Loki ENDING EXPLAINED - What Season 2 Means for AVENGERS: Kang Dynasty & SECRET WARS! 

Finding this channel with a Wandavision episode breakdown was one of the best finds of my life!

Nobody is talking about how the TVA handbook volume 2 color was inverted from the V1 orange version.

One key thing, The kang in Ant man Has a scar on his face. But he who remains doesn't. So they can't be the same Kang if He Who ramains is the future version.

Your prediction is nice.. but u missed something... the timeline branches shown in quantamania is older than loki season 2 finale.. So quantamania is happened before season 2 finale., that means marvel is planning to change the track again... no more auroborous... we can say marvel is also confused at this stage, what to serve.. 😂😂 lets see what happens... I just want to see marvel's ending movie before I die.... 😅

I honestly think this is the one, also how cool would it be if He who remains's temp pad was a slice of the previous loki's horn?

Thank god cuz marvel was so worried about you being disinterested.

I agree, I didn't get swept off my feet like the first one but I thought it was good.

@@jcarry5214i honestly think no second season or second part of something will ever sweep someone off their feet like the first ones do

@@BlindMIW they are extremely worried about losing their audience right now after putting out so many stinkers recently.

@@cdde854 Usually not, no, of course. But galaxy-ripping turds are common, and just plain subpar is the absolute norm now.

He'd be proud of his little brother, I imagine.

Loki : "I've become the god of stories now" Thor : "Great, I have a daughter" Loki : "You what?!?" Probably..

Sadly that timeline has played itself out. The moment Loki became a divergent version, he ceased to be Thor's brother in a sense. The distance between them has grown to such a point that to Loki, he's not that person anymore. I doubt Loki will ever reveal what he's done, or is doing to Thor - but Thor may come to understand it another way. Basically Loki is controlling these timelines, which likely means he's created a doppleganger within them that has the power to take it over. The gold we see surfacing is likely power he's siphoning from this, "glorious purpose" playing out. So what is that? He's very likely returned to being a world-destroying conqueror of worlds. He enslaves these worlds, wrings from them glorious purpose (which is power resulting from him taking that timeline over) and then siphoning that power "up" to the TVA Loki. He does this to create a structure, like the loom, in which all divergent timelines can weave themselves into. These timeline he likely becomes Thanos, Sorceror Supreme and similar things - so much so that these timelines are likely ruined. They become subservient to the rest and within an infinite system, the worlds he turns into vines become those that need to be culled. Kang is still out there as well, which is like a blight on the tree - it needs to be strong enough to withstand Kang's Time War. 616 was mentioned that Kang had already landed there (Quantumania) so they're the front line. For Thor to meet Loki at this point he'd either need to ally with Kang, and the right Kang, and then even think to know that a variant Loki might to do this. The most likely way for Thor to meet this TVA Loki would be if he, naturally, found his way there - to the end of time and through the TVA, then he'd have to spend centuries learning how to master the TVA's tech and resulting Kang's blessing to meet him (or weaponized to destroy Loki). This would be bad - but no matter how it happens, the likelihood that 616 Thor meets 616-variant Loki is very very low. Not impossible, statistics get weird with time travel, but I don't see any way that Thor should meet this Loki... except maybe to free him. If Loki is finally removed from his god-position, it will likely be Thor to do it - or to replace him... but it can't just go back, this Loki would barely remember Thor in a sense after centuries and then millenia's of timelines merging into his consciousness. So... Loki's more lost than it seems. Meanwhile... it's much more likely that a side character informs Thor of the truth... and that he likely will never see "this" Loki again. Though variant-loki's I think will become normal, probably not even played by Hiddleston... people like Sylvie and such. Basically agents of Chaos feeding "up" power to God Loki who know timelines need to be pruned - not as wanton as Kang's sacred timeline, but instead, using the knowledge gained from all that to weave it like a tapestry. Build on top of God Loki's basic structure - like vines supporting a tree from falling. It won't be pretty, in many timelines "Loki's" will need to win and guide that timeline to where it needs to go, basically like power generator worlds. They'll have to choose when, where, and why that happens - which is where Mobius will become important. If anyone's going to meet Thor I think it'll be Mobius, because in the end, 616 Thor is unstoppable... and Mobius won't be able to resist forever telling Loki's brother what he's doing and "why" he keeps having to fight variant Loki's from absorbing 616 into his vine pattern. Loki won't be able to spare 616 (probably isn't even looking at them, as picking at random is brutal but fair)... But I think Thor will become aware that the barriers to Loki are far too great. He's just not capable of understanding this magical and scientific nuance... or doing this job. Thor's too righteous to "prune" like this, he's not suited for him... and he might find it distasteful, knowing Loki's killing worlds for the greater good. That's not his style. It's somewhat better that maybe Thor doesn't know, because this is far, far too calculated for him to fix. But maybe if God Loki dies down the line, Thor will know then the truth. ... and I think Loki mourns, in a way, himself. He has a kinship with the 616 sacred timeline version, that's "his" thor and "his" life. It was everything he would've done, minus 1 crucial detail that turned him into a variant in the first place. But that 1 detail changes it all. Chaos is what it is. ... but sooner or later, Thor will know.

