Logan Paul's Terrible Response... 

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One week Later: Logan: Mutahar, I’ve been a fan of your channel for a long time…until now ,cause you’ve lost your journalistic integrity

Logan Paul getting absolutely ratio'd by outing himself as an incompetent narcissist in an attempt to say he isn't a scammer is absolutely amazing, and definitely the first treat of 2023.

the best part of his "You should have contacted me not my manager" comment is that when Coffee posted proof that he already tried reaching out to Logan directly, his response was "I can't be expected to respond to every DM I get on every social!" Yeah Logan... THATS WHY YOU HAVE A MANAGER

This isn't the first time that January has been a terrible month for Logan.

I’m glad you addressed how ridiculously overblown Zachary’s “criminal” history is. I was trying to look up and verify it myself, but obviously I couldn’t get anywhere since they’ve been expunged. Which begs the question; how the ever-loving fcuk does Logan’s legal team have the investigative power to find a 20+ year old expunged record and a mugshot from who knows where, yet they apparently had no idea about Jake’s incredibly shady past nor Eddie’s obviously fabricated achievements by using a search engine once?

Very ironic when the guy who filmed the corpse of a suicide victim tries to call out Coffee for being morally questionable

Seems like Logan has made another severe lapse in his judgement, huh

I don't blame Stephen for not going on Logan Paul’s podcast. It is so clear that Logan can't comprehend the situation. To him, Stephen is a journalist in this context, not a fellow content creator. Who in his right mind would invite a journalist who is investigating your crimes to a collaboration to create content for you? It hurts my brain trying to wrap my head around that.

The worst part is that instead of giving zootoken holders their money back, he decides to spend that money in a lawyer in order to attack the person who spoke up for the victims

I’m only at 8:48, but my gosh, this just makes Logan even more sinister. The fact that he publicly showed *expunged* records (and exaggerated the contents) just to defame this man and poke holes in Coffee’s story is just evil. That right there makes me believe Logan isn’t just a bumbling idiot but is scheming and two-faced himself.

Muta dissecting a 7 minute video in 45 minutes is my favorite types of muta videos

i think its very kind of logan paul to assist coffeezilla in his efforts to expose logan paul

Poor Logan, he was just the leader of the entire operation. How could he possibly know anything at all about his own project and the people working on it? That's impossible!

"This is what I get for relying on..." That was some of the biggest credibility hit for me. Leaders own up. Own your mistakes, own your scams.

It’s hilarious how Logan Paul can articulately and concisely judge Coffeezilla’s supposed lack of due diligence while justifying his own actions by essentially saying “it’s not my fault I’m stupid”.

It’s funny how he tries to say Coffeezilla is a discredited and unserious wanna-be journalist yet Logan says he only learned through Coffeezilla that Ibanez was phony.

Coffeezilla going on Logan Paul's podcast would be like joining an Xbox party invite from the enemy team just to get yelled over by 5 different kids.

Another thing that got pointed out was the "illegal recording", the call started with "can I get comments on the zoo project" as well as introduction. That's straight up giving consent by giving comments after fully knowing who that person was.

I am amazed at how logan manages to simultaneously show his own ignorance/incompetence in not understanding what a manager's job is, while also throwing his manager under the bus for apparently not doing his job. This kind of stuff just writes itself

So Logan says Coffee has it all wrong, but then goes to show that everything Coffee investigated was true? But why?

7:28 Hearing this portion is actually crazy. No one I've seen covering this has mentioned the crimes he committed were from 20 years ago. Logan talks about how it feels to try and be a better person and make up for his mistakes while putting someone else's down in the same fucking breath: 41:58

"My team just screwed me over stealing millions from fans. Lets sue this reporter who is investigating me." Yeah, priorities Logan

The part I love the most, is where Logan shows the message from Dec, 24th, complaining, that coffeezilla hasn't reached out to him earlier, while you can clearly see, that the name of the chat is called "3rd request" 😂

Man I love all these investigative RU-vidrs I’m finding lately. Fascinating how the people they talk about keep getting away with it and the twists/turns these situations take. Also I like to imagine Logan watches these videos like “Why can’t these guys just let me scam people?!”

This situation is quite peculiar. A scammer tried to scam honest people with the help of other scammers. Then, those other scammers ended up scamming him. Coffee initiated the call so Texas law should take priority over California. Also, sometimes leaking calls for the sake of public interest can be used as a good defence. Logan tried to manipulate the market, got caught and now is trying to make coffee look bad. Unfortunately, his plan severely back-fired.

