Fantastic stems comparison video, James. So well put together - testing detail, editing, production. And very insightful and entertaining. Appreciate all that you do. Benjamin
Upgraded my Logic immediately after hearing some samples of how good it can be. Incredibly useful for isolating vocals for remixes without ever having to touch a 3rd party plugin or resources. This was a great comparison, amazing and even delighted still that it was free for existing users!
Sounds pretty awesome. Still hear some artifacts but having that dense of a mix, of course there will be something. Logic is becoming a powerhouse Great vid
I never expect stem separation to be completely void of artifacts-there's only so much software can do when some information is just gone forever, but if Logic's stem splitter is already so good with a dense metal mix, I feel like it can easily take on more mainstream genres.
I think I’m gonna go to Logic again. I just hope they just improve his Stems exporting thing because is still very archaic they way to render stems and render Stems with the bus and send FXs processing in it.
Thanks a lot ! short time ago I installed RX11 Demo on my MBA M1 but I think I do not need to open it or upgrade from RX10 and have a far more easy job with Logic! The past years it was a bit complicated to export audiofiles from Logic to RX, make the split, export the stems to a folder (choose format and resolution and give file names) and import them to Logic, and and and.
Did they finally optimize Logic Pro 11 for their latest M chip computers? I know you said in previous videos how Logic wasn’t even using all the cores in the M3
I would quite literally never use that in a mastering scenario. When A/B’ing the full mix you can audibly hear phasing (particularly in the high end) and are actively sacrificing audio fidelity for the sake of minor individual elements. Unless something is categorically unsalvageable, or returning to the mix isn’t an option. There is honestly 0% chance of me ever using that tool in a mastering setting. Maybe in future revisions, where it nulls, but as is? Absolutely no chance, it’s quite literally the opposite of mastering to do so. I think it’s a great tool for referencing, remixing and a plethora of other things… But mastering? Absolutely not.
It depends on what kind of mix you are mastering. I mostly master in the metal genres and often times bands want a master that is distorted and squashed to the hell and back. When it comes to metal mixing and mastering, we are actively sacrificing a lot of things throughout the entire process, from transients and low end information to clarity and dynamics, in order to achieve an aggressive sound. Ozone 11's Stem Focus is not nearly as good as Logic's Stem Splitter and I've found it to be incredibly useful for getting the mix where it needs to be.
@@JamesZhan I fully disagree with you mate, I’m sorry. In a mixing setting, anything goes I guess. But in mastering, using a tool like this would go against the literal meaning of the word. It’s not subtle, far from it; even in the best example you give… The fidelity loss is greater than the reward. Using tools like what you demonstrate in this video is just asking for a revision… If you’re audibly making a track worse, then you are quite literally, not ‘mastering’ (as a rule of thumb). This is an absolute last resort type of tool, and even then I’d be skeptical (as is). The genre is irrelevant here, you are quite literally sacrificing audio fidelity, which goes against what mastering even is. There are a plethora of things one should do before using a tool like this (asking for a mix revision etc)… Impressive? Sure… Does it have uses? Yes… But in mastering? Absolutely not. It quite literally goes against the definition of the word/job (as it is right now anyway). Even if a band wanted a -2LUFS super compressed master, there’s ways of doing that without making it sound like a phasy mess.
rx11 would’ve took the W if you would’ve played with the sensitivity knob you got it on default so it’s not really tailored to how it needs to be to sound great
