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LONGINES Spirit Flyback Chronograph. The first one of its kind since 1968!

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The LONGINES Spirit Flyback Chronograph is the first one of its kind at Longines since 1968. In fact Longines invented the chronograph "Flyback" mechanism in 1925 and started to manufacture more and more chronographs equipped with it. In 1935 Longines filed a patent and one year later presented the first serial chronograph with "Flyback" function powered by the legendary Calibre 13ZN.
Curious? More to discover in our video... What a pleasure to unveil this rich history!
In 2023 the story continues with the extension of the Spirit collection with the new Flyback Chronograph we present in this video. Discover the watches and please share some thoughts with us.
THE ADVANTAGE OF A FLYBACK FUNCTION?
This mechanism enables to reset and start a new time measurement with a single press of the reset-push-piece ...
REFERENCE NUMBERS
L3.821.4.53.2/6/9
L3.821.4.93.2/6
CALIBRE
Longines exclusive self-winding column-wheel movement, L791.4,
COSC certified
13 1⁄4 lines, 28 jewels, 28'800 A/h (= 4Hz)
Technology/antimagnetic escapement: LIGA is a manufacturing process using Nickel-Phosphorus (NiP), which has the advantage of being non-magnetic. Nivarox uses this manufacturing process to produce the escapement wheel plate and the anchor body. Thanks to these two components coupled with the silicon balance spring, Longines not only meets the ISO 764 standard (magnetic resistant watch), the Spirit Flyback model exceeds them by around 10 times.
Power reserve of 68 hours
FUNCTIONS
Hours, minutes and seconds at 9 o’clock Flyback function
Chronograph
Central 60-second hand 30-minute counter at 3 o’clock
CASE
42 mm diameter, 17 mm thickness
Round, stainless steel
Sapphire glass with multi-layered anti-reflective coating on both sides
Screw-down crown
Transparent case back with 6 screws
Bidirectional rotating bezel with black or blue ceramic insert
Arabic numerals, squares and triangle coated with Super-LumiNova®
DIALS
Sunray black, applied Arabic numerals, Super-LumiNova®
Sunray blue, applied Arabic numerals, Super-LumiNova®
HANDS
Bronze filled with Super-LumiNova®
WATER-RESISTANCE
To 10 bar (100 meters)
BRACELETS/STRAPS
Brown leather or blue fabric strap with folding clasp and micro adjustment
PRICE
4800.-/4900.- Euro including 20 % VAT

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@vokkip.181 Год назад

Hello Alexander, such a great presention! Thank you indeed. 2 days ago I bought my Zulu Time watch. Loving it. Amazing to see what Longines is bringing up.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Bravo! Congratulations! May your Longines always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours...

@robertp5123 Год назад

Alexander, great episode and history of Longines.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

I am happy to read this!, thanks for sharing our passion!

@Matys1975 Год назад

Wow, these vintage chronographs are absolutely beautiful. Some things we’re just better back in the old times 😂

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Black or blue?

@attila2246 Год назад

Looks great from the front. Wish it was at least 3mm thinner otherwise it would be on my buy list... It's even thicker than the GO Seaq Pano date flyback which has way more complications!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

This is caused by the 7750 based calibre ... The NEW GO SeaQ chronograph measures 17,1 mm ... so no big difference... anyhow you must try these watches on your wrist first...

@steelsteez6118 Год назад

I agree! 17mm is too thick!

@garyboyle695 Год назад

@@steelsteez6118 That's the price you pay for a display case back. I'd rather have that than a sterile case back of a Rolex.

@42Watchman Год назад

This is a wonderful presentation, introducing Longines' Flyback, Chronograph. Longines has made major advances in regard to their movements, lately, and I'm more than happy that they are moving into the direction of the Limelight of their History...

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and passion with us!

@johnmonachelli5256 Год назад

Stunning piece thanks for sharing

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Black or Blue?

@johnmonachelli5256 Год назад

They are equally beautiful lol but if pressed black I guess

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing!

@BHNEOH Год назад

Blue would be my choice. Thank you for your comprehensive review with history telling behind the watch, learning from the history of Longines says so much about the brand and it’s rich archives. Appreciate your effort put in this video. Cheers!

@spazz27 Год назад

Love the very relevant info in all your videos… there is a lot of nonsense about movements (the Richemont co-lab for example), and it’s great to call out that nonsense. And in this video I was very pleased the bit at the end about COSC and how for decades manufacturers have bettered COSC standards internally, but for marketing purposes “chronometer” for some reason has value, at least for brands more in the mainstream… it’s a relief for me to hear this somewhere in RU-vid… finally 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@theaussiewhinger Год назад

Gorgeous and amazing to have again Longines producing a flyback chronograph! The numbers suggest quite a thick watch but I'd try it on first before passing judgement!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

That's exactly what you should do... Try first! Please share some thoughts with us thereafter....