Imagine being his editor through this, sweatin buckets if I had to guess.😂

Watching this back with the context of Logan deleting this and dropping the lawsuit threats makes it even better

The dumbest part of all this, for me, is Logan trying to use Z's criminal record - which he shows on screen - as a reason why he can't be trusted. IIRC the charge was for armed robbery and obstructing the legal process - not small crimes, but not exactly huge either. Time was served, and... this happened in 2002. Then later in the video, Logan seems furious that his efforts to rehabilitate his own image are being inconvenienced by Coffee reporting on the things he's actually been doing, rather than the things he'd like people to notice. I don't know whether Z is still a criminal or not, and it doesn't actually matter - his testimonial is either accurate or it isn't, regardless of who he is. But I find the idea that past wrongdoings can and will turn any truth into lies... really ironic coming from the DinkDoink suicide forest man who, despite his insistence at the time, absolutely DOES expect to be forgiven, for everything, even for things that he's literally just done. OK, that's the second dumbest part: the actual dumbest part is Logan trying to claim that Coffee made him out to be the "supervillain" mastermind of the situation. Like, Logan would rather be falsely accused of being as the genius mastermind of a scam, than accept that he was rightly accused of being a relative bitplayer or an incompetent boob.

Logan seems to be another that falls into the "Coffee did great work till he came after me" cycle some of these people love to be in.

I love how Logan’s best defense can be summarized as “this isn’t a scam because we got scammed before we could scam anyone!”

Well apparently Logan can do the background check on the developer to throw him under the bus but not when he hired him to make his game

"I wasn't involved in a scam. I just partook in a series of actions to artificially inflate assets and services that I knew had little to no value and threw multiple transactions with other individuals marketed and sold said assets/services to the public through my own personal endorsement and influence while obsconding with ill gained profits after selling my shares of the operation at its zenith and left everyone else with worthless digital junk. See, that's totally not a scam." - Logan Paul

After conducting multiple financial investigations during my career, Muda is right. You can't say definitively without a deeper dive, but there sure is some next level shady stuff going on and associations in his wallets to Alameda certainly aren't going to help and he is going to bring it all to court on his own, what a treat. As for his dream team of employees, he needs to take it on the chin like a man and CEO if he hired these people. Then to finally say CryptoZoo is coming '23/'24 after it was supposed to already be here in '22 and went silent for over a year? Hello 2023...

Logan: Knowingly has someone who is a criminal(?) on their team. Also Logan: *How could this be my fault?*

All he had to do was acknowledge the concerns. And show some remorse for addressing it earlier. That’s like literally it.

So on the consent thing, since Coffee is in Texas and the recording device was presumably in Texas, Logan would have a huge problem trying to get the case heard in California. Generally the state where the recording device is located prevails.

The thing about the developer was that they weren't getting paid. This was what coffe focus on in his video not the developer's themselve. It doesn't help the fact that coffe said another developer was bought on to fix crytozoo after lunch but quit months later due to the fact that once again, they weren't getting paid.

I would be scared to go on the podcast with Logan in person, he looks so angry and he clearly doesn’t see how bad he’s looking.

So basically he tried to expose Coffeezilla and Zach for crimes and in doing so, committed crimes himself, including the very crime he accused Coffee of. Amazing.

Logan is totally in character. Narcissistic attitude, finger pointing, taking ZERO blame or accountability, and in fact possibly making himself looking even more incompetent (I don’t even know how that’s possible). Every RU-vidr unanimously disagrees with Logan and he’s going to protect his hill alone. Even George called him out on it and he just starts acting like such a baby.

No, it's all okay, guys. He just made a severe and continous lapse in his judgement.

I've watched 5-6 videos on this subject now, but this is the first one I've seen that actually adds to the discussion rather than just comments on it. Excellent work.

I love this take. I subscribed cause of it. But the thing that bothers me the most is very few people are pointing out the fact that Logan marketed this game as being the introduction to crypto for kids. And he tries to throw Emilio under the bus for having his kids invest in it.

I have watched quite a few people’s reactions to Logan’s response videos but this is by far the most thorough breakdown of everything and very well put together, AS USUAL!

It's almost like Logan specifically hired the Avengers of shady backgrounds just so he could throw them under the bus should the situation go awry.

I always love that you go the extra mile on these things. Even if everything he said was true, it was already an awful response, effectively just deflecting all guilt and trying to discredit Coffeezilla. But knowing that even the few snippets of “facts” he brought up are questionable at best, it makes everything even worse somehow.

