London's unfinished motorways 

yeah I thought this was new wtf

Yo same

so? windows 7 was out for 2 years, vista for 5 years.

@@azure2130 you underestimate how popular windows xp was. The only thing that could kill it was Microsoft themselves

Wait it’s that old? fuck

I think his videos aged so well because he used documentary style and no references that would age within a month

Your PFP gives off 2009 energy.

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@@kittyshippercavegirl wtf are you on about

@@jttg the original comment posting person has the name caramelldansen so I posted caramelldansen

Had to use it once whilst going to buy a car. Fucking dreadful road. Actually makes me glad I live in South London.

Evil road 😂

As a former south Londoner now in the northwest, I personally like having these major urban roads such as the NCR and A40 Westway that take pressure off the other local roads. And if you drive the North Circular just once or twice you get used to it 😉

i live basically right near the north circular and it acts as a divider that semperates us from the north and centeral of the area we live in,it is convient for national travels and gets us around north london quickly

You should also check out auto shenanigans 😂

Aw, thanks Mr Mustard. :)

@@JayForeman do you check comments on 11 year old videos? Wow.

@@thejgamer0855 unless I’m mistaken I think RU-vid sends notifications so it doesn’t matter when the video is published. Still cool if Jay to reply anyway though

@@TomGibson. ah i see

​@@TomGibson.They probably have it turned off tho, or their phone would be better called "vibrator"

Me too

9:48

West hampstead is pretty nice actually tbh

first time I found this, that got me for a good three minutes

Now I'm sure that if you did one, you wouldn't do the other.

@Human Resources not sure if you're joking or if you're serious

its funny cause ive never been to lodon but watching these videos my city of La Paz, Bolivia definitely has very 70/80s london vibe

@Human Resources Grade (A) for this Journalism

A Grade A Under Achiever!

Child labour building roads.... nice

Cool story, also, turg

@@philthornton1382 People started working at that age back then, not really anything to get worked up about now lol

@@leDespicable I’m well aware and wasn’t worked up about it 😂

@@philthornton1382 My apologies then, recognising that with text is a bit tricky lol

that's a rather interesting way to put it

Victoria Fleuty nah, he is providing a good service and educating people, so I’d think more Chaotic good

@@stolasish1184 ....r/whoosh

You mean chaotic natural, with flair!

As a chaotic neutral, I approve of this

Man, but this is awesome!!

then you haven't seen lindybeige

@@SwollenHero yes I have. Fair point.

oh yes

English!

"In fact, very few people on the face of the planet know that the very shape of the M25 forms the sigh odegra in the language of the Black Priesthood of Ancient Mu, and means “Hail the Great Beast, Devourer of Worlds.” The thousands of motorists who daily fume their way around its serpentine lengths have the same effect as water on a prayer wheel, grinding out an endless fog of low.. grade evil to pollute the metaphysical atmosphere for scores of miles around. It was one of Crowley's better achievements. It had taken years to achieve, and had involved three computer hacks, two break.. ins, one minor bribery and, on one wet night when all else had failed, two hours in a squelchy field shifting the marker pegs a few but occultly incredibly significant meters."

Induced demand doesn't work the same outside the city as it does within. Also the Green Belt would prevent sprawl

Just to shed some further light on this. A bypass of the western section of the M25 has been conceived in the early 60s and you could consider it 'Ringway 5'. The M31 would of travelled in its shortest form from Reading connecting with the M4, bypassing Bracknell and then down to the M3. The planners also then saw the possibility of further connecting the M31 to the A3, meeting the M25 or Ringway 4 as it was the time with the A3/M25 junction for one massive 3 directional motorway junction. The possibility of connecting this route to the M40 was also there, but this has now been made redundant by the A404 and A404(M). The only section of the M31 built is the A329(M) and the A3290 which connects Reading to the M4 and then to Bracknell. The signs of it being the M31 are there on there section between Reading and M4 J10 on the A329(M) and A3290, as it has a massive central reservation designed to make it 3 lanes wide, and the bridges are designed for 3 lanes each way. On top of that M4 J10 is a massive complex, and is one of only 3 partially unrolled cloverleafs in the UK. Clearly proving that the junction had far greater plans than being an expressway between Bracknell and Reading.

