Lonzo Ball analysis, 2019: Scrub or star? 

@White卐power So you'll just blindly follow an advanced stat instead of regarding the opinion of someone who clearly knows more than you and is clearly already considering the advance metrics, but not to the exclusion of all else like you

What was wrong with the conclusion? He said he was a strong role-player who has the potential to become much better.

I almost always HATE RU-vid analysis, but this was quite good.

@Jesse Pinkman informative, objective, non-reactionary, backed up by facts, and chill

Which is why I subscribed. Beautifully and efficiently executed. Valuable content

And more still a year after that. Recite this video and overlay the old metrics with new ones.

@@sirbobdesign facts ESPECIALLY defensively

@@jcw034 u think? i think his most improved attribute is his shoots from deep. hes always been good defensively imo i think he was underrated b4 and now hes getting more recognition

@@ryanflynn6819 his shooting improved but he still only a spot up guy on most eyes. I think defensively he went from good to All defensive. Yes the 3 point shot helps and he took a giant leap this year there aswell. But he will always be what I call a toolbox. A guy that can pivot to differnet roles on a team as needed. Not too many guys are top 1% in 3 point shooting and defense along with those passing gifts that never left.

@@jcw034 facts bro I like that 👍 I agree with everything u just said, very insightful bro u have a good basketball mind

Fax

Why we all know he is a great role player by now

You guys judge people too quick, most players dont come to stardom till like their 4-6th year

@@basedkhalid It's true that it's too early to tell he's gonna be a bust. But it's been a while since we've been a 2nd overall pick so disapointing in his first two seasons. And last time we did it didn't turn out so well. He was supposed to be a skilled pointguard, and was more hyped about his offense than defense. Right now, he is unable to attack the rim because he's not efficient there, and he's too afraid to go to the line. (41% from the line this year, one of the worst percentage ever.), he's got no jumpshot, either catch and shooting or pulling up off the dribble, wich makes him almost unable to properly run a pnr as defense is not worried about him shooting. Only thing he is good at is playmaking, but even there he's nothing crazy. Some flashy passes for sure, but he has got a 2,5 assist / to ratio, wich is just a bit above average, so even there he's not that efficient. But, it's encouraging to see his defense improvement. As long as he'll stay focus on developing his game and not off the court stupids stuffs, and he keeps working on his mindset and skillset, he'll probably have a decent nba career. But I can't see him reaching the level he was expected to reach. And when it's all said and done, his legacy will suffer from the fact he was drafter 2nd overall, ahead of Tatum, Mitchell, Markkanen, Fox, Smith Jr, Collins, Adebayo, Allen, Anunoby, Kuzma, White, Hart, Bryant and morris.

@@dwighthoward8754 He has some big flaws but do several things well. Overall, I think he is basically a Ricky Rubio with better D but 45% FT. The free throw is a big problem because that means Lonzo can't stay on count late in game. He can be a good starter for a weak team, but will be hard to fit in an elite team in modern NBA with his problem with shooting and free throws. Even Chuck Hayes shoot 62% at FT.....

Lebron is terrified of the line especially in the 4th yet he’s one of the best ever?

@@Fernando20910 True. Same for Shaq or Wilt. But it's far too big of a stretch to compare them to Lonzo.

Courtland Williams that’s not exactly true because he isn’t good shooter an especially from the 3 point line an a lot of players who struggle like him never really develop 3 point shot and he’s he can’t set up his team an he’s bad at FT all things that ain’t promised he’ll get better at

@@trippiemane2342 Wtf are you talking about? Lonzo is already one of the best passers in te nba. And shooting can easily be taught. A lot of players didnt have one when they came into the league.

Courtland Williams your dellusional laker/ball bandwagon

Geo Rockmann I didn’t say passing of course he’s good passer an defender somewhat n rebounding other than those 3 he’s not good at everything else more negatives than positives from him

@@trippiemane2342 You said he can't set up his team. Also the only negative he has is scoring. So wtf you mean with more negatives than positives

If he gets better at attacking the rim, we are going to hear of Hack a Zo being a team's strategy going into important games.

@@hyperbomb02 lol if that happens it'd be great. hack a point guard. yay.