@eliobaroudeur2589 Год назад

I've worked at Longines and I'm very impressed of their development. The Spirit collection is probably one of the best collection I've ever seen for long. Your video is great, keep doing it 👍

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing and your kind feedback! Which Longines is actually your favorite?

@briang530 Год назад

Wish they made it a manual wind and thinner, but I'm really glad to see Longines revisit its roots this way.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Yes, thanks for sharing! The construction of that automatic calibre leads to a thick case… a manual wound, thinner version with a good power reserve would be a very good alternative…

@auxiliary4023 Год назад

Whilst I agree with your comment, most people want an auto and couldn't be trusted with a manual wind IMO..

@markbailey5393 Год назад

The best video I have seen on the longines spirit flyback. Thank you!! I will be trying on the watch this weekend. It is a real beautiful watch(on video) let's see what's it like on the wrist. Keep up the good work. Thanks, Mark.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing your passion and thoughts with us! Enjoy the moment and please keep us posted…

@markbailey5393 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor tried on the flyback in black on the leather strap. Beautiful but I want to try on the blue.

@antonzadniprovskyi9759 Год назад

Very good-looking watch! But only for big mens with big wrists)) Also liked that Longines start to do an open case back in the Spirit collection. Hope they will continue to do that in future. Still waiting for a time only spirit watch) I know there is a titanium version but hope they will make more options with an open case back. Thank you for the video Alexander!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and passion with us!

@whizwheel9436 Год назад

Very good on reason for flyback! US navigators were issued (when I was there) Tag Heuer flyback stopwatches which were very useful for timing low-level legs on tactical airdrop missions. Being able to re-hack the watch at each turn made DR(dead-reckoning) more accurate. Keep up the great content Alexander! Prost!😁🍺

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Love your comment, thanks for sharing!

@Talon173 Год назад

Personally I love Rotor Wobble….one of the reasons I love the 7750/7753 so much…it’s like a little heartbeat on your wrist..reminds you that you’re wearing something mechanical

@albundy3929 Год назад

wobble makes me think cheap. poor design. plus so thick. suckers buy them up for thousands $$$.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Well, I hear you 😜

@TheGrenadier97 Год назад

Absolutely fantastic watches. Can't say which one is more beautiful.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Trying them on your wrist will give you the answer...

@jaybrockmeyer9218 Год назад

And it has an exhibition case back and no date, the format every watch on the planet should have, outstanding, wonderful !

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Love your comment, thanks for sharing!

@johnmanley4528 Год назад

I never get tired of the blue dials, Alexander 😊

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Me neither! 😉

@maalpeter Год назад

Fantastic review, thank you! Your videos are always the most informative! I actually fell in love with it when I saw it in the flesh and I was lucky enough to have been able to immediately buy it 😊 One point I stumbled upon: so COSC is certifying the movement only of course but Longines apparently does a testing or certification with the fully cased movement for this model, so slowly approaching the likes of higher positioned brands - if true, I find that remarkable and definitely worth mentioning!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing our passion and your kind feedback! Congratulations! Bravo! May your Spirit always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours… Longines exceeds all technical standards and delivers a much better quality then it charges compared to other brands…

@DonLee1980 Год назад

Longines has always been my father's dream watch. He told me he was so impressed by how thin their watches are. This watch is 17mm thick... wow.

@theaussiewhinger Год назад

They do make thin classic style watches too, like the Heritage Conquest and Flagship models, which your dad is probably thinking of.

@auxiliary4023 Год назад

Longines are really knocking it out the park with this Spirit collection and this flyback IMO is going to be a game changer in how they are viewed as a brand in the future. Their main market is the far east but I see them stealing some Omega fairy dust in Europe.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Love your passion, thanks for sharing!

@markbailey5393 Год назад

I also see them stealing from tudor. I was looking at a tudor myself but the longines is so stunning.

@seamasterist 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for your reply Alexander. Keep posting your fascinating and knowledgeable reviews.

@WatchAdvisor 6 месяцев назад

I will! Thanks for sharing our passion!

@Mario-ho5ro 10 месяцев назад

Top LONGINES!

@WatchAdvisor 10 месяцев назад

Value for the money + excellent quality!

@thomaslau2362 Год назад

Chrono r always on a higher price range. And longines nail it with the attention to details and the aesthetic design is awesome. Serve well as a dress watch with a executive look.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing your passion with us!

@beli5662 Год назад

A Stunning watch! It is thick, very thick but dont judge to fast, try it first! My speedy is 13 Bund the same but on the other hand IWC 3717 is 15. There is a difference between hand wounded and mechanical watches. Apart from thickness ....a beautiful watch. Type20 flayback of 21st century!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

... "Type20 flyback of 21st century!" Love your comment!

