LOGAN (2017) Clip - Charles Xavier [HD] Marvel, Patrick Stewart 

I do not think so. He really loved Logan, but he was angry on him, that he basically locked him down there.

I agree. Because logan is trying his best, but charles has lost his common sense. Thats why i liked this movie, realistically no one lives forever,

The problem is that Charles is the disappointment, all the X men are dead and Mutants almost gone even after changing the timeline, shows that Charles and his morals were just wrong.

@@joshthaller4754 uh no. Magneto's plan was shown to fail in Days of future past, the whole premise of the movie is that Magneto's way doomed the entire Mutant race to which even Magneto understood in his later years. Xavier's path of peace is what allowed the mutants to even live as long as they did and be part of society where they could even be celebrated in comic books and clearly are still alive with Laura leading them.

yeah that hurt a lot

People in old age suffer buddy no matter how much you drug them, so the children of theirs make a choice, either drug them more and make their suffering last longer, or let them die peacefully, now it is what it is, and I've seen it soo many times that I've stopped bothering about it now

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@@michaelunderhill8847 my granny is 93 , I found the behaviour of Charles pretty much the same as my granny's , brain tend to decay and describe this pattern

My father did, exactly like this, old full of white beards, I used to shave him, sometimes when he didn't want to eat turns exactly like this angry and throws away the food or medicine and sometimes scratch me or them angrily by his nails, the home nurses sometimes couldn't do it so they used to call me to do it, it's like you can't fight with them or hit them but you have to force them to eat it but not too much cause that's inhumane. Also used to do the thing when I tell him to assure me he swallowed the food or tablets he used to angrily and funnily open his mouth with tongue so out of his mouth with that silly voice like Charles which is mixed with little bit of anger and frustrating just like that exactly.

Sadly i know from experience

What is more devastating is that Wolverine went through the experience of mutant extinction and loosing the X men in two timelines, Charles and his methods were simply wrong. Choice between your ideals or the people you love, I go with the people I love.

the us military ruined mutants, because they wanted to weaponize them

That’s what Shingen told him from The Wolverine right?

@@joshthaller4754 As well as Logan being older than Charles in general and has seen the absolute worse that man has to offer and has seen time and again how people just use mutants as tools and rarely see them as actual people.

"if we were god's mistake, then FUCK god. I do what I want, and no one, not even GOD can stop me from doing that. I'll do it or die trying." is what I think when I see this scene, but I know I'd probably be no more hopeful than Logan is here. Even Charles is struggling. we all think we would have the resolve to go on, until we're beaten down so many times that it just seems easier to give in. we can't though. we absolutely cannot. we carry with us the hopes and dreams of those who will come after us. those who fight along side us. we OWE it to them to do what is right. what is just. give in and you doom an entire generation to follow you into the darkness.

Meh, Oscars are a fucking joke.

The Oscars hate superhero movies

@@MarkARoutt the Oscars hate anything that doesn't buy its way into the academy or bend over to the Chinese Cinema

People don’t respect these roles bc it’s a SuPeRhErO film but this film was fantastic and grounded as hell. I’m shocked Patrick didn’t get any recognition at all for this.

@@MarkARoutt the movie got a screenplay nom. Sag and globes passing on him first let woody Harrelson take the spot he should’ve had I think.

Sure, but to say that maybe mutants are God's mistake to the man who devoted his life to the pursuit of mutant liberation and the belief that they were the next stage in human evolution would be truly disappointing, especially after he took him in and sheltered him like a father, saving him from his prior circumstances (as he illustrates here). It's a harsh thing to hear from a role model or father figure, but Logan's words were even harsher.

Logan is also deliberately making himself something of a target; by hiding the details of *how* the rest of the X-Men died, he's choosing to endure Charles' hate and suspicion rather than force him to live with the guilt of the tragedy his own failing health caused.

@@kyransawhill6650 isn’t about who did what, family is more than that.

Charles said that Logan was a disappointment because he heard him say that mutants were God's mistake. Logan was basically agreeing with everyone that wanted mutants dead. All the villains that they had faced. Logan was on the same page as them. So yeah, Charles called him a disappointment after Logan made that idiotic comment. Logan gave up. While Charles, despite his illness and dire condition, did not give up.

Reminds me of days of future past charles

;(

it’s hard seeing Logan like this, too.

Magneto would put Charles out of his Misery tbh

He’s not himself

He said "Fuck off" to Logan

Ikr? I found it so odd when I first saw this in the cinema back in 2017. James McAvoy's Charles swearing is no big deal, but Patrick Stewart's Charles swearing was surprising.

Surprising funny and sad and at the same time

@@reneelawton1032 theyre the same person but yeah, young and still finding his way, basically a drug addict, swearing makes sense! but the noble old professor? it made me clutch my pearls!

... they do that, the elderly in their final days. It's actually the old age and pain that's making them swear like that. They can even say things that can hurt you. The neurons are not firing like they used to, it's like a haze to them. It's hard for people to understand because they think that even at your death of old age, your brain functions at 100% to give a powerful hollywood speech, it's not like that. It's slowly ticking down, you're not yourself anymore, one of the flags is when they lose their etiquette.

