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Long term review on two of the best budget packs #Naturehike #3ful #ultralight @Naturehike
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@MegaMastiffman Год назад

I agree I have and have had the Nature hike Rock and it’s been absolutely fine done everything iv asked and has plenty to go.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Yeah be interesting to see how many years I get out of it 👍

@MiBackpacking Год назад

Great review 🤙🏽 I’m still waiting for my Naturehike pack but this helps build more confidence in it. This pack seems to fit into the lightweight but sturdy category nicely.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Yes, and budget. Certainly cheaper than a lot of big brand bags out there that may not be as good. 👍

@erikmetal666 8 месяцев назад

Thank's a lot, i was considering both of them, i think i'll pick the NatureHike

@NoviceWildCamper 8 месяцев назад

No problem. Although 3ful sent me their upgraded version about I months ago which is reinforced and have changed a few things. I've used it constantly and so far no problems. I'll be doing a long term review on it bjt not till next year when it's been fully tested through winter as well 👍

@clarewheatley6514 Год назад

Many thanks for this. Have been looking for a light pack that doesn't come with the annoying lid that most larger ones have.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

A lot of people love the lid ones and I thought it was a great idea but in using it with my first ever pack I found it annoying too. The naturehike pack is a great pack for the price 👍

@mcam5087 Год назад

Damn, I’ve just bought a Qidian Pro, but I won’t be using it as frequently as you have, probably only once a month at this stage (until I retire in about 4 years). I’ve taken it on a few dry runs using a full size sleep pad in the back pocket and it’s been very comfortable. Looking forward to doing some overnighters soon in a local national park near me in Sydney. The lockdowns and rain events we’ve had here have really been a hindrance. Enjoying you channel.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Cheers buddy. The qidian is a good pack. I've enjoyed it and it's only that one part that has let it down. Fingers crossed yours will be good. At least you know where to keep an eye on it now 👍

@HardyBunster Год назад

My nature hike is still going strong and it’s the only pack I have used since you first did the review on it. 👍

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

That s aweslme. Glad it's worked for you. Certainly going to be carrying on with it going forward. Be interesting to see how many years I can get out of it. 👍

@wulliescottishoutdoors Год назад

Decent wee review mate I’ve always stuck with a bag with a good solid frame I’m using the osprey rook 65 the now but I’m looking for something new. Atb Wullie ✊🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Cheers wullie. You wouldn't go wrong with this one for sure 👍

@cliffspicer6555 Год назад

I bought the Nature Hike after watching many reviews including yours which was terrific. It has seen a lot of trail use this year and I too have had no issue at all with the quality or comfort. I have had mine slightly over 15kg but it really doesn't carry as well as some other packs at that weight but it's my fault and not theirs. They say what the limit is and if I chose to ignore them it's on me. The only one issue I have had with it was I thought about adjusting the hip belt and after trying to remove it from the velcro holding it down I noticed the velcro wasn't stitched as solid as I hoped and I could see it was coming away from the pack on one side a bit so I stopped and figure, if it seems to fit fine already, no sense trying something that may or may not improve the fit at cost of damaging the pack. I also bought I guess the updated one since it is made from a dyneema now but it looks the same and don't know if it makes much of a difference compared to the older one.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Thanks cliff. Yeah I'm not sure the dyneema is really dyneema but if it works as well then all good. Cheers for the comment and glad I helped in your choice 👍

@anthonyalpocetti5152 Месяц назад

Super-helpful! Many thanks for this comparison!

@NoviceWildCamper Месяц назад

No problem. Check out my recent one though as they sent me out the new version qidian pro and I've been using it the last year. 👍

@anthonyalpocetti5152 Месяц назад

@@NoviceWildCamper Oh, yes, I had seen that one first a good while ago. I didn't realize which order you made them in, but I see clearly now. These are very useful reviews! Thank you for taking the time to put them together.

@NoviceWildCamper Месяц назад

No problem 👍

@everyoneknowsadave3580 Год назад

It’s a great pack for the money …. I’ve used and abused mine also .. absolutely no problems with quality… one thing I did find is that my water bottle on my shoulder strap did rub on my clavicle last time … but it was my fault I switched from a 600 ml smart water bottle to something else … switched back .. hey presto no problems !! Great video as always …ATB Dave Mc

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Cheers dave. Yes it's a very overlooked bag I think. Will be interesting to see how many years we get out of it 👍

@Nickropolis 5 месяцев назад

Great review, I likely would've bought the 3F UL pack from aliexpress and been stuck with a ripped hip belt later on down the line.

