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In today's video, we examine London Heathrow, the world's busiest two-runway airport. From its origins to the present day, we will go through the options for expanding civil aviation in the UK.
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0:00 Introduction
0:46 Context
3:01 Story
4:32 Options
14:05 The Decision
15:58 Present Day
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Script: Ed Lee
Voiceover: Ric Rosenbaum
Video: Benjamin Barbe
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@ozbolli Год назад

Oh man American's trying to pronounce English towns.

@Jmaster009 Год назад

honestly if they just watch english pronounciations for 3 minutes....

@ozbolli Год назад

@@Jmaster009 my point exactly. These people are trying to promote themselves educating others when they can't even educate themselves.

@MeITellYou Год назад

Some of them get it but some are just, well it is like my way or the highway

@edwardjones4870 Год назад

Like Brits trying to pronounce Yosemite and Michigan!

@ozbolli Год назад

@@edwardjones4870 I like to think I do alright with them.

@philwoodward5069 Год назад

Outstanding pronunciation of Luton and Gillingham. Top stuff!

@Spike-yc5gx Год назад

And Farnborough. 😂

@CallieMasters5000 Год назад

Lu-tawn sounds so posh.😂

@charlesjay8818 2 месяца назад

@@CallieMasters5000 NO American accent sounds posh lol

@Cat10980 Год назад

By the time we have prevaricated about a third runway, Heathrow will need a fourth. It’s time we did an Amsterdam and built an additional two or three runways for future-proofing. Gatwick also needs another runway urgently.

@belltond1527 Год назад

Absolutely

@RunawayTrain2502 Год назад

At this point, expanding where there's room (Stansted for example) and then distributing flights between all of them wouldn't be a bad idea actually.

@flyingpanhandle Год назад

We don't do that here. HS2 was needed 20 years ago and we're still not sure we're still going to get it as it is, nevermind has what it needs to be for now, or where it may need to be in 50/60 years

@JPA65 Год назад

@@RunawayTrain2502 Heathrow is the hub for connecting flights though. People travel through it to other destinations. Airlines have already shown their unwillingness to use other airports such as Gatwick and if they don’t use Heathrow they’ll be looking towards other hubs across Europe. It is what it is so unfortunately we’re stuck with Heathrow

@wildsurfer12 Год назад

Again a new four runway airport in the Thames estuary would have fixed all this.

@georgemaster3845 Год назад

I don't know but I think that a 3rd runway would decrease carbon emissions in the long run. As the situation currently is with just 2 runways (i.e. only one runway for landings), it cannot handle the huge influx of incoming aircraft. For this reason, arrivals have to circle over London before being cleared to approach and land, burning more fuel and emitting more CO2 in the process. Therefore, I think that a 3rd runway would actually be environmentally beneficial if properly and efficiently used.

@kevonvideo Год назад

That would only be true if the number of landings would remain the same. Which we all know is not true.

@kevonvideo Год назад

@@jcspotter7322 😂

@gregessex1851 Год назад

@@jcspotter7322 CO2 isn't the problem? Best go back to Elementary School if you believe that.

@joshuatk59 Год назад

I’m with KevonVideo on this, by adding a third runway they will just increase the number of flights in and out of Heathrow in line with the airport’s increased capacity.

@lmlmd2714 Год назад

@@jcspotter7322 More CO2 doesn't equal more plants. All living plant species today are capable of growing with *less* CO2 than is currently in the atmosphere, but they can't grow on land that is inundated by saltwater encroachment from sea level raise, and are killed by wildfire and drought. There's no scenario where expanding the amount of air traffic is a net benefit to the environment.

@jamesb.8201 Год назад

Imagine building a house or choosing to live near an airport and then getting mad about what happens at an airport…

@lizzyxo9015 Год назад

A lot of the houses were there before the airport tho.. & some people have lived there before the airports creation

@CraigR-jc2fi Год назад

@@lizzyxo9015 heathrow opened in 1946 so i doubt anyone who was living there before that is still living there now

@shchorss Год назад

@@lizzyxo9015 No, the airport was built in open farmland back in the 40s. Heathrow was there before anyone else.

@pualdenis2006 Год назад

@@lizzyxo9015 Whatta silly comment

@AndrewLumsden Год назад

@@shchorss Except for those who lived in Sipson, Harmondsworth, Harlington, Colnbrook, Stanwell, Ashford, Cranford, Bedfont, Poyle etc.

@eirinym Год назад

It's absolutely mind boggling how long they've been dithering on adding just one runway to Heathrow. 2 runways for such an airport is way too much traffic per runway, yet it's been a decade and nothing's happening.

@zooski1516 Год назад

Their climate agenda had an unintended consequence 🤔

@monnawapye1995 Год назад

Yet they've squandered billions on test and trace

@AndrewLumsden Год назад

A bit more than a decade! More like 5 decades.

@B-A-L Год назад

That's British beaurocracy and red tape for you though.

@bhaveshpatil1885 Год назад

In Mumbai we operate almost same capacity, on Single operating Runway.

