slowly, so that it will be easy for the hearer to understand her.

The Devil was testing the waters for acceptance of his MOTB. He is clever......

People are not created equal. And gods are not equal either, neither are demons

Pointless commenting. They remove them if they don’t like what it says.

The largest transfer of wealth from the public purse straight into private hands in history.

My mother dropped dead after the 4th shot.

Truth was the Casualty in this charade.....A.F. should be another. Sweden spoke of 4000 students who willingly were "chipped" for ease of entering a snack room and vending machines. Unreal!

Practically the continent of Africa didn't lock down, so why is this discussion so Euro centric?

100% The privileged few working from home demanding that everyone stay away. Living a country where there was NO support for wages, it was EVIL