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London's Council Estates during the 1980s/90s | Social housing | Poverty | Vandalism 

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A documentary made up of 1980s and 1990s news footage clips from London's Council Estates, including Broadwater Farm, Mozart and Ronan Point.
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Thames News was the flagship regional news programme of Thames Television, serving the Thames ITV region and broadcast on weekdays from 12 September 1977 to 31 December 1992.
Footage References:
1. Mozart Estate:
TN-85-007-026.m4v | 00:00 - 01:36
TN-85-066-015.m4v | 01:36 - 03:36
2. Stonebridge Estate:
TN-SL-026-009.m4v | 03:36 - 05:11
TN-87-129-039.m4v | 05:11 - 05:38
3. North Peckham Estate:
TN-90-096-016.m4v | 05:38 - 06:19
TN-88-034-005.m4v | 06:19 - 06:39
TN-87-129-041.m4v | 06:39 - 08:57
4. Teviot Estate:
TN-84-044-031.m4v | 08:57 - 11:25
5. Trowbridge Estate:
TN-83-071-040.m4v | 11:25 - 13:20
6. Marquess Estate:
TN-90-149-007.m4v | 13:20 - 14:33
7. Digby Estate:
TN-87-122-022.m4v | 14:33 - 16:05
8. Waterlow Estate:
TN-82-092-027.m4v | 16:05 - 17:31
9. Stockwell Park Estate:
TN-85-014-005.m4v | 17:31 - 19:36
10. Thames View Estate:
TN-85-009-025.m4v | 19:36 - 20:55
11. Clapton Park Estate:
TN-85-057-013.m4v | 20:55 - 22:49
TN-85-069-022.m4v | 22:49 - 24:35
12. Ronan Point Estate:
TN-84-102-026.m4v | 24:35 - 25:59
13. Clapham Park Estate:
TN-87-155-036.m4v | 25:59 - 27:31
14. Doddington Estate
TN-83-071-006.m4v | 27:31 - 29:02
15. Perronet House Estate:
TN-86-116-025.m4v | 29:02 - 31:03
16. Milton Court Estate:
TN-86-115-015.m4v | 31:03 - 31:38
17. Chalkhill Estate:
TN-83-101-028.m4v | 31:38 - 33:03
18. Ferrier Estate:
TN-84-085-017.m4v | 33:03 - 33: 48
19. Willow Tree Estate:
TN-81-014-023.m4v | 33:48 - 35:48
20. Stamford Hill Estate:
TN-88-032-029.m4v | 35:48 - 38:13
21. Broadwater Farm Estate:
TN-87-035-030.m4v | 38:13 - 41:58

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@motherflange
@motherflange 3 года назад
My working-class grandparents were moved into an estate like this when their Victorian terrace (inc the neighbouring streets) was acquired under the Compulsory Purchase Act in the late 70's. The whole neighbourhood was practically scooped up and relocated - 100 metres away - to a newly built complex. However, the new properties had no garden and were incredibly poky. Not much sunlight ever graced the place due to the small windows, tight corridors, and walkways; and the community spirit was decimated overnight. Once the tenants began to age, you had little old ladies on the 10th floor struggling to navigate the concrete steps because the communal elevator was busted. The place became a sink estate by the early 90's because the council would move in an antisocial tenant which disrupted an already depressive environment. It makes one wonder who designed these awful buildings. Likely some middle-class ponce who thought cramming in tenants - like prisoners - was the way of the future. P.S. - the Victorian terraces were demolished and replaced with a gated community of upmarket detached and semi-detached housing. A high fence was erected which separated my grandparents' complex from their old grounds. Class divide if there ever was.
@mo6278
@mo6278 Год назад
Division is the same as devide and conquer They want us at each others necks to justify the way they respond
@Moneytane1976
@Moneytane1976 Год назад
Complete war on the poor and typical Tory/Right wing - we are the winners and you are the losers nonsense
@martinhunt6004
@martinhunt6004 Год назад
I fully agree, unfortunately if you rely on social housing you are at their mercy!
@PP-si3mr
@PP-si3mr Год назад
Oh what hideous places and they are still around us. I think my behaviour would deteriorate if you put me in one. Ugly in and out. I wouldn't put a pet hamster in a building like that. Not that I keep hamsters but you know what I mean. Anyway why does anyone build ugly buildings. It's criminal and we all have to look at them.
@loriswafford4672
@loriswafford4672 Год назад
How awful ….
@The-J
@The-J 3 года назад
You won't get shows like this anymore. This stuff still goes on and isn't given much attention to any longer.
@klumzytung7979
@klumzytung7979 3 года назад
now they think we should be grateful for food banks
@fredzep01
@fredzep01 2 года назад
it's all down to people feeling to insula, they no longer feel like they can make a difference most people think there voice can not be heard, it's like the rabble in power now, with the parties they held while we were all in lock down doing the right thing. most people now think the government have the power to police themselves. when it should be us that tells them to go.
@CHUTNEX
@CHUTNEX 10 месяцев назад
@@klumzytung7979 'Progress' apparently. Most of these estates have now gone because the land is too valuable so they've been turned into ' property investment opportunities' for people on the other side of the world who will never set foot in the place.
@jakecavendish3470
@jakecavendish3470 10 месяцев назад
True, although in today's market those flats would command private rents of £2,500 per month without the glass in the windows
@agentcooki
@agentcooki 8 месяцев назад
No point in shows like this if it hasn't helped in 40 years
@djrichylaurence8991
@djrichylaurence8991 4 года назад
I grew up on such an estate. It really was grim. Biggest mistake was the post war idea to put people in blocks of boxes. This in itself helped start the decline of British society.
@angusmeigh5141
@angusmeigh5141 3 года назад
How come high rise flats work for the rich? How come there are so many penthouse flats in London which sell for such vast amounts of money?
@Kubulek17
@Kubulek17 Год назад
@Blue Skies Media it's not a conspiracy, look what's happening to iconic brutalist social housing blocks
@tvs9978
@tvs9978 Год назад
@Blue Skies Media allowed
@Rhian357
@Rhian357 Год назад
Oh just tickle the devils feet some more darling.
@skabbymuff111
@skabbymuff111 Год назад
​@Blue Skies Media This is absolutely spot on. It's glaringly obvious.