@lewc16 Год назад

Brit here. FYI, the expansion of Heathrow is absolutely NOT one of the most controversial issues we’ve got. It is important to the

@jeanhubsch4757 Год назад

I don’t understand how people buy properties close to airports and then complain about noise and air pollution.

@shrimpflea Год назад

Because people like to complain.

@jamesdaniels401 Год назад

Aside from a couple of mispronounced towns, I found this video entertaining, well-researched and historically accurate.

@Aeronaut1975 Год назад

Farnbruh and ̶g̶ luten 🙂

@Benjamin.Jamin. Год назад

@@Aeronaut1975 "Loo-Tonn" was hilarious.

@ozbolli Год назад

Good for you lol

@johns9265 Год назад

I grew up 4 miles from LHR in the 50s and 60s when there were six runways. The shorter runways were gradually closed as aircraft got bigger and longer runways were needed. Terminal 3 was built on one runway and parking stands on another. Even in the 60s and 70s there were proposals for a third runway to the north. I worked at STN and LGW in the 80s. Neither initially had any scheduled services. I remember when American tried a service from STN to Chicago or was it Pittsburgh. Passengers arriving from the US were horrified that they had to take a bus to LHR for their onward flights. End of American service. It has taken 40 years for LGW and STN to get where they are now and airlines forced to move. I now frequently travel LGW-TPA rather than from LHR as that requires a change at MIA, CLT or PHL. While LHR continues as a principal transit hub its expansion does seem an intractable problem. I don't think I will see a solution in my lifetime.

@prachyavandegevel7176 Год назад

Virgin now flies to Tampa from LHR!

@johns9265 Год назад

@@prachyavandegevel7176 Thanks. I was aware of them starting the service but the Virgin rate from LHR is 50% more at the moment than BA from LGW.

@acspectre3130 Год назад

Heathrow had its 3rd runway in the 90s! It was, like the others that were built on, only for when the landing crosswinds were too high. 3 runway operations was always entertaining! To make Heathrow catch up to the rest of the BIG international airports. It needs to have a 3rd parallel runway. This year (2023) Heathrow is scheduled to break pre covid movement records! During covid Heathrow was the only airfield in the UK to maintain over 100 movements (arrival/departures) per day. Gatwick dropped to 10!

@TeutonicTamer Год назад

Heathrow originally had 7 runways IIRC

@electro_sykes 6 месяцев назад

I say replace Heathrow, Stansted, and Gatwick all with a new and improved, Manston Mega Airport that can be linked up to HS1. And then use all the space of Heathrow to solve the housing crisis.

@frankb3178 Год назад

While I understand there are many issues, the fact that London is surrounded by so many other airports sort of demands that they be utilized. The airlines can assist in how this might be done.

@TheRip72 Год назад

The problem with that is the economic requirement to use Heathrow as a hub & the UK's location at the edge of Europe makes it ideal for this.

@owensmith7530 Год назад

If you're flying in on one flight and out on another, being told you have to get on the train to one of the other airports for the connecting flight is not going to be popular.

@mattevans4377 Год назад

@@TheRip72 Could the hub be in another city? If you are just passing through, why does it need to be in London?

@sirBrouwer Год назад

@@mattevans4377 well technically yes it could. however. you would need: A. A airport capable of handling that volume of traffic both by air and land. B. Have enough people with in a area to be able to staff said airport. C. Need enough airlines to want to fly to that airport above Heathrow. (you will need to incentify them) D. with all those constraints you will also need to earn back the cost of said airportrport that would still be very very expensive. Also if the result would be that the new airport becomes to expensive. you risk that airlines will just ditch your airport and go to a other European hub. (Amsterdam, Paris, Frankfurt) that would mean that the UK would see a lot of tax income just go away. it's a tough balance in any situation.

@JeanClaudeCOCO 7 месяцев назад

@@owensmith7530he’s just saying use the other airports for local non connecting travel, intra UK and Europe traffic while passengers arriving to connect to the U.S. etc use Heathrow.

@heraldtim Год назад

"We hate every option and just want to complain." Got it.

@buzzinbritain8222 Год назад

That is the way........

@user-yp6kn2uw4k 14 дней назад

This was said by an Am---с*an, because he doesn’t care about the residents of the London suburbs!

@user-yp6kn2uw4k 14 дней назад

They definitely need to complain and not remain silent, like an ewe to the slaughter, otherwise the corporacrats will sit on these people’s heads.

@user-yp6kn2uw4k 14 дней назад

Silence and resignation are signs of servility, sycophancy and slavish thinking.

@shahilj Год назад

This is a phenomenal video. It has everything you need to know! Love it

@AirwaysMagazine Год назад

thank you so much!

@msphere760 Год назад

@@AirwaysMagazine just your pronunciations are a little comical 😂

@charlesjay8818 2 месяца назад

Everything in this video has been covered b4, nothing new here. Just copied and pasted from other sources

@lakiyoko Год назад

Like it or not, Heathrow needs another runway, the same for Gatwick

@jonathanchester5916 Год назад

It's pretty hard to explain to people outside the UK how SLOW it is to travel a mile relative to countries like Canada or the US. Unless there is high speed rail out to the east, it'll never make sense to reallocate LHR's status as number one in the area. If you live on opposite sides of the city you'll know how long or expensive it is to travel the region. Personally I am all for the airport going waaaaay up the Thames estuary but the costs will be eye watering.