Well he told Logan to f off in Days Of Future Past

You would expect that from James McAvoy, but not from Patrick Stewart.

it's supposed to represent his mental decline. Xavier's intelligent shown through his eloquent language

Exactly...I mean they mention the statue of 🗽 liberty fight. I thought days of future past fixed the WHOLE timeline but I guess not. It's okay though that Logan's "world" is different. I get confused sometimes because the dinner scene in the deleted scene, Charles mentioned that Logan killed jean (X 3) so is Logan in his own timeline lol .I thought I knew how it went but it's confusing.

I think Mangold took broad strokes when it came to canon. He made allusions to previous movies but didn't really care about fitting it into a strict timeline. And it was all the better for it

To be fair, "Logan" takes place in it's own timeline separate from the original (X1, X2, X3, The Wolverine) and Days Of Future Past alternate timeline ( Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix) which makes the whole movie non-canon to the already established universe. This movie was originally made to serve as a final and official send off to Hugh Jackman's version of Wolverine. To make things more clear, X-Men: First Class and certain elements of Days Of Future Past exist in both timelines. That's where the timeline splits in two. X-Men Origins: Wolverine is soft-canon in both timelines since we see glimpses of Wolverine's fight with his half brother when he recognizes Stryker in DoFP. Also the fact that the adamantium procedure takes place in both timelines. Deadpool (both movies) gets the same treatment of having his character exist in a different timeline. Overall, I wouldn't wrap my brain around it so much. It's easy to use the alternate timeline excuse to cover plot holes.

And where was Spider-Man when all of this went down? Such an egotistical hero he is. He never cared for anyone but Iron Man.

@@ProfessorKenneth i'd like to theorize that this was supposed to come out before DOFP, but then Fox was like "nah that happy ending shit has been done too many times, how bout we do a bitter ending for once?" without realizing that this might confuse some of the fans lol

one of the best superhero movies ever and my personal favourite superhero movie

@@arturocastroverde3349 This almost feels like Last of Us tbh

@@justsomejoyousj it pretty much is just x men version

Same, my favorite movie of all time. Watched it more than 20 times

@@michaelmartinez9042 true

He's not done playing Logan/Wolverine yet as he's going to reprise Wolverine in Deadpool 3 which is coming out next year.

And I accept the idea, lost control of his power because old age

​@@mrgoody69 he lost control of his power from the chemicals the US government put into food and water to kill off the X-gene in people so new mutants could not be born

@@mrgoody69 Yeah, I mean think about it. An incredibly powerful psychic who is explicitly stated to be capable of killing a person simply by concentrating on them with his powers, which is weaponized in multiple directions in X2 (though unsuccessfully, as both attempts are foiled). Now the man is over 90 years old, and suffering from a debilitating brain disease that causes seizures. That's NOT a good combination.

A really good red herring to those who read the comic. They all thought Logan was the one who killed the X-Men but it was Charles instead.

The movie version works better for the plot. It wouldn't make sense for this universe's Magneto to slaughter mutants like that, no matter how much he disagrees with Charles.

Captain America: Language.

​@@daniels4560forget Cap, Colossus also said that 😂

have a nice life bro

I'm sorry for your loss 🙏🏼

have a nice life bro

then that's Charles' problems then isn't it? maybe his methods are just way too pacifist for this mutant vs human problem. humans would rather weaponize mutants (even enslave, if possible, as shown in this movie) for their own gain rather than joining in a parley, and Charles knows this better than anyone else in the mutant community. yet he still chooses to "show them a better path". so either he is incredibly stubborn and stupid, or as Mystique puts it - loves to control other people.

@@vuxluongw magneto did nothing wrong

No, he just has dementia mate

He would actually just kill Charles rather than see him suffer. Then he'd kill Logan.

no spoilers YAAAA

Logan's clone killed him

@@Muhammad_Nuruddin he only died because his healing was nearly ineffective due to the adamantium poisoning his body. Logan in his usual state would’ve easily healed from being impaled like that.

@@Muhammad_NuruddinLogan in his prime would have completely destroyed his clone

@@canontheory literally no diffs the clone

Can you blame the dude?

@@princess7jasmine No blames. Btw he did not die in Dr Strange M.O.M.

jesus this line hits more true than ever

Superheroes powers have to be far more limited than in the comics, a group of god like mutants would lose the drama aspect immediately. It is implied in this movie that existing x-men are losing their abilities, apart from Charles neurological problems.

@@leonardobelli6221 Charles already transferred his consciousness, remember that the Phoenix destroyed his body in The Last Stand and he transferred his mind into his braindead twin's body.

@@tsukopara2054 but that's erased from the timeline after the events of days of future past, Charles has stayed in his original body.

For Charles yes, but Logan’s healing factor would’ve prevented him from being affected, it was the adamantium poisoning that was killing him

@@Ellerz03 no it was just old age that weakened his healing factor. The adamantium poisoning was always there, just it was always covered up.

