Queen Victoria wore only dark purple and other dark colours and heavy fabrics as a teenager. Black was reserved to only mourning people, so she wore other edgy dark colours when girls her age were supposed to wear light and happy colours and light fabrics! So she was a goth, in a way 😂
Lord Jesus Christ is coming back everyone, please don’t worship celebrities and entertainment, focus on Him alone. I promise there’s more to life than money, partying, homosexuality and music. Hell is real, repent from sinning confess your sins and ask God to forgive you, I know He will if you’re sincere. Anyone who thinks the Name of Lord Jesus Christ is a joke, boldly mocks and scorns Him or takes pleasure in people who do is in for a big unpleasant surprise on judgement day IF they don’t repent and follow Lord Jesus Christ. Hell is very hot, people please repent! In the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ, Amen 🙏💪✝️💜❤️✝️! Idolatry such as, Islam, Catholicism, Sangomaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Santa Clausism, Confucianism, New Age, Science, Evolution, halloweenism, Harry Potterism, Politics, Donald Trumpism, Easter Bunnyism and other religions/faiths that are outside Biblical Christianity lead to hell! Don’t believe them, believe the Almighty God the Father of Lord Jesus Christ, who begot Him. Our Creator, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is mighty, He doesn’t need a woman to beget a son, He is God. I choose to put my faith in a God who can do anything and everything, a God who has unlimited and infinite power to beget! So, it’s time to confess that Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord and to believe that He died and rose from the grave after three days and you shall be saved if you only obey Him by praying, worshipping, praising, reading the Bible and living holy and righteously according to the Bible. You have to endure until the end, carry your cross daily and build your relationship with God by following Lord Jesus daily until the end. You must never renounce your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, there’s hell awaiting those who reject/deny Lord Jesus Christ and those who continue living sinfully, even the Christians who don’t want to repent will face the same fate, so please repent beloved people, in Lord Jesus Christ’s mighty and precious Name, Amen.
Janus Nightshade That’s primarily because Queen Victoria also spent a significant amount of her reign in mourning - most notably her husband. Her youthful tendency towards dark colours and then later usage of mourning colours did establish a tone of darker colours predominating in fashion through the Victorian period. It’s part of the reason for the notable contrast in the Edwardian period in which light flowing garments became increasingly common for day wear
This video is really neat but my one critique is that the timeline/history DEEPLY needed to acknowledge punk (especially in the late 70s) and goth in the 80s! So fundamental to all of this.
Exactly, I enjoy the video and the tips but my favourite decade in terms of aesthetics and alternative fashion is the 80s, so I was kinda disappointed to not hear anything about... yknow, the building blocks of the whole thing
as someone who is very involved in alternative culture and fashion this video felt very very surface level and inauthentic. I’d rather people just stick to their own lanes rather than trying to cover everything when they clearly don’t know what they’re talking about. Like imagine this girl trying doing an accurate, informed or credible read on the development of streetwear/rap fashion aesthetics. It would not work, so why does she feel emboldened to try and cover this? Im not trying to hate or anything, all fashion is a reflection of who we are and this isn’t who she is and that’s okay, but she should stick to what she knows
Your videos have helped me so much. I’ve been battling disordered eating since I was a young teen. Your videos have helped me disconnect from the idea that I need to look a certain way to dress how I want. I always wondering why I didn’t look like other beautiful people while wearing the clothes they were wearing. Now I know that I am just as gorgeous as those people, I just wasn’t dressing with my kibbe type in mind; nor was I dressing for the effect I wanted. Thank you so much! Keep on kicking ass!
Oh man as a soft dramatic with edgy style I was really hoping you’d have something to say on the topic but my type was the only type not really addressed in this video. But I get why, there are very few good examples. I’ve spent my whole life trying to figure out how to look edgy but still respect my lines and you’re right, it’s not easy and it’s not the way the other types do it. I think the secret is in a lot of ways our type on its own quite edgy or intimidating. I used to try to mix in a lot of gamine punk styles and it was very unflattering for whole entire looks, but now I find that if I lean harder into the soft dramatic type I look more intimidating. I would say the distressed thing is also correct. Perfectly following our lines but in darker colors makes us look very put together, diva-esqe, and maybe even unapproachable which is on its own intimidating. Adding in a distressed element (like messy makeup or ripped tights) to that really sends it into edgy territory. There are still some gamine elements in there, like fishnet shirts under my dresses or chokers, but just a very little bit and overall I find that the more soft dramatic I dress, the edgier it is as long as style wise I bring in a lot of punk reminiscent elements, like black and leather and fishnet.