@stephenjones8928 Год назад

You've never driven across Toronto during commute times :)

@UraFlight Год назад

Thames estuary is not a choice, too far away. It takes me sometimes to travel from south London to Heathrow more than 1 hour in the morning before the traffic kicks in. Gatwick expansion is much better and cheaper option.

@alexrowson-brown6568 Год назад

I’ve travelled it and you’re exaggerating, it’s really not that bad Though I now live in the north and travelling a miles pretty quick

@Spike-yc5gx Год назад

@@UraFlight I always thought that the Gatwick option was the most sensible.

@kenoliver8913 Год назад

Don't you have these things called trains there? A sensible airport places far more emphasis on integration with the train network, not the road network - that's certainly the case in the rest of Europe. Oh, that's right - you don't think of yourselves as part of Europe.

@SirKenchalot Год назад

Love that you have the SS Montgomery marked on your map! Let's not build too close to her... just in case.

@sirBrouwer Год назад

why not. it would have to get the let the aircrafts fly very fast very quickly.

@michaelalexander65 Год назад

Thank you for this really good summary.

@AirwaysMagazine Год назад

Thank you!

@henrysantos121 Год назад

This is absolutely nice video well done,

@eurouc Год назад

Just go ahead and do it. The NIMBYs will always be there

@richardcoco9316 Год назад

The Boris Island idea is a good one. Although it would require new transport links (roads, trains etc) what people don't realise is that once that is built, Heathrow can be demolished and sold off to developers to make up for the costs as it would be one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in whole of UK and even Europe.

@SMX815 Год назад

It would have been the easiest one to build etc

@jackpowell9276 Год назад

They can also legislate against new building permits along its approach vectors so they don't get future noise complaints, and have room for future expansion.

@rolandsuch Год назад

I remember when I worked for Ford in Essex, and Ford Air was Stansted’s biggest user and received priority clearance when taking off. Talking about a new site south of Southend on Sea, Southend airport is also now called London Southend and is considered London’s 6th airport. Also, as a child, there was the Maplin Sands sea and airport project, which was never realised.

@kleeblattchen38 4 месяца назад

from a cursery glance at all secondary london airport expansion options, stansted seems the most practical, it has ample room to the east for a parallel runway and a new terminal complex, mirroring the existing and room for efficient taxiway routings to connect both sides... departure and approach routes of the new runway would also hardly overfly any densly populated towns and there is already a raillink which of course should be a priority to optimize/expand if this solution is considered

@user-zh9kc7tw4n Год назад

When people say an airport should be built on the east side of London or South they forget most infrastructure to transport people is to the west of London. Extending Heathrow is the best option. It is far cheaper and less nature destruction than building new infrastructure to a new airport or expanding others it would be better to close one or two of the others and concentrating on Heathrow. And with the new HS2 connections and with the newly opened Elizabeth Line connections to Heathrow it needs to happen. Also the connection to Manchester Airport with 50minutes on the train will be even better.

@kbtred51 Год назад

Like the sound of the new high speed link between London and St Pancras in the blink of an eye.

@robertsnorrason2494 Год назад

To me, as a passenger, the most frustrating part of any airport, is transit and taxi time. And since most existing mega-airports in Europe and in the US are either terribly designed from the beginning (JFK, Newark, Gatwick, Heathrow are prime examples of poor design), or have such complicated logistical challenges when trying to expand (surroundings, environment etc)., it seems to me, the only really logical option is to built from scratch, on land that has more or less limitless expansion possibilities. It would also give airport designer a unique opportunity to design and built a facility that optimises the whole travel experience. In the case of London, having a facility that can be open 24 hours and can handle what today's Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton and Stansted airports can combined, could in the long run, be better, safer and more efficient than what exists today. Some of, if not all 4 before mentioned airports could be closed, or restricted to cargo, domestic and private operations, freeing up massive amounts of living space, which is a massive problem in and around London. It would also make ATC a helluvalot simpler than it is today.

@AGP335 Год назад

Heathrow actually does rather well in transit time - 15 minutes to the city centre with the Heathrow express, running every quarter hour

@shchorss Год назад

JFK is fine

@pcread Год назад

How are local carbon (dioxide) emissions a negative factor for residents? There are actual pollutants that come out of the back of jet engines that can influence air quality at ground level, but CO2 isn't one of them. BTW, it's pronounced Lut-un.

@PauldeSwardt Год назад

Missed out London's sixth Airport London Southend(SEN) also Luton(LTN) LewTon is pronounced Lewten!

@znek4288 Год назад

Lew tawn

@RunawayTrain2502 Год назад

The Alhallows site does actually have a Freight link to the Southeastern network into London Bridge, Cannon Street and Charing Cross.