@@superrooster18 Logan was 200 years old prior to this, had he of not had the adamantium he would’ve lived for eternity

@@Ellerz03 still no. His healing factor worsened probably due to the shortening of his telomeres meaning he would have eventually died of old age. The adamantium did shorten his life tho.

@@Ellerz03 Actually, I think it IS implied that the substance in the food is what had been weakening his healing factor. Things like Anesthetic and a lot of toxins don't affect him due to the healing factor, but something that weakens the healing factor itself might well get through.

I wonder if Eric was still alive by the time of Logan, he was right in the end

Facts

Same

X-Men 1.

I believe it was the hotel. After being followed the people who manufactured those mutant children, they were waiting for him at the "Statue of Liberty". A part of me thinks that Charles was able to see a little bit into the future of what was going to happen later in the movie, but Logan dismissed it as Charles just babbling nonsense about the events from the first movie. I haven't watched this movie in some time now. I'll have to rewatch it.

@@KRS2000 Charles was able to glean bits of information from telepathically speaking to Laura. He could see that she and the nurse were at the Liberty Motel.

@@RockLegend2A That makes sense. I'd watch it right now, but I'm binging the 90s cartoon 😁.

It is.

Logan's cynicism got too deep for a moment when he said that mutants could've been a mistake, and that's what led to it

@@Gemidori ahh I see. Thanks for the answer.

bit of both i think.

Since days of future past

this is like the distant future i think

At the end of future past, get dosent get sent back to the future, he goes to the 2000's which most likely led to this future instead

In the original timeline we have chronologically: X-Men First Class X-Men Origins Wolverine X-Men X2 X-Men The Last Stand The Wolverine X-Men DoFP (Here he travels back in time to 1973) New Timeline: X-Men First Class (This stays the same) X-Men DoFP (Events in 1973) X-Men Apocalypse X-Men Dark Phoenix Deadpool 1 & 2 The New Mutants X-Men DoFP (Logan awakens in the new future) Logan

@@williamochoa8492 but since Jean died in dark Phoenix how does she appear alive in dofp after logan wakes up that's what confuses me

@@CjCNFG99 Well, we can assume that years previous an event occurred where she returns. At least that's how I like to believe it.

I believe Beast made a comment about how the timelines would correct themselves after time travel. I guess if mutants weren’t wiped out by Sentinels in one timeline, they were wiped out by Alkali-Transigen in another. There was no way for mutants to survive, which is a horrifically bleak ending to the franchise.

Logan is a separate timeline to Days of Future Past because it references The Last Stand, X-Men Origins and The Wolverine. None of those movies happened in the new Days timeline. Logan takes place in a unique timeline where Days of Future Past happened, but it didn't alter the timeline enough to erase those above movies entirely.

In the sentinel world, everyone died, there was zero hope. While this one was bleak, there was some hope through the small mutants that they'd come back.

@@tsukopara2054 I guess you're right. We see/hear numerous subtle references, we even see a samurai sword hung up Logan's room when he dozes off. Charles mentions the "Statue Of Liberty" as homage paid to the original X-Men movie, he also mentions Logan's former 'career' as a cage fighter which was how Rogue met him in the first movie. In a deleted scene both Charles and Logan mention Jean's death in X3, one of the kids asks Logan if Sabretooth was real and he makes a slight reference about the latter being part of the Weapon X program, which even though he really wasn't, he was still part of the covert-op Team X. I can't recall exactly who said it but it was mentioned that 'Logan' takes place in it's own timeline separate from the rest of the movies. My best guess is that it takes place in a universe in which The Sentinel threat didn't exist thus being replaced by Alkali-Transigen. This universe so far includes the original trilogy, X-Men: First Class, X-Men Origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine, rendering any events partaking to Days Of Future Past non-existent/irrelevant.

I agree

@Gear5Soul You're wrong. It DID receive an Academy nomination for Best Adapted Screenplay. Well-deserved in my opinion.

@@24572 the movie definitely could’ve gotten more, wouldn’t you say? Hugh Jackman, Sir Patrick Stewart, and Daphne Keen gave the acting performances of their lives and not a single Oscar Nomination. 😤

Albino humans can have blue eyes

Nothing. The movie later revealed that it was Charles who accidentally killed all the other x-men in a seizure

Hi there, I'm gonna try my best and explain on where the movie takes place in what timeline, if of course it does. LOGAN takes place in a what if scenario timeline where all natural born mutants were wiped out by the Transgein corporation via a chemical that not only weakened the mutants who consumed the food the chemical was in which in turn made their powers not work properly but result in mutant births not being possible anymore

@@Dukesparrow1999 yeah, I mean is Logan after the happy ending of DOPF or another completely different timeline

@@user-tp6tu7tw3k It's set years after the happy ending of Days of Future Past.

You can also pretend it exists in his own little universe, as I do. Many of the X-Men movies are so broken.

​@@SpFlash1523você está completamente errado

well logan is a century older than charles and remember that logan has been to war for as long as he can remember ( that's what he said to the younger version of charles in DOFP timeline)