@radioactivepotato2068
@radioactivepotato2068 3 года назад
Remember when the news simply reported the news, and peoples opinions, in their entirety, with full context, straight from the horses mouth? Who knew such a thing would be non existent 30 years later?
@The-J
@The-J 3 года назад
💯
@delanodegenie6970
@delanodegenie6970 3 года назад
Am I the only one who laughed when the guy said 'And someone put paint it again Sam.... which doesn't help' 😂😂🙈🙈
@spokenword7264
@spokenword7264 3 года назад
“The humour of the vandals doesn’t help...” lol
@tezzingtonsir28
@tezzingtonsir28 3 года назад
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂 🤣 Brilliant
@theduchess4370
@theduchess4370 3 года назад
Omg I laughed so hard. Lol
@carpetbaggerface
@carpetbaggerface 3 года назад
Love the understatement of the guy
@maevecrowley8210
@maevecrowley8210 6 месяцев назад
No😂
@CARLIN4737
@CARLIN4737 4 года назад
Bet there was some right old tear ups in the magic flute.
@davidfelix2594
@davidfelix2594 4 года назад
I lived right next to it and it wasn't that bad, that estate was notorious for it's glue sniffers and muggers...multiple stabbings, some rapes too, there was even some nutcase who blew himself up trying to fiddle his gas meter.
@zetametallic
@zetametallic 4 года назад
@@davidfelix2594 I can tell you a similar story on the Liverpool housing estate I grew up on. My dad had a friend who was in his 70's then, fought in World War 2 and hated any kind of 'wrongdoings'. His dodgy neighbours were fiddling the electric meter and using their power shower caused it to explode in the corridor. He grassed them up😱within weeks the poor man was in the mental hospital due to their threatening behaviour. His family thought he'd die in there and sold all his furniture and started spending 'their' money. He came out to an empty flat. He did get himself back on his feet again but only about a year later he died. The dodgy crowd were already in prison by that point for other reasons. Sad, sad story.
@davidfelix2594
@davidfelix2594 4 года назад
@@zetametallic Very sad story indeed, thank for sharing buddy.
@adamdean988
@adamdean988 3 года назад
I actually got chased from a glue sniffer with a machete on Mozart when I was 13 back in 85
@crashsquad4974
@crashsquad4974 3 года назад
@@adamdean988 tf is a glue sniffer
@lisad.l5258
@lisad.l5258 3 года назад
40 plus years later and most of these estates are still standing. Disgusting
@stevieandrew9008
@stevieandrew9008 8 месяцев назад
Spot on! I was actually thinking the same!
@georginathompson3788
@georginathompson3788 3 года назад
Our family lived in one of these estates in the 80s and 90s. It was really rough and always felt dangerous. Throughout the years my parents done better and we moved on in my late teens. I was fortunate to have the chance to study, get a good job, and make a good living. Even now as a millionaire, living in a nice house, nice cars, travelling 1st/business class, etc. I always think back to those days living on the estate. It makes me thankful for everything I have, and it reminds me that I can still be happy with less. Thank you for uploading this video.
@free.palestine9296
@free.palestine9296 3 года назад
Keep it up
@georginathompson3788
@georginathompson3788 3 года назад
@@free.palestine9296 thank you 😊
@free.palestine9296
@free.palestine9296 3 года назад
@@georginathompson3788 😘😘😘
@georginathompson3788
@georginathompson3788 3 года назад
@@free.palestine9296 ❤️
@mariannevontrapp1063
@mariannevontrapp1063 3 года назад
You never forget were you came from :)
@aura6485
@aura6485 4 года назад
I used to live in Barnsbury estate and I thought that was bad. To be fair it was just a select few who made it hard for all tenants to live. I always found it funny how right next to the estate are 3 stories houses worth millions. The distinct divide between wealth and poverty is insane .
@aura6485
@aura6485 4 года назад
@@toxtethogrady6334 I heard it was pretty bad in the 90's and early 2000's. My dad told me that a new housing association bought up the estate and kicked out a bunch of tenants and refurbished each flat and stuff. But there was always someone setting the rubbish bin on fire so things didn't change all that well haha. I have a few mates who still live there and its a lot better. Less antisocial behaviour.
@GRILLZxxx
@GRILLZxxx 4 года назад
I lived on market estate too🤪
@GRILLZxxx
@GRILLZxxx 4 года назад
Toxteth O'Grady I bet I know u x
@GRILLZxxx
@GRILLZxxx 4 года назад
I lived in Southdown
@stephenryan7698
@stephenryan7698 3 года назад
I lived on the Barnsbury estate N1 there all crap and should be knocked down to make way for real houses.
@jacquelineb4375
@jacquelineb4375 3 года назад
Myself my brother & others I know were raised on a council estate...but we knew right from wrong. We all got decent jobs.
@tomthomassony8607
@tomthomassony8607 3 года назад
And no matter how many O Levels you got at school, you’re still earning less than the most laziest and stupid kid who went to Eton. The system is stacked against the hard working, working class.
@user-bu4rz6li1o
@user-bu4rz6li1o 3 года назад
Me too!!.
@toneschofield4609
@toneschofield4609 9 месяцев назад
I spent my childhood years living in terraced housing in Kentish Town, sharing with two other families, with only one lavatory and no bathroom. Of course the new estates offered better living conditions, not least having your own front door. Many of these new estates post 1960s were so badly designed, with raised walkways and underground garages; they were a disaster social breeding ground waiting to happen. The clowns who deemed such 'ghettos' fit for people to live wouldn't spend a night in these 'prisons'.
@DD-ts5oj
@DD-ts5oj 3 года назад
Hello "architects". Well done for creating these monstrosities of hopelessness & despair!!!!! You most certainly should be made to live in these bleak & dehumanising prisons as some people have suggested!!!!
@izmirurla35
@izmirurla35 Год назад
If kept in good condition, and a safe environment where you can walk about freely, they're actually cushty places to live 😂
@matthewwilliams3827
@matthewwilliams3827 3 месяца назад
Agreed, our architects and politicians all suck @ss!
@matthewwilliams3827
@matthewwilliams3827 3 месяца назад
Glad others are saying it, thought I was the only one thinking these buildings looked awful.