@sebastian.stamour Год назад

Awesome video!! I really have no idea why they dismissed Luton or Stanstead so quickly. Both of those airports have more than enough space for expansion and connectivity to downtown London

@barrel6468 Год назад

I think it’s mostly because major airlines are already well established at Heathrow. Yes, Luton and Stansted both have opportunities for expansion. However Heathrow is already the main airport for Greater London and sees a lot of international traffic from major carriers like American, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, etc. Stansted and Luton both mostly see Low Cost Carriers that focus more on leisure travel which isn’t what London really needs. For expansion at either of those airports to be viable, many of the facilities at those airports would have to be upgraded to be able to handle more passengers and larger aircraft. It’s just more convenient to expand the airport that already specializes in those things.

@user-do5zk6jh1k Год назад

Japan does it right with Tokyo Haneda and Narita. Narita is largely the international connecting flight field and Haneda is the international terminal. This isn't a rigid rule, but sort of how the division of traffic is done. In the case that a passenger is stopping or departing from Narita, there is a railway connecting to the city

@Cat10980 Год назад

Mostly major airlines don’t want to operate at STN or LTN. It’s as simple as that.

@commuterjack Год назад

They're both dominated by Low cost airlines, Heathrow is more convenient and Stansted is already hell in terms of delays.

@mopman94 Год назад

It takes 22 minutes to get from central London to Heathrow on public transport. It takes 1 hour 10 minutes to get to Luton and 55 minutes to get to Stansted. Those airports aren’t appropriate for expansion.

@nothingtosee7718 22 дня назад

Really need to expand all the U.K. airports and this needs to be done ASAP. Then Manchester and Doncaster/Sheffield needs work and capacity.

@Aeronaut1975 Год назад

"Farnborough" is pronounced "farn-bruh" (but it's said as one word), and not "farn-burrow". Any time you see "borough" in an English place name (or 'a burgh' in in a Scotish place name), it's always pronounced "bruh". Also, "Luton" rhymes with "gluten", exactly the same in fact, but without the 'g' at the front).

@schnitzelsemmel 3 месяца назад

To me it makes most sense to expand Gatwick (or another airport different from Heathrow) for transit. Passengers having a stop-over don't need to be close to the city anyways. If one or two big airlines moved out of Heathrow this would already help enourmously. Similar to how United Airlines moved to EWR.

@tbas003 Год назад

London trasit is terrible. I'm from Brazil and I haven't seen any country as expensive for mobility as the UK. Eurostar is insanely expensive, and I paid £19 to get Gatwick, that is more than a round-trip to Luton. London lack of options to its airports. If I haven't take the train to gatwick, I would've have to pay a £70 uber. In Lisbon you can get to the airport for €1, in Porto it's a €16 uber, in orlando that would be $26 if you're not already renting a car. In my city, São Paulo, we have a 30 minute train every hour for R$4,40; that's less than a pound. My currency is crap, but I truly believe even americans would be shocked by the prices, and the Luton bus is so slow. These this are very stressful because one day you have to be up at 6 in paris to get to luton at 10 but you'll only arrive at Victoria by 12. 6 hours for 400 km, and slower than going by car. I wish I had a chance to watch a game at Anfield or old Trafford, but the bus would cost £60 and take 6 hours. I can only imagine how many Easyjet, ryanair or wizz air flights I could take with that money

@jsmith1746 Год назад

London needs a bare minimum of two more runways, and more likely three of four. IMHO, Heathrow needs two more runways, Gatwick needs one more, and Stansted one more.

@shrimpflea Год назад

They need 4 parallel runways and 24/7 like LAX so they can run traffic all the time.

@AndrewG1989 Год назад

London Heathrow Airport wants to expand even more with the runway to extend and to go over the M25 London Orbital Motorway near Staines.

@jimbo6059 Год назад

You also forget Horley to the north of Gatwick. Because it is in Surrey i suppose and has a quarter of the people of Crawley. The land they want to use to the south is good predominantly open land though.

@timpaniradio Месяц назад

I think that expanding Gatwick, equipping it with green hydrogen fueling, interlinking Heathrow & Gatwick with a high speed link between the two & switching the routes around (LHR Long Haul, LGW Short Haul) is the best forseeable option. What would you guys think?

@MENSA.lady2 Год назад

At Heathrow, without demolishing literally thousands of buildings expansion can't happen, so if more capacity in the London area is needed then expansion of the other airports needs examination. A second runway at Gatwick is possible. Stanstead and Luton have scope for expansion but both will need better links to central London and not at the present rip-off prices. Sadly present beaurocrats will talk about it for at least 20 years and will do nothing.

@ozbolli 9 месяцев назад

*Stansted*

@belltond1527 Год назад

And this is why we have poor economic growth. We dither when it comes to new projects

@JulesOfIslington Год назад

The original judgment in the judicial review action against the UK Government in respect of the proposed Heathrow expansion was overturned in October 2020, on an appeal brought by the owners of Heathrow Airport to the UK Supreme Court.

@Caprica-od6oc Год назад

It is a though decision. Environment or economy. I'm not familiar with the situation of people leaving around Heathrow but I do notice that all over the world communities appear around airports that eventually will grow bigger and expect the government to limit that expansion because there are too many planes going over my house. I live 15 minutes from JFK in an area that did not exist when the airport was first build. Now it grew into the major hub that it's but can't expand because of the same concerns of people living around it. Are they supposed to close a runway because too much noise from the planes?

