Loki Finale Review 

Holy... WHAT?! Loki's finale stuck the landing *WAY* better than any of the other MCU shows. That ending was astonishingly good.

I disagree with your gripe about the finale John, Loki had "centuries" in between to figure things out. And Loki is a god.

Richard E Grant's Loki showed that all the Loki's were far more powerful than they ever imagined

Did John miss the part where Loki literally spend hundreds if not thousands of years harnessing that power and perfecting it.

Kris gets it... as usual. Especially with Tom Hiddleston being one of the writer, it was pure theatre. Not only did his character grow, so did his powers, not in areas of combat or mischief, but on a metaphysical level. And in the end, his selfless sacrifice ascended him to sometihng greater than he could have ever been. Frigga taught him well.

I freaking loved this finale. When we think about the character of Loki and his entire journey through the entire MCU, his journey has so much tragedy. It was beautiful. Loki accomplished what he always wanted but at the ultimate cost. Such excellent writing in my opinion.

I have never understood Campea's hate for the Loki show. Season 1 was great too!

Loki is hands down the best Disney plus marvel show.

When he was willing to sacrifice for others, Loki became worthy of a greater power. Just like Thor in his first movie.

When Loki stopped time in front of HWR and asked “and what makes you think this is the first time we’ve had this conversation” that was the clue that he was capable of more than we knew at the time. He kinda knew what he would have to do but he was exhausting every possibility so he could live with his friends. He wanted to win, but that’s not what Lokis do.

This is the same guy who said he loved the Ms. Marvel show. You can't make this up. John says "Never did they imply he had this power in the MCU", maybe because he discovered this after two whole seasons of a show centered around him. Also, he keeps talking about Loki going up against Thanos when this Loki isn't that same Loki, this Loki is from 2012 Avengers when the Avengers went back in time to collect infinity stones during Endgame.

He didn't die in Thor 2. That was a trick.

I disagree on John's point the finale was not earned. The nuggets were in place all along. Seasons 1 and 2 need to be seen as a whole. Loki's whole redemption arc follows through it. Sylvie explained to Loki in Season 1 he has power that he doesn't even realize. Together they found the end of time. That's pretty powerful. Through this season, he learned how to become a master of time. In this last episode, after literally centuries of learning, pain, and failure, he learned how to control his power. He Who Remains needed his little gadget to pause Sylvie. Loki learned to do it with a flick of a finger. After centuries of sacrifice. At the end, his last lesson was understanding self-sacrifice. That was the last thing he needed to complete his redemption. This whole series was beautiful. Disney Plus shows have been mediocre, but Loki stands out as the MCU's best. There was no massive CGI fight against a "boss". It was one man man finally coming to terms with his destiny. As someone who, the last two years, has been going through his own redemption arc, I found this show touching and inspiring. The tighter I grip on the things I want, the quicker I squeeze them out of my hand. There is an allegory here for me that I found that I need to stop surviving and start living. I never thought I would say this about anything MCU, but the Loki series made me think about a lot of things and my own life. There is a lot to unpack and this show needs repeated viewings to unpack them. I was in tears at the end when Mobius was outside his home, saying he just wanted time. I applaud the show runners, the actors, the writers, the directors, and all involved in a truly engaging, original, and creative series. Loki is a 10 out of 10 for me because very few shows make me as contemplative as Loki did. I doubt anyone at Marvel will ever read this, but THIS is how you do the MCU. THIS is how you do a Disney Plus show. THIS is how you engage us. THIS is where your creative energy, originality, and brilliance shine. Make us feel. Make us think. We don't need massive boss fights. We don't need crazy CGI. We want to see ourselves in a character that we love. I applaud the team on this show, the actors, the writers, the dialogue, every effort in this production. I want them to know I was moved by this series, and there are very few things in media that move me.

John, have to disagree about his new powers. Did you not watch the middle of the episode where he spent centuries learning how everything worked? Aaand he fought Silvie thousands of times to save He Who Remains, before he figured out how to stop time. Also he became the God of Stories, which meant he could re-write the story into whatever he wanted. Maybe if they had more than 6 episodes, this could have been fully fleshed out, but I felt like it was still fully explained in the episode.

Lest we forget, Thor took on a dying star. Maybe after 1000s of years of time slipping Loki learned how to take on the power of the multiverse.

His older Variant in the void showed how powerful he is and can be

Bro he didn’t just get the powers out of nowhere, he spent centuries mastering time and relived countless moments to witness every possible outcome. He eventually learns how to exist out of time like He who remains. So essentially he gained all of the knowledge and power of He Who Remains on top of all of the powers that he already had by being a god.