@TheGuvOfWythenshawe
@TheGuvOfWythenshawe 10 месяцев назад
The Stonebridge Estate reminds me of what Moss Side and Gorton, both in Manchester used to look like back in the late 1980s
@lekudos
@lekudos 4 года назад
Wow. A time before we blamed poor folk for social problems... “it must be down to the design.” the clever lady says..!
@modelangels5119
@modelangels5119 3 года назад
My dad lived near there he knew people who lived there he said they were the one of the nicest people you’ll ever know
@setapart3452
@setapart3452 3 года назад
I remember being a housing officer on this Stonebridge estate in 1989. Time has really flown by.
@tommy22b
@tommy22b 8 месяцев назад
Stonebridge estate was a no go back then. Had a friend on it and went once with him.
@GabrielA-mw4in
@GabrielA-mw4in 8 месяцев назад
Rumour has it number 29 is still waiting for a job to be repaired
@setapart3452
@setapart3452 8 месяцев назад
@@GabrielA-mw4in I gave you the job in 1989 but you invoiced for the job but did not complete it. Just cant get the contractors.
@studas2011
@studas2011 7 месяцев назад
I grew up in a large council estate in SW London to which I return regularly because my mum still lives there. Although I have some very fond memories of growing up there, I cannot deny that it was a hard place to live. It still is; when I return I am shocked at the scale and type of noise in the block. Almost every time I am there there is loud hammering and banging, people shouting outside, general anti-social sounds and knocks. I have also noticed that there are many more third-world people in the estate now. However, they are not solely to blame for the noise and bad behaviour; indeed, many of the people I observe causing problems appear to be English. Although I have nostalgic and sentimental reasons to defend the estate I grew up on, I have to admit that when approaching the subject objectively, it was (and appears to presently be, worse even) a bad place to live.
@Hashterix
@Hashterix 3 года назад
At least they spoke factually back then, the architecture affects behaviour and what can be done to improve it. If these reports had been created today it would be "look at these poor victims who are vandalising, and it's all because of racism and not enough taxpayer money being spent on them".
@thomasgrey6309
@thomasgrey6309 4 года назад
Ah... The council estates of the late 70's and 1980's.. a vivid reminder as to why my family emigrated. Strangely tho, I still call Hackney home no matter where or how far I've roamed..
@samjones6258
@samjones6258 3 года назад
Most of those concrete pre-fab built estates have thankfully been demolished now and Hackney has become very Gentrified...trendy...and bloody expensive!
@ellismeah5127
@ellismeah5127 3 года назад
Probably a very different place to what you remembered
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 6 месяцев назад
Where did they emigrate to,my friend?
@jacqueshughes3085
@jacqueshughes3085 2 года назад
I lived on White City Estate and it was damned luxury compared to Stonebridge Park.
@loloinhd
@loloinhd 3 года назад
Social housing shouldn’t mean packing people in like sardines when there is money available to build decent housing. Governments always seem to find money for military and war but will stutter and flounder when it comes to providing decent social housing. These places are not free, I bet in London on these estates many people are paying more in rent than many people across the country pay on their mortgages !!!!
@jaomwtoptd
@jaomwtoptd 9 месяцев назад
I was born (1952) and grew up on a council estate near Russell Square, WC1. I loved it. We knew all the neighbours and lots of kids to play with. Central London Council estates are like ghost towns now. The flat I was born in is now half a million pounds to buy. All the kids are gone. The estate is populated by business people 😢.
@southernplaya
@southernplaya 4 года назад
Ronan point was demolished strategically, i.e it wasn't demolished by use of explosives, instead it was taken apart almost like a jigsaw. The structural engineers were shocked by the amount of defects, stating that if the building had been around for another year it would have been destroyed by winds alone 0.o
@sutherlandA1
@sutherlandA1 3 года назад
By the great storm of October 1987 to be precise
@Trilleons
@Trilleons 15 дней назад
My GREAT nan who passed late last year was in this video. She was such a wonderful woman and it's such a shame I didn't get enough time with her, but listening to the stories of this area she and our family spoke about and how so many people adapted to living in these places is crazy and makes me beyond grateful my generation has things so easy compared to how things used to be.
@deathgripjohn8921
@deathgripjohn8921 6 лет назад
Thanks for the great upload, really enjoyed this!
@joannalee5669
@joannalee5669 2 года назад
Large estates like this with no defensible space are a dreadful social experiment. On the same amount of land it would be better to build terraced houses with front and back gardens as well as some with 2 or 3 flats for people with no children. This would create a much better environment for everyone.
@earlbee3196
@earlbee3196 9 месяцев назад
Spot on.
@celebratingandover6135
@celebratingandover6135 4 года назад
My concern is that our upcoming generations will have no stake in society. A combination of crippling student debts, spiralling rent and house prices, unstable low paid ‘gig economy’ jobs all give many youngsters little opportunity to get on. We are creating entire generations with nothing to lose and that is dangerous for all of us.
@kkunleashed7991
@kkunleashed7991 2 года назад
I'm part of that Generation and I actually see it as more of an opportunity than anything else. If the millennials were really smart about it. We would let the system collapse and then rebuild it from scratch. Rebuilding a better society out of rubble is ironically easier than reforming a broken system thats being artificially propped up
@earlbee3196
@earlbee3196 9 месяцев назад
Interesting.
@theresapierce3934
@theresapierce3934 4 года назад
The architects and designers of these crap estates live in houses on roads, with lovely front and back gardens. They should all be forced to live in one of these shitty flats for a year. Then let's see if they still think it's still so wonderful.
@ahippy8972
@ahippy8972 3 года назад
Exactly this.
@peterdauda3351
@peterdauda3351 3 года назад
It's called brutalist architecture.
@movingup2118
@movingup2118 3 года назад
I have always said this.
@jjperera3389
@jjperera3389 3 года назад
the problem is that you did not have a font or back garden...... no it’s the people usually parents not taking appropriate measures to raise there children, get given a flat for pennies and let’s now complain and garden space
@jimjiminyjaroo300
@jimjiminyjaroo300 3 года назад
You know, I’d love one of these “shitty flats” as you call them. A marked improvement on what I currently have.
@williamsulman2646
@williamsulman2646 3 года назад
At least London had a soul then, it's a lot worse now
@Hashterix
@Hashterix 3 года назад
The teen vandals of these reports are now the ones in their 40s and 50s who are running things and voting for the likes of Khan.