@Kuricang31 Год назад

Wanting to lived near the airport due to cheap land prices and better public transport then complained about the noise etc. Might as well shoot yourself in the foot lol

@benoitbourdaire4194 4 месяца назад

What offset are we talking about? I am guessing as a ratio or bore or capacity?

@YN-io6kj Год назад

Personally I think heathrow should start operating 24 hours a day on a limited service ofcourse. Aircract have become a lot quiter than they used to be and triple glazed windows are much better. They could use different approach patters/ steeper flide slopes to reduce the noise at night for the local residents. This would create so much more capacity.

@252Bean Год назад

Agree, I flew in to Gatwick from Argentina a few years ago landing around 3am and it was empty and a dream. Apparently only certain aircraft can but was no bother at all, but then you do see the photos at Heathrow of them so low over houses.

@MarkJHEllis Год назад

I use Heathrow quite a bit, the road structure around the terminals 1,2&3 needs to be updated as there is always congestion and delays.

@fezmaan Год назад

Just so you know it’s LUTUN, FARNBRUH and JILLING-UM

@Suursaadik Год назад

Nice history video!

@AirwaysMagazine Год назад

Thanks!

@UraFlight Год назад

I’m local from London. The best option is to build second runway at Gatwick

@AndrewLumsden Год назад

Together with a second runway at Luton and Stansted and Manchester and Edinburgh and Glasgow. In addition to the extra one at Heathrow. We just need to get on with it.

@BabyWavv Год назад

Personally I don’t know if it’s just the American in me but I feel London Heathrow is way too big and way too busy to only have two runways one of my local airports Chicago O’Hare has it least 6, 8 total if I’m not mistaken and we don’t see nearly as much international travel

@ulysseslee9541 Год назад

O’Hare mostly narrow body flights and it reserved a huge land for expansion, Heathrow doesn't have.

@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Год назад

Your local airport isn’t a local airport, o’Hare is the most connected airport in the world

@freddy2B Год назад

As busy as it is, how does LHR function with only two runways?! It truly boggles my mind!

@HomebaseLHR Год назад

Lots and lots of air traffic flow delays… and a crap load of holding patterns

@kenoliver8913 Год назад

Of course it is going to take a disaster due to overcrowding and too much work for some poor air traffic controller before people get the point that a runway expansion is in the long run cheaper than the alternative. IMO most cost-benefit analyses for projects do not pay enough attention to hidden benefits like this.

@shrimpflea Год назад

They have no choice

@terryterry1655 6 месяцев назад

how to secure heathrow slot for new startup ? pls advise. alternatively Standsted #a350

@SMX815 Год назад

As much I would love to see this come into fruition but I think it will takes years as well as billions to build, et cetera 👍

@michaelf.h8507 6 месяцев назад

The cost and disruption by moving Motorways and building tunnels around LHR with a 3rd runways is a cause for concern. There is a very cost effective and timely plan to move the LGW taxiway a few meters (3.5 Metres) north and use this as a 2nd runway for short haul aircraft thus freeing up the main runway for wide body jets. There are numerous Long haul airlines using LGW. -BA, TUI, NORSE, Emirates, Qatar, Delta, Air Transat, Air Arabia, Air China, Air India, Air Mauritius, Bamboo Airways, China Eastern, Ethiopian airlines, Jet Blue, and Royal Air Maroc, etc. LGW is the busiest single runway airport in the world. So all that is needed in the short term is an improved rail link to LHR via Reading which is mainly in place but needs upgrading. The LHR expansion is urgently needed but there is little Budget or the desire to endure the disruption.

@AeroBennett855 2 месяца назад

I found a video game company’s European headquarters 7 miles east of Heathrow Airport named “Sega of Europe”

@AeroBennett855 2 месяца назад

Oh I also forgot to tell you I also like the idea of extending runway 27R instead of a third runway Because the third runway is met with extremely stern criticism

@audacity60 Год назад

Building a runway over the M25 Motorway will cause chaos for years. This Motorway is at a standstill at rush hour already. Better to go back to the original plan & just build a short runway for turboprops & regional jets, that does not go over the motorway. Gatwick is the same. It just needs a new short runway to complement its existing long runway.

@LAGoodz Год назад

Taking into account all of London’s several airports, the city is by far the busiest metropolitan aviation hub in the world. I think Stansted would be an obvious option. It’s gone from nothing to saturation in 30 years and has the land. I think London will never have a single mega airport, it has many benefits for people to have several different airports around the south east of England as is now. For example when I fly Stansted to AMS, it takes me door to door in 3 hours. Doing that (for me) from Heathrow and it adds another 2 hours just getting there. Airlines are probably avoiding both Gatwick and Stansted because both are single runway operations and running near full capacity. There’s no logic for airlines to build operations at both.

@John-nc4bl Год назад

Wrong. The London area is not the busiest metro av hub in the world. The Chinese airports in the Pearl River Delta area is the busiest air transport complex in the world.