@udosmesovsky4249 Год назад

Had the possibility to check out the Spirit Flyback in black and blue. Love the black one. Its astonishing! Very good value for money! Did you know, that the folding clasp for the leatherstrap has a microadjustment button? Thats great. I can recommend this stunning watch to everyone, who wants to have a pilots Flyback-Chrono which stands out of the crowd and doesnt crack your bank account 👍

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Love your comment! Thanks for sharing!

@pruteanu6 Год назад

Lovely watches ... Longines has done it again ... definitely, I will try them to see how they fit

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Once you have done that please share some thoughts with us...

@kevinr206 Год назад

Love the style with no date, thinner with quick adjust clasp would make it a buy for me

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for your feedback!

@gilbertombp Год назад

It’s a beauty!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Which dial color would you choose?

@gilbertombp Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor the black. I know you like blue! 😀

@DavidDatura Год назад

Oh dear, 17mm thick! 🤯 that’s a dealbreaker I’m afraid. Maybe Longines will release a thinner manual wind only version down the line. But until then, not for me. A good looking nicely finished movement though. I particularly like the perlage. Longines could potentially knock 2 to 3mm off the thickness of the watch by getting rid of the winding rotor and it’s mechanism together with a solid rather than sapphire display back.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing! Just in case you once try the chronograph please share some thoughts with us...

@adrianwhitefang7615 Год назад

This Longines will definitely be on the wish list.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Please keep us posted and let me know if you have any questions...

@JogieGlenMait16 Год назад

I love the history lesson actually. I may not be able to afford this, but it's still something to admire.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Never say never… I keep my fingers crossed 🤞🏻

@NG77-dobswink 8 месяцев назад

I tried this watch on my wrist and I must say, it fits perfect! You don’t even know/see it’s 17mm thick. I bought it and still love the watch

@WatchAdvisor 8 месяцев назад

Congratulations! Thanks for sharing! May your Spirit always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours…

@marek8902 Год назад

Fantastic review as always! Keep the good work going 👏

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks, will do! 🙌🏻

@AlbertusMagnus_44 Год назад

17mm is a but thick, even for me. 42mm Dia is a perfect size, however. Any chance Longines will offer a hand-wound version? This watch is absolutely stunning!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Hand-wound version would diminish the thickness - yes!

@steelsteez6118 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor also getting rid of the rear exhibition crystal

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

@@steelsteez6118 Yep!

@alanrogers6885 Год назад

Lovely watch Longines are doing excellent work, quality cost still excellent.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

One just needs to compare Longines watches 1:1 to other brands…

@alanrogers6885 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor I do, that's why they are good value for what you get.

@seamasterist 6 месяцев назад

I have been in touch with you previously as I have had two Spirit Chonographs (not the flyback) since March 2022. Both have failed. First one had problem with chronograph second hand not resetting at 12 (5 seconds out on re-set). It was replaced after you put me in touch with Longines directly. Second replacement had similar, though not as bad issue. It was sent back for full service (4months) and was returned with hands generally misaligned throughout. Longines main service centre in UK confirmed this. Longines UK were sympathetic and helpful though I couldn't obtain a refund as original watch was purchased through an AD (who were hopeless). Anyway it's not all bad news as Longines allowed to choose a different watch from their range. I picked up the new Conquest Chronograph from their London Boutique last week and it is a gorgeous watch, which I am wearing on the black NATO. Surprised at the extra cost for the Conquest as it is a cam operated Chronograph , but does have ceramic bezel and sapphire caseback showing the L898.5 caliber. I have the black dial variant and so far so good (running at +/- 1-2 secs a day. Long may it continue. Do you have any plans to review this Conquest?

@WatchAdvisor 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing! No plans to review the Conquest in the moment… May yours continue to always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours….

@DWilliam1 Год назад

I own the Zulu Time GMT and love the fit and finish…it’s first rate. Interestingly, the strap is much nicer than the bracelet(I have both). I went to see the new fly back and it’s great, just a tad thick IMHO. I didn’t purchase as I already own a Breguet Type XX Transatlantique, but make no mistake Longines is putting out very high quality watches.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing your passion and thoughts with us!

@herrautisto5294 Год назад

It can't be this huge and "vintage"

@nikolastojadinovic2534 Год назад

Perfect size, very nice watch

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing our passion and your thoughts with us!

@SGTFlamatt 8 месяцев назад

Das ist ja mal ein krasses Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis 🫢😄 Danke für die vielen Details zu den technischen Daten 👌🏻

@WatchAdvisor 8 месяцев назад

Das freut mich zu lesen, lass mich wissen, ob Du noch Fragen hast…

@edgeyt1 Год назад

17mm thick? !!! I'd love to see a reissue of that Italian Navy Chronograph.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

One definitely needs to try this chronograph on the wrist before judging the thickness...