@Sha-El
@Sha-El 3 года назад
Soul lol
@BJ-zd2or
@BJ-zd2or 3 года назад
It was a struggle back then looking back even the north, I think we are thinking of the music and films that in some form gave an escape or our understanding which reflects what people felt then. If you look at the images of homeless people or people that didnt know where to turn to. The counter arguments seem in response with slander or condescending sentiment. I watched visual polika showing west german spending much on infrastructure in east germany and many in the west resented or dislike east, no matter if they struggle or not and haven't got the same infrastructure as the west. There is always comparison, there is always sentiment and there is alway divisions. We have soul but more or less wherever we are positioned. It's only ourselfs that tell how it is with our inter experience from the rest.
@stevenlijertwood7450
@stevenlijertwood7450 3 года назад
Ladbroke grove and Mozart, had a great community in the 1980s, I was part of it lol
@j_c2225
@j_c2225 3 года назад
These estates are crawling with chavs and drug dealers now
@powpunkonwhiskey6377
@powpunkonwhiskey6377 4 года назад
I grew up in these kind of estates around South London. I had a great youth with friends all living so close but yes, totally deprived, dangerous and depressing to look at. Edit, the family of four who died in the fire, just awful. Rip.
@Rhian357
@Rhian357 Год назад
RIP
@Rhian357
@Rhian357 Год назад
You've done well then, you can punk on whiskey. Going cheap now or 'you've made it to millionaire row' Drinks on you I guess.
@truetalksnomatterwhat6451
@truetalksnomatterwhat6451 8 месяцев назад
The community spirit was brilliant.. playing games like knock down ginger. I grew up on the Aylesbury Estate SE17 . Loved it every one knew each other. Now I live in Clapham Common pretty well off people no one even says hello. It's shocking money definitely doesn't buy manners and community spirit
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 6 месяцев назад
@@truetalksnomatterwhat6451 I lived over East Lane Market for my first 29 years until 1983 when I made the ud=sual move to this house in Bexley in 1983.
@g1234567890rajo
@g1234567890rajo 4 года назад
In the past 5 years, I've lived on council estates in Somers Town, Camden and Archway. Never had any massive issues, although mice were rife in Somers town.
@tormon506
@tormon506 4 года назад
I've moved into my first council flat in Scotland. It is accused to be a "rough" area. Never been happier, we have no issues, kids are doing great at school and yes, sometimes we do see anti-social behaviour, but that's literally unrelated to us. Some drunk person out in the street isn't going to spoil my entire life. And focusing on just that would spoil it. Most people here are good people, with small kids, working hard. And I mean HARD, physically and emotionally demanding work such as factory jobs, care jobs or at the local College.
@jneal21
@jneal21 4 года назад
James Lol why would u move to s council estate that sounds yuppy
@g1234567890rajo
@g1234567890rajo 4 года назад
@@jneal21Joe Lol my observation was about having no issues on London council estates. I live in house shares, tough times.
@UnseenSpirit
@UnseenSpirit 4 года назад
Grown up on estates my whole life. There are elements where I have had good and bad because of it, but it's moulded me into who I am.
@toriladybird511
@toriladybird511 4 года назад
I lived in the Portsmouth version of Sommers Town rough then and still now! And they rebuilt where I lived!
@hoodasabbah1878
@hoodasabbah1878 8 месяцев назад
I have the best memories of growing up in a council estate in the 1980s and 90s, west london in w2 ans w9. When we moved to another estate very close to south kilburn i remember thinking it was way more rough, helicopters flashing lights into flats in the blocks was a routine. Halloween was always crazy as well, and guy falwes! And carnival was always a a highlight in our area, great memories ❤
@jackcutler9096
@jackcutler9096 3 года назад
I dread to think what beautiful buildings were demolished and replaced by these estate monstrosities
@tayachting6345
@tayachting6345 3 года назад
Chilling, to say the least.
@outsidersongs2682
@outsidersongs2682 Год назад
That fire was heartbreaking. I hope those who tried to help were able to recover from the trauma of it.
@waynejaxxon-hirst5034
@waynejaxxon-hirst5034 3 года назад
excellent compilation
@geordie-drywall
@geordie-drywall 5 лет назад
I know these massive estates were a solution to lack of housing but I live in New Zealand now and they do it sooo different. Public housing homes are not all clumped together they're in amongst privately owned property's and I think it has a good psychological effect on people that are given them you know
@PositiveOverNegative666
@PositiveOverNegative666 5 лет назад
I agree 100% ....council estates/ projects, group low-income (sometimes no-income) families together then wonder why those areas have so much trouble
@unknownfrvr6767
@unknownfrvr6767 4 года назад
Geordie Kev your council estates aren't plagued with drugs and murder tho
@robertomoi2044
@robertomoi2044 4 года назад
Its exactly the same in UK too. Every private estate has to have a section of social housing. That's really no better when you have £400k house next to a clump of drug taking scum
@jimmyskyblue6057
@jimmyskyblue6057 4 года назад
There’s a lot less people in New Zealand, 4 million or so, there’s 8 million in London alone, and it’s a bigger country.
@MN-mc8ik
@MN-mc8ik 4 года назад
@@robertomoi2044 to be fair most of the lads in my law firm are coke heads and we all got decent houses in zone 2😂😂
@truetalksnomatterwhat6451
@truetalksnomatterwhat6451 8 месяцев назад
I grew up on the Aylesbury Estate and yes there was extreme poverty but as a child I loved it. Every one knew each other and it was a community. I was always safe as I knew someone knew my parents so if misbehaving I would get a slap there and another when I got home. Also there was always someone at hand if you needed help. So many people from my estate are now very successful. Giggs , Rio ferdinand, Jason Ewell just to name a few. With the right guidance any bad situation can be fuel for success but we know with social engineering as it is people are setup to fail
@tommy22b
@tommy22b 8 месяцев назад
Same, growing up on an estate was amazing as a kid. You knew everyone and we looked out for each other.
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 6 месяцев назад
I lived in Faraday Street near Michael Faraday Primary and they knocked all our surrounding terraces down to build The Aylesbury and Hetgate and, luckily, moved us over the market at THe Walworth Road End of East Street/East Lane. It was a great 29 years until I made the usual move to the Bexley area to this same house 40 years ago, in 1983, and at 69 I still go back every week. Millwall on Boxing Day, for example.
