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London to Edinburgh by train for £19 with LUMO 

Wingin’ It! Paul Lucas
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Is this Britain's cheapest train? At £19 for nearly 400 miles between the English and Scottish capitals, surely the service must be a disappointment? Find out how Lumo shapes up against big competitor LNER in the video!
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0:00 Intro
0:56 Kings Cross Station, London
2:36 Boarding our LUMO Class 803 for Edinburgh
3:42 Tickets and fares
4:22 Departure at 1045
4:53 Catering and pre order food
6:30 Seating overview
7:10 Loo review!
8:00 Avoiding York
9:00 Newcastle and the "real north"
10:25 LUMO Baggage restrictions
12:00 Arrival into Edinburgh, thanks and conclusions!
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@mattjwayad9639
@mattjwayad9639 27 дней назад
Well-edited, non-annoying, and informative travel video. Paul is a pro.
@john07973
@john07973 26 дней назад
Agreed it's not "cool" for baldy man if no lounge or amenity kit
@philipcooper8297
@philipcooper8297 27 дней назад
Covering 392 miles for just £19, you wouldn't get there any cheaper even if you walked the distance. So, yes. It is worth it.
@daveyhorner2812
@daveyhorner2812 27 дней назад
Yeah, but who ever books 5 months in advance!!!
@GabrielsReviews
@GabrielsReviews 27 дней назад
@@daveyhorner2812 I would if I could. I had an Avanti search rejected last week because I was looking too far ahead .
@briangasser973
@briangasser973 27 дней назад
Buying a ticket 5 months out during off an peak time is something hard for most travelers
@stevedoughty3865
@stevedoughty3865 27 дней назад
Did he buy 2 tickets?
@GabrielsReviews
@GabrielsReviews 27 дней назад
@@briangasser973 I would sometimes if more operators would let me but most UK operators do not sell tickets that far in advance .
@RogEdwardsTV
@RogEdwardsTV 27 дней назад
The LUMO seats are so much more comfortable than LNER's concrete ironing board standard seats. 😂
@alexmcwhirter6611
@alexmcwhirter6611 27 дней назад
Indeed. Hence Avanti West Coast has emulated these Lumo units with better seating for its latest bi-mode units.
@egpx
@egpx 26 дней назад
@@alexmcwhirter6611I’ve found the new Avanti seat disappointing in that regard. On a recent trip from Glasgow to Birmingham I spent four hours on one and my arse hasn’t yet got over it.
@TrainDriverSam
@TrainDriverSam 27 дней назад
My favourite view out of a train is the view out of the front - the premier seat!
@class313
@class313 23 дня назад
I'm not sure how being DOO makes staff more visible when LNER have hosts in both standard and first who don't get involved with dispatch. Whilst lumo have their staff on the platform as well? It's more down to the fact it's only a 5 car train with very few stops.
@jamesjimbob71
@jamesjimbob71 27 дней назад
i love that the toilet tells you that the door is locked, they should make that featue standed in all trains
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 27 дней назад
I don't know where you're from, but a lot of modern (and modified older) trains on the British network do it.
@TomCro73
@TomCro73 26 дней назад
I believe that's nowadays mandated by rail accessibility regulations. I remember when the first push-button cubicles were introduced (possibly on the 158s when new?) Many passengers didn't notice that they'd to press the 'door lock' button after 'door close' - with no audible confirmation... led to quite a few embarrassing situations!
@4evertrue830
@4evertrue830 26 дней назад
Maybe on all airline toilets too..😂😅😊
@barber215
@barber215 27 дней назад
I really appreciate all the research you put into these trips. I learn things that I did not know before, and it's refreshing. Cheers to another video, good sir. Be well
@4evertrue830
@4evertrue830 26 дней назад
Wouldn't it be nice if he could do the same on his airline trips, to those different countries and the cities he visits as well? Maybe i am asking for too much, idk. 😏😌
@bbpete8349
@bbpete8349 27 дней назад
Nice and informative. I did not know of LUMO and now hope to add this same trip for me in the future! Thanks.
@Dado-ph7jr
@Dado-ph7jr 21 день назад
Favourite view. Crossing the Medway Bridge between Strood and Rochester. The Norman Castle and Cathedral form a fabulous duo.