@auxiliary4023 11 месяцев назад

I today ordered a blue one on a bracelet. Got a great deal with a trade in for another Spirit Longines, I unbelievably made a hefty increase on what I paid for my Spirit with the trade in, now have their latest quick release bracelet and better clasp over the original butterfly clasp, at pre price increase rate this week and also Wolf watch winder thrown in to sweeten the deal. Happy!

@WatchAdvisor 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing, please keep us posted....

@auxiliary4023 10 месяцев назад

@@WatchAdvisor I now have it. Only criticism I have is the chronograph hand not having the red tip like the spirit chrono and the titanium model. It's a great watch and at a realistic price for this flyback feature.

@cmiller7299 Год назад

I would love it if they did a split seconds function in the future.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

I expect more interesting calibres to follow in the Spirit collection...

@rickjason215 Год назад

I like that Longines gives so much value for the price. I also feel this watch is just a little thick as are all the 7750 based movements.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Yes, this is mostly caused by the 7750 based calibre ... But you get an almost indestructible top calibre!

@shuycg Год назад

@@WatchAdvisorno, they get better profit margins by not spending on development from scratch.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

@@shuycg Longines due to its clear defined role in the Swatch Group may not develop a chronograph calibre from scratch and then position it against Omega/Blancpain/Breguet/… Not for the moment at least! But Longines could and would if they where supposed to do…

@MattJPN Год назад

I have a Rado with a 7770 in it, and while quite thick, it’s UFO-like case shape makes it work.

@rickjason215 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor 7750 has been around forever and is serviceable unlike most in house chronographs. It is the go to movement for most of a lower price range. It seems even thicker with the modifications of a vertical clutch and column wheel and now fly back capability. I guess the best deal for the moderately priced chronograph would be the Tudor, with the Breitling b01 movement. That is a terrific movement for the price of a Tudor chronograph.

@leeharding8306 Год назад

17mm thick 😬 beautiful looking watch though. This or the Tudor panda Alex 🤔 personally I would save some more and get a Speedmaster 👌🏼

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Try them all on your wrist and then let your heart decide... Thats the best advice I can give you...

@shuycg Год назад

Definetly wait for the Speedy. But its not the same type of watch, even if its a chronograph as well. The Tudor, yes, but that's a bit boring really and the finishing is superior on the Spirit. Tudor doesn't have the same heritage. And no spectacle on the back of it. No flyback either. Better clasp and pins/screws. I'd pick the Spirit even at 17mm.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

@@shuycg interesting read 😉

@peterspatz6918 15 дней назад

Ich bin auf der Suche, meine Citizen mag nicht mehr auf Sommerzeit umstellen, meine Vostok Kommandirske hat mich für Automaik begeistert, und ich kann was investieren. Longine spricht mich an, ich war erst war Feuer und Flamme für die Hydroconquest GMT, aber mehr und mehr gefällt mir die Flyback, besonsers in Scwarz. Viele meckern über die Höhe von 17mm. Meine Vostok mit Natoband ist da nicht niedriger, wobei das Gewicht da eine ganz andere Sache ist. Auf jedenfall ein tolles Review, den Aspekt mit der Unidirektionalen Windung, das sprechen die wenigsten tatsächlich an. Alles kein Showstopper, sondern der Charakter der Uhr, so würde ich mir das schönreden.😊

@WatchAdvisor 15 дней назад

Thanks for sharing your passion with us!

@TheHoth1 Год назад

Sometimes a big beefy watch has it own unique charm.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

I couldn't agree more!!!

@brucebarlow6604 Год назад

Very nice if I hadn’t have picked up my Hydroconquest Chronograph last year this would definitely be a contender

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

The chronograph will be part of the collection for a long time... 😜 So it's never too late!

@Nino-ok2fn Год назад

Très belle montre, la bleue est magnifique c’est une de mes marques préférées 😻

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

La bleu est aussi ma favorite !

@josefschmidt7782 Год назад

Hammer, ist die schön! 😍

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Welche gefällt Dir besser?

@josefschmidt7782 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor Die Blaue ist der Hit! Ich habe den blauen (normalen) Spirit Chronographen und der ist schon der Hammer.

@Arseization Год назад

Apart from it having a bit too much height - I would really love it if the 5 stars would not be on the dial. Idk why but this gives the watch a cheaper, fashion style look.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

The five stars a re a historical symbol of excellency at Longines and NOT "a cheaper, fashion style look."

@edjustice7755 Год назад

Gr8 review of both variants..Bracelet would be my choice...punching way above it's weight. Go find another Flyback COSC for this price, I don't think so...Blk on Bracelet looks so classic too! Thx for the share!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing your passion and thoughts with us!