@NoviceWildCamper 5 месяцев назад

If you check my later videos you'll see that they've sent me the new version. They've omproved it and reinforced it and I've been using one for around a year now and had no issues since. Looks like it's sorted now 👍

@MichaelAndersen_DK Год назад

Great comparison. I have a 3FUL , but the shoulder strap buckles are a weak spot. One broke after 10 hikes and the other one started to let the strap slip.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

That's not good. I didn't have any issues with those bit shows it's certainly not as good as the naturehike 👍

@ajcoops5919 Год назад

Great video pal,I like big heavy packs as like to carry the kitchen sink and I'm a big lad so no problems carrying my heavy loads,I have a karrimor predator 80-130l, Kelty Eagle 128l backpack, Osprey xenith 105l but my favourite is the Norrona Recon 125l Syncroflex pack as its probably the most comfortable rucksack you can buy in my opinion, expensive but worth the money Good luck on your future camps 👌

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Cheers Andrew. Not sure I could cope with that much weight 🤣 23kg was the most I've taken which was ok but I felt it the next day. I find I can get all my gear including luxury items down to a max of 14kg. It's only when I go overboard with beers and water that it goes above that. Cheers for watching 👍

@Useaname Год назад

Lots of big names there Andrew. Great if you have the cash to spend on those bags. Some don't.

@camping_guru_uk 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the vid, I've bought myself the Dyneema version and I love the fabric and the whole thing. Being a fat bloke there's just two things I wish were different. Firstly I'd love the chest strap to be 4 inches longer and most importantly it would be so good if they produced a longer belt, say up to 10" longer, so an XL belt, ideally the hip pads would be 3-4" inches longer and the strap an inch or two longer on each end. It would be so easy to offer this as an extra as the belt comes in and out so easily. I'll message NatureHike but I don't hold out much hope they will even answer.

@NoviceWildCamper 6 месяцев назад

Naturehike are normally pretty good at responding. The body measurements they show on the website are relatively small in comparison to what you get I think but obviously not designed for everyone. Depending where you are, there are a few companies out there that could make adjustments for you. If the hip belt was split then and additional velcro band stitched in it would extend it. Chest strap could easily be replaced too. Depends how far you want to go and spend really. Good luck 👍

@camping_guru_uk 6 месяцев назад

@@NoviceWildCamper I've already changed the chest strap and I've looked at just adding an infill strap to the belt buckle but better still I think I might be able to find a complete replacement longer belt, I'll see how I get on.

@trevknight 10 месяцев назад

I like your no BS approach, say it like it is, thanks!

@NoviceWildCamper 10 месяцев назад

Chertsey buddy. 3FUL have sent me the latest upgraded version of that pack to test out now. Been using it for around 6 months and so far no issues. They said they've sorted the hip belt problem. I'll do another review after more testing 👍

@fuffydingo Год назад

My Nature Hike bag is the same as yours but blue. Ordered the dyneema version from AliExpress. Not sure if it is dyneema, but whatever. I have put my pack through hell and back. It's dirty but not a single failure. Probably the best budget pack for it's size.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Definitely. It's an extremely good pack for its price 👌👍

@ianhassall3757 Год назад

Completed a 150km/5 day hike with my new Naturehike and apart from a bit of frame creaking it performed well. Last week I ordered a Lanshan 2 direct from 3F UL for $50 less than eBay and I got it today, I was thinking of getting the standard version of the rucksack shipped direct but the potential for ripping has put me off. Naturehike will do me until I get an Atom.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Great news. Yes it's odd that creaking. Mines never made a noise. Must be the later versions. 👍

@outdooradventure4590 Год назад

Great review buddy, DaleyOutdoors has said virtually the same to me, naturehike all the way, think that’s made my mind up, just need to tell Santa 👍😁

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

🤣 so long as you've been a good boy 👍

@outdooradventure4590 Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper always mate 😁🤔

@Canadian_Craftsman Год назад

I bought the Onetigris version and just a awesome pack especially for the price about 70 or 80$ can't beat it!!😁✌️💚✊️🔥

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Yeah seen that one. Looks good but I don't think its available at the moment.

@Canadian_Craftsman Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper of course so many great products discontinued oh well haha makes you appreciate it more cheers bud!!(=

@blairmeikle5192 Год назад

I find that i often don’t even use the hip strap and even when I do, most the weight is on the shoulder straps

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

The hip belts are designed to take the majority of the pack weight so it's not on your shoulders and back. That's why they're there. Sub 30l packs designed to take 4 or 5kg often don't have hip belts because they carry such little weight. I would check your weight and if its above 6 or 7kg I'd recommend using the hip belts tightly done to take the weight. You'll be doing your back and shoulders no good taking all the weight on them. 👍

@bcstewart89 Год назад

Have you considered buying some UHMW PE repair tape? It's $10 for like 16 meters of the stuff.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

No. To be honest it needs to be stitched and I haven't got the skills for that.

@TacBlades 10 месяцев назад

If you still have it i would be happy to try and repair and reinforce the 3ful pack with some dyneema grid stop for you if you want.