@funvizfunviz
@funvizfunviz 27 дней назад
My favourite train journey is from Bath Spa to Bradford on Avon, following the River Avon. Beautiful.
@77smp
@77smp 27 дней назад
Only gone as far as Newcastle on Lumo as I usually use LNER to get to Peterborough. The seats are certainly more comfortable but if there's only a few pounds in it to London, I'd still likely use LNER as the train is probably going to be quieter, with a greater chance of a table or a cheap 1st upgrade. £19 is great but I can't go on a random day five months from now, still, it's good to have alternatives.
@apokoronvamos8528
@apokoronvamos8528 7 дней назад
Favourite view. Train to Penzance is spoiled for choice, running through Dawlish, then over the Tamar, seeing Truro cathedral and then Mounts Bay ❤
@Sneezingswanlon
@Sneezingswanlon 26 дней назад
Used Lumo from London to Morpeth last year, and was really impressed with the Service (both price and on board staff). Usually travel with LNER when I go to Edinburgh, but will definitely be trying Lumo out for that journey
@dazlebluefrogify
@dazlebluefrogify 27 дней назад
Great video as always mate thats why your one of a small group of vloggers i watch 😂so much information ,keep them coming paul thanks
@Paul_Lucas
@Paul_Lucas 27 дней назад
Thank you!
@blossomct
@blossomct 27 дней назад
Always love your vids!! Next time I'm in London I'll have to try that train so thanks!!
@OzMOTO
@OzMOTO 19 дней назад
Always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work. 😊
@chrisk_nfl4120
@chrisk_nfl4120 27 дней назад
As a Newcastle man born and bred there, that rainfall on the City as you arrive is so on brand. LumO's fantastic. I wish I had the chance to travel on it more, but since work pays for my travel to the capital, I have no real need to travel on it. £19 to travel on one of the busiest rail lines in Britain is phenomenal. It's essentially brought the "budget airlines" model to British rail, and something Grand Central should look into. Also, that cupboard for storage with the reservation thing is a feature on the 800 series, on LNER it can be reserved for bikes, but truthfully I think they should all be turned into more luggage storage. I never see bikes being used in those cupboards!
@TheRareVideosXL
@TheRareVideosXL 27 дней назад
Great content as always.
@lewiss626
@lewiss626 27 дней назад
Lumos seats are so so much better than LNER, and considering the majority of people will be travelling between london and edinburgh, the seats need to be good, considering it's over 4 hours. The seat cushions are very comfy, and the seats are slightly angles back, which is much better than lners straight back seats.
@andywillis2650
@andywillis2650 23 дня назад
Great video Paul, & great value for money too. Might have to try Lumo one day !
@jonathanroberts9168
@jonathanroberts9168 27 дней назад
As a frequent traveller between North East and London and used Lumo a few times. It’s great until something goes wrong and unlike LNER it isn’t as simple as getting the next train.
@KEITHGEE1000
@KEITHGEE1000 27 дней назад
Great as always, Paul. Never heard of Lump. Have now!!! Thanks! Keith
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 26 дней назад
Great value. Good seating. Fast ride. Thanks Paul💚👌👍
@RW-ce8kp
@RW-ce8kp 27 дней назад
Excellent video. Cheers from the States.
@dospalmascb
@dospalmascb 27 дней назад
Seems like a fantastic service. I'm wondering if they allow overcrowding like LNER etc, given you mentioned the majority of the seating is pre booked. Great Video Paul! I would have loved to know you were coming to Edinburgh, I'd have welcomed you to our city. Maybe next time. Just for information, the name Tweed means border and the river tweed does acutally form a significant part of the border. Lowry loved Berwick and spent a lot of time in the town, staying at the Castle hotel next to the station,
@martinspecht1970
@martinspecht1970 27 дней назад
Very nice Tripreport .. Thank you 😊
@michaelscott7166
@michaelscott7166 27 дней назад
We could do Lumo on other lines. Prices on Cross Country have got so far out of hand that yesterday it was considerably cheaper to go from Newport to Leeds via London on GWR/LNER than it was to go on a conventional route via Birmingham.