😂😂😂

@@andrezzy5.091 Lonzo should have a boat named "free throw" not shaq

@D Mente lmao can you name a player on the Lakers roster that has better assists than Lonzo?? Its ok....I'll wait

😂😂😂

Pretty much, but he can only be better or worse because no one can be like somebody Just words in my mind

And he will never be as good as Steph

FaZe Doge ikr 2.2 point

Enceladus, he will never be as good as Steph, because he is better than Steph. Lonzo is Steph with a 40 inch vertical, remember?

henry ha except he’s inconsistent. I mean he can hold Damien lillard to 5-17 12 points but then gets torched by Jeff Teague their next game.

@@calebstevens9446 Defense is inconsistent. Sometimes you're just off. It's much harder to play your best defense every game than your best offense.

​@@calebstevens9446 Good offense beats elite defense. Sometimes players just make shots/are hot even if they are defended perfectly. The best a defender can do is make the offensive player work hard, bother them, force them to their left when they prefer going right.. etc. This is especially the case when we're talking about defending on the perimeter. and I more or less think Lonzo is a scrub right now. His shot is straight up broken. It seems like the mechanics/physics of it only work for his 3 pointer in a couple spots. No midrange at all. I think he might have an ok floater, and he can finish layups/dunk. Except he won't layup/dunk often cause he can't drive to the rim due to risk of being fouled. His FT looks awful, I think he's 35% this season, Shaq was better than him. Which means he's unplayable during the playoffs due to hack-a-zo.

He doesn’t really need to be THAT good of a scorer, he just needs to be more of a threat on a pick and roll. Right now you just guard his drop off man, cause you know he’ll rarely finesse a shot in

Amazing passer. Lol.

0 points 6 rebounds 4 assists and you insane idiots will think those numbers dont describe him.

BeingWokeTV He holds opposing guards to around 38% shooting, is a good passer, the only knock on him is his poor shooting. However as a player he contributes on the defensive end and on offense he helps move the ball. He may be a terrible scorer but the NBA has poor shooters that are elite defensively. Marcus Smart, Roberson, Lonzo, Draymond, none of them are decent shooters, but they make their team so much better without even scoring. Smart entered the lineup and Boston is now at the 5th seed and he's a terrible shooter. For every star on a team you need a unselfish player who'll do the work.

I call him "live Lonzo" u just gotta watch him live.

@@BeingWokeTV Okay if I look at Jordans worst game he's complete ass according to your logic. You're just hating, don't deny it.

@@BeingWokeTV Wow you dumb ass you pick his worst to describe him lmao, What about the 20 12 9 game or the 21 7 6 game or the 16 10 10 game etc etc smh stop watching basketball I think tennis is more for you.

Lol

Chris Burnz really? I’m here because I got tired of watching gay porn on bigdaddycock.com

RAGE MASTER if anything we gotta respect your honesty 😂🤔

@@sparxx9537 lol

He'll honestly be an excellent role player. He just needed a good team

Larry Bird's combination of skills are incomparable to anyone else, individually other players have certain elements but no ones ever been able to do all the different things he can in the way he did

@@MarkB-qg9yv true, if not for his bad back....

pedanticism

The joke is that if you say "like the..." you are comparing. So then saying "incomparable" is a logic disjunction.

@@0xf7c8 and now it isn't funny anymore :(

True thats his weakness im a lonzo ball fan

U know Shaq in that game shot almost 40 free throws right so comparing that to lonzo isn't really a comparison

Splash Shot lol imagine being a fan of a trash player

He averages like 2 free throws a game dude. Maybe even 1. That stat isn’t that bad when you take into account how few he takes

BATTZ id argue that makes it worse. how the fuck are you a starting point guard averaging about 1 free throw a game?

When you're the #2 overall pick in the draft, being a role player means that you ARE a bust

@@sandman1347 Clearly not. Bust literally means that you're so useless to the point of not getting contract. I can see him being in the NBA for another 10 years just due to his already established skills 90% of the people who scream bust havent watched more than 10 of his recent games so their words dont mean jack shit

@@HaHaBear "Bust" means that you're a huge disappointment. Lonzo is that. People compared him to Jason Kidd and even Magic Johnson before he got into the league. He's not in the same universe as those guys and he's not even a future all star. He's a bust. That doesn't mean he won't have a long career. He probably will play another 10 years but he won't be a great player.