@NoviceWildCamper 10 месяцев назад

Hi buddy. Sorry I didn't see this message. You can have the oack if you want as they've sent me out a new version to try as they've Improved it due to these issues. Although I've cut the buckle off the wast strap as I stood on the naturehike one and broke it s you'd need to fix that too.

@TacBlades 10 месяцев назад

@@NoviceWildCamper no dont need it thanks for the offer, but if you ever need repairs just shout.

@NoviceWildCamper 10 месяцев назад

Cheers buddy.

@antduke2361 Год назад

Good review and points to note. I'm a lover of the Osprey Exos the trampoline back system is perfect and really helps the sweaty back ! I get all my stuff in the 38 but it's more a 41 L as it's large as I'm the same height as you. I'd be struggling to want to buy any.other pack but Osprey the customer service is great with the life time warranty . I wouldn't mind a bit larger pack though for longer trips I have found this summer I did more multi days away from home and it would be less of a stress having to be si methodical packing and easier to fit more food. Do you find the side pockets can fit water bottles in securely and easy access without them dripping out ?... Also I presume you have the large size?

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

The naturehike is the 60l version. I can reach the side pockets to get water out if you check my review link you'll see it in more detail there. I don't tend to keep bottles in the side pockets though as use them for tripod, tent poles, pegs, table leg if wild camping etc. Anything long and thin that I don't mind if it gets wet really. 👍

@antduke2361 Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper mate that just sounded wrong the last bit😂

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

😂 that won't reach for sure

@antduke2361 Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper I read a review that states the 60 weighs 1400 grams and grumbling about it been a fair way off claimed weight ? Can you enlighten me ?

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

I weighed it at exactly 1230g

@craig3401 Год назад

Tbh I'd rather carry a few hundred grams more for something that's going to last and that goes for all my gear now durability outweighs purely going for something lighter yes I keep an eye on my weighs but robustness and durability are my deciding factor

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Totally agree. It's done me well so far. Be interesting to see how many years I can get out of a £53 backpack. 👍

@CuriousGoose Год назад

If you had to get a 120l rucksack what would you get? I really liked the 3F UL Gear rucksack before watching this. Hopefully there will be a second version fixing this problem.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

I don't think I'd ever get a 120l rucksack 😂 I wouldn't be able to lift it.

@CuriousGoose Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper I literally ram every inch of my 120l

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

What do you put in it??? 😂

@CuriousGoose Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper ask Ash's Mum 😂 Tamar 2, OEX Traverse SIM, EuroHike Hybrid Down 500, Trangia 25 & fuel and ingredients for home style cooking, toiletries, gimbal, two powerbanks and wireless microphone. Oh and extra layers and beers and lighting. I've got a problem I know 😅

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

😂 I know the tamar is big but the rest shouldn't be an issue. Have you tried reducing it?

@michaelnicholson1817 Год назад

Alright mate do you think you would be able to strap a 15 cm / 50 cm nature hike tent. On side of the bag!

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Hi. Not sure if it will fit inside the side pockets but it has two compression straps each side that would certainly hold it. Personally if you wanted to pack it on the outside I would put it on the top as there are two tensioners that go over the roll top and that would probably be a better place to put it however you may then struggle to get the cover on if raining. 👍

@michaelnicholson1817 Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper hello thanks for the reply, would you say it would be better on top than on side. Plus are compression straps just above the side pockets ?.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

I would put it on top as I fill my side pockets with tripod, tent poles etc. but as mentioned if it rains the cover may not fit. The side pockets have two straps above it so you can load long things in and keep them tight to the pack or use them ti tighten the pack and keep the load inside secure.

@twighiker Год назад

I really can't get along with these frameless packs, and i've tried a few, even going back to the days of the Golight jam. Luckily my 15 year old fully framed Vaude Triset ultralight is still going strong. It's a 35+ 8lt and weight about 700gr. Not sure why they can't make somwething like that these days. Then again i'm not sure of the capacity of the two you show here. Probably higher capacity, hence the weight without a frame. I'll have a full on breakdown when the triset dies as it's no longer available.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Never heard of that bag. Just checked on outdoorgear website and it says its 1235g? The naturehike is 65l and the 3FUL is 56l so they are larger but odd that they show a different weight for yours.

@twighiker Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper there's two versions.. The triset and the triset ultralight. I reviewed both for Vaude. The ultralight is actually much more comfy. Though nowhere near as robust.

@twighiker Год назад

I've pm'd a pic on messenger.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Ah right. Cant find that one on the Internet. Did you just message me with it?