@fuglyucker6238 Год назад

Love it, recently bought the zulu time and was blown away with that, also have the vhp gmt also great, so now it's saving up time again

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Please share some thoughts once you sw the chronographs in real...

@anthonystevens8683 Год назад

I am a bit of a fan of Longines and have a few of the classic models. I love the more recent releases of the Spirit line although I do not have one I have seen some of them in the flesh. The Zulu time GMT is brilliant as is the 37mm 3 hander. This new flyback looks like it will be just as good in the flesh. Yes it is on the thicker side housing the heavily modified Valjoux 7753 base movement with the column wheel replacing the cam, flyback and the increase in power reserve amongst other requirements from Longines (the 7753 is based on the 7750 with the crown access moved 90 degrees). As this model does not have a date complication that I prefer there is no need for the 'hidden' date advance pusher at the 10 position as needed by watches that also use a 7753 base. Based on the 7753 there would not be a ghost crown date position either. As with other Spirit models it's COSC certified as you mention but the dials are the cherry on the cake. Longines clearly put a lot of effort into the design here as they have with the other Spirit models, leaving out the hour counter for instance. The hour count should you need it can be read by simply rotating the bezel to align with the hour hand when starting the chronograph. As usual Alexander great photography and clear but simple to understand narration. Many thanks for sharing, very well done as always.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thank you for adding these interesting details and your kind feedback!

@emphasis20 Год назад

It's a nice watch, and I like the polished line going along the side of the case to help with alleviating some of the look of being a thick watch. I would prefer a closed case back though, seeing as it's a utility watch and a closed back might've helped shave off some thickness.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing! As much I agree with you concerning the case back you should know that a majority wants one... But then of course also complains about thickness :-))

@Talon173 Год назад

Looks great, really cool that Longines has produced another Flyback! Too big for my small wrist but I really appreciate this model

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Still give it a chance and try the chronograph... you never know...

@Hans-Georg_Buddne Год назад

Looks really cool, but unfortunately the height makes it impossible to wear this comfortably

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

You should still give it a try on your wrist… don’t forget that also the boxes sapphire crystal adds some height…

@olivertrott5338 Год назад

Sehr ähnlich zur Blancpain Air Command. Die ist auch 42,5 mm, aber nur 13,7 mm hoch, und wirkt dadurch auch an "normalen" Handgelenken nicht so wichtig wie die ansonsten sehr gelungene Longines. Jedoch auch mit über 20K recht teuer

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Die "Air Command" spielte schon noch mal in einer anderen Liga... ganz unabhängig von irgendwelchen Maßen... diese zu verglichen halte ich daher für gewagt...

@user-cf4zz7jk8e Год назад

nice balanced watch, thickness does not matter

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Have you been able to try the chronograph on your wrist?

@user-cf4zz7jk8e Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor yes!! it fits good on my 17.5cm wrist!

@svenm19740 Год назад

from top it’s a fantastic looking watch but to be honest 17mm is 4mm to thick in my opinion. By the way nice review

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and your kind feedback!

@Diderot68 Год назад

The vintage Longines look superb design wise. For this one, Longines must get it down to 41mm x 14mm

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

This could happen with a manually wound version of the calibre… but not with a newly designed calibre…

@josefschmidt7782 Год назад

Sehr interessant ist auch die geschichtliche Zusammenfassung.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Das freut mich zu lesen, danke für Dein nettes Feedback!

@edo7052 Год назад

Many lovely features but 17mm thickness really negatively affects the daily wearability. A nice watch for occasional casual wearing maybe? Good video as always 👍

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thickness is relative... you need to try the watch oil your wrist first...

@DWilliam1 Год назад

I own the Spirit Zulu Time and it’s a very good watch with a COSC movement and top of the line finishing. This watch looks great. My advice is to buy on the bracelet and buy the strap afterwards…it’s almost impossible to buy the bracelet afterwards.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing, that's valuable input....

@DWilliam1 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor It’s actually been a nightmare. You can’t order the bracelet online nor can you get it from the AD’s. You have to call the regional Swatch service center and go to the parts department. They seem woefully understaffed and may take hours to pick up the phone. When I did get through they frequently hung up on me. Once a live person got on it took me 1/2 an hour to explain to them what I needed. The cost is $395 +$10 shipping + tax. Once I gave them my credit card info and shipping info I thought I was done. I never received a confirmation email and there was a phantom charge of $0 put in my card. I haven’t had the spare two hours to try to call them again. There is an email option but frankly I’m not comfortable sending my card number through an email, especially since I have concerns about their competency. Too bad because the watch is great but limiting in the tan strap.

@pauledbrown Год назад

Nice watch. I think it looks best in black.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Bracelet or strap?