I’ve made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgment, and I don’t expect to be forgiven. I’m simply here to apologize. What we came across that day in the woods was obviously unplanned. The reactions you saw on tape were raw; they were unfiltered. None of us knew how to react or how to feel. I should have never posted the video. I should have put the cameras down and stopped recording what we were going through. There's a lot of things I should have done differently, but I didn't. And for that, from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. I want to apologize to the Internet. I want to apologize to anyone who has seen the video. I want to apologize to anyone who has been affected or touched by mental illness or depression or suicide. But most importantly, I want to apologize to the victim and his family. For my fans who are defending my actions, please don't. I don’t deserve to be defended. The goal with my content is always to entertain; to push the boundaries, to be all-inclusive. In the world I live in, I share almost everything I do. The intent is never to be heartless, cruel, or malicious. Like I said-I made a huge mistake. I don’t expect to be forgiven, I’m just here to apologize. I'm ashamed of myself. I’m disappointed in myself. And I promise to be better. I will be better. Thank you.

Logan: "The blockchain doesn't lie!" You're right, Logan. It doesn't. And the blockchain is making you look very, very bad.

Damn, this feels like an appetizer video, until we get the main course video to Coffeezilla’s eventual response. Thanks for whetting my appetite for that muta!

Imagine being a lawyer who gets assigned to work for Logan and then realizing "yep, this do be my first case of the year"

He took his video down and apparently called Coffee to apologise. Mans digging himself a massive hole.

Funny that this is what finally made Logan mention the project after all of this time lol

So... not only did Logan showed off how he 'knows' of the criminals but he also violated Data Privacy Act too???

what's weird was when Logan shows the victim saying that's Emilio and was supposedly responsible to the crypto rug pulls. I couldn't even find that person's name at all and when I did a reverse google search the only thing that pops up was an article that doesn't even link to the person's name or any sort of social medias. So how did Logan manage to find this person's name and if he was supposedly responsible to two rug pulls?

As someone who has 7 felonies it sucks to see that people will still expose you on your past even though you have changed.

I laughed at "crypto Keemstar." Then I realized there's no way he wrote that or a single word he said in the whole apology video himself. The speech is clearly written by a lawyer and his pr team and the delivery makes that obvious (ironic given his claim to fame is acting). I wound not be surprised in the slightest if his team literally paid a writer to write jokes tailored specifically to the speech.

So what confuses me is that he is choosing to sue Coffeezilla rather than Eddie Ibanez and Cryptoking. They actually stole money and it's easy to prove. I watched a video a day or two ago of a lawyer reacting to this situation and he mentioned something very interesting: In that lawyer's experience, whenever he sees this he always assumes that those parties are 'still in bed' together.

Coffee wasn't looking to expose peoples backgrounds, he was getting testimony from people on the project while Logan refused to speak up. His story fits together while Logan still wants to sell the idea his game is coming out at some point with these loons running it.

coffee explicitly describes the moments when he is talking off record. this means he's paying attention to consent

did Logan sue those crooks he teamed up with, before he threatened to sue Coffee? No. That's all we need to know about him.

truly one of your best thumbnails. I'm glad muta has embraced being a meme

The whole response video is basically just Logan blaming everybody but himself for the scam and not taking responsibility for hiring literal criminals for the crypto scam he put out.

One thing on the wiretap/two party consent laws is that coffeezilla specifically states at the beginning of the call that he was "calling for comment" stating who he was and why he was calling. Jeff understood that he was talking to a journalist about a story, he needed to take consent away if he didn't want his responses published.

My theory? Logan specifically hired "bad actors" thinking that would somehow absolve him of the responsibility when shit hit the fan. Sounds almost dumb enough to match his line of thinking

I love how many things Logan indirectly or unintentionally throws Jeff under the bus for. Crappy project staffing, talking to people he shouldn't be, not communicating with his client, ect. If his manager Jeff is really such a screw-up that he single-handedly killed both the project and Logan's reputation, why is he still employed? And why is Logan going to such great lengths to paint all of Jeff's screw-ups as the fault of other people? Of course it's obvious that the real reason is they were both in on all of it.

I always appreciate your takes. I haven’t seen anyone else talk about the felony allegations against the dev as either doxxing or defamation, with no provable evidence publicly available.

I've given better explanations than Logan Paul as a kid for when I TOTALLY didn't eat an entire bag of shredded cheese at 3 AM while mid-fistful of cheddar.

9:45 Didn't Logan say he's suing Coffee for recording his manager without consent? Did Logan get Zach Kelling's consent before posting this sound clip in his video?

What I really like about your videos is how you start every new thought with the phrase "ladies and gentlemen". More class has never been a thing I've ever looked for on youtube, but apparently it's just one of those things I didn't know I wanted.