It seems so difficult to find soft dramatic content in general. The outfit examples generally nice but are either from the 1950's or for older women, and I'm in college, I want to dress like I'm in college. However, I'm absolutely all for dressing like Taylor Momsen, so I guess I'll go with that.
love the way you describe how hard it is for a soft dramatic to look 'edgier'. To try looking more goth or punk or rock, those styles still require a woman to look cute in her darkness I think. Dramatics, FN and SD send a different vibe, a much more masculine kind of power or edge. How could we look super cute and smallish when we're basically taller than half of the guys around us? Us SD already ARE intimidating in our strong diva essence. :D My tips on how to look edgy and still embrace the tall curvy woman vibes I send to the world: Makeup & hair * dyed my hair black * my hair is long and sleek, so I made it an advantage and they look like a long black curtain that contrasts with my chunky cheeks and lips and bold eyes * either a natural makeup with emphasized brows and 2 layers of mascara or * a thick black winged eyeliner AND smokey eyes at once to emphasize that contrast even more * sometimes a deep red lip too Clothing 'rules' * not just pure black clothes but also dark forest green, ruby red, dark aubergine, deep navy, charcoal grey, and for contrast bright red and pure white, neutral tan (the color of your skin) * use color blocks - combine neutrals with red, or combine neutrals with ONE of the 'more colorful' colors like deep green, navy, aubergine * materials like leather, cashmere, denim, satin, lace, suede * for prints, a schoolgirl-vibe diamond print or b&w leopard print * lines must be contransting, include both skinny and chunky, hugging the body and a bit of separates Outfits * a little washed-out, charcoal grey oversized metal band t-shirt, tucked into hig waisted skinny jeans, black leather belt with metallic ornamemt buck, black leather boots kind of like Dr. Martens that can be chunky in vertical lines (a platform, not heels) fitting the narrowness of the feet and ankles, a relaxed black leather jacket, cropped below the waist, a kind of rocker style, uneven hem, some fussy details like multiple zippers * matte leggings, very oversized tan croptop, oversized white cropped puffer jacket, dr. Martens and a smaller bun on top of the head, black thin cotton bag with logo/print * off shoulders black long sleeve top, black high waisted tight leather miniskirt, black suede boots that cover calfs or even overknee boots, big heavy at least knee- long charcoal grey smoothly fitting wool coat with fur around the neck and wrists, leather gloves * black fitting tank top, low waisted slightly oversized tan cargo pants in thick cotton cut similarly as mumjeans, chains, Dr. Martens * menswear - black high-waisted jeans or charcoal grey wide leg flowy pants, oversized black jacket with angular shoulder pads and slightly longer hemline, tight fitting white tee with round neckline, white sneakers, gold hoops, a rectangle notebook bag * dark mini turtleneck dress hugging the curves, black harness on top, high booties (overknee or lower ones with sexy stockings that have this 'I am wearing overknee socks' feel) * white long sleeve body with scoop neckline, harness, red A-line diamond print miniskirt, sexy stockings, Dr.Martens, long black&red nails * black&white leopard turtleneck, black high waisted skinny jeans, soft suede black cropped jacket lined with black fur, sharp pointed outline booties, red lipstick * white blouse with a deep heart neckline and long sharp puffed sleeves, charcoal grey ripped skinny jeans, Dr Martens * black lace brallete top, wide leg flowy charcoal grey pants, red lips, wet hair style, long earrings, sharp stilletos, a soft black fur to hug around shoulders, metallic bag Maybe it's just me but I feel super edgy & powerful and yet feminine in this kind of clothing
This is perfect, I love your point about leaning into your type to emphasize it. I noticed your section was the shortest but as a classic I also feel let down. My inner style is much more flamboyant natural but looks horrible on me and so I try to incorporate classic lines and I do get a lot of compliments. But the suggestions here were so, so, so boring. Now I am wondering if perhaps as the other barely covered type I should also lean into my type by wearing extremely well tailored clothes...