The Loki we saw in in main MCU and in the first season was not the Loki we saw in Loki S02 Finale. The Loki that became the God of Stories was like centuries old. He had consumed centuries worth of new knowledge. So he learned new things. It is important to note that this version of Loki possesses time-slipping powers that were not present in the Loki who died in Infinity War. This Loki is not the same as the one who was previously stabbed or choked, as that Loki perished in Infinity War. Additionally, this Loki has not experienced the events that took place after the Battle of New York, as he diverged from that timeline.

what is he even talking about? The Loki that was defeated by Thanos, isn't the same Loki that is in the Loki show. It's a variant, and so, we don't have any way that his power levels could even be shown.

Oh John, did you miss out on the flash screen that mentions Centuries later??? One could imagine that in all that time he could’ve realized his power and ability. Especially after everything he had to repeat. Btw, I’m pretty sure in Thor The Dark World, Loki getting stabbed was an illusion. This was one of your more messy takes.

You talk about how he got all this power out of "no where", did you miss the "centuries" time jump? His power had time to grow, and as far as we know he spent that time learning. I can see it.

@JohnCampea I believe you are missing a key creative point of the story tht Loki spent CENTURIES learning Quantum Physics just to have the temporal loom piece & then possibly another 1000 years or more to be successful just to see he had to go back even farther just to fight Sylvie a 1000 times… it’s a creative jump the writer & director hope the audience would come to

I feel like I watched a different show to John. Loki was outside of time and learned to jump though and control time. So by the end he is clearly evolved and a different power level to anywhere else in the MCU. It wasn’t explained in an explicit way but much like John said he apparently likes , it was shown and you could figure it out

He leveled up his power when he finally started acting and fighting for the “who” instead of what’s, when’s, and where’s”. That line in episode 5 tells us that unlocking that emotion unlocked the ALL his powers as a god he never knew he had. including touching and healing timelines, controlling time slipping, and powers the infinity stones had that were already in him, but greed and power blocked it.

DIDNT stick the landing!? are you serious? never disagreed with you this much before.

Loki had centuries to increase his power. He learned all about it (timelines/physics/multiverses). He didn't die in Thor 2, Time slipping gave him more powers as well. Loki's power grew from the day he met Sylvie & his variants & they taught him more about enchanting and mind control etc. HWR says he is surprised Loki hasn't got more control of his powers when they start to talk, and Loki had fooled him that bit was their 1st time having that chat. He is able to battle Thor, who could survive concentrated Neutron star energy in the vacuum of space. I always actually assumed it was the TVA keeping him from using his powers, that that was the only thing making that radiation (1st time) a danger to him. He can stop time and always change his clothes, stopping himself from dying, which is well within his power set. He is, possibly, twice as old, if not more than Infinity War Loki, and they really hinted at it so many times.

The older Loki from Season 1 Episode 5. He exhibited an unprecedented amount of power. That Episode rang in my mind during the Season 2 finale. Loki needed a reason to be a God. The Why.

I’m guessing John skipped over the part where they did that gag reel of “centuries later” and Loki being smarter than OB and Timely….

Technically this isn’t our Loki, so you can’t really complain that MCU Loki never did XYZ before. He’s the ultimate variant, the Loki that remains.

I feel like the final images of Loki holding the strands together is a metaphor for him endlessly going through time and making sure each timeline goes in the right direction. It is "another level" of perception (like a tesseract). The image of Loki on the throne is metaphorical, not physical.

Lol! Leave it to John to find the most nitpicky things to complain about on a phenomenal season and finale! I swear all he does now is go out of his way to be negative!

I want the whole creative team who was involved this season to write both Kang Dynasty & Secret Wars.

At the beginning of this season they establish Loki is not the same due to his time glitching. This is what brings him to develop the time slipping, which is basically what enables him to develop his knowledge and power over time by the end.

Loki's sister, Hela, is the Goddess of Death. Yes, Loki has the power to maintain the Tree of Life.

8:26 John obviously has selective memory and has no idea what he is talking about. Loki did not die in Thor: The Dark World. In fact, he was sitting on the throne at the end masquerading as Odin to refresh your memory. 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️

Yeah you’re absolutely missing the point and with a take like this, it just seems like you aren’t paying attention while watching this show…..

John I think you missed the point where it was his journey that made him all powerful. On learning to control the time slipping (through his bond with his friends etc), he also masters science with the time equivalent of centuries in the TVA. Time slipped back to the fight between Sylvia and He Who Remains, their conversation during the time freeze moment shows Loki has become as powerful as him, he finds a replacement of sort, someone that finally put the pieces together if he’s willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. It was chess. It’s a masterful finale. The series as a whole is one of the best work marvel has put out.