@@iansteelmatheson Induced demand is actually nothing to do with building more roads - induced demand is where travel is rendered necessary whether people like it or not - high property values - exorbitant rents etc. which forces people to live ever further from their places of work - that's induced demand - it's forced upon people. What happens when a new road/rail link is built is what I call Realized Socio-Economic Potential - an example of this is said to be the Erskine Bridge built in the 1970's west of Glasgow - there was plenty of labor one side of the Clyde, but the jobs were on the other - the desire for people to get to those jobs was said to be there, bridge or no bridge - there's no induced demand. Once the bridge was built, people were able to access the jobs - it's call free market capitalism! In general, the more accessible an area, the more business opportunities - it's called economic growth!

Same here

You'd think they'd have finished by now!

Quarantine? ))

are you loving that you didn't saw this ddudes content until 2020?

@@Senhordaverdadeabsol I think you know what was meant. Granted, it wasn't worded very well.

Dude, it is completely the same situation for me. Jay Foreman has one of the best RU-vid channels I've ever seen and I'm surprised I didn't discover him earlier.

SAMEEE. I'm just a new subscriber

Utkarsh Kaushik Doesn’t he have channel as well?

@@dorsvenabili5573 yes, he does

Titles Music: Beardyman I think I know that guy as well...

Dors Venabili The Tiger Woman?

Tom Scott is bloody amazing

my thoughts :DD goes hand in hand with that vine on "THE FOOKEN M25"

@@lisa_vxng exactly! also: love ur pfp^^

@@eliward1378 haha thanks☺️

Wahoo!

What's a computer?

So you need to live in North-West London

@@lucaslonchampt613 NW London does include areas that are traditionally considered the poshest so, yes

@@emilybarclay8831 Posh isn't always good.

@@mildlydispleased3221 Probably better schools and standard of living

Those topics are probably as old as London herself! As a East Londoner with friends all over we often tease about worst/best bits of London. Generally 'our bit' is deemed the best, as with all these debates. (I'm cool with SE, though I've always lived in NE. North vs South is often perceived as the bigger grudge match, but I grew up in the 80s thinking it was East vs West.. But maybe it was actually more about classism by another name than anything else 🤷‍♀️ The more things change, and all that!)

Not a problem. He overwrites with Tippxx

Obviously it's not his

@@jacktheladfrost why is that obvious? lmao

He puts a transparent sheet of plastic over it, there are bits of blue tack holding it on in the corners.

his monitor. he could smear it with cheese if he want.. 😂😂😋😂😂

...that guy being the same bloke who just blocked you in his car to start a ten minute monologue.

It's amazing, I watched this whole video without noticing how old it was. I genuinely thought him using a Windows XP computer in one scene was an artistic choice.

Im mean it's a nice video but he DREW on a monitor. That gave ne shivers

really amazing

I approve this message! That's a well thought out presentation mate. Greetings from Texas... Cheers

At the end of the clip where he's cleaning it you can see some plastic lift off. It's only barely noticeable.

If you look closely the monitor had a clear plastic sheet on it

+Fantastrix No I wouldn't!!!

Why?

+Ttrucker But he's a white man. Maybe they will hire if he's gay

James Baxter IKR

James Baxter He is certainly enough of a left wing twat to work there.

He does and it’s all on his Patreon

CORRECTION! It was started in 2009

It really doesn't

thequeenofspades Why are we not funding this?

Holy shit

The government doesn't want the public to know that there can be motorways inside London. So... no TV series.

nobody watches TV anymore. That`s why we are here.

The BBC had a whole hour long documentary on it ages ago.

It's called alcohol poisoning

pay my hospital bill

What was the original title?

@@shrek_has_swag2344 Cries in American healthcare

@@anarghyasumanth8590 First it was "Unfinished London - Episode 2" then "London's unfinished motorways (Unfinished London ep2)" and now its just "London's unfinished motorways"

Don't go there by car whatever you do

I go by train which is much cheaper and faster.

Yeah im the same. Watched this at least 50 times since it came out, no joke.

You should come, it's a wonderful city.

Same I've watched this video so many times

The thing is I grew up close to a city called Kassel, which the RAF was so friendly to flatten in WW2, the consequence being very well designed streets, that can handle the traffic made by 200k people from and 200k people around the city. Now I am studying physics in a city called Heidelberg which the RAF did not bomb at all in return for the Luftwaffe not bombing oxford and cmbridge. Heidelberg has close to a third of the population of the Kassel area and traffic is dumpsterfire.