@@sandman1347 just stop. Go have a good look at the list of 2nd overall picks in the past 20+ years and tell me how you are so delusional to think that somehow you think that most of those players are supposedly stars and how lonzo is somehow significantly worse than 90% from that whole list - your very own definition of a "bust" Just the fact that you decided to bring up the whole "jason kidd and magic johnson" comparison goes to show that you're already bringing out one of the worst blatant hyperbole as if it was a valid reasoning for your own case. I could literally bring a fucking quote from SAS and say that lonzo was going to be a perennial superstar. Does that mean that that was the actual narrative? FUCK NO WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT SOME CRAZY PEOPLE SAY?!

@@HaHaBear When did I say that the definition had anything to do with being worse than 90% of #2 picks? Not sure what you're talking about. Lots of players end up being busts. It's just as likely for a high pick to be a bust as it is for them to be a star. Lonzo is not the biggest bust ever. He's no Sam Bowie and he's no Greg Oden. He is a bust though. If you don't agree, that's fine by me.

P Jenks he really hasn’t. Just being guarded less

@@thedarkfrost2351 That's a good point to a degree. I think you're mostly correct. My main issues with Lonzo are his ability to score around the basket( or lack thereof) and his three point scoring. I have seen him scoring around the basket more this season. I will say those scores are usually in transition but still he has become more consistent at those. I mean, he's actually driving to the basket and shooting a layup! I never would have saw that coming. His three point scoring is still inconsistent but when he's hot he does great. I still think he's better than before but maybe after the 21-22 season or something like that when he gets a contract.

@@piercejenkins13 dude was averaging 5 points on 30% in the bubble

@M if you really love 'soccer' you'd call it 'football' not 'soccer'

very true

A guy that probably won’t ever make all stars but it doesn’t matter. Still going to be a very valuable player for years to come...if he stays healthy.

NOBODY: LITERALLY NOBODY: YOU: "Ball is one of the BEST shooters in the league" 😐ROFL. His FG% this year is below league average for his position and below league average all-time.

@@gazanever6291 he shoots 42% from three on 7 attempts a game...he only takes 11 shots a game, so if 63% of his shots are threes and he's one of the most efficient three point shooters, is he not one of the best shooters? He didnt say scorer, he said shooter.

Maxime I don’t like people saying he is a bust but he sure garbage as of right now in his career bro

No vid Wit 1.5 subs how ?im not saying he is top player but he was proving he can play in this league

True bro

Hahahahaha

Now I can't unsee it

oh my

average player that costs a shit ton of money, bring up Caruso cut Zo and you can afford another semi star

Once a bust Always a bust of course excuses of a hater

Gregory Everson Caruso is nowhere near Lonzo in terms of skill

Damn you lame. Made a whole profile for this.

www.ebay.com/itm/brass-knuckles-Heavy-Gold-Steel-/143087378330

A talent of a *S C R U B.*

Johnny Walker you any better

Pablo Escobar you don’t know anything about basketball but keep talking

Keithon Bosfield secretly lavar?

Lmao

Wow 😂😂😂 thats honestly hilarious, how did you come up with that 😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@@kentuckyfan0619 His last name is ball?

Just an alt / obviously are you stupid?

@Dexxon Gaming Lol.

screw that, espn would ruin it with producers, politics, and format limitations

The surgery was minor. He didn't have a full offseason but he did improve from last year. His rookie season was complete garbage on the offensive end. This season he looks more aggressive.

@@BeingWokeTV 10 7 7 isn't pure garbage. That's actually a pretty incredible rookie year. Sure his shooting wasn't amazing but he makes up for that in basically every other facet of the game

@@MrImaWizard with as many touches and possessions he got last season, yea, it's really not that spectacular. It's adequate. Nothing more and nothing less.

10-7-7 in 35+ minutes with extremely low efficiency is garbage. If any other rookie got the minutes Lonzo got last year they would have put much better numbers than that.