@silentkilla14
@silentkilla14 3 года назад
We use to live in tower hamlets when I was young ... luckily we where given a house on commercial road with three floors since we had a big family... the area was dirty and scummy full of crime... we moved away and mistake my parents made was not buying the house from the council since few years later they turned the area into a nice clean place with new constructions etc...
@tayachting6345
@tayachting6345 3 года назад
"given a house?"
@Spectrescup
@Spectrescup 3 года назад
@@tayachting6345 this concept is unfamiliar to you?
@tayachting6345
@tayachting6345 3 года назад
@@Spectrescup Oh trust me, I'm familiar with it.
@grega.2755
@grega.2755 Год назад
​@@Spectrescup it is to me as a someone who grew up in the US. Your "poor" are a joke
@KG-du8dt
@KG-du8dt 3 года назад
Ferrier estate was lethal but it’s knocked down with all new builds. Tbh I still feel the bad energy there
@MancstaSam
@MancstaSam 7 лет назад
in hindsight the squatters were right telling the official tennants their days were numbered and would soon loose their flats too.. the poor council tennants of the 1980s were mostly totally oblivious to the real agenda of mass demolition and social cleansing the not so far future held..
@nudaveritas9738
@nudaveritas9738 6 лет назад
BrexitCub 38 j
@joanne4594
@joanne4594 6 лет назад
BrexitCub 38 absolutely bang on. I see the face of London changing and the underhand agenda.
@classicartfoundation639
@classicartfoundation639 5 лет назад
@@joanne4594 is this the new order the cunts in charge are preparing?
@fredgalaxy7632
@fredgalaxy7632 3 года назад
Just let people live. The council house occupiers will be replaced once they die or reach old age; placed in care homes.
@JaySamurai79
@JaySamurai79 Год назад
I remember my mate lived in Peckham estates. I would walk from old kent road which is where I lived across Burges Park to go see him. There was always something going on lol
@francescapowell1538
@francescapowell1538 3 года назад
That woman is smiling about the rent increase. Didn’t hide how she was thinking and feeling at all.
@stevenlijertwood7450
@stevenlijertwood7450 3 года назад
I noticed that, you have one artist practising his skill on his block where he lives..... to brighten up the place! But will cost alot of money to remove, so the whole estate suffers with rent increase. She looked so happy
@jacqueshughes3085
@jacqueshughes3085 2 года назад
Back in the 1960s Labour looked to the future with socialist ideals and the huge estates in Moscow were a great example of community living. Unfortunately, things never turned out as planned - cheap concrete high rise blocks were not the answer. Nearly all of them now condemned or dangerous. Re-cladding them was obviously not the answer either. The governments now need to think about building more estates / affordable housing, but build them in a town/village way, so that people can live healthily and as neighbours.
@georginaohara42
@georginaohara42 9 месяцев назад
Sending prayers of strength & healing to Ruth 🙏🏻🫶in 2023.
@Supadan75
@Supadan75 4 года назад
Some of those estates man, shocking!
@stretch.s8944
@stretch.s8944 4 года назад
No one even speaking on Stonebridge est, probably got the mic robbed.
@BoSSLeVeLs
@BoSSLeVeLs 4 года назад
stretch .s 😂Bridge a special place
@stretch.s8944
@stretch.s8944 4 года назад
@@BoSSLeVeLs Tell me about it, born and bred, lived there for 20 years.
@MrSofakinggreat
@MrSofakinggreat 4 года назад
Me & a few school friends climbed onto the roof of one of the blocks in the mid 1980's.
@brokenbritain1930
@brokenbritain1930 4 года назад
stretch .s does it even exsist anymore?
@stretch.s8944
@stretch.s8944 4 года назад
@@brokenbritain1930 Got knocked down years ago, felt a bit sad when it went, had good times there growing up, then I thought of the bad times. Shithole.
@tiffanyscott4101
@tiffanyscott4101 4 года назад
So happy I bought a house back then 2 bedroom house for 30k. Now I'm 33 renting the house out for 2k a month and bought 2 more houses outside london. Currently in mexico enjoying life
@leegraves8878
@leegraves8878 4 года назад
How Mexico is very dangerous?
@tiffanyscott4101
@tiffanyscott4101 4 года назад
@@leegraves8878 I'm not in mexico
@leegraves8878
@leegraves8878 4 года назад
@@tiffanyscott4101 "Currently in mexico enjoying life" It's in your post.
@tiffanyscott4101
@tiffanyscott4101 4 года назад
graves nah I'm in san pedro beside mexico. Temporary
@ellielondon7472
@ellielondon7472 4 года назад
Good Girl
@bodyloverz30
@bodyloverz30 3 года назад
Some of this brutalist Cubism, looks like Soviet Russia!
@tom7204
@tom7204 3 года назад
Part of me wonders if it's somewhat intentional. Brutalist Cubism definitely has a habit of demoralizing the population of those who live in or amongst its architecture. Who could be proud of this? The poverty-stricken areas of the United Kingdom, Russia and most Eastern European countries look one and the same. Probably have matching crime rates aswell. Similar dull weather too, though that's just by coincidence.
@bodyloverz30
@bodyloverz30 3 года назад
@@tom7204 There are so many 60's era buildings, which have the same look: it was a bleak time for industrial design.
@leonarddavies288
@leonarddavies288 2 года назад
Soviet union looks nicer
@areyouawake-2532
@areyouawake-2532 2 года назад
@@tom7204 it's all done by design!! like lies on tv
@douglasbatley1907
@douglasbatley1907 2 года назад
@@leonarddavies288 Not for much longer.
@493HZ
@493HZ 5 лет назад
Putting a pub on a estate is so funny lol. Roundshaw estate in Croydon done this and that pub was a madness, had to be shut down.
@whangie1
@whangie1 4 года назад
JoshuaM I went to a pub on an estate in Glasgow (Red Road Estate, which was a monument to Marx) and when they heard my English voice I was glassed then beaten up. They really are savages up there.
@samnicholson5051
@samnicholson5051 4 года назад
So where do the non violent people in the estate go to socialise?
@radicaledwards3449
@radicaledwards3449 4 года назад
@@markdowling5962 I wonder if 'Acton Gardens' will have any!!