@rory9587 honestly it really does get exhausting finding a video that says "the secret to soft dramatics" and then the whole video is about some old Holly wood stuff or Sofia Vergara (love her but don't enjoy her style). I don't want to be trendy but I also don't want to wear peplum tops and heavy jewelry
as a soft classic with alternative style i’ve been struggling to figure this out for my whole life as i’ve always felt I’ve looked like a caricature when i dress more gothic. as there’s so little info about soft classics online, this was so helpful, thank you!!
Lord Jesus Christ is coming back everyone, please don’t worship celebrities and entertainment, focus on Him alone. I promise there’s more to life than money, partying, homosexuality and music. Hell is real, repent from sinning confess your sins and ask God to forgive you, I know He will if you’re sincere. Anyone who thinks the Name of Lord Jesus Christ is a joke, boldly mocks and scorns Him or takes pleasure in people who do is in for a big unpleasant surprise on judgement day IF they don’t repent and follow Lord Jesus Christ. Hell is very hot, people please repent! In the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ, Amen 🙏💪✝️💜❤️✝️! Idolatry such as, Islam, Catholicism, Sangomaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Santa Clausism, Confucianism, New Age, Science, Evolution, halloweenism, Harry Potterism, Politics, Donald Trumpism, Easter Bunnyism and other religions/faiths that are outside Biblical Christianity lead to hell! Don’t believe them, believe the Almighty God the Father of Lord Jesus Christ, who begot Him. Our Creator, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is mighty, He doesn’t need a woman to beget a son, He is God. I choose to put my faith in a God who can do anything and everything, a God who has unlimited and infinite power to beget! So, it’s time to confess that Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord and to believe that He died and rose from the grave after three days and you shall be saved if you only obey Him by praying, worshipping, praising, reading the Bible and living holy and righteously according to the Bible. You have to endure until the end, carry your cross daily and build your relationship with God by following Lord Jesus daily until the end. You must never renounce your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, there’s hell awaiting those who reject/deny Lord Jesus Christ and those who continue living sinfully, even the Christians who don’t want to repent will face the same fate, so please repent beloved people, in Lord Jesus Christ’s mighty and precious Name, Amen.
Im a dramatic classic and used to be really into looking goth/grunge now i im more flexible with how edgy i want to look and have found its easier to look cooler and still look edgy . Just the other day i had a black mini skirt and black top just very plain and simple really clean lines, put on a white oversized shirt with black vertical like brush strokes (kinda wider lines , but not too much , again the whole moderate patterns thing) and it looked really cool especially with my black heart shaped sunglasses and then a deep muted red lipstick that kinda matches my hair and i have never felt so good about how i looked ! Even the pics were all really cool and i am the opposite of photogenic so i guess this whole kibbe thing really helped me out
@@blondie9909 aigjt girl but we need pics cuz imagination bad, do you maybe have instagram? Also me as a sc I just wear whatever n hope it doesnt look like a total disaster n w makeup I cant wear dark eyeshadow or even put it under my eyes since that just makes me look cheap so all I can do is eyeliner💀
Lord Jesus Christ is coming back everyone, please don’t worship celebrities and entertainment, focus on Him alone. I promise there’s more to life than money, partying, homosexuality and music. Hell is real, repent from sinning confess your sins and ask God to forgive you, I know He will if you’re sincere. Anyone who thinks the Name of Lord Jesus Christ is a joke, boldly mocks and scorns Him or takes pleasure in people who do is in for a big unpleasant surprise on judgement day IF they don’t repent and follow Lord Jesus Christ. Hell is very hot, people please repent! In the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ, Amen 🙏💪✝️💜❤️✝️! Idolatry such as, Islam, Catholicism, Sangomaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Santa Clausism, Confucianism, New Age, Science, Evolution, halloweenism, Harry Potterism, Politics, Donald Trumpism, Easter Bunnyism and other religions/faiths that are outside Biblical Christianity lead to hell! Don’t believe them, believe the Almighty God the Father of Lord Jesus Christ, who begot Him. Our Creator, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is mighty, He doesn’t need a woman to beget a son, He is God. I choose to put my faith in a God who can do anything and everything, a God who has unlimited and infinite power to beget! So, it’s time to confess that Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord and to believe that He died and rose from the grave after three days and you shall be saved if you only obey Him by praying, worshipping, praising, reading the Bible and living holy and righteously according to the Bible. You have to endure until the end, carry your cross daily and build your relationship with God by following Lord Jesus daily until the end. You must never renounce your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, there’s hell awaiting those who reject/deny Lord Jesus Christ and those who continue living sinfully, even the Christians who don’t want to repent will face the same fate, so please repent beloved people, in Lord Jesus Christ’s mighty and precious Name, Amen.