Abraham Wilberforce Sorry wrong video boomer

@@abrahamwilberforce9824 Cool nice to hear some history :D

@@abrahamwilberforce9824 it gets even better in Dresden...

Litterally

I heard the sound and just went "Wait, is he..? Yep, taking a hit from a bong. So that´s how you make Londons infrastructure truly fascinating!"

Looks like we got a badass over here!

@@AA-hg5fk yes smoking a joint like a stoner, how badass. Idiot

@@AA-hg5fk Well, If you're from a state where it's legal it has the same "badass" energy as lighting a cigarette. None.

Man liked a comment on a 9 year old video, absolute legend

Us Londoners are in denial that people actually live outside the M25

The map of the ringroads immediately made me think of Moscow. Not that I've been there, I just saw it on Google Maps.

@@obamaprism9702 the m25 marks the boundary between the habitable zone and the forbidden zone, where nothing grows, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume. Anyone who claims to be from beyond the m25 is a liar and must be silenced.

@@zUJ7EjVD assuming your Aussie or kiwi or maybe Maltese

@@obamaprism9702 to me (I grew up in north Southwark) north England starts from hackney and beyond and when I think of none Londoners I imagine gypsies

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why on earth does it even matter that it is 7 years old. The subject matter he covers is completely pre-1990 for heavens sakes.

@@dariusanderton3760 why does it matter if the subject matter he covers is pre-1990?

agree 100% OP

@@dariusanderton3760 it matters because compared to most stuff on RU-vid in 2011 this is a lot more polished and well produced, you numpty

Anyone before 1900: bullbozer heheheh

No the bulldozer goes brmbrmbrmbrm

Haha, bulldozer bulldoze urban blight for freeway

That is what we did here in Chicago. Whole neighborhoods --- replaced by freeways in the 50's. Chicago lost a lot. Don't do it.

And that's on racism.

That's not true

I mean... you are not wrong. (Also, look at the credits)

he did the editing

adam atkinson British humour at its finest

Speaking of British humour, Adam Atkinson, do you know a man named Rowan Atkinson

@@doublevector5270 Isn't he Mr Bean's twin brother?

A nice line to the A1. Too bad there's no "comply" in there... that's my favorite (oops, favourite) London Taxi term lol. I think it has something to do with roundabouts?

@@james-p yep ;-D

The knowledge Mr. Housegow.

How the hell do you do that.

@@shitlordflytrap1078 3 years of studying and 2 years of examinations.

You're not expecting it to finish are you?

More than 10 years. See the northern line video

The simpsons

@@charlieh2081 no

@@mandemt1076 yes

Burns Night - Weird colours, contrasts? I know what you mean it’s pretty odd.

@@mr8I7 and his haircut? :D

Partly the presenter's haircut but also the rapid editing and 'comedy' sound effects are very 90s, the kind of thing they used to have on Channel Four 'yoof' programmes c.1995.

Because it was filmed in 2011

It's because it was filmed in 2011 on 90's equipment.

@The Stammering Dunce *waves back, now as an avid NJB viewer :D*

Ikr

@@tiaxanderson9725 was that the why I hate houston one? Understood everything I said growing up here all my life in one visit. 😭😭😭

Excellent comment - I was scrolling down to consider leaving an NJB rec myself, but I see I've been beaten by two years 🤭

On a MUCH smaller scale, in Denmark, the city of Odense in 1940s saw the car as the future! So ten-ish years later, the city-counsil agreed on making room for: THE CAR So they demolished a huuuuge part on the central city to make way for the cars with a brand new road. People hated it! It was waaay to big. Totally out of scale. Already 10 years later, everyone in the city council saw it as “a scar in Odense”, and it has been used by city planners around the world as how NOT to do. There is a happy ending: Now, 50 years later, the road has been closed. They are building a new city block, for pedestrians, and a new tram. Its all coming back around :)

It can't be just a question of having decent streets or not though. Look at Tokyo - they have their huge motorways and large streets all across and around the city too, yet everything's clean and traffic's somehow not any more crazy than anywhere else - in fact I found it pretty darn mild. Obviously there's a lot of it, what with there being a lot of people (and businesses), but the excellent public transportation systems does its job regardless. So there might be a way to find a better balance that'd allow for reasonable car traffic if other factors were improved.