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 27 дней назад
I used Lumo to get to and from Newcastle in January 2024. At the London end, it was already pretty crowded and between a couple of customers it nearly got heated over one of them refusing to put their coat on the luggage rack or on the hook next to the window seat. As far as the journeys themselves, the trains were very smooth, more comfortable than the 800/801's, though it did seem to take some unusual routes, like running slowly, nonstop, through Darlington Bank Top Station
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 27 дней назад
I LOVED the Scotland Updates on Twitter btw!
@thornton
@thornton 26 дней назад
Great video :) My favourite view from a train has to be the river Elbe between Dresden and Prague :)
@christinehodge3608
@christinehodge3608 18 дней назад
Thank you for sharing, very interesting
@ryanfrisby7389
@ryanfrisby7389 27 дней назад
Excellent review!
@robelvery
@robelvery 27 дней назад
I will definitely give Lumo a go at some point. The only downside for me would be if I ended up with one of the end seats with no windows or one of the seats with hardly any view between windows. I like to watch the world pass by on my train journeys! I know this isn't just the case with Lumo, most modern UK rolling stock have this disadvantage, particularly in standard class. LNER have a tool on their website where you can see your seat on a coach diagram when booking and change it if required. That said the diagram doesn't show where the windows are situated but its possible to work out where they are more likely to be. For longer journeys I book well in advance as to get a good deal in first class. Sometimes you can get a good price ticket with LNER. Some of the views from the train along the ECML are wonderful. Durham, crossing the Tyne at Newcastle and along the Northumberland coast are some of my favourite. My all time favourite train journey for scenic views though has to be the Settle & Carlisle line. You forgot to mention the wonderful 91/225 sets which are still in operation between Kings Cross and Leeds/York. These are my favourite trains in operation and are more comfortable to ride in than any of the 800 series. They look great in the new livery too with the nod to Intercity days.
@thefareplayer2254
@thefareplayer2254 27 дней назад
My guess is they stop at Lumo either because the train (ideally) has to slow down there anyway, OR as a morbid “safety measure” to make sure they slow down for that curve.
@florianb81
@florianb81 25 дней назад
My favourite View in a train IS the rhine Valley going from Mainz to Koblenz. Spectacular Views Great Video As always
@rezaalan3991
@rezaalan3991 26 дней назад
Great trip. Finally you try this train. I think it's worth it, if I can book tickets very early as possible.
@kevinsimm2063
@kevinsimm2063 27 дней назад
Great trip report , please concentrate on this type of content instead of 1st class/ buisness, as most watchers cannot afford! ......( well me anyway) !
@MarkSkids
@MarkSkids 9 дней назад
I like the 1st class and business content, it's something I use a lot, so I appreciate it. A mix of both economy and 1st class travel is perfect.
@karlnicholls1784
@karlnicholls1784 27 дней назад
Truro has a great view from the railway….not to mention entering into Saltash coming over the bridge from Plymouth
@jsptravels
@jsptravels 23 дня назад
That cubby is the Class 80x cycle rack, with indicators as most operators require you to make a bike reservation 😉
@andyphillips7437
@andyphillips7437 27 дней назад
You just seem to do this better than all the other RU-vidrs.
@LOrealHardly
@LOrealHardly 27 дней назад
I'm defo going to try that. I'm Outside Edinburgh with a need to get to Reading now and again...
@Joker77W
@Joker77W 26 дней назад
What unusual weather for the UK, some blue sky!
@Gordon_Highlander
@Gordon_Highlander 26 дней назад
Thanks for the memories Paul. I remember when I was last home in 1998 and 2001, I travelled from Kings Cross on the Highland Chieftain to Inverness; taking a break to see family at Edinburgh Waverley. The straight through run from KC to Inverness was some 8 hours and 25 minutes from what I remember. The subsequent trip in 2001 was a mishmash as the train times had changed, and to cut a long story short, I had to get a train from Kings Cross to Fife and then a Scot Rail train from Fife to Perthshire to catch up with family. Wow what a trip that was. Thanks for sharing mate
@torgeirbrandsnes1916
@torgeirbrandsnes1916 27 дней назад
Great vlog as always! I love trains. Norway is not built for trains… Go Ahead does the train from Oslo to Stavanger. Not the best I have heard. Keep up the good work. Be safe!
@michaelkinsella1559
@michaelkinsella1559 26 дней назад
Love the view from my commute Dundee to Edinburgh. Take takes in Tay and Forth Bridges and fast on Scotrail’s HST.