From what you just described, you must be thrilled with Jenna Ortegas Wednesday!!! She’s a soft gamine who plays into that darker side, and damn does she do it well.
Interesting that you say promiscuity is a defining feature because when I dress in ways that feel edgy to me I’m more feeling that yes, I’m a very sexual being but don’t touch. It makes me feel strong and independent. It seems like Jo Marsh was the same way.
It was about this part I stopped watching. These "edgy" subcultures, as punk, grunge, goth and so forth, were an expression of the opposite and a voice against the obvious promiscuity and superficiality in the music and film industries, and society as a whole. Although outsiders of these cultures would maybe have this type of interpretation, promiscuity is absolutely not included in the description of these subcultures, but political thought, creativity and intelligence -to some degree. These started as an external expression of internal thoughts and feelings, usually as a political protest, but are now copied as an external style by mainstream people without understanding.
great tips as always, thank you! a soft natural with ingénue essence here, trying so hard to not be perceived as “a laid back girl next door, playing costume with her edgy sister’s wardrobe”
Man...I spent 20 minutes waiting for you to get to SD and you spent, like, one minute on it and showed one picture of Christina Hendricks in a slightly faded chambray shirt, looking like a PTA mum.
I'm a TR that has always dressed edgy, and couldn't necessarily describe how. But now I see how (the mixed textures and patterns in particular) and i agree with what you've said for romantics also applying to TR. You've pretty much nailed everything and it's a much deeper look at edgy than I've seen anywhere else!
I'm a romantic but I've never really been into the traditional romantic look (flowers, drapes etc) and light colours, especially being a winter. It doesn't mean I dress edgy all the time but what you said about contradicting the lines is true! If I wear straight lined, flat clothes, I definitely get the edgy look.
I believe I’m a very petite romantic with ingénue essence, but I typically bring in contradictory elements to make me seem more dramatic or seem taller, similar to what Kate would do. I loved Taylor Ms styles and her look in Gossip girl was definitely essential in my young inspiration
Hey, I have the same body type and essence as you and was wondering what things you do to look edgier while still maintaining ur figure. I like cropped/fitted leather jackets, black belts with silver/metal details, combat boots,
@@essenceocean595 I definitely love leather jackets and skirts or items with chains, buckles, studs, patches, or rips, I love mesh dresses/tops and will wear a statement bra underneath, I used to be only silver as a teen but the last few years I’ve been incorporating gold and rose gold metals. I have a huge platform shoe collection too
@@sierraking3171 ur seriously edgy! I could never pull off the statement bra under mesh. And Ive also recently been getting into gold as well. Small world
@@essenceocean595 It’s definitely out of my comfort zone but I like that about it. Also for pulling more of my romantic feminine elements I love satin or silk dresses and skirts, off the shoulder tops and sleeves with details like ribbons or puffy sleeves (almost regency or cottage style) I hope this helps!
Loved this and very helpful. I hope you are planning one for each “how to look more ______”. I’m drawn to a little of the romantic, a little natural and are neither of those.
you didn't finish your comment 😝 but yes i definitely agree, I have the most conventionally masculine body type in kibbe but my style is hyperfem :( but hearing them feminine fabrics can make me look edgy is really nice, because I love looking simultaneously edgy.