@pauledbrown Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor Strap

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing!

@whatever04811 Год назад

For people with normal wrist sizes I would recommend Sinn 356 Flieger Chronograph in 38.5mm.

@lesgillard985 Год назад

A lovely watch. It would be nice if it was 44 mm and green. Still it's a nice looking chunky watch in either colour. Presentation as expected.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

I expect more dial colors to follow soon...

@greggusan Год назад

The watch featured here is very nice, but too bulky for me. But holy cow, the vintage models shown were freakin stunning! I want me some of those.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing! Yes Longines has a VERY rich history!

@YanniBG Год назад

The 17 mm thickness might be way too much for most people. I know it is for me, although I have 7.5 " wrist. Also, I don't see the need for the rotating bezel here. It's not a diver's feature since it is bidirectional... I don't get it. It's a great looking piece nevertheless.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing! The bezel can be used for timing...

@agill2103 Год назад

Great review as always.....

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks again! Any thoughts about the chronograph?

@shuycg Год назад

@@WatchAdvisoryes I hope they do that. At 68h reserve and with improved estetic, it's worth it. Nobody would miss that rotor... My guess is this caliber is considerably smaller than the case. So it would look even better housed in a smaller case. They might use the bezel less 40 case of the Spirit. The 37 is certainly too small to house it and it would be disproportionately thick, still.

@shuycg Год назад

Frederic Constant have a flyback with date and exhibition back that's 13.8mm thick. Ok, only 50m water resistant. But 3.2mm for a screw down crown and extra seal... ETA needs to start from scratch. That 7750 architecture has lived its life.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

@@shuycg ETA manufactures together with Rolex the BEST mass manufactured mechanical calibres. No one else is at that technical level… thickness means reliability and stability though…

@shuycg Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor I didn't generalized so it doesn't matter if ETA and Rolex are the best at mass produced calibers. I only observe that the 7750 base architecture is a problem. They have refined it so much but still they are strating to loose their edge due to the inherent disadvantages of the platform. In the crono landscape there are many others that have thinner calibers, with less annoying rotors, for example.

@olerudjord3037 Год назад

Imagine if the Longines/Wittnauer won the moon watch competition between them, Omega and Rolex in the sixties 🫣 They would certainly be on par with Zenith today, and Omega and Longines might would have switched places in the Swatch hierarchy.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

It was Nicolas G. Hayek who decided that Longines should rank under Omega within the group he created and today is called the "Swatch Group"...

@AL-pc1rb Год назад

Funny timeline there, very central european: 1925, we did this. 1927, we did that. 1928, we did a thing. 1931 we made that. 1934 we did this. And from 1936-1946 nothing much happened, we uh, we were just uhh *sweating visibly* with our Canadian girlfriend in the south pole. Yeah that's it. We went on vacation to the south pole, it was very boring, no we didn't take any pictures, please no follow up questions! I'm glad they've started to downplay their connections with Lindbergh, finally.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Watchadvisor... Where the watches are the stars!

@ronintheamazon1492 11 месяцев назад

Big pet peeve of mine is when manufactures add a cool complication at the expense of making the movement substantially thicker. It really just comes across as laziness. Also no on the fly micro adjustment is inexcusable in 2023. The blue dial is stunning though

@WatchAdvisor 11 месяцев назад

ETA calibres aren't the smallest/thinnest - yes! BUT they are accurate, reliable and extreme robust

@tiagodvt Год назад

The case size is big but ok-ish, I could live with it. The thickness, no way. I just dont get most swiss chronos...and people always say it's due to the movement, etc. Wel....there are chinese mechanical chronos at 38mm out there, under 15mm thick (including a domed crystal) for the likes of 200 bucks. Im sure the swiss could develop a smaller thinner movement if they wanted to - they could use their vintage movements as a starting point of development. As it is, I'd rather get a PRX chrono, thinner and less expensive.

@pizza.doctor Год назад

should have had an hour bezel instead of a minute bezel to make up for the lack of hour subdial

@KennethWebb8822 Год назад

It has the same wobble and noise as a base 7753 movement. I guess it doesn’t use a vertical clutch like the other longines modified 7753 movements with the column wheel

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

As mentioned in the video... the new L791.4 "Flyback" is based on the L688.4 (ETA A08.L01) which is based on the L688 which is a derivate of the Valjoux 7750 ...

@AlienApe. Год назад

Really like the look of the black version. However, 17mm is a fatboy (!) and why no quick adjustment on the strap? Seriously, at this price - come on Longines!

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

"Quick adjustment on the strap?" What do you mean?