Loki faked his death in Thor 2 lol wtf are we talking about

Classic Loki by Richard E Grant holding back Alioth in the first season, surprised Loki and showed him he could become more powerful than he ever knew. Odin asking Thor are you the God of Hammers or the God of Thunder taught Thor his power came from within and these Gods lived thousands of years and still have a lot to learn about themselves. So Loki's power was hinted at.

“I think we’re stronger than we realise”. S1. It was his experiences and alliances through both seasons that unlocked his powers. Like Thor in Ragnorok. Gods level up all the time in comics and movies (or Dragonball lol). Felt like a common motif to me…

For the record Loki did not die in Thor 2 by the "Stabby Stabby" that was literally a fackout death he did to fool Thor, it was shown in thay very movie. Also, Loki in the end of season 2 has been shown to have the power to STOP TIME AND MOVE IT FORWARD AND BACKWARD!!

Did you miss "Centuries Later" cue card or when HWR said "let's try few more thousand times and you learn controlling time" or when Loki paused Sylvie in between? John you are off the game bruh!

Season 1 and 2 tell a very cohesive story for Loki

blud is just crying because it dethroned wandavision as the best mcu d+ show.

A black screen with the text "CENTURIES LATER" but **whoosh** That right there should literally be enough to explain the level of his new powers. I've read so many forums with so many questions and complaints, but John's the first one who I came across that questioned how Loki got so powerful "out of nowhere" because "stabby stab" 🙄

I never seen a comment section filled with so many ppl who couldn’t disagreed more with your review! 😂

john clearly didnt understand what occurred

14:32 They quite literally said that Loki was a lot more powerful than he realized, in season 1. During the show, Loki has had to stop relying on blades - which "Classic Loki" said was something that stunted Loki's magical power. Yeah, it's a retcon because they weakened him compared to the comics, but it's not actually a plot hole. It's a retcon that makes some sense.

Don't forget Loki lived centuries, possibly millennia, in this episode... constantly pushing himself to his limits in every way possible. Hundreds of years learning physics. Thousands of trial and errors. Untold rounds of conversation with he who remains. It's like how Doctor Strange got a boost from what we saw in his first movie to what we saw in Infinity Wars after however many years he spend coming to bargain. Loki started exponentially stronger, then pushed himself a lot harder for a lot longer in a universe where magic bends to will.

The best finale they’ve ever done.

Honestly, John, do you ever try to challenge or look past your own thoughts/opinions and try to seek to understand?

they did hint at this, the minute he started to control the time slipping and also back when they controlled alioth

1) Loki existed out of time 2) He spent 100 years learning quantum physics 3) He learned to control time 4) If loom can control timeline. then, the maker of loom and those that knows how loom work probably can?

Dude Loki learned how to time slip at the end of episode 5. Why is it hard to understand that he can control time and become burdened with glorious purpose at the end?

Loki relalizes the scope of his power and mentions Silvie about it, after he sees Richard E. Grant's classical version of Loki confronts Alioth in Season 1

Hey, John, it's fiction, not science. 😀

John might have watched the show, but I don’t think he payed attention… jfc

No they stuck the landing, i wasnt buying it being the best MCU all that before talk....Now with this whole season. Yes its the best MCU show.

John....before he even showed the power of holding the multiverse in his hands...he not only became the science genius but also learnt to control the time with just a flick of his finger!!! He had centuries to train and evolve. Of course he got this powerful. It was inevitable

It feels like John not actually pay attention to the final episode It was entirely him spending centuries honing these new abilities he got from time slipping

Previous physical strength has nothing to do with the ability to breath life into the time lines . He learnt what he needed during his journey trying to fix the time line . It’s not that hard to believe. The series was amazing . Stunningly beautiful and best character arch by far for any character marvel has ever done ! I’m just sad there’s not more

He spent a century to learn, so not that unreasonable. Think he forgot about that...

So thor saying asgardans get stronger with age loki gains time powers then use his centerys power boost on top of his new found/mastered time lord powers john this audience understood it no you didnt

The two directors aaron moorhead and justin benson should make Secret Wars.

People are forgetting the most important thing about loki. He is a God.

You're analysis is extremely flawed 🤦🏾‍♂️

The feeling I got from it is he didn't ever realize he had it in him. When he discovered his purpose, he discovered his power.

The visual of Yggdrasil was stunning.

Previous marvel writers had no imagination or knowledge of the power of the norse gods. Finnaly we have writers who understand what some of the characters are capable of

You level up when you have Centuries… as a God…and given ALL the powers of the Infinity Stones.

Thor had told loki that he could be more than just the god of mischief. Odin had said they were both born to rule. Maybe loki was always meant to have this power, but could never realize it until he gave up his selfish ambition?

Finale is Solid

I respect your opinion but I 100% disagree.