@vedametatron
@vedametatron 4 года назад
Ok what I’m getting from the language is they put bars ‘pubs’ in the projects ‘council estates “ is simply idiotic .a project with a bar attached to it in the untied states would never happen no matter what state you put it in it would become a shooting gallery nightly .
@deechonada
@deechonada 4 года назад
Is that the one by Wilsons? I lived on Stafford road
@marychristmas4911
@marychristmas4911 Год назад
I never understand why people who don't have much wreck what little they have.
@user-mf5ue6rc5n
@user-mf5ue6rc5n 10 месяцев назад
cause you try and live in that gulag camp
@seansmith445
@seansmith445 9 месяцев назад
Some people are just scum. I would let them live in tents.
@wc2512
@wc2512 4 года назад
We had a similar situation in Hulme, Greater Manchester where the new Labour government of 1945 built mass council homes including the new Hulme Crescents which were modelled on the Georgian crescents in Bath only to discover that the target tennents in Hulme were not the sort of people who used the Georgian cresents in Bath. The existing terraced houses were destroyed which disrupted the street pattern and walkways were not patrolled by Police making them hotspots for vandals and antisocial behaviour.. The Hulme Crescents were later destroyed under the Conservatives City Challenge scheme in the 1990's and the area looks more welcoming and attractive to pass through. It also restored some of the old buildings (where possible) and the street layout including the Hulme Arch and created opportunities, jobs and education for local people.
@ynatz187
@ynatz187 3 года назад
Hulmes still a shithole no matter what they do with the housing🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MsPeabody1231
@MsPeabody1231 Год назад
They moved out loads of local people. I knew graduates who brought houses there in the 1990s who then moved away within 5 years. Their neighbours were people who were not local to Hulme.
@insertnamehere5146
@insertnamehere5146 3 года назад
Brutal tower blocks designed by people never intending to live there. Built by workers on piece work cutting corners and only looking forward to their next large pay packet. The inspectors didn't care about them either. The tower blocks turned people into swine who acted accordingly.
@londonparticulars2968
@londonparticulars2968 2 года назад
spot on
@thewatcheronthewall8532
@thewatcheronthewall8532 Год назад
Well said
@darrincassidy9045
@darrincassidy9045 Год назад
Chav factory
@llll309
@llll309 Год назад
That poor girl losing her whole family is so sad, good on the man for saving her and the other man 🙏
@73295
@73295 4 года назад
As a kid lived on the Marquess 1980-82 happy times, Mull Walk forever! .
@didwest1249
@didwest1249 3 года назад
Alot of it gone now and all packington
@jackincorporated8480
@jackincorporated8480 6 лет назад
Post modern dehumanising and deliberate.
@CARLIN4737
@CARLIN4737 4 года назад
Yep
@haworthluke
@haworthluke 4 года назад
It's time we learned and invested in the prevention of the socio-economic circumstances that breed this type of behaviour instead of blaming individuals or minorities. Education is key
@lucybunwa5833
@lucybunwa5833 3 года назад
exactly!!
@MrPabsUk
@MrPabsUk Год назад
Exactly, theres so many reasons we`ve got to where we are, too many blinkered people just point fingers at one or two things, its ridiculous, theres SO many reasons.
@TheRealMike1976
@TheRealMike1976 5 лет назад
37:12 that girl predicted the future
@andrewdaley3081
@andrewdaley3081 4 года назад
A wise woman. Andy England 🇬🇧
@shakeelk1556
@shakeelk1556 4 года назад
Today London has become good for the super rich and even worse for everyone else. Outside London you might as well be in an eastern block country. And yet we're told this is one of the wealthiest countries in the world?
@celebratingandover6135
@celebratingandover6135 4 года назад
Shakeel K It is extremely wealthy for the .1%. I find that the wealthier a country is, the poorer the majority of the population are 😞
@lucybunwa5833
@lucybunwa5833 3 года назад
exactly
@klumzytung7979
@klumzytung7979 3 года назад
@@lucybunwa5833 And yet the Tories just got voted in again... what more to say?
@mayena
@mayena 4 года назад
Most of these social housing estates weren't thoroughly thought out in design and construction.
@eibhlinnichrualoai
@eibhlinnichrualoai 9 месяцев назад
Grew up in Woodbury Down MH loved it ❤
@gentillydanny
@gentillydanny 3 года назад
All this indicates colossal corruption by contractors responsible for the construction of these estates.
@mitchellgiffard1978
@mitchellgiffard1978 4 года назад
Now I don't even recognise most estates now in Hackney anymore especially round Hoxton & Clapton as all these modernize blocks are there that don't even suit the area from top to bottom & taking something away that estate once use to be even from the late 1990s.
@samjones6258
@samjones6258 3 года назад
Yep Hackney has really changed a lot. But let's not look back through rose tinted glasses....it was a dump and needed drastic change!
@MissLondon.born.1965
@MissLondon.born.1965 3 года назад
I used to hang out here in 1977 ,My Aunt Lived on the Westbourne Est ,I lived on the Lisson Green Est
@totalrecall2.030
@totalrecall2.030 Год назад
26:00 is Carey Gardens , in Patmore . That estate is on Wandsworth Road 💯
@Andrew_Tate_Personal
@Andrew_Tate_Personal Год назад
I grew up on a council estate called worlds ends estate in SW10 postcode back in the 1980s. I now suffer from deep depression and don’t leave my flat. All my old mates are either dead or in prison or suffering serious mental health conditions. It was all laughs back then, now it’s only tears … I want to die
@izmirurla35
@izmirurla35 Год назад
I'd happily do a flat swap. I heard world's end has been pretty calm over the past 15 or so years
@1111sage
@1111sage 10 месяцев назад
Oh sweetheart I'm so sorry your feeling like this 😢 please try to get help and talk to someone 💗 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@DeniseCaribbeanKitchen
@DeniseCaribbeanKitchen 8 месяцев назад
You are here for a good purpose get out n get help don’t kill your self 🌹
@KlirrenDieFahnen
@KlirrenDieFahnen 5 лет назад
What a depressing footage. Good social housing projects can be done, just not the way it is done in the UK. Everyone lumped together in dystopic architecture that seems designed to support the worst possible behaviour and prevent any social cohesion or even a semblance of homeliness.
@rainyfeathers9148
@rainyfeathers9148 4 года назад
The key word is 'project'. That never boads well at the best of times.
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 3 года назад
People have turned into mongrels. Coloured influences have trashed community.