@LAGoodz Год назад

@@John-nc4bl I’ve never heard of a city called Pearl River Delta.

@dodahspeak Год назад

@@John-nc4bl Not wrong. Close .... but no cigar. If you consider all London airports (adding in data for London Stansted, Luton, and Southend), the total is just over 175 million which makes the London area the busiest metro aviation hub in the world.

@Kuricang31 Год назад

@@John-nc4bl"Pearl River Delta area is busiest air transport complex in the world" lolololol Mate you're drunk AF. No airports in Pearl River Delta area has ever been on the list of top 10 busiest airports in the world, let alone be the world's busiest even though they include Hong Kong and Guangzhou 😂😂😂

@HomeboyHotel Год назад

Extending the northern runway to make 2 operational runways is quicker, cheaper and more efficient.

@electro_sykes 6 месяцев назад

I say replace Heathrow, Stansted, and Gatwick all with a new and improved, Manston Mega Airport that can be linked up to HS1. And then use all the space of Heathrow to solve the housing crisis.

@FasterLower Год назад

Here's a radical proposal. Reopen Wisley (2km runway at A3/M25 junction), link it, Heathrow & Gatwick with some form of high-speed transit and run all 3 with common ATC. They are all E/W runways so coordinating ATC shouldn't be an issue. Of course this would never work as Heathrow & Gatwick have different owners and an extra runway at one is a licence to print money!

@benr970 Год назад

I like the idea but as an air traffic controller that is absolutely crazy. In no world would that ever be possible. They are already incredibly busy and controllers there have to be super skilled, coordinating between the two airports via one atc would quite literally be impossible I’m afraid

@FasterLower Год назад

@@benr970 Thanks for your reply. For my education, why is it difficult/impossible to operate 2 runways sya 10 miles appart. You would need 2 different ground controlers but why not a single approach/departure controler? How is this much different from operating with 2 paralell runways a mile appart? Thanks for your insight.

@benr970 Год назад

@@FasterLower I think it’s purely the size of the operation. Gatwick and Heathrow approach are already done remotely from a place called terminal controller on the south coast and the training for each individually takes a very long time. Nothing would really change controllers would only be allowed to train and be signed off on one airport or one half so it would be a little bit pointless.

@FasterLower Год назад

@@benr970 Many thanks for the explanation.

@paullewis2413 Год назад

Mass demolitions at. Crawley? Sounds a good idea - lol.

@MrJb1963 15 дней назад

Six airports? I only see five!

@sheltengeorgeas8205 Год назад

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@NaenaeGaming Год назад

Do people not watch other videos that would probably feature correct pronunciations to research information before making these videos?

@frankyboy1131 Год назад

06:40 I don't see why the M20 relocation should cause a big disruption. (1) Just build the new Western lanes completely including tunnels, then shift northbound traffic to the new section. Connecting the new section at both ends to the rest of the motorway should be a matter of days only, if not hours. Then destroy old Western lanes. (2) Do the same with southbound eastern lanes. (3) Done. (4) I'm not saying it would be cheap, I'm just saying there wouldn't be a big disruption.

@markfarmer1815 Год назад

Seeing as London already has 6 airports serving it, there is another already fit for purpose at Farnborough, which is less than an hour from central London, there is plenty of land at Farnborough airport for expansion and it will cost a lot less than building a third runway at Heathrow.

@johnguidetti5839 Год назад

Too far and south west trains wouldn’t be able to handle the traffic.

@markfarmer1815 Год назад

@John Guidetti I respect your point of view but you can say the same about London Stanstead and london Southend although Farnborough has the M3 close by and the A3 which are both major routes into central London.

@johnguidetti5839 Год назад

@@markfarmer1815 True, on reflection a EasyJet or Ryanair would make a lot of profit out of Farnborough to European destinations.

@admiralbenbow5083 Год назад

What a lot of people dont realise is that there is already a third runway. Has been for years. In fact there were 4 until they built on one of them. Trouble is that they cross the two main runways, do not face East West and are a bit short.

@khalidabdulghani 8 месяцев назад

Heathrow was actually initially built with 6 runways. The north and south runways are extended and the other 4 were turned into taxiways and terminals.

@AllyJane44 Год назад

I'm not sure why we (the UK) don't utilise some of the totally abandoned and empty airports already built? Southend Airport has like 2 planes a day, London city's runway can only handle tiny business jets not average sized airliners, Cambridge Airport maybe 1 plane a week and now Norwich Airport is being abandoned too. I understand London being such a prime location but other people do live in the south east of England that would like to use an airport not in London! Thanks in advance.😂 Also fully agree heathrow needs another runway

@buzzinbritain8222 Год назад

London city can handle planes capable of taking 130-150 passengers........... not 'tiny business jets'

@TeutonicTamer Год назад

What evidence do you have to support your claim that Norwich Airport is "being abandoned"? NWI is perfectly capable of maintaining its operations, and its link with a major European hub. The only problem for NWI is the poor road links.