@69fastfurious Год назад

Have to agree on that quick adjustment on the fly/clasp no need to use a wood stick etc on the micro adjustment, after all 4K plus watch with push pins, never understand why does Longines cuts corners anyway, do like the watch design but it’s to big , have myself a Longines Hydroconquest 7750 2016 version half the price hand yes it’s heavy din’t sell it because was a gift, rather buy a Sinn Flieger Chronograph much better high tech no mention to COSC certified but have 4 models all are much accurate than my Longines even my Certina DS Action is more accurate any thank you for the videos, waiting for more from Geneve at Watch and Wonders fair 💯👍

@kokkien77 Год назад

It's nice but really thick. With this design housing 13ZN soul with thinner case, it would be a perfect chrono, not even daytona would come close. Wonder if Longines would ever bring back 13ZN......

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Finally someone claiming it!!! Bravo! I wanted to see and read the first comment that goes in that direction... YESSSSSSS, that would be to cool and YESSSSSSS this chronograph wouldn't compare to anything else on the market. Did you know that Günter Blümlein in the early days of A. Lange & Söhne took the calibre 13ZN as an inspiration for the design of the "Datograph" calibre?

@kokkien77 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor "Did you know that Günter Blümlein in the early days of A. Lange & Söhne took the calibre 13ZN as an inspiration for the design of the "Datograph" calibre?" Wow, that's new to me. 13ZN is still one of the best chrono movement ever made after so many decades. Really hope that 1 day I will see the revive of 13ZN, even 30CH is good enuff to kill off competitions.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

You know where Longines is positioned in the Swatch Group? Longines easily could and would do so… there must be a clear distance to Omega… 😉

@kokkien77 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor Yes, unfortunately. With Longines' history and long list of excellent movements, it should be up there with the big boys. Swatch is killing it.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

NO! Nicolas G. Hayek saved Longines... Longines wouldn't be there anymore...

@Ossory88 Год назад

Dear Alexander, just like with the gorgeous SeaQ Chrono: everything over 14mm is automatically a reason for disqualification for me. They could have made it thinner by scrapping the automatic rotor and getting rid of the transparent case back. Just saying ;-)

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

I hear you 🤷🏻‍♂️

@stevemoreno6241 Год назад

I have a lot of love for Longines. These new releases are wonderful. Since I prefer 40-42mm watches, I don't have a problem with the size of these.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Once you tried them share some thoughts with us please… 😉

@steelsteez6118 Год назад

Do you have a problem with the 17mm thickness though? That's the real question.

@stevemoreno6241 Год назад

@@steelsteez6118 It's a trade off of having an exhibition case back instead of a solid one so you can view the calibre inside of the watch. It is tall, but unless you are planning on wearing this watch with a dress shirt with a tight cuff, I think it's fine. This watch certainly has presence on the wrist which depending on the person wearing it, you'll either like it or not.

@Shankzzzz Год назад

I have the Zulu time black dial. Absolutly stunning in Person but Longines....pls....can U pls start to Line Up the bezel perfect in 12 pls? Mine also slightly Off. Same in the vid and saw many more which are Offset a Millimeter

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

you can't see one millimetre with your eyes...

@Shankzzzz Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor U definitly can See when ITS Offset. And thats annyoning If u pay that price

@sanghoonlee5171 Год назад

This would have been an excellent alternative to Blancpain Air Command which is also a flyback with 42mm of diameter and looks damn similar... had it not been for the 17mm height! It's a shame that the company that invented the flyback chrono struggles this badly with case thickness.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

This will never be an alternative to Blancpain since Blancpain plays in another league! Longines depends on the calibres of the Swatch Group it may use! Longines is not in the position to design/construct/manufacture a slim new chronograph calibre... If Longines did (and the brand could of course!) ... this calibre/watch would clearly intervene in the segment of Omega/Blancpain/Breguet ... and this will never happen ... #Sleepinggiant

@sadaka201 Год назад

Nice watch but clearly to thick with 17mm, IMO. Can be made better. (In general a problem with Loninges: Too thick watches).

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

This is caused by the 7750 based calibre ... But you get an almost indestructible technology!

@sleepyfishYTDP Год назад

Very nice watch... Should be called "Fatboy Flyback".. I like it ❤

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Once you tried it, please share some thoughts with us...

@ozmondos Год назад

What's up with the thickness? It's thicker than my ex's rear end

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

No one of you has seen the watch in real yet .... it is too early to discuss this... you need to try the chronograph first...

@shuycg Год назад

@@WatchAdvisorwell... How different can it be from the Spirit Chrono Pioneer? I tried that on and the dimensions are almost the same. The Pioneer is .5mm thinner at 16.5mm.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

That's a good argument! Still... one should try the chronograph...