@ahippy8972
@ahippy8972 3 года назад
Hilarious! I helped people for the last 45 years to get out of social housing in England and never once found a successful non gang non criminal estate. You pile families on top of each other you get trouble
@ahippy8972
@ahippy8972 3 года назад
We,come to a time when Britain ran itself. This was pre Europe England it was a hole
@movingup2118
@movingup2118 3 года назад
Stop putting hooligan families in good places. They should evict the parents of the kids doing this.
@at9370
@at9370 6 лет назад
Where's Delboy?
@elizabethsheffield6609
@elizabethsheffield6609 6 лет назад
no....he's not, is he?
@THELONDONCHANNEL
@THELONDONCHANNEL 6 лет назад
He’s changed his name to frost and now works as a crime investigator , but we no his back ground ... we no.
@anonUK
@anonUK 6 лет назад
shinukism shnuck No faecal matter Mr Holmes.
@beavis4763
@beavis4763 6 лет назад
Down the market trying to sell 6 fingered gloves and cups with the handle on the inside.
@jackthelad1116
@jackthelad1116 5 лет назад
Grabbing the suitcase from the van
@shirohilight1502
@shirohilight1502 3 года назад
I use to live in one of those flats in Peckham when I was a kid, the place just reminds me of a prison and it doesnt feel nice living there. Was very happy when my parents managed to buy a house in Greenwich
@returnofthegmac9203
@returnofthegmac9203 3 года назад
So did I we moved in 1982 I believe it's no longer there. Do you remember the Adventure playground?
@leonldn1
@leonldn1 3 года назад
Main greenwich has always been nice but the rest of the borough not so much
@MrStreetboy80
@MrStreetboy80 6 лет назад
Still goes on to this day, and now council are running out of properties private estates are getting wrecked. I feel its a waste of time me working to pay for my property when people are getting the same property's for nothing and wrecking the place. My neighbours have just left thank god but wreck the place while they was here. I never worked and dossed around it the estate all day!
@dav01kar
@dav01kar 10 месяцев назад
Imo the architects that design these monstrosities should be made to live in them
@spitfire4206
@spitfire4206 6 лет назад
3% cut in rent you are living in a dream world
@sean-ux6tu
@sean-ux6tu 4 года назад
Lmfao exactly what I was thinking
@celebratingandover6135
@celebratingandover6135 4 года назад
More like a 3% increase for ‘improving the area.’
@Janlnz
@Janlnz 6 лет назад
One thing I have noticed in these videos is the lack of commercial goods left as rubbish. No money in the 60's-90's for such useless imported trash..
@ironboard6
@ironboard6 6 лет назад
34:04 was he talking about his hair loss
@shirohilight1502
@shirohilight1502 3 года назад
lol
@rg6982
@rg6982 3 года назад
The government families deserve to stay and live in a council estate for atleast 2 years of their life. They are monsters for creating something like that
@minixtvbox
@minixtvbox 10 месяцев назад
20 years every Tory scum voter
@kevinwoplin9322
@kevinwoplin9322 9 месяцев назад
I grew up on the Doddington....we moved in 1972 ....it was grim from the get go
@MAX-tw3qz
@MAX-tw3qz 3 года назад
I've lived on a dysfunctional estate and my neighbours were barking mad, irresponsible and idiotic. They all need to look a lot closer to home as to why they live in a veritable hell.
@philipalmond6908
@philipalmond6908 2 года назад
It’s good to hear about your experience I am a big believer in social housing and the idear of the council estate,I was looky enough to buy my frist house on a cooperation housing estate. Who’s going to replace theses amazing delights.
@swiftlydoesit8480
@swiftlydoesit8480 7 лет назад
@ 26:02 That is not Clapham Park Estate in Clapham. That's the Carey Gardens Estate in South Lambeth/North Battersea. Does anyone know the year? Looks like early 90s.
@shhcold8022
@shhcold8022 7 лет назад
swiftlydoesit stfu is Clapham
@swiftlydoesit8480
@swiftlydoesit8480 7 лет назад
Ben Makaveli. You shut up you doughnut! I live near that area and know those streets like the back of my hand. 😂
@grahamjonathan762
@grahamjonathan762 5 лет назад
@@shhcold8022 It's Wandsworth Road numbnuts
@ellielondon7472
@ellielondon7472 4 года назад
@@grahamjonathan762 Lol
@annhollowell5352
@annhollowell5352 3 года назад
I used to live on Clapham Park Estate. Bennet House' Headlam Rd. What a shithole !!. Got my kids away from there in 91. Live in Surrey now ' heaven !!.
@hc2155
@hc2155 3 года назад
25:57 That's Carey Gardens in Battersea/Clapham Junction in the borough of Wandsworth, not the Clapham Park Estate in the borough of Lambeth.
@regkray
@regkray Год назад
The reporter didn't know where he was. Call it Battersea or Stockwell but Clapham it ain't.
@hc2155
@hc2155 Год назад
@@regkray Stockwell is still controversial but yh not incorrect
@wokingjames
@wokingjames 4 месяца назад
This is way more interesting than I expected it to be
@buttonmoon1978
@buttonmoon1978 8 месяцев назад
God how depressing were these estates. I thought I had it bad growing up as a kid in the 80's on a housing estate in Harold Hill, Essex.
@luinpuin4152
@luinpuin4152 3 года назад
Putting struggling people together in terrible concrete bloks is asking for trouble. This is what we are still dealing with 40 years later all over the world. Putt them away and it will solve itselfs. I work in social services in the Netherlands and it is the same here.
@coolinism
@coolinism 4 года назад
I used to knock about the Mozart in the early 90s
@James-gi2we
@James-gi2we 4 года назад
27:35 pure nostalgia, take me home ☺️
@Nine5Vader
@Nine5Vader 3 года назад
I use to live at my Dads back in the day when Stonebridge still had the high-rise flats we're still up
@CIMAmotor
@CIMAmotor 4 года назад
I grew up in an East London council tower block estate, good people, great times.
@tormon506
@tormon506 4 года назад
I grew in high-rise housing association flats in East Berlin. Same. Great time, great people, awesome school. Good future prospects. I'm in Scotland now, also in a Council Estate, just as happy, working hard, kids doing good. Media should stop putting ordinary people and their housing situations down.
