Hey guys, i have the Cs-7070 which are a lil bigger and let me tell you, they sound very good! I also have Polk, Tannoy, Monitor Audio and 5 different amps, they take advantage of the cabinet volume although the bass isnt huge but respectable, also depends on the music you are listening to: Massive attacks Mezzanine sound very good, Alice in chains Dirt also crisp and punchy and Mozarts string works also sound detailed and neutral, dont bash them on the fact that they have small magnets, magnet size isnt the only thing that matters in Speaker acoustics! 7/10 for me.
Hi! I know that pioneer used strontium magnets but I not sure these woofers has strontium. The strontium magnet stronger than the normal ferrite type. Strontium or not, these are good old fashioned cheap entry level loudspeakers by pioneer.
a lot of speakers also use neodymium magnets, but neodymium and strontium not cheap and these speakers not real audio crossover, which means, there no expensive parts used.
I owned those speakes , and they were not bad at all . Yes the magnet is small but the bass is actually pretty good , and the quality is not bad at all . For the price thei are very good.
Put some sound absorbers on the 3 walls and u got sound u can not believe I have cs767 padded 3 walls and they sound so awesome u cannot imagine i just wont sell them
@@mhp_loudspeakers3768 Not really, higher Qes associated with underpowered motor structures leads to post impulse oscillation being sustained for longer hence produces stronger, but peaky bass response. For really deep bass you need high compliance combined with large moving mass, hence a high and linear BL to keep both in check.
Yes, they very cheap, but the look, the sound, is very good(for me), and very cool... Nice bass, nice medium- High note. At the time, I'v listen this speaker in a shop center, whit JBL, B&W, Indiana Line, and......WEL, the Piooner sound best !!!.... UNBELIEVEBLE...
Capacitor Classic Should Be BiPolar for Tweeter 2.2 50v , & for Midrange 4.7 50v NonPolar, or The Bass Should Be 120Watts Bigger Magnet , its like Fake or Small?
@@Techscrews In SJ 200 inside is the same like presented in this movie. Should i replace cables between the speaker to the thicker ex. 2x 1,5mm2 or at least 0.75mm2 ? and addictional crossover will be good choise ? Speakers are good for me, and it is better sound quality than previous ones, that i had. Any sugestion to improve ?
@@Techscrews shit.., this is my 'new' set. nevertheless columns are better than previous one's that i had. Im not sure what difference will be between 'premium columns' and "older vintage" or "budget hifi" columns ? I also had soft material and foam to improve inside resonances.
Hello, i have pioneer cs-722 speakers but need to change two woofer 12", can u recommend me a compatible woofer, please need to listen again this speakers
Very very cheap quality.... Very poor magnet size used in that full range woofer driver... & by the way this not a absolute 3way individual channel speaker this is a full range system only 2HF speakers are getting crossover HF using capacitor. But the bass woofer getting full range which is not pure bass reproduction 50hz below, That's why this a full range 2way speaker not 3way... & the acoustic insulation & cabinet wood looks very cheap & the bass horn port is not U shaped or not too deeper inserted. Very cheap.
Acoustically it is a 3way system, woofer will tend to first narrow its reproduction of mid/high tones before dropping in level due to the source dimension approaching the wavelength reproduced, with some mild cone break-up modes in between, similar assertion applies to the lower treble driver. Natural roll-off approaches 6dB per octave, hence can match a series capacitor roll-off of ... 6dB/oct. perfectly, if done right. One could also argue, that the fewer elements the better for the sake of simplicity of the signal path. In very few designs does the woofer reproduce freqencies below 50Hz only, firstly it would then become technically a subwoofer, requiring another beefy driver in in separate enclosure to take over from there, a midwoofer, not a midrange driver. Crossover at 500Hz yes, quite often, 50Hz seldom -not only does it call for expensive passive elements to cross over that low, but with impedance peaks associated with working near driver's mechnical resonances not easy to implement. Other than that it is as basic as it gets, and yeah, that magnet/diaphragm diameter disparity in a ported enclosure raises a lot of questions. One of the Helmholtz resonator implementation principles is low Qts, perhaps Cms is very low and alleviates low Bl to some extent.
@@joseantoniogarciahernandez4808 Hi Jose, not into PA/DJ speakers myself, it will be loud for sure. Manufacturers exaggerate low frequency response capability by not listing tolerance brackets, 60Hz at -3dB and 35Hz at -10dB might describe the LF extension of the exact same speaker. For PA/DJ speakers bass reflex tuning frequency will usually be rather high to make it play louder at the expense of bass extension.
Tank you very very much for this video that I see how the crossovers are poor quality or let's say awful. There is also no crossover for the woofer (there should at least be a coil for the low freguency sounds to filter). The pioneer just have connected the woofer in parallel to the circuit and put only inadequate simple capacitors for the medium and the tweeter. In fact, we can simply say that there is no crossover circuit at all. Fucked up!!! I was thinking to buy one of these pioneer series (cs 3070 or 5070 or maybe 7070 etc), however I absolutely gave up buying after watched this. Thanks to this video again for this so valuable information 👏👏👏
Acoustically it is a 3way system, woofer will tend to first narrow its reproduction of mid/high tones before dropping in level due to the source dimension approaching the wavelength reproduced, with some mild cone break-up modes in between, similar assertion applies to the lower treble driver. Natural roll-off approaches 6dB per octave, hence can match a series capacitor roll-off of ... 6dB/oct. perfectly, if done right. One could also argue, that the fewer elements the better for the sake of simplicity of the signal path.
So what vintage Japanese company brand is best with quality build of speakers in your opinion? I got Hitachi, its decent but i expect a little more. Old pioneer was always one of the shitest japanese brand. But i must said i got pioneer headphones and they are well builded and sounding, so they can do something good if they want it.
For 40 dollars more get the ELAC debut 6.2. The crossovers on it cost more than the sum of those pioneer parts. Hear tje difference of Lo Fi and Hi Fi.
@@Techscrews The Altec Lansing speakers that came with my dell back in 2003, sound far better than those Pioneers. Those speakers have practically zero crossover network. The are crap compared to other speakers in that respective category.