Los Angeles got the way it did because of two things: 1) At the same time they built the major freeways, they got rid of most of their public transport infrastructure including most of the trams-- new infra wouldn't be built for decades 2) Excluding the earliest ones, the freeways were planned as part of a country-wide system by the Interstate planning commission, but there was no unified public transport plan (each municipality had its own say). Had the people-movement needs of the city been taken care of, the freeways would mostly be used for priority traffic and trucks/lorries. This isn't the case as it's practically impossible to go anywhere in LA on public transport. People who don't have cars have to use a bus to commute 2 hours to go less than 15 miles. Thus, everyone gets a car as soon as they can, even if they have to sit in traffic.

In Prague we have a fuckin' highway running straight through our historical center, dividing the Wenceslas Square from the National Museum. That's the downside of having communist planners designing your city. But we never finished the ringway after the revolution. We didn't have to because our public transport is amazing. That's the upside of having communist planners designing your city.

@@holger_p I agree wholeheartedly...

Arjan Wilbie haha

Arjan Wilbie just like interstate 495 in Washington DC

Muhammed Soofi omg M25 is basically the British I-495 Both go around the capital city, and both are a complete, utter nightmare.

lol

Arjan Wilbie We have a similar thing in Auckland, New Zealand where the Southern Motorway is sometimes referred to as a carpark because of traffic congestion.

"A series of scarcely believable road signs!"

South circular (Honest)

Awful

Gordonblues i don’t understand

@@MalaysianAviator737-8 The south circular works so bad that it's considered a joke compared to the north circular.

True. I'm no expert, but a couple of minutes googling suggests the M1 was the first inter-urban motorway, not the first motorway.

@@epiendless1128 maybe so, but that's not what he said. The Preston Bypass IS the first motorway to be built in the UK.

True, but it fell to pieces after the first Winter and had to be rebuilt.

Well it’s the first motorway that mattered anything that has nothing to do with London doesn’t matter duh

Absolutely correct. First motorway Preston bypass. Not in dispute.

A few quid under the table i'd say ~ wink wink

Ratel.H Badger they recommended it because they knew you'd like it maybe. Man this channel popped up in my feed yesterday and now I'm hooked! This gentleman is impressively intelligent and his comedic timing resembles the most refined of British comedy which is the best in my opinion.

I'm also interested in learning about British geography because somehow it's one of the countries I'm least familiar with on this topic despite it being my next door neighbour (I'm Irish).

How about 5:18?

cross bronx expressway: sorry what was that?

Nobody wants to live in New Jersey, so living next to a motorway would be expected.

NJ: *Æ*

Kaizoe Ocshtau NJ is the best state fuck you

My elementary school and indeed my house in New Jersey was literally feet from a gigantic highway.

+moon god The monitor was covered with a plastic sheet. Look carefully at the corners and you can see the blu tack.

You've ruined the magic :c

Jay Foreman Any new video?

If it was a computer marker or if he wiped it off soon after it would be fine

Whiteboard marker wouldn't be an issue. Even permanent marker would come off with some isopropyl alcohol.

So true

Because we do everything better!

@@wannabehistorian371 weeb

@PikaPluff2040 Am Japanese, actually.

Mind you, the greater Tokyo area is as large as the UK itself.

Man you should see Montreal. The downtown is just full of highways (A10, A15, A19, A20, A40, A720 all run through or into downtown) and those highways are full of cars. 3 of the highways are important long distance roads too, so they carry a lot of foreign traffic as well (for example A15 goes all the way to the US border, and continues as I-87 into New York City). And I haven't mentioned all the other highways that circle or pass near Montreal (A13, A30, A35, A50 and too much more)

Singapore has pretty bad traffic jams as well. A lot of expressways lead to the city center (and I think they're building a new one), and majority of them get jammed packed during peak hours. Even some of the public train lines get so busy they get traffic jams too.

Honestly it's hilarious how many random bits of public transport we have in London, I love it. Obviously buses, trains, tubes, bikes but we have trams down in Croydon, the North Circular, Ferrys across the water, an automated overground, big ass tunnels, canals and even a bloody cable car.

This is interesting, but your public transport is far superior to Britain's (except maybe coaches - Britain's good at long-distance coaches). Britain has a lot of everything, just most of it isn't very good (or insufficient for today).

The Georgia Parameter I-285 always get's jammed up during the evening hours. Used to take me 3 hours to get from Buford Highway to Wesley Chapel until I just decided to go the street way home which takes just one hour.

Yes, I too watched clowns masturbate in Year 6

hold up--

Swrve™ Yh legit

So BBC it hurts. A good hurt though.

