British Train BATTLE - First Class LNER vs Budget Lumo 

Well said!

Nobody wants to ride brick seats to Edinburgh

Maybe a comparison between SWR and GWR from london to Exeter or vice versa.

Do GWR and cross country

To London paddington

Maybe even SWR vs Southern from london to Portsmouth harbour

I completely forgot that Seatfrog existed - definitely being re-downloaded now!

For someone who’s been on so many planes with extendable tray tables I’m surprised he hasn’t figured this one out

Indeed, I will take a closer look when I take the train or plane next time. I am planning to buy cheap train tickets to go out and travel recently.

Only difference? The seats on lner are rock hard, same for Gwr and all other class 800, lumo seats are far superior in terms on seats

​@@CourtMcCheese laughs in Leeds (we still get the Class 91)

In the UK the British spelling is "travelled". (From the President of Stop the Americanisation of British Spelling.)

@@whiteheatherclub I'm well versed in the English language. I am after all English and not American. But, I had my settings set as 'American English' on my laptop at the time of writing the original post and didn't notice at the time. I have rectified both issues now, and thank you for pointing this out.

Lumo seats are 10x better, scotrail trains are still best in uk imo

There a brand new TOC they just started in around October 2021

Until I saw it at Newcastle train station while coming home from seeing a football game, I'm not sure I knew what it was either. I have to go down into London then up north if I'm going to get one in the future, but could be tempting

hi can you bring big luggage with lumo?

@@sherock4761 There are racks at the end of each carriage for bigger luggage - but it fill up quick. 😀

@@RogEdwardsTV Thank You. Wonder if lner standard has better storage

​@@sherock4761i brought a large suitcase, two hand held bags, a bass guitar bag and a backpack and it all fit fine on a full train

If only Lumo stopped at York

On Lner, I found out that they have 3 menus available for first class. According to a video I saw recently, he went on Lner first class expecting a hot meal. Unfortunately, he didnt know that not all trains have hot meals. He found out that on Lner's website, there is a pdf file that shows you which train has which menu. He said that if you want a hot meal, look for the the trains that have the DINE menu. HE said that's the one that has a actual chef on the train.

@@WIgirl26 In my experience the menu advertised and the menu you get can be hit and miss. The journey I make to Inverness is supposedly a Dine menu but has been replaced on a number of occasions with the Dish menu. Over the years the service has declined and as was mentioned they are a lot less attentive. Unless I can get a cheap upgrade I bring my own food and suffer the rock hard seats in standard class.

@@worigami oh bummer. We were gonna make sure to pick the train with the DINE menu. Now we might not get it. Better warn my niece's. Thanks for the heads up.

​@@WIgirl26 Last time I came back in first class from Inverness they'd run out of some breakfast items before we got to Aviemore so people who joined the train had very limited options. I had raised this with LNER who stated that food and drink are "complimentary" so if you don't get what's advertised then tough. I don't choose first class for the food, the journey I make is 6.5 hours long so I make the choice based on comfort, the first class seats are a little more padded. Unless the first class option is competitive, generally it isn't, then I tend to use the Seatfrog app to bid on a cheap upgrade for my standard ticket. I've managed to get quite a few upgrades and averaged around £15 to £20 extra. Depends on the train and how busy it is.

Where did you book the ticket? Was it expensive? I used Trainpal to compare different companies and it is super efficient.

Lumo is quite new and there is a discount recently. I like it.

I need to know what that man said

@@ChrisHockman He was saying hello, I think?

Yeah limo worth a try

Bitte nicht

@@pottkind88 ice´s sind immer noch um welten besser als die azuma züge. in der zweiten klasse haben die sitzte nichtmal ne reclining function und sind steinhart

I like delays because you can get refunds :p

standard class seats on the new azuma trains are pretty crap in comparision to German ICE trains. Not to mention first class, LNER´s first class looks very cheap

Lumo also doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to use. It’s ridiculous that it can be cheaper to fly to a country in mainland Europe than travel by train domestically.

How did you mind the rock hard seats?

@@Mgameing123 it wasn't hard it was comfortable actually

@@deltaxphoenix6723 Oh thats interesting to hear. I've heard of how shit the seats are though one thing for sure. If you can then AVOID GWR LONG DISTANCE TRAVEL! SWR exists.

@@Mgameing123 true I just went for 3 hours so

@@deltaxphoenix6723 I went on London to Slough hop on the IET's even that was uncomfortable.

Lumo had the option to put whatever classes on their train and wished only to have one type.

Lumo chose to have standard class only as they are competing against the airlines not LNER. This is why Lumo don't stop at stations such as Doncaster and York

@@benalowery if you think that then you must have issues. the reason they did not stop is because they could not get traffic right. They have directly removed a large amount of revenue from LNER and First Group see them as a vital cash cow!

@@simonpilk I don’t think that at all, it’s in their franchise agreement. London to Edinburgh is one of the most popular domestic flight routes and going by train is a lot better for the environment. The one class type is so they can cram in as many people as they can, hence why there’s only a couple of table seats in the whole set

@@benalowery One issue that we clearly differ in then.

Always a good tip

They would have only have needed to do the one lol review as they're exactly the same on both trains :)

That's not my experience..............

I’ve not noticed any difference at all. I use the LNER app to book seats. Booking well in advance means you get the seat you want. The time of day you travel has the biggest impact on seat price.

I did think the prices should have been included. At first glance I thought it sounded like Lumo provided those snacks! You can also get alcohol in First Class, which can amount to a fair amount if you do it right.