Ironically, Logan uses Coffees own research to try to besmirch him... we live in odd times

On the contacting Logan bit, if we reasonably assume that Coffee did contact the manager for comment/interview (it's almost like we have a phone call with the manager), that means one of two scenarios probably played out: either the manager DIDN'T tell Logan about how Coffee was trying to get in touch, or he DID and Logan decided to not address it one way or another. One adds another person to the "why tf did you hire this person" pile, the other is a great example of "ounce of prevention, pound of cure". Both go to show that Logan is not to be trusted.

"CryptoZoo is coming. I'll make damn sure of that" This aged so well😂😂

He put about as much effort into this "apology" as a little kid screaming he's sorry but also the sibling threw the first punch and he didn't do anything wrong.

I love how Coffeezilla isn't responding to all this nonsense. His videos still stand and say all he needs to.

Unironically if Logan came out with a revised copy pasta of "I've made a severe lapse in judgement" again, like we know the guy will do and say anything. At least doubling down would've at least been funny, but nope it seems Logan really wants to get down with Jake to see which is the stupider Paul

I won't say that Logan was preparing a heist, but he got the full GTA squad ready for it... There has to be a reason to get people with such "skills"

My father had the bad tendency to always end up working with shady characters who screwed him over in the end and I had to save him constantly. What I got from that was, if you’re not following a clean route, shady lingo is thrown around, everything sounds easy, the people you talk with avoid telling you exactly what kind of business they’re running, and lawyers are considered bad because “they’ll just complicate things”, just run. Unless you’re some financial or business genius yourself, and can identify paths others can’t, just follow the traditional way of doing business, especially if you don’t have money to waste.

The guy that had enough money to avoid a criminal charge for gross abuse of a c*rpse, lied to salvage his character? Crazy

Logan scamed his fans and now he is trying to hide in the shadows for it all to wash away he also tries to discredit coffeezilla when literally everything he said about him is a reflection of himself

it's interesting that he wasn't aware of the background of Eddy Ibanez before the investigation, while there were information available just by googling his name, but somehow, was aware of the developer's criminal record, which has been cleared, and records deleted from public access. He seems to be the only one who knew about this guy's past

Still love coming back and hearing the thud himself say the equivalent of, "Hey guys, Coffezilla is not a reliable reporter. He failed to mention that I hired a former criminal."

So someone who apprently comitted crimes in the early 2000s (almost 20 years ago) can not be trusted but a man who's had a history of being a scumbag and creating some pretty sus things in the past (along with his brother, some of those I'm probably getting mixed up in my head) is perfectly okay and trustworthy?

The thumbnail is basically Logan having to go through Muta as the final boss.

Logan: "Stephen did this video for views only." Also Logan: goes to the forest in Japan. Top tier hypocrisy.

"Honey! That weird computer guy is screaming at 5 am again!"

It’s been awhile since I’ve come back to the channel. You’re looking healthy and that you’ve been doing well. That makes me happy! Keep doing you Muta!

Not a lawyer here My understanding is that since coffee was in Texas, california's wiretapping law is irrelevant due to some sort of federal interstate law enforcement agreement.

Remember if anyone ever goes "this person was good but since they are targeting me they are noe a gossip and stupid." They are simply lying. They are just upset they are getting talked about.

Coffeezilla is from Texas and initiated the call in Texas. Thus one-party consent laws in Texas take hold over the two-party consent laws in California. Coffeezilla didn’t break any laws.

Logan Paul is dangerously misleading and reckless. This is not the first time. I hope he pays a heavy price for this idiotic scam/stunt.

I liked the bit where Logan called out the cryptozoo investor for getting his kids to invest in "crypto" as if he was some kind of monsterous child abuser when Logan literally marketed CryptoZoo as a fun game for kids xD

Outstanding video. I would expect that disclosing a legally expunged record may be a felony. The court offers the expungement to protect the citizen from exactly this kind of behavior.

The Video is GONE!

Muta put more effort into this video than Logan did for his entire response

3:28 literally dismissed by Steven, he has never been interested in law enforcement 😂

Asmongold made a hilarious analogy for cryptozoo team he called them the Suicide Squad of the crypto world and the "crypto king" is the Joker 😂😂

I am impressed by how deeply you went into looking into all of this, and it just made the entire apology video even worse for Logan. Like for with Zack, the only way for Logan to have known he was a criminal would have had to have been when he was hired and he gave his record to Logan. Meaning he knew the whole time, and only brought it up to then rub it into Coffee's face acting like he knew more. If these records were even real to begin with

I really like your longer videos where you do these deep dives. You’re very talented at this sort of content.

“Allegedly” is a pretty advanced word for Logan