Saw this and could have sworn i've seen the guy on the telly, just because of the styling of the video!

He's on the One Show occasionally, he doesn't work for the BBC though.

Well, thats what you get with privatised rail, innit?

Vicvic W in France, the railway is not privatised and apart from the so great TGV and the big cities, there are almost no regional trains and it's still expensive

SimonHellinger Well that's clearly government mismanagement. National rail here i the uk was, top quote a wise man "pretty good."

Vicvic W British Rail closed many many smaller railway lines. I don't think that is "pretty good"

SimonHellinger Yes but it was on time more than current rail franchises. I'm comparing now to then. It's not like these franchises have re-opened them.

Are you still in the states?

@@chillnspace777 No, did my year and went back to the UK although do miss the people and the place a lot

It's very confusing and even though I can't drive I still get scared every time I go on it 😂😂

Only half of it was built as well. That's not to mention all the other motorways planned outside of the central area.

The Mancunian way in Manchester is similarly shitty.

Bob Dylan got stopped by the Police for walking along the M8 in Glasgow.

Man why didn’t you guys leave the UK

It wouldn't work in London. There's 3 times as many people and the city is very old with even underground being at a premium. There simply isn't space and the only real way to improve congestion is improving public transport.

@@arturturkevych3816 do what the Germans do, build a monorail on stilts , high above the streets. Make the monorail cheap to use and see how commuters will ditch the tube , cars and buses. Where there's a will, there's a way. However, there will be the usual silly planning laws, public/private funding issues, finding skilled workforce, setting up a monorail delivery group, strikes.... Too many challenges, better to stay with the old system and leave the problem to fester ....

@@prp3231 monorail didn't prove itself as an alternative to tube, tram or light rail and has failed. Many cities would be better off building a light rail system on a bridge. Much cheaper and higher capacity. I don't know what are you talking about in Germany, since the only famous monorail system there is in Wuppertal on a river and it is successful purely due to the geography of the town. Germany has a handful of monorails that are mostly not in big cities. Many cities like Toronto got rid of it due to monorail being ineffective and it isn't competitive with light rail or tube

Oh those people living between Caulfield and Dandenong got me good. The lot were complaining that the elevated rail line would drive down the house prices. In the end, the house prices went up after it got constructed, not least because the traffic around the level crossings disappeared

This is how people are everywhere, ya we want it built just not in my backyard

curiously, not all the lanes are equal anyway. Lanes 1 + 2 have always been around 3/400mm wider than the standard 3.65m to accomodate HGV’s. Lane 3/4 (on newer sections) tended to be narrower.

at least it wasn't Milton Keynes this time

Cycleways missing in latest developed Stevenage areas - disappeared with demise of Stevenage Development Corp.' Predestrianised Town Centre, & other areas, now danger zones with cyclists zooming around.

Yes 😂

I was looking for this comment

Gotta love the sigil opportunity the M25 affords

The m25 aka hell on earth

@@nebulonicc me too 😂😂😂

Can I get a 'wahoo?'

@@rileybanks1191 whaoo

Wahoo (also, knowing the kind of references Jay makes, it probably wouldve been mentioned if this was made after Good Omens was written)

Blue Magma and The Model Railwayman It was made 20 years after GO was written.

You mean A. *Jay* Crowley? There’s something fishy here...

projectzip I thought some of the jokes were lame. Why is Patrick Abercrombie played by a naked man? Why is "Graham Roads" a clown? Why did Margaret Thatcher vomit? I thought Foreman's behaviour in front of that former city councilman was needlessly obnoxious.

Same

Same! My god this dude is a god!

all of those things were hilarious

the yiddies lol

shaunbot took the words right out of my keyboard

The building of and opposition to bypasses is a great British pasttime. We hate sitting in traffic, but we don't want bypass roads built through our countryside. There's always one being built and always everyone hates it (but then drives on it when it is built).

+Matthew Taylor Not just Britain. Australia, too. Back in the 1990s, there was considerable grumbling around Armidale, New South Wales about a bypass for the New England Highway. It got built anyway, and since then it's been the fastest way for anyone living on the north side of town to get to the airport.

Matthew Taylor The bigfrst 2 complaints about bypasses were people who didn't want to see their cohntryside destroyed and people who didn't want to lose their business in their town, since cars would drive around it.

jmalmsten 'Arthur lay in the mud and squelched at him'.