@@BeingWokeTV bruh even averaging 7 assists is something many rookie point guards don't do let alone 7 rebounds. He also missed 30+ games so who knows how those numbers could have changed. Sure he wasnt efficient shooting at all but that's really not his game. His 7 assists and 7 rebounds a game that is where he is valuable. His shooting is also massively improving and will probably keep getting better. Hes not a shooter though that's not what the Lakers drafted him as. Hes a pure playmaker on both ends.

Not really, Lavar is a marketing genuis. A lot of people wouldn't pay attention to Zo if his dad didn't go on his marketing spree.

@@daedot8433 - Lonzo's play, while good at times, hasn't merited major attention. His father's seeking fame by taking advantage of his son's position. He's a stage father who's, quite frankly, a royal pain in the butt like all stage parents are. He thinks he knows everything and his constant deriding of the team and the coach for not treating his son like a superstar has led the Lakers to openly tell him to shut up and mind his own business. Lonzo Ball is not a superstar, not yet anyway, but if his father continues to cause distractions it could have serious implications. The Lakers could have trouble if they try to trade Ball and he could have some problems in free agency because teams generally wouldn't want to put up with his father's shenanigans. Only time will tell.

@@daedot8433 That's great and all but when is he gonna learn to shut the hell up and let his kid just play ball. He always gotta say something to make Lonzo look bad and doesn't realize how stupid it is. He's screwing his kids over and he can't even see it. When things aren't how he likes it, he goes in another direction like that's gonna work forever. He screwed the younger two out of UCLA. He could very well screw Lonzo out of the NBA if he doesn't shut up. Lonzo needs to cut the corporate tie from his father before he ruins everything. He's doing more harm than good. Market the brand on the outside, don't publicly critique his coach and organization, the hell is wrong with you? The team that took him second overall, that's who ur calling out ?! Talking about LeBron like that wasn't Lonzo's favorite player growing up, and like he can't help Lonzo. Talks about Luke Walton, yet wants his son to go to an 11-44 team instead of one that has a chance to make the postseason. Then, he wants some team to pick up all three of his boys? Who the hell are you?! Do the Curry/Morris brothers play on the same teams? Why should your boys? FOH! LaVar is a fool! theundefeated.com/features/its-time-for-lonzo-ball-to-fire-lavar

@@joshs4594 His father gets him a lot of attention which is GOOD, Lavar has caused the Lakers to draft Lonzo for business reasons so people would pay attention to him which is a GOOD thing if you ask me.

@@daedot8433 - First and foremost, Lonzo's on the team to win, not for attention. It's not Lavar's place to criticize management or the coach through the media for not treating Lonzo like a superstar, which he is not. Winning pays more than a man hyper-promoting his son because it would garner Lonzo respect as a winning ballplayer, not a tool for his father's aspirations for fame and fortune, which I believe is Lavar's motivation.

Except Green is a much better defender, and was a better shooter.

Draymond is a starter and central piece on a team that won multiple titles. He is an all star and DPOY. A great passer, passer, shotblocker and vocal leader. Under no circumstances he should be compared with Lonzo. Lonzo at this point is not even an NBA player. Shooting is so key for a guard in today's game that the absence of any shooting ability plus his inability to finish around the basket makes him utterly inadequate.

@@omnivorous65 bobo ka ba first 2 years ni Draymond ano ginagawa nya? Bago dumating si Steve Kerr ano role ni Draymond? Bata pa si Lonzo kaya nga sinabi ko na pag nabigyan yan ng well constructed team at system dun sya mag eexcel.... bobo

Every young player has that potential tbh he is an overworshipped piece of garbage

@@omnivorous65 thank you. Lonzo is just not even close to an All Star caliber NBA player. His talents and overall skills were just way overhyped since the beginning and he has yet to prove his "potential" which I seriously believe he doesn't have a lot more to give

kags I think he might be an Allstar next year if he keeps it up, hopefully him and Zion stay healthy so Pels can go deep in the playoffs

@@henry7486 well the thing is if the pels have 2 all stars it'll be ingram and zion. They'll have to make a bunch of noise to get lonzo in as well.