@DaveBrettuk
@DaveBrettuk 6 дней назад
Great video! Thank you for sharing. Quick question, you mentioned you use a rail card? Which one do you use? Thank you.
@danielhill7502
@danielhill7502 27 дней назад
I live in Newcastle so will always try to book LUMO if travelling to Edinburgh or London. However you need to be flexible with your timings and there are only a couple of services a day. The train beer is lovely. Some of the craft beer bars in Newcastle have it as their house pale ale. The seats are so much more comfortable than LNERs!
@user-dl3uo3we2z
@user-dl3uo3we2z 27 дней назад
Couple random thoughts popped into my head 1 you mentioned those back seats with no windows...would be interesting if they put a flat screen on the inside, connected with a camera facing outward, to still give the illusion of a window seat... 1b imagine if they could change to a camera capturing a more ideal scenery from the other side, or say a front facing camera or backward camera 2. I noticed your suitcase looked robust, curious if you havnt done a suitcase review suggestion based on all your travels and long mileage exp. Let alone packing tips or must haves🤔
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 27 дней назад
“Well done for remembering what a baby food is called” 😜 great typo there, Paul! Looks like a good service to me
@alexmcintyre8229
@alexmcintyre8229 27 дней назад
Hey Paul at 11:00 when you show the reservation indicator for the luggage cubby perhaps you could reserve the luggage cubby & bring a chair with you so you can be guaranteed a seat. Nothing says first class on Lumo more than sitting on a lawn chair in a baggage cubby.
@LeeskiLeo
@LeeskiLeo 20 дней назад
It's probably because it's the bike space on LNER/GWR which require reservations, and Hitachi didn't remove it
@notreyf
@notreyf 27 дней назад
£2.00 for a Tunnocks's Caramel Wafer?? Wow! Thanks for another cracking vid.
@JayROwen
@JayROwen 27 дней назад
Great video. I think the reservation light in the luggage stowage area is probably for bikes. Most other companies that use these trains will use that area as a bike storage area instead
@kieronsmith002
@kieronsmith002 24 дня назад
£19 is not a bad price to travel from King's Cross to Edinburgh. I haven't traveled by train up to Scotland because it takes 8 hours from Great Yarmouth to Edinburgh which is expensive. I have traveled to Edinburgh twice with easyjet and Edinburgh is a really nice place to visit when on holiday. Your videos are brilliant Paul 👍
@danlately9277
@danlately9277 27 дней назад
Missed your videos!
@RuairiNevin
@RuairiNevin 14 дней назад
Done Newcastle to kings cross in 2022 for £19, those seats are wearing very quickly ! But Great service. Will be stacking up my lner service from Kings Cross to Leeds in a couple of weeks for my Birthday
@johnburke1317
@johnburke1317 25 дней назад
Nice video 😊
@iam433
@iam433 27 дней назад
When did non-stop trains through Darlington stop using the fast avoiding lines?
@ianb3514
@ianb3514 25 дней назад
Favourite view on a train - the Crouch estuary between Althorne & Burnham-on-Crouch on the Crouch Valley line in Essex (Greater Anglia)
@andrewthacker114
@andrewthacker114 24 дня назад
Interesting clip , you got a great deal.
@neilwatson4461
@neilwatson4461 25 дней назад
Looks a very good train for sure, Apparently in 2025 in my neck of the woods they are going to operating a new service from Rochdale to London calling at Manc Vic, Eccles, Newton-le-Willows (My local) and Warrington BQ, would be a real bonus for me as i could do more London trips by train
@gerrib1633
@gerrib1633 27 дней назад
This trip report cemented my plan to go to Edinburgh on Lumo next time I’m in the UK.
@petey3965
@petey3965 26 дней назад
Nice one, Paul but it's like sleeping on a Sesh board
@Cookie2k
@Cookie2k 27 дней назад
Great idea with the food options but £2 for ONE Tunnocks?! Really?
@randommusic4567
@randommusic4567 7 дней назад
I believe that the reservation indicators for the luggage cupboard are for bike reservations, at least on the other 8xx for lner i have been on this seems to be the case, there are 2 bike brackets attached to the wall that can be reserved like a seat Could be wrong but that is my best guess
@James-gf9jl
@James-gf9jl 22 дня назад
Great price. Back in 1993, I thought that York to King's Cross return for £50 was good, and that's over thirty years ago.