​@@BigMac8000jfc nobody's reading all of that

⁠​⁠@@BigMac8000sorry but your wrong, he was talking to mobius about his brother Thor when they saw the 3 carved statues of Thor, Odin, and baldur before the end of season 2. Besides Loki was already hundreds of years old when he first brought the battle to New York so he would still remember his brother that he spent so much of his life with. He literally just took the throne, the multiversal war is literally on the brink in the horizon and you think lokis gonna sit there for eons and eons? No Loki will be booted out of the citadel at the end of time when the multiverse blows up at the end of Kang dynasty and goes into secret war. Loki won’t have a throne since there won’t be multiple timelines just the one then battleworld. That’s when we will see Loki and Thor reunite.

He’s never gotten any awards for the role *OR* has ever featured in the opening Marvel title sequence. ☹️

@@ZyliceLiddell he read the assignment and killed it every moment on film, heard that's one reason why some actors don't want to act with him

Not really. What if it's the "original" shape. Remember He who remains said "around and around and around we go" what if it's just like na chicken and the egg analogy, wherein, there's really no beginning or end. There was a time that there was no Loom or TVA. Who controls time/multiverse then? What if, this was just part of the cycle? After the war of Kang's variants, once only one remains. That variant will take the power from Loki, and because he's technically only a human. He can't control the timelines the same way as Loki. So he will build the loom and TVA(again). It is basically an eternal recurrence of the same.

​@kitnoman reincarnation baby 😉😈

Until the tree becomes a Torus sphere...

@@kitnoman The egg came first. That's how evolution works. Not a very good analogy. :P

he changed nothing. you were not paying attention at all. He literally did what He Who Remains wanted him to do. You were asleep during the final episode clearly. He is in the time loop kang wanted.

Yea haha his videos get me more hype than actual MCU products

Hopefully MCU writers are taking notes.

Well it depend on the mcu writer some movie/drama like she hulk , hawk and black panther (new one) want to shame all men and making them weak thus getting a bad rep for being a jackass (they said it themselves they hate men). Here in Loki we can also see strong women with weak men (betrayer, useless, no responsibility) being under their rules (all of them) yet flourish because the actor did a great job especially Tom . The positive is bigger than the negative thus making the show ended in a great way possible.

yeah, and almost always so far from the truth

i think some MCU` writers can def see this and "stole" the idea😂😂

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you will be embarrassed when literally that is not what will happen. The ego and narcissism on you, Terak, is astounding.

If marvel wants to introduce doom, I would add something different to your theory. in kang dynasty we would see the change of loki to kang and so on and so on, however in an unexpected turn dr doom would take the throne killing both Loki and all kang variants except one who is the one to become he who remains. This sets up secret wars: In this movie the remaining avengers led by Spiderman, and allied with the he who remains variant would try to take down doom, however doom already knows about this variant and the threat it poses to his multiversal rule and killing it. Through the movie, thor would go through his own journey and becoming the profecized rune king, a prophecy that should appear in Thor 5 so he would defeat doom and take lokis throne and thor wanting to honor his brothers sacrifice and legacy would become he who remains. In a last instance we find out that he who remains managed to revive loki as a failsafe or split loki timeline in 2, one being killed by doom and one surviving. This loki would have remnant of the powers he had as he who remains, being Loki and thor the ones to stand against doom with the help of the avengers. The avengers would fight doombots which posses one of the powers of infinity (a doombot would only posses one infinity stone ability except sould since they have no soul). Secret Wars would end with Loki and Thor becoming those who remains keeping each other company as guardians of the multiverse, reviving the multiverse again together. That would end thor and lokis story since they would remain at the end of time. The birth of the multiverse (in which victor von doom would never become dr doom in any universe) would look like the sun shining on thor and loki through the horizon making full circle with infinity war: Thor: You once told me the sun would shine on us again Loki: I never did Thor: There was a time you did Loki: well this is no sun, but it is close enough. Are you sure you want to stay with me? Thor: Loki, you sacrificed enough to save everyone, let me sacrifice everything if it would mean spending the rest of existence with my brother

“Around and around we go” hits different now

@@thebatman7347 lol. Thor 4 was an attempt and goal is to get rid of all white men as heroes in MCU. Doc Strange will be eliminated soon and parker replaced by a nonwhite. Spidey . Hulk is retired and wont be shown again, same for iron man( iron heart now replaces him, shehulk for hulk, hawkeye is now a teen girl, black widow replaced by her sister, captain marvel is the black one we see in new universe of cap marvel 2, captain america is black now and bucky will die. Thor will be offed and made unnecessary. Thor is replaced by the little girl of Gor.

That's exactly right! Instead of everything getting destroyed by the time lines, he's holding them together.

Would be a nice redemption point seeing as the last time they teamed up they lost, and Loki died

same concerns here

Forcing those Disney plus streams smh

He’s presented something of a quagmire here. But it’s all conjecture at this point still.