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Didn't see this 👍

@ZenHelix Год назад

Nice - thanks for the review! I also have the Naturehike and think it's great. I recently bought a Vango Ozone 40 as well and I know you have/had that one too...I'm guessing from the fact that it doesn't seem to be your bag of choice that it doesn't compare too well to the Naturehike? I haven't had a chance to properly try it out myself.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Thanks Colin. I have used it a few times but I find the hip belt straps annoying and also it doesn't seem very hard wearing. It already shows sign of wear and due to the colour looks filthy. I may test it out more and do a longer term review but will see. Thanks.

@ZenHelix Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper Interesting...I got it because I wanted something with a more traditional top lid for storing bits n bobs. Although I didn't realise the front pocket wasn't stretchy until I got it tbh, which is a shame. The stretchy pocket on the Naturehike is great. I think I paid £52 for the dyneema version of the Naturehike pack. Amazing value really.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Definitely a.good priced pack

@camping_guru_uk 3 месяца назад

Its been a while now and ive watched a few of your latest vids and you are back using the 3F UL bag, is there any reason you have moved away from the Rock 60l +5l...

@NoviceWildCamper 3 месяца назад

Only reason is because I am long term testing the new revised Qidian pro to see if the improvements have worked. Still love the naturehike rock though but will give final verdicts later this year on the 3FUL 👍

@camping_guru_uk 3 месяца назад

@@NoviceWildCamper cool, I've picked up a new 15D version of the Nature Hike Cloud Peak 2 in blue for £95 all in to go alongside my Yun Chaun. Hopefully for what I do I now have two tents that will sort me out. I've done a few mods to my Rock 60l+ so I might make a vid of those. Won't be the quality of yours which I have to say are looking spot on these days but anyway, I'll give it a go. Cheers.

@NoviceWildCamper 3 месяца назад

@@camping_guru_uk be interesting to see that 👍

@bigkahooney 2 месяца назад

@@NoviceWildCamperI'm looking at getting a new bag, which would you recommend so far? I'm about to buy a bergahaus trailhead 65 as it's within budget, but these have excited my tastebuds! Not sure whether to take the plunge with one of those you mention!

@NoviceWildCamper 2 месяца назад

They're both good bags tbh. I've just done a recent 12 month review on the new qidian pro and put the video up last week if you want to watch that. Tough decision between these two and boils down to if you want framed or not but can't compare it to others as I don't know them well enough to differentiate the pros and cons.

@barkingcatswow 11 месяцев назад

Is the naturehike 40L and 60L the same in torso height?

@NoviceWildCamper 11 месяцев назад

I'm not sure as I only own the 60l. If you check Naturehikes website they have all the measurements on there or ali express. 👍

@catherineweaver2540 Год назад

What's the shortest back length you can get it down to by adjusting the hip belt? 16/17 inches possible??

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Not sure. I would have to measure it.

@everyoneknowsadave3580 Год назад

Hi Catherine …. I’m 5-11” and I have mine set exactly in the middle of the Velcro pad …. From where the shoulder straps start to the middle of the hip belt is 18 1/2” … there’s about 3/4” adjustment either way … 17 3/4” to 19 1/4” … that’s one drawback with the Naturehike Rock series it really doesn’t work great for smaller stature people …. I would say 5’ 6” through to Mikes 6’ 2” is great so if you are in that range it will probably work for you 😄👍👍 ATB Dave Mc

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Oi I'm 6'4 ill have you know 😂 don't you watch any of my videos 🤣 thanks for that dave. Hope that helped Catherine 👍

@everyoneknowsadave3580 Год назад

@@NoviceWildCamper 😂😂 ‘twas a mere slip … my apologies 😊

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

🤣👍

@neillawson4252 Год назад

Hello,enjoyed the vid could you recommend a water filter ?cheers neil

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Definitely the katadyn befree. Had two sawyers before and they've not performed well. Katadyn has been excellent the last year of constant use. Great flow and easy to use and clean. Add to it the cnoc bag with 48mm thread for collecting water and its perfect. 👍

@neillawson4252 Год назад

Cheers for your reply will have a look for one ,no idea what you are talking about with the cronc bag and the 48mm thread though lol 😀

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Google cnoc vecto. 42mm sorry. It's a large 2 litre bag that great for collecting water and the katadyn befree filter screws directly on to it.

@neillawson4252 Год назад

Don’t be sorry it’s not your fault I haven’t got a clue lol ,iam just collecting gear /advice so I can try wild camping with my new Hennessy hyperlite zip cheers again appreciated 👀

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

No probs. Happy to answer any questions.

@Useaname Год назад

If people lost some weight, even a kilo or two, they'd be able to carry more stuff. I see lots of overweight outdoor folk doing these channels and complaining about carrying too much weight in their packs. Doh.

@NoviceWildCamper Год назад

Hope that's not a dig at me 🤣 but they all have to start somewhere. And generally though the bigger you are the more you can carry 🤷🏼‍♂️