Gershom Tan Yeah especially in the Western Conference, too many good gaurds

Told everyone from the start, gonna be special

Zion and Zo are a match made in heaven and now that Lonzo fixed his jumpshot, wow that Pelicans team is looking amazing

people dont gaurd Zo cuz he cant shoot

0 points 5 rebounds 3 assists,

@@Ssv-pt3st ol

Ssv 123 lmao!

I see you are very good in an if game.lets put it this way if i had 90inch vertical nobody would talk about lebron today lol

He had over 100games to prove hes good.he didnt hes average.not counting him out just now..average

Yes definitely. The Lakers knew years ago that AD would ask for a trade. So they decided to draft a bad player and make him LOOK good rather then draft a good player.

Yeah legm took lonzo rather than a actually good player to trade for Ad in the future -_-

The Lakers had some dark years of tanking that brought them into drafting top picks including Julius Randle, D'Angelo Russell, Brandon Ingram, and Lonzo Ball. They continued to tank with each pick only to later trade or release each of them in the process that allowed more cap space for LeBron James to arrive via free agency and then Anthony Davis by trading away Ingram and Ball!

R FlorezD take that up with Luke. He has horrible offensive sets and utilizes not only Lonzo but Ingram and Svi and Lance poorly

His other move is: Run to the rim and drop off pass to Mcgee. Stands in left corner and pass. Stands in right corner and pass

I Hate The Games Where Lonzo Isn't Allowed To Dominate The Ball!

Zo, rebounds and assist are down almost avg of 2 each, at the end of the year if he like this, its either invest in Zo, or start thinking about another plan, LeBron may retire at anytime

Imagine thinking Zo has decent defense

@@gregoryeverson741 Lebron isnt retiring until his contract is up. Which is in 3.5 seasons

@@dboii9741 imagine being ignorant and not looking at any of lonzos defensive numbers or watching a single game of his and thinking he's a bad defender

@@xancer. yeah I'm almost positive I saw that he ranked top 3 in defense amongst point guards last year

Lonzo signature shoe, the AIR BALL!

Crisp P Bacon you and your limited basketball knowledge

pissed my pants laughing m8

@@dboii9741 😂 W

you could say the same thing about Rondo, yet he’s still an NBA champion...

Welcome to the new world

Wow

lol ucla played nobody until the tournament they lost both in their conference and in the tournament because of a weak schedule. lonzo does not have as much potential as you think mostly because of a leg injury he seemed to suffer in high school

Do the lakers have time for him to develop? If he develops?

Consistent shooter? Please did you see his shooting percentage this season? lol plus nba is way different than in college

Bomac94 I’m saying I think he can become a consistent solid shooter in the nba. It’s not about form it’s about repetition and muscles memory.

Omari Evans why y’all so quick to forget that with the hype that he got he should have been Luca docig with amazing defense and the very least. He already didn’t leave up to the hype so stop it.

Lonzo was like drafting a good bench player

home9dog2blue it is also kuzmas 2nd year and he was the 27th pick instead of the 2nd

VKR RECORDS Kuzma spend more time in college is older. Some players develop better come on now.

I don’t understand how you can be a bust in your second season lmao

Gregory Everson wrong

T Yang probably cuz hes a fan of bron and has watched his games thousand times so he understands lebron. It probably helped him understand the game better too.

Exactly. He was on the same page with Lebron if only Luke Walton trusted him as a point guard since he would have Ingram as a point guard as well as Rondo and even sometimes Stevens.

Stop

L

Lost Thoughts but ppl don’t wanna talk about the record with him n bron on the floor together

@@aaronkincade8835 exactly

I do an they're a whole different team with scrubs like Air Ball not poisoning the damn game. They're in 1st place with them overrated ass young core bullshit finally over. Air Ball is a damn scrub an he doesn't want to get better. He wants to be a Kardashian.