As a Winter and Romantic, I've never tried dressing edgy because it doesn't look natural for me. Most of my clothes are ultra feminine. But this inspired me to try. Edit: Oh wait, scratch that. In my profile pic I dressed edgy. I wore red lipstick, black eyeshadow and all black tight leggings, round black boots and fluffy gloves :p
This makes complete sense bc I believe I'm a gamine, but I usually dress more masculine, and it gives off the edgy vibe I'm going for. On the flip side, when I dress in more classic apparel, I look very formal without trying. Now I know why! But if I try wearing many accessories, or a lot of makeup, I look a hot mess. I do look great with short hair like you said, and when I grow out my hair, I give off a whimsical hippy look which I'm into lol. Just now learning about this. But I think as we age, and our shapes and weight distribution changes a bit, it's probably more difficult for ppl to figure out what they are.
Your descriptions are spot on! I must be gamine because long dresses make me pop.. I'm so glad I finally started wearing them after years of hearing that they will only make me "look short"
What we see today as alternative is deeply rooted in goth. In the very late 70s and the early til mid 80s that style was defined through music. Look at what people would wear in the batcave for example. For me though I listen to goth music it was always too rigid. So you’re right, everyone needs to find their own style, that fits their type. I am naturally blonde and have blue/green eyes but my skin tone is warm, nothing cool about me. So, I have to wear gold jewelry, silver washes me out. I exclusively wear black, I tried some colors but it just isn’t me. I think , I only truly knew my own style around 26 honestly and now enjoy fashion. When I was a teenager my body type wasn’t in, so I just felt wrong and uninterested in fashion. Now I need to find out my type.
This is an interesting concept. I think a good example of the dissonance you spoke of is demonstrated in Ashley Simpson when she was attempting to look edgy. It never seemed to work for her.
As a winter, i always wondered why id look edgier wearing white and blonde hair instead of my natural dark hair and black outfits, so that's why, thanks :D
This video just closed a huge gap for me. Thank you a lot for making it. I love edgy styles and ever since I know my type I struggled combining my own lines with the edgy look I love. But I always loved sort of Gamine lines on me (I'm a Soft Natural) and felt drawn to them. I also prefer Flamboyant Natural lines over Soft Natural lines. Maybe I never was off track. I just prefer a different look for myself rather than looking just "pretty". I incorporate Natural lines all the time, and noticed that loose shirts, and more casual clothes don't look sloppy on me either, but I feel "boring" wearing only my own lines. I love adding a little edge to the overall look. I also prefer high necklines and crop tops paired with very high waisted pants. I know how to look chic if I want to, but that's often times not what I really want. Thanks again, I think this was just the missing link I was looking for.
i think she meant that it "looks" restricting. not literally and physically restricting. more like how it appears more restricting rather than flowy styles
Punk was the most edgy you could be during the second half of the 70ths and far into the 80ths. During the 80ths "depprock" a'la Joan Jett was also quite edgy. A little bit forecoming the goth style.
Yes, I was watching for the DC content. I’m DC and a dark winter. I feel like I look like I’m playing at classic or playing at romantic if I don’t have some Yang elements. Ellie did make one suggestion that stuck with me, I do look edgy if I respect my lines but wear lace. But I need more than this. lol
As a soft dramatic, I think I look particularly edgy when I wear for example a boxy, masculine top with a long line on the bottom. In general masculine clothes that make you look broadened in one part of your body, that is contrasted by a more long, (in line with our dramatic line) other item to balance out the boxyness works really well. Due to our softness we often look very feminine, so one item that swallows the frame with harshness makes us look really non-feminine and in turn edgy
as an edgy flamgam myself, i have to say i entirely disagree about it being hard for us to look edgy. i mean, look at Liza Minnelli, Debbie Harry, or Emma Roberts as Madison Montgomery. i think that combining broken lines, some natural silhouettes, and generally details that can be construed as "edgy" is an excellent way to channel the edgy style. also flamboyant gamines can pull off dark and bold eye makeup very easily. the advice you gave to soft gamines applies to flamboyant gamines as well, so i'm a little disappointed that your section on flamboyant gamines felt so limited. further, even looking at the verified flamgams only, there are a lot of women with very strong features that are not at all cutesy or costumey. sure, the look didn't suit Zooey Deschanel very well, but there are absolutely flamboyant gamines who wear the style well. this is a great video overall, don't get me wrong, i just was expecting a little more from the section on my type.