@paulmcdonough1093
@paulmcdonough1093 4 года назад
shit west ham team though
@elliotsnook7092
@elliotsnook7092 4 года назад
I grew up in one in Bow. It was total fucking shite.
@vladimirtrump3326
@vladimirtrump3326 4 года назад
Milllllllll
@CIMAmotor
@CIMAmotor 4 года назад
@@vladimirtrump3326 Hooouuusssse
@jacquelineb4375
@jacquelineb4375 3 года назад
So many council flats now have been knocked down now in order to build private properties. I mean hospitals were shut down & turned into swanky apartments or houses. Crime in the UK has definitely not reduced though, that is a fact.
@tayachting6345
@tayachting6345 3 года назад
True, the victims are arrested for trying to defend themselves. The perpetrators get a nice big payout and a pity party
@hc2155
@hc2155 2 года назад
Crime has increased.
@Ineedyoulou
@Ineedyoulou Год назад
Brought up in Holborn in the 70s 80s can't really say a bad word about it.. youth clubs & Coram's fields on our doorstep. Best days ever
@MsPeabody1231
@MsPeabody1231 Год назад
My daughter goes to the nursery in Coram Fields. The kids parents are a mixture of people who work nearby like her father or the few poorer people who live in social housing.
@Ineedyoulou
@Ineedyoulou Год назад
@@MsPeabody1231 Everyone I know has moved away in the late 80s-90s or have passed away. I lived in Orde Hall Street just off great Ormand Street but growing up was absolutely fantastic, great friends & excellent times. Not been that way in so many years now.
@MD_ENTERTAINMENT
@MD_ENTERTAINMENT 3 года назад
Wow very interesting stuff
@MusicalArmageddon
@MusicalArmageddon Год назад
My right ear enjoyed this.
@infinitesimotel
@infinitesimotel Год назад
My left did, one of us must have the channels swapped.
@totallypixelated
@totallypixelated 4 месяца назад
Yes your stereo is correct. Some other weird stuff going on with the audio mix too. @@infinitesimotel
@villainous7255
@villainous7255 4 года назад
It's 2019 almost 2020 and the same type of buildings & areas still exist.
@TpXThinner
@TpXThinner 4 года назад
Estates aren't anywhere as desolate as they were in the 80s. Still plenty of crime of course, but far less poverty.
@theofficialcosworthracingt8987
@theofficialcosworthracingt8987 4 года назад
TpX Thinnr not exactly, in the eyes of the government it may be high poverty, but with a lot of the drug dealers hiding their money and keeping it in traceable, the poverty isn’t that bad
@theofficialcosworthracingt8987
@theofficialcosworthracingt8987 4 года назад
mr mike depends on where you live really, i live across the road from pepys estate and they are slowly destroying it, it started with aragon tower , then marine wharf and now the timberyard, deptford is slowly turning into like a new Canary Wharf
@theofficialcosworthracingt8987
@theofficialcosworthracingt8987 4 года назад
mr mike in my area it’s quite different, if you can snag rent before the flats are bought out by the rich it’s like 200 pw for a 3 bed, my flat is a 2 bed, built in 2008, 160 a week, and it’s private aswell
@crashsquad4974
@crashsquad4974 3 года назад
@@theofficialcosworthracingt8987 so they get the houses for free how bc if they have no job they are making illegal drug money I’m confused can u explain
@djr8227
@djr8227 9 месяцев назад
‘Paint it again Sam’ 😂 Makes me miss the criminals of yesteryear.
@THE.MARQUESS
@THE.MARQUESS 3 года назад
Live on the marquess 70s 80s great place to Grow up loved it there
@whitedove1579
@whitedove1579 4 года назад
This is all very grim viewing but i cant help thinking that i'm watching an episode of Brass Eye. The early 90s era and the tone is very reminiscent of the spoof comedy.
@maramilas1975
@maramilas1975 3 года назад
Very sad and gloomy, Here in Australia they realised this dense public housing is the reason . Now it is very different. Except for the high rise eyesore, which has been slow to dismantle.
@MrPabsUk
@MrPabsUk Год назад
Thing is, theres 9 million people crammed into a 25 mile circle, which is quite different to Australian cities.
@paulbutler7291
@paulbutler7291 4 года назад
Queen Elizabeth square in the Gorbals had three blocks a. b .c This became Alcatraz . Barlinnie. And Carstairs
@robertt4176
@robertt4176 2 месяца назад
I grew up off the Harrow Rd in the late 70’s early 80’s Mozart was a no go area
@medusa301
@medusa301 3 года назад
These crap holes are now being sold for 300K £
@boxergirl84
@boxergirl84 3 года назад
Yep
@williamsulman2646
@williamsulman2646 3 года назад
And the rest, I worked on the refubishment of trelik tower in tower Hamlets apparently done up they are worth 800 grand
@Stoic-ds4so
@Stoic-ds4so 4 года назад
13:25 - "Children as young as 5 are being blamed." 😳💀💀 . . . WHAT?!?!?! 😭
@KarmasAbutch
@KarmasAbutch 4 года назад
I was smoking by age 6... parents too busy coping have no way to “balance” that with actually parenting, then it just becomes the new norm. Horrific childhood i had... but so did every poor cunt my age around me.
@BillyJango
@BillyJango Год назад
25:08 Wasn't that bit used on the beginning of The Specials Ghost Town video?😆
@emmaathome2902
@emmaathome2902 3 года назад
Chalkhill! Brought up not far from there, then lived there for 12 years. Never ever had a problem, the problem was cars being dumped there, little gangsta boys coming in from Harlesden etc to start trouble. My bit was enclosed in the 80s and cut off from other blocks, was really nice. The flats themselves were big and well maintained. Don’t believe ALL you hear on the news about these estates.
@nickycotton6137
@nickycotton6137 2 года назад
Aye, tbf mates, associates & certain relatives have lived in some Pukka 'Council Flats'. Secure aswell + they get any maintenance/repairs done free. Also vandalism has sod all to do with "Boredom"!!! There's plenty of Parks around here let alone support. It's the Tennants + irresponsible people having too many kids they can't afford (let alone Drug Dealers).. Should be grateful they've a roof over head.
@iaindcosta
@iaindcosta 8 месяцев назад
What! Chalkhill was rough if you were Asian! The NF used to throw little girls off the balconies to their deaths
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