Kagami = Zion

I scrolled all the way down to find where my anime fam was at! These highlights had a double meaning haha

Makes sense

@@fakephoenixprince and they're currently in one of the top 5 worst teams this season, Zion's Kuroko is not good enough

@Malik Kisitu the fact that he's a PG and he's not the one taking initiative to make plays and plays catch-and-shoot instead despite being terrible shooter,j ust shows his Basketball IQ and how much effort he's putting, remember that PGs are the ones who start the offense, they are the ones who bring up the ball and yet ur not even doing that? That's ur own problem.

lol Nigga please 25 games at best and that's a stretch

sticK&Clutch are you on drugs? This isn’t the east fool

@Condie Kane I can't disagree with you bro!! MJ was once skinny and got tired of loosing to the Pistons, he got in the gym put on weight and muscle and became a legendary monster in the NBA

@K Will Ingram won't be better than AD,none of those picks will be better than AD, Lonzo will never fix his jumper and will always be a liability offensively, and JHart plays to much fucking fortnite. Lakers can find more impactful role players than Lonzo and Hart in FA

He is gonna get benched in New Orleans

HiT oR mIsS, i GuEsS they NevEr mISS HuH!

@@agod4788 YoU gOt A bOyFrIeNd I bEt He DoEsN't KiSs Ya!

he's average right now, might be good one day, great is improbable.

Sean C. He’s not even good, he’ll at best be a less intelligent Rajon Rondo

@@edgarlopez8986 lol... You really don't like him don't you

Shiroski O'charos ita true though

@@justinebautista1383 no it's not

Stfu with that stupid shit already

Lol nah this is still funny

Lmfao

@@alasdairmacintyre9383 chill brah

@@alasdairmacintyre9383 u mad bro? Lonzo airball bust 😂

It would the same except the shooting. He still lacks being able to finish through contact.

Lakers have no more PASS-1st point guards left on the roster after trading for Anthony Davis. 😀😀😀 That's a good thing Time for a confident 3-point shooter.

They might trade the bum to chicago.

ha right. i’m so tired of niggas making super squads this one will be a giant fail. bring getting old, ad is ad but unless they get a kyrie or something this dynasty will fold fast

True

@T4RUN are you referring to your lack of knowledge on the topic?

@T4RUN so that's a yes? I'm sorry that you put such emphasis on attention, maybe you should talk to your therapist about it? Daddy not around much? Do you need a hug?

thats kinda hard to do at his age. changing your shot is like changing your whole game.

Michael Gasteratos Tee Hee

Michael Gasteratos just stop

Yes. The best basketball team would be 5 scorers who could also defend. Sadly Lonzo can't score, shoots 41% at the free throw line and as the video shows, he doesn't really create the play himself

I'm not saying that he doesn't need to score at all but he just does so many things to help his team win without scoring.

If he cant score then the team as a whole is easier to defend

''many'' You mean pass the ball and that's it? He sucks in almost everything they hype him for.

Yes that’s literally what the whole point of the game is to score. You get other pieces because not everyone has the talent to score so you have to settle for “passers” who can’t score like Lonzo who’s not even all that good of a passer

There is a lot way better new guys then him, why should nba lose time on Lonzo and not invest in some one different? Well u know, his dad payed a lot money for him, so deal with it... Its not qbout talent its just bout how reach his family is...

Yeah you're right ...playing with Zion should bump up his free throw % up to 46% and short game jumper to like 48%

LOL HOW? he already had kuzma , mcgeec lebron and he still nearly shite. playing with zion wont suddenly let him make all those threes, stop gambling on defense and make free throws.

@@noblesavvy7803 Dude only 21 bro plus his game doesn't fit with Lebron or Rondo's Plus he was hurt last year and let's not forget his dad's best friend took alot from him so I think he was jus mentally drained

Let's not forget Steph Curry was not even considered trade worthy by his 3rd season

@@frankcramo4414 Its a microwave age bro everybody learns and develops on their own pace dude had alot of distractions but I think a fresh start not jus Zion gon help him out ALOT

Def not a star. But a great role player

Julian Ames lance tried to be flashy lmao

I'd trade him

For which PG? That’s what they said about Curry when he shot too many threes, was an average passer and was injury-prone with his ankle. I’d never trade Ball because he’s a hard player to find. Superstars are not hard to find. We all know who they are and they follow money and location. Lakers have both. I’d get a coach that let’s him do his thing like when they fired Mark Jackson and got him out of the way of the GS players.

you were right