@simonbrodie3157
@simonbrodie3157 26 дней назад
The trouble with Lumo is with the stations it doesn’t serve. LNER have pumped up the prices (or possibly not raised them at the stations Lumo does stop at). So it’s now cheaper to get a ticket to London from Newcastle, than a journey from Northallerton, Darlington and Durham!
@kirstenduke4146
@kirstenduke4146 26 дней назад
I travelled on Lumo from NCL - KGX last year and found it alright :)
@SooP-mf2md
@SooP-mf2md 27 дней назад
My experiences on Lumo have been mixed...yep usually shorter travel times and on time... but I prefer the alternative operator
@CUFC247
@CUFC247 27 дней назад
Like the blue colour of the trains, echo of the Mallard steam train.
@JMac7991
@JMac7991 16 дней назад
I wish there was a west coast equivalent. Glasgow to London and maybe go through Manchester, rather than around it. Could a competitor to both Avanti and TPE. I like the idea some open access operators do in Europe with using old but modernised coaches with a electric loco on the front. They could have a couple of additional services extending up from Glasgow to Inverness, though the route through Glasgow could be convoluted.
@peteredwards338
@peteredwards338 25 дней назад
Alnmouth was worth a mention also the Victorian railway engineers put the line straight through the 11 century New Castle - Vandalism !
@CJBindahouse
@CJBindahouse 26 дней назад
As someone who spent a year in Newcastle, my favourite view is of the bridges...sadly obscured
@breeze1472
@breeze1472 23 дня назад
where did you get the ticket for £19 ive looked and cant find one that price...please advise
@MStanleyRoss
@MStanleyRoss 27 дней назад
That's my fav view at 11.18, looking to the sea down the Tweed from The Royal Border Bridge.
@ampersand.8888
@ampersand.8888 27 дней назад
Any train trip that goes through the mountains is my favourite view from a train.
@dazlebluefrogify
@dazlebluefrogify 27 дней назад
Try southern germany,switzerland, parts of France and northern italy or Austria to name a few places i've been threw on a train ,switzerland is the best stunning but so is France in the Alpes 😂
@user-yz7hx3ty6s
@user-yz7hx3ty6s 27 дней назад
Hi Paul can you please yell me what brand suitcase you used on this trip. it looked sturdy amd I may want to get one safe travels hope your mom is doing better cheers
@andrewstorm8240
@andrewstorm8240 27 дней назад
You can visit the N reactor on the coast
@JBMtravels
@JBMtravels 27 дней назад
Great video but just to let you know this is the cheapest service just so you know. You can get cheaper service from London Euston to Edinburgh but there really hard to find though. Being a RU-vid travel vloger I should do a video on this but apart from that I enjoyed your video 📸
@nimadolma3713
@nimadolma3713 15 дней назад
I am good even it cost 50£ no problem. But I need videos like this . Can also post more about Scotland where to stay in cheaper I like hike and tracking what to take local bus and more plz. Thanks Paul useful videos 👍
@martymcfly256
@martymcfly256 27 дней назад
Favourite view from a train? Easy! Anywhere on the White Pass Railway.
@CUFC247
@CUFC247 27 дней назад
My favourite view from a train is of the Jumbo water tower in Colchester which means I am nearly home.
@whatever8282828
@whatever8282828 27 дней назад
Hitachi! I used to have their VCR!
@Sugi1971
@Sugi1971 27 дней назад
Very good to hear... £19
@cageordie
@cageordie 27 дней назад
Hmm, next time I go home to the UK this might be a better option than waiting hours for a flight to Edinburgh or Newcastle.
@chrism1102
@chrism1102 27 дней назад
This makes me wish I took the train on my Scotland trip. I flew instead. BA had a deal, any 3 domestic UK flights for $79 if you buy your overseas flights on BA. I ended up flying from Manchester to Edinburgh! That's probably the shortest flight I've ever been on.
@imsbvs
@imsbvs 27 дней назад
Favoutite train window view ...try Samphire Hoe and the English Channel between Dover & Folkestone, looking out to France!