@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Год назад

Southend airport is too short to accommodate most airlines. Cambridge airport has been closed. Norwich airport is in Norwich

@archiewells1197 Год назад

Gatwick airport need to expand the south terminal is dated Gatwick needs a new runway

@peterfox2538 Год назад

The way this world's going I don't think this will ever happen it goes against net zero .

@millllbs Год назад

Luton and South End are hardly London big airports and no one goes anywhere apart from Gatwick or Heathrow. Gatwick should get second runway and put a high speed rail link between the two

@millllbs Год назад

also Heathrow have historically bad management and excessive waste. Gatwick is run much better and is all round the best idea from someone who lives in the area.

@millllbs Год назад

and the rail line is fine not really that close to capacity

@deu8894 Год назад

Too many (though valid considerations) for aviation upgrade for London. What if Manchester airport was expanded to include a third runway with complimentary facilities and then a sizeable slize of new connecting flights are routed through Manchester. Since all six airports in the London area cannot be upgraded without all these considerations. That's on the assumption that Manchester airport doesn't have is own share of limitations for expansion.

@aviatordube Год назад

I live in Manchester and I couldn’t see it having anymore than it’s current 2 runways. Plus not really much space to build a 3rd and we aren’t nearly as busy as LHR.

@craigschrock7959 Год назад

Build newer bigger and better for the future. Have one big airport and lose the small ones. Use old airports for new developments. Think of the future people and not ur butts. All the airports will need to expand with no land available. Back to one large airport to serve the future of growth.

@qazwsx000xswzaq Год назад

They should have expanded both Heathrow and Gatwick and strengthen the link between the twins instead of wasting time tailspinning.

@shreyas4085 Год назад

They should just expand Heathrow as Gatwick and some other airports are much further away from central London

@saulsheldon8038 Год назад

There will be no third runway, this is Britain, where all we do is talk.

@henreereeman8529 7 месяцев назад

Sorry but HS1 is really not at capacity yet, like 4 trains use it every hour from St Pancras

@davidwebb4904 Год назад

Heathrow has already set out plans for a fourth runway.

@shrimpflea Год назад

Don't they need a third one first?

@davidwebb4904 Год назад

@@shrimpflea What they need is to close. Its a third world airport.

@ennihubi8632 Год назад

Why dont they Build a highspeed Connection between Gatwick and Heathrow (40kms) and combine the 2 Airports into one big airport. you could Travel between them without leaving Transit area and it would only take like 20mins.

@dodahspeak Год назад

@Enni WavV That was a proposal at one time but was rejected by the UK Government Department for Transport in 2018 on cost and environmental grounds.

@MiggleMYT Год назад

God I wish this were one of the most controversial issues facing the United Kingdom at the moment

@imsbvs Год назад

Political inaction costs everyone money. Wilst the new airports would have been "nice" there really is no need for new builds, just more runways, certainly at Heathrow and most likely a second at Gatwick too. The one factor not given enough attention is the number of passengers who change aircraft for onwards connections, look at Dubai and weep. These passengers do not need land transport, just easy inter terminal links and facilities. As a UK resident near London I would not select Heathrow as my first choice airport; I much prefer one of the smaller airports however Heathrow offers a range of destinations second to none - for these it often requires a change of aircraft en route if departing from any other airport.

@EssGeeSee Год назад

It makes so much sense to move short haul to Northolt.

@AndrewLumsden Год назад

They already have London City for short-haul to Europe, albeit aimed at the business traveller. Northolt is too small a site and apaling public transport links.

@Wayne-xv6fd Год назад

Northolt is an airbase, with quite a short uneven runway.

@buzzinbritain8222 Год назад

@@Wayne-xv6fd Has a longer runway than London City............... and its more a private jet centre thanan active 'airbase' these days

@TeutonicTamer Год назад

@@buzzinbritain8222 Yes, but those private jets are primarily for VVIPs, royalty, heads of state, etc. Northolt is simply not designed for commercial air travel

@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Год назад

@@buzzinbritain8222 longer than London city is not saying much.

@LizardDoggo Год назад

Extending 27 *RIGHT* (it is *not* 27 “R”) seems idiotic. A runway overrun would prove very costly, possibly closing down two runways. What are the go-around procedures? If an aircraft is taking off while an aircraft is landing, and the landing aircraft performs a go around, especially if it’s single engine, how will a mid-air collision be avoided?

@benr970 Год назад

Tbf it does read stupid at first but what it means is they won’t be clearing the aircraft for take off until they’ve seen the aircraft land. It will save lots of time as you then don’t have to wait for the aircraft to slow all the way down and vacate the runway. Would increase the movements massively

@LizardDoggo Год назад

@@benr970 Brake failure? What will save it then?

@benr970 Год назад

@@LizardDoggo I get what you are saying but this logic can be applied to any part of aviation, what ifs. Stop ends and over runs are there to ensure an aircraft has space to come to a hault in time

@christopheripad477 Год назад

I never understood why it was a competition, with only one airport getting the new runway. We only have one airport with more than one runway which is a sad story. Why not have a massive investment with Gatwick, Heathrow, Stanstead, Birmingham and Manchester. Make Britain great again.