@FurkanCemTurfanda Год назад

Very reminiscent of a Tag Heuer Autavia Flyback, at a much lower price. I'd say a good value.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing! Longines offers an incredible quality for a very reasonable price… Due to the smart platform strategy of the Swatch Group Longines has access to lots of high quality components the brand can use… This is comparable to Skoda in the Volkswagen Group. The latter is an outstanding car, but sold for small money…

3 месяца назад

I tried both and the Longines won by a mile! I got the titanium (grade 5) on a bracelet for 2K less than on the Tag tacky version only available on the thin leather strap.

@rubenalonso2075 Год назад

Hi!! Thanks a lot for the video!!! I am wondering if buying this one or the tudor chronograph black bay. What do you think??? Wich movement is better??? Thanks

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Compare them 1:1 on your wrist and PLEASE buy the one you like more... in terms of quality and calibre both watches are eye to eye...

@shouv Год назад

i guess if it were thinner and more wearable ..you'd have the case piece competing with swatch group brands like omega or entry level glashutte ...going by their finishing and dialwork they are certainly above the mido, tissot, hamilton and closer to the omegas ...

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Longines is much better than that! You should discover the "new" Longines... Share some feedback thereafter with us please...

@LulzRoyce 7 дней назад

8:50 this is what killed the watch for me. 17mm thick?!?!? Kill me

@WatchAdvisor 5 дней назад

This is due the ETA calibres used….

@jakob9792 Год назад

I really like the dial, two subdials and no date always looks very elegant compaired to the usual Layout with the date at 4. However 17 mm is just to thick for daily wearing, I used to own a Breitling superocean chronograph with the same height but had to sell it because wearing it a whole day especially during summer was a pain

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Thanks for sharing, but what happened in summer?

@jakob9792 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor it seems to me that the wrist expansion is greater at higher temperatures, plus the swet makes wearing big, heavy watches uncomfortable. Personally I would only buy a watch of this size again if it has some sort of quick adjustment on the bracelet. I guess a rubber strap would also solve the problem.

@conoroloughlin8249 4 месяца назад

Great review. New subscriber I'm really considering this the conquest chorono. And on a completely different itch i have a fancy to a Ball Roadmaster Pilot GMT what are your expert thoughts on Ball watches and more specifically the Roadmaster pilot?

@WatchAdvisor 4 месяца назад

Welcome to WatchAdvisor! Please keep us posted and let me know if you have any questions concerning the Longines … Unfortunately I can’t share my opinion concerning Ball with you since I have never had such a watch in my hands… Apologies!

@conoroloughlin8249 4 месяца назад

@@WatchAdvisor thanks for the reply yeah not many watch enthusits know about Ball rich history from the looks of what I've read solidly built. Will keep you posted on the longines as I've bought a couple over the years. 👍

@WatchAdvisor 4 месяца назад

Looking forward to it!

@jijdom Год назад

modern day watches released in ''vintage'' style while being 42+ mm. size of watches are just getting ridiculous, I will probably get the black bay 54 instead and I have a wrist size of 19cm/7.5 inch.

@dangerpowers5939 Год назад

Yeah i dont get it with making everything bigger... would love more watches at 39mm and below

@Haremhab11 Год назад

habe am WE die blaue Version getestet und muss sagen, eine tolle uhr, die mich aber live nicht so abgeholt hat wie auf den Bildern. Das verbaute Synthetikband war schrecklich, knochenhart und für mich nicht tragbar.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Was störte Dich abgesehen von dem Band… Letzteres kann ja durch ein anderes ersetzt werden… und die Bänder brauchen stets ein wenig um weich zu werden…

@Haremhab11 Год назад

@@WatchAdvisor klar, bei den Bändern wäre eh Stahl mein Favorit. Ich möchte mir zuerst noch die schwarze Variante anschauen, bevo4 ich mir ein endgültiges Urteil bilde. Was mir nicht gefallen hat, ist der Chrono Sekundenzeiger, die Raute an der Spitze ist zu klein und zu nah an der Rehaut.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Verstehe! Danke, bleib dran und melde Dich gerne wieder hier...

@time-out372 Год назад

Schöne Uhr und Flyback ist immer was tolles. Leider finde ich sie zu dick, sber sonst gute Uhr.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

Man sollte die jedenfalls mal am Handgelenk probiert haben… Zahlen sind nur die halbe Wahrheit…

@MrZZooh Год назад

I wish it was a full chrono. 30 minute chronos are kinda pointless unless they're made like the Omega Planet Ocean chronos that have the hour and minute counters on the same subdial.

@WatchAdvisor Год назад

What kind of long timing are you doing with your chronographs?

@MrZZooh Год назад

@WatchAdvisor I time my lunches. I time how long it takes me to finish a certain task at work. I time my workouts. Most of which are "usually", not always, under 1 hour BUT I sometimes time my rides to different part of town that take more than 2 hours! And compare it from day to day. So there is a use for it.