@rockerjim8045
@rockerjim8045 26 дней назад
did that 3 days ago
@julierogers1155
@julierogers1155 27 дней назад
THANK YOU for the comment about the seat BACKS, I also MUCH PREFER the LUMO seats (backs) too!
@sthitadhibasu
@sthitadhibasu 27 дней назад
Paul, as usual, you excel in travel videos
@dancapewell
@dancapewell 23 дня назад
That cubby is bike storage normally hence the reservation screens
@robertwalker1742
@robertwalker1742 27 дней назад
Read somewhere Paul, that the view into Durham was the queen mothers favourite sight from the royal train.
@hunkhk
@hunkhk 27 дней назад
Then it must be good 😂😂😂
@joesandra1744
@joesandra1744 23 дня назад
Like the videos but how much is 392 miles in km?
@colinlambert882
@colinlambert882 25 дней назад
Much better seats and great value, if you can track down one of these almost non-existent £19 seats. Even five months in advance I couldn’t find anything in November for less than £23. I did find one single service in July with a ticket at £19.70. On a random day in September the average Lumo price was £27.37 - far cheaper than LNER but about 45% more than the stellar but elusive £19 fare. Fares for this week, may be no better than LNER. E.g. 11/06 Lumo 10:45 (featured in the video) £54.05; LNER @11: 00 £55.20, while the cheapest fare on a slower route is £35.22 or ironically almost £19 cheaper than Lumo!
@jordanrowland6269
@jordanrowland6269 13 дней назад
Could do with something like Lumo on the West Coast Main Line!
@nur_aryani
@nur_aryani 27 дней назад
I'm planning a trip to the UK in Dec > likely London - Edinburgh - Liverpool - Wrexham/Cardiff ... thank you for this video, likely will be booking this train trip once I have our dates firmed up!! Question, though... If we travel with luggages, seeing that passengers are allowed only One small bag and ONE medium sized luggage, how do we get on with a LARGE sized luggage plus another small luggage?
@TomCro73
@TomCro73 27 дней назад
You'd need to either use another operator, or consider a bag delivery service. Lumo will not allow you to board with an oversized bag.
@nur_aryani
@nur_aryani 26 дней назад
@@TomCro73 > Does the same restrictions apply to LNER? I'm seeing the ticket price to be more costly than LUMO.
@Paul_Lucas
@Paul_Lucas 26 дней назад
No, but if it cannot be stowed on the train, you can’t take it anyway, even with LNER. Depends how big the case is really! Lumo are quite strict about baggage allowance.
@JBFlytography
@JBFlytography 27 дней назад
Lumo are by far the best way to get between Edinburgh and London. I only use LNER if I really have to now.
@vinniechudam1835
@vinniechudam1835 27 дней назад
Leaves on the line, wrong type of snow. Now we have geese on the lines 😂 At least it wasn't a birdstrike!
@Bungle2010
@Bungle2010 23 дня назад
It really is amazing that even after a major near fatal rail accident people still leaf mulch as some kind of joke. And no one representing the rail industry has ever used the phrase "wrong kind of snow".
@georgewilder1076
@georgewilder1076 27 дней назад
Quite suprised😮😊 cheep.. with fabulous train journey.. reminding me of Virgin Trains
@helloed294
@helloed294 27 дней назад
5:46 Makes little sense. LNER Guards and crew always seem very visable when I travel with them. Plus in practice the Lumo staff do the same as other guards. They are on the platform when the train departs and they blow the whistle at departute time. Im not sure how you reached that conclusion.
@Paul_Lucas
@Paul_Lucas 27 дней назад
That isn’t true. Lumo does not have guards, and the staff on board have no safety critical duties. They aren’t involved in dispatching trains. The person on the platform you have seen will be platform staff. Their trains are Driver Only Operated, and it is the only long distance DOO operation in the UK.
@Liya-The-Cosplayer
@Liya-The-Cosplayer 24 дня назад
I'm going to Scotland this year
@user-vb3mp1he7u
@user-vb3mp1he7u 25 дней назад
Hello Paul my name is Roxanne I love watching you. Thank you for doing what you do for me I can't ask for anyone else... Have you ever been to Las Vegas Nevada ?? I was wondering if you could do.a video going from Las Vegas Nevada to the United Kingdom
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