@FranciscoCamino Год назад

The issue is the same accross the world in all hubs. Should we make hub to be endless bigger and bigger or should we regionalise a bit aviation?. I know hubs are more profitable for airlines, but for its passengers?. Perhaps the problem with LHR is not if more runways could be added but if air space around London is able be accomodate more and more planes. Interesting debate

@hjr0021 Год назад

It would make a lot of sense if an airport in the north of London is chosen for expansion, which in turn spurs the growth towards the north of England. One of the airlines at LHR (such as Virgin Atlantic) could actually relocate their operations to the newly expanded airport and create their own single large hub. British Airways would stick to LHR obviously.

@lawrencejob Год назад

“The expansion of Heathrow Airport is one of the most controversial issues in the United Kingdom” Bit dramatic 😅

@amazer747 Год назад

Was Manston (in Kent) ever considered. A rail network connecting Manston to the HS1 services to St Pancras and an upgrade to the A2/M2 motorway should, in my opinion, be considered.

@Da__goat Год назад

I don't understand why they don't try to distribute the load from LHR to the other airports in the area around London? Surely it would be cheaper to add facilities to Stansted and Gatwick. Or even Southend. Gatwick is literally surrounded by fields and farmlands. And Stansted has huge tracks of fields all around it that can be bought for use.

@markinboy Год назад

That is not how you get an enhanced hub.

@st.denysthemartyr791 Год назад

Has anyone considered "up-gauging" services in and out of London's airports (ie: bigger jets)?? In theory, carriers could spread the same number of seats across fewer weekly frequencies, right?? Perhaps the local airports authority could make a rule, something to the effect of "dont bring your little-a** jets here." I know "big" kinda went out of fashion in the last decade, but maybe the current problem at LHR has shown that we were a bit hasty with that (maybe time to fire up that A380 line again 😏). Just one idea. Seems easier than demolishing an entire town, or really *any* of the other proposed ideas. And yeah, you can argue CASM, etc on quad jets, but someone already mentioned time and gas spent doing laps in the pattern...seems like the savings could add up in a hurry. Just my £0.02

@TeutonicTamer Год назад

Very wise words. We need smart solutions. But there is also no doubt that a third runway at LHR is vital.

@st.denysthemartyr791 Год назад

@@TeutonicTamer Idk about "wise," but I'll take the compliment.

@SouthCountyDreaming Год назад

Stansted with another runway and better connectivity would be a complete ace of a project. Likewise w Gatwick. Move Virgin to its own airport and leave BA w LHR. Remove the last of the low cost carriers at LHR and incentivize the foreign carriers to use Gatwick and Stansted.

@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc Год назад

Growth is no longer an acceptable paradigm for today’s world.

@buzzinbritain8222 Год назад

Not in a lot of western economies - will soon be ruled over by the Chinese, so no worries..........

@jarkiiaviation4643 Год назад

Liutonne vs lu’on

@craigroberts3732 7 месяцев назад

Gatwick is in desperate need of a refurb

@syedputra5955 Год назад

All these hindrances in building infrastructures actually holding back european economies. And cost to spiral.

@alexanderwindsor996 Год назад

Heathrow should have 6 runways at least according to the amount of air traffic.

@B-A-L Год назад

Would be nice if we had as much spare land as America has.

@Kuricang31 Год назад

@@B-A-LIt's the mentality which is the problem mate, not the land. If UK cities can be all planned like in Netherlands or if people are willing to lived in apartments and condominiums there'll be plenty of land for airport expansion. Just asked the Japanese or the Dutch

@shrimpflea Год назад

The only need 4 parallel runways and operate 24/7 like LAX. That would more than double what they handle now.

@joelleerickson2642 Год назад

Great summary, but as others have pointed out the pronunciation is all wrong. It isn’t 27 “R”, it’s 27 Right.

@ilcavicchioli Год назад

Is it me or does the shape of Heathrow in the video's preview look like the province of Buenos Aires in Argentina? 😂

@AirwaysMagazine Год назад

We also see it, only after some googling though😅

@ilcavicchioli Год назад

@@AirwaysMagazine Yeah I forgot to mention that I lived in Argentina for a while, so their maps are imprinted in my mind😅

@alexrowson-brown6568 Год назад

Expand Luton, Gatwick and stansted easy all have a lot of room, health row doesn’t

@ricardosam8050 Год назад

I believe government should let it happen , if not country will suffer really badly . But make environment friendly

@ydhirsch Год назад

Why did Heathrow close runway 23? It was a perfectly useful third runway.

@Kuricang31 Год назад

Airport expansion mate. It was closed and destroyed partially to make way for the construction of Terminal 3

@ydhirsch 11 месяцев назад

@@Kuricang31 Do you mean Terminal 4, perhaps?

@Kuricang31 11 месяцев назад

@@ydhirsch Nope. The construction of Terminal 4 if I'm not mistaken had nothing to do with the decommissioning of Runway 23 as by looking at the map, Terminal 4 was in safe distance from Runway 23 It was decommissioned due to the extension of Pier 6 on Terminal 3 to make way for the A380s which was completed in 2006, a year after Runway 23 was used instead for taxiway