But there is no chance we would forget Loki or TVA because they are playing key roles in multiversal saga and they are closely connected to kang Even if they would not appear visually I do not think there is a chance of memory loss or lack of interest.

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@@CaptainSalazar69 it was a joke but nice reach

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The pet avengers!!!!!! They have lucky already, and goose,

That would be a great way to set up future X-Men content.

I wish they use Apocalypse storyline in this. But I doubt it by way Apocalypse is NOT first Mutant. Selene who 17,0000 years old isn't either.

makes me think about the end with He who remains sidepiece. Pyramids

​@sophiawilson8696 The mutant species is as old as human kind, as are the Inhumans and Eternals. When the Celestial First Host came to Earth, they created mutants, eternals, and imhumans from baseline *primitive* human DNA. Avengers 10K BC series had a Mutant.

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You don’t have a girlfriend

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Plot Hole: Guy has no girlfriend.

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Victor timely is from the sacred timeline. The only reason there was a branch was because ravonna gave him the tva handbook

​@@Yolo_Soloyeah but then what was the plan with Victor Timely? From what I remember HWR ordered to give him this book. Was it so Rennslayer could end up in the Void possibly helping younger version of HWR? Or sth else?

She's a beautiful villain

Yeah I’m hoping it wasn’t Alioth we saw at the end. I don’t think it was, we didn’t explicitly see her die so let’s hope she comes back.

@@jontaii152 Any Kang pruned by the TVA 2.0 are going to be there with her. I hope we see a follow up show about the TVA, maybe called "Mobius" or something to continue this story. I can see "Loki" being over, because it focused on his story, but the TVA story should absolutely continue in another project.

​@@OstietheGnomeBut what about a show called "Morbius"??

@@detroitdiezel7856 That'd be Morbin' Awesome!

Except they're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.

True, but it may also be a red herring. He'd easily be able to heal scars if he can control time. Great way to disguise your origin too. This Kang may be He Who Remains thousands, and thousands, and thousands of years ago. They mention in Loki 616 already encountered "a" kang, but who knows which one wins the multiversal war. No telling. Could be any of them, it could easily be the 1938 version who lives this far and this long. ... but given the issues with the actor, they're probably going to audible on that (wisely so).

Who says there will be a Kang Dynasty!

His theory in this video is way off though

I also think that Loki taking the throne from he who remains is what caused the council to be formed. The void is full of Kangs and their tech now that the TVA only prunes kang variants instead of whole timelines.

They already showed us the old avengers tower with Kang’s name on it. They’ve also showed us the pyramid and sphinx that belong Rama, tut

It obviously is/was because as Ravonna said in season 1, episode 1 "What the Avengers did was supposed to happen"

Except they're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.

It was pretty good💯

I try not to think

One of the best MCU stories

Loved it, Loki finally having a glorious purpose

The Shakespearean Tragedy of Laufeyson

So they are removing kang??wth

@@martinsaji3671 there's a lot of talk about removing the character completely because of Johnathan Majors legal troubles

@@yoyomayne if he showed up in this, i believe his legal troubles are solved

@@splashnskillz37 they are far from solved, he still has to go to trial

All that has been done with Kang so far can be left as is: He was a villain in Antman who was killed, and HWR in Loki who crafted his own freedom from a time loop and now no longer exists. And so there's no need for anymore Kang stories.

That means a lot, thank you. We're excited about getting to dive deep in the next few weeks while we're between shows!

I guess this would make Alioth, Jormungandr.... Instead of physically in an Oraboros like in myth it is in a time based one and if released from the Kang/Loki cycle it will consume everything (maybe it is this very cycle that tamed it ). As it is Loki's son in mythology this fits so well.

Interesting! However man says he from 31 century.

Which is order or chaos!

That makes me want a Loki cameo in the new Deadpool and he’s just watching all the multiverses like a watcher cameo idk could be fun

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That will never happen

You mean atlas not god of stories

@@ked49 616 Loki was reborn as the god of stories in the comics and his time slipping abilities are very similar but obviously a different MCU spin on his origin.

If you are a true marvel fan you will watch everything that links in and too understand it all. It's good this way and gives alot more detail, people can still come watch purely to see there favourite hero's together but the way they do it is for the marvel fans. They'll never make it simpler which is good

U yapping lil bro

Maybe Loki can keep his variants in check while he is on the throne allowing free will. It's when Kang is on the throne that they are a problem because Kang is trying to make sure the right Loki comes back for the cycle he created. Just a thought I'm still working on. 😅

the lokis were only a problem because they didn’t obey the sacred timeline. kang variants are a threat because they learn about the multiverse. our lokis job is only to stop the people who would be a threat to the free will of others, which isn’t loki. TLDR; the only people who are a problem now are kang variants

They should have brought like 5 major villains together to fight the Avengers!

I hope not, I dig Jonathan majors’ range, and would love to see how he performs if given the time.

They’re switching to Doom. Where Loki is will be where the final battle will be

They're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.

Think you are giving him far too little credit.