The finale was solid. It was single handedly one of the best finales of the MCU Disney+ shows

Wanda had the better arc? You can't be serious John! She literally went crazy and killed herself. Loki was developed through 12 years of MCU and saw him grow a lot. Also, I don't think it's the last we see of Loki. I respect your opinion but totally disagree.

John just missed it, the detail was small yet there. In episode 6 when Loki "masters" timeslipping he then studies for CENTURIES to repeatedly learn about fixing the Temporal Loom. That was the key. He did what many God tier Asgardians do, he became more powerful with age. Thus, unlocking the physical power, knowledge, and magical upgrades needed to pull off the feat at the end.

I’m sorry but that whole sequence of Loki just saying again, and again, with the music was spot on and then you realize he has to stop silvy

How I interpreted the new powers thing is that he always had the strength and power but was using it the wrong way so he wasn’t living up to his potential. It took this major shift to unlock what he already had.

I think the hint in the first season of a greater power level was the old Loki's conjuring the whole Asgard and the main Loki saying that they're stronger than they realize

I'll just say one little thing. Loki did not die in Thor 2. And I can't believe I have to point that out.

I tapped out as soon as Campea said that he didn't think it stuck the landing. He's out of his mind. I don't even want to hear whatever gripe he has against the best MCU project to ever come out. I didn't even like Loki or the show, but the final episode made Loki and the show the best thing the MCU has ever done.

Loki has a far better character arc than Wanda, don't kid yourself. The show itself is way better written and acted as well. Also in regard to how Loki became all powerful, you failed to realized that the show did tell us that ever since Loki gain the ability to time slip thousands of years has past for Loki. He spent centuries just learning how the TVA worked. He probably spent longer figuring out how HWR created and managed the loom. It's there you just missed the subtle clues.

Man what do you need more from an ending?

They did tease it, I’m season one when old man Loki at one point said something like…I think we might be more powerful than we realize…this show is about Loki discovering himself and the potential of his own powers, he didn’t know how powerful he was. A full circle for the character, only when he finally understood the lesson odin was trying to teach him, that the throne is not a position of power, but a position of service, he was able to accept a ascent to the throne. In a way he’s now the all father. And while he is all alone and always will be, unlike Sif’s prediction, it’s not because he’s an unlovable prick, quite the opposite. Being along in his throne is the burden of his glorious purpose.

I thought he got the power because of him getting brought out of time and the time slipping stuff plus centuries to learn how to control it.

I found not a single comment agreeing with John. 😂😂

This dude lost his mind.😂

Dude he’s anchoring all of reality to him that’s what it means he got centuries of training and understanding of what he’s doing

Can't help but think for once the Marvel writers trusted the viewer to understand Loki got the time slipping powers and over centuries learned to control them and become more powerful and John's like nah could you actually not trust us and spell it out please 😅

Episode was perfection

Loki leveled up as he kept time slipping and redoing the past. He kept learning more about his powers over the decades of making mistakes and growing as he time slipped.

It was a bittersweet ending. Loki learned he wants friends. Yet he sacrificed that and more to be alone on that throne.

I guess we watched different shows. Loki because he who remains made him time slip. He has had centuries if not more to become more powerful. The show showed how many times he had to mess up in order to grow. My favorite series is Loki .

John is literally this emoji: 🤓

Firstly, Loki didn’t die in Thor 2. Secondly, it’s inferred that Loki is becoming Time, and the ‘fiction’ of science visualises the concept of timelines being held together by the literal presentation of Time.

7:04 it was show in season 1 a older loki could be quite powerful, two he had centuries to develop his skills, he was time jumping to learn how to build the physics toy fixer thing, then he spent more and more jumping around his timeline to learn the knowledge to solve the problem, and then he was in a "temporal wake," that kind of shows hes getting older, I would have assumed he was protected by his time powers. So while cheap he learned it off screen and if you pay attention it is there.

I remember a line in the first season where Loki and Sylvia have just been using their powers and seen another variant do something they didn't expect and Loki states something like "maybe we're more powerful then we realise" - but that was the first season and never got reiterated in the second season as far as I recall.

I’ve noticed a pattern with your opinions, John. Feels like there can be this amazing show/movie, and you’ll get hung up on a very specific aspect which will ruin it for you, or at least to a degree. Then conversely there’s a mediocre to bad project that you love one aspect of so much that the flaws don’t seem to matter, and it can do no wrong. It’s always one or the other, and your opinions will intensify over time. To the point that you’ll hate the one with a single flaw, and absolutely love the not so good one for a specific reason 😅

Season one Richard grant loki showed him he's by dar more powerful than he thought

John there is such thing as pandering to "be popular on the internet" but there's also pandering to the fact you don't want to be like everyone else so you TRY to find something wrong.with it so you're not agreeing with everyone.