I think as a video that covers all body types, we all tend to think our own was not covered enough. I'm a soft gamine, and I feel like my type is definitely harder than FG, which for me she also didn't cover enough xD
FG too and yeah, I’d agree that dressing “edgy” is one of the easiest things to pull off personally. Even the way David Kibbe describes FG’s in Metamorphosis translates pretty seamlessly to an edgy style. For example: - “youthfully bold and brassy essence” - “Innately, you are Yang in energy (aggressive and dynamic), Yin in youthfulness (fresh).” - “The underlying theme for your appearance is: "Rules were made to be broken!" - “This is the best way for the world to see your totally unique combination of wit, fire, zest, and spunk.”
Agreed! FGs are the epitome of effortless edginess, it's in their very essence. She mentions FGs in lace and corsets as looking like wearing costumes: stuff that is anathema for us and that FGs should avoid like a plague anyway. What is edgy if not FGs in their recommended clothes: ankle boots, cuffed boyfriend jeans and tee with a bold print with a dash of our usual bold makeup (be it accentuated eyes or lips) and tousled hair, I ask you!? 🤭🤘💀
Yeah... She lost me at that. FG here and I'm THE EPITOME of "edgy", vampiric, dark and extravagant! Biker jackets & contrasting cute dresses, heavy boots, bold jewellery, messy hair in all colours, dark smokey eyes or black winged eyeliner - how is that not edgy?? Zoe Kravitz, Lily Rose Depp, Gwen Stefani, Lisa Bonnet and other iconic FGs - not edgy? Really? I mean... Bish, please.😏
Poppy might also be a flamboyant gamine as well (I could be wrong though), and she wears a lot of edgy outfits. I think she's a great example of someone who pulls it off effortlessly as well.
Okay this was very validating to hear. People say wear fitted tops for romantics etc, but occasionally I like to look more androgynous and edgy. My favorite jacket is a cropped giant 80s/90s style puffy (?) jacket, and I feel really awesome wearing it and tends to get a lot of compliments. It does help my waist by being cropped, but doesn't fit a lot of romantic advice. I never considered that wearing what's opposite can be considered edgy but I totally see it and agree
But Rihanna is the most iconic and edgy Theatrical romantic! Sad you didn't use her as a reference, I was looking forward to hearing more about that as a TR. We are often overlooked and lumped in with pure romantics.
I agree! It should be easier to make a TR look edgy, not more difficult. Also, I disagree that winters are rare, and they are not all dark, as a matter of fact they make the best high contrast champagne blondes (and lighter) of any season.
I'm so grateful I found your channel. I've been binge watching and trying to absorb it all. I am still confused about what i am but after hearing about how wearing black for a winter makes them look more elegant, I'm thinking i must be a winter because that's definitely true of me. Again, thanks for all the material! Its really helpful and very appreciated.
I would love to see more videos like this! I’m a Theatrical Romantic with a deep love for sharp edges, military styles, stiff fabrics and lots of structure. I’d be so interested in how to lean into that look without -it- wearing -me-.
Yay! I’m so pleased you found this helpful as a Romantic, I think R types tend to struggle the most with finding more modern examples so glad to know this helps a little ☺️☺️
the body type sections were good and can be helpful but unfortunately the "alternative history" part was inaccurate and lacking .. most of it was dedicated to mainstream things that wouldnt be considered alternative, while not even mentioning punk or subsequent goth which are the most important and influential alternative subcultures. also i would definitely touch on the political and the music aspects of subcultures esp when talking abt punk and goth as they are very importnt and the fashion comes after that. the mainstream nowadays often tries to take inspiration from goth without understanding it or punk that influenced the birth of goth, so i think when talking on such subjects u shouldnt leave out the most vital parts
great video! totally get what you mean about flamboyant gamines. i have a bit of edginess in my style, but it usually just looks pretty harmonious on me, so if i want to amp it up, i do it through bolder moves like a black lip!
Your videos are jumping in quality! Keep it up! Also, I was wondering if you knew much about how to identify personal color palettes (i.e. Seasonal colors)?
Great video!! I wish you would have mentioned more of the inspo of this trend like Joan jett my muse❤ and betsey Johnson also did this trend of the duality meeting soft femme with skulls + metal. It was such a fun era with her fashion and reminds me of a lot of what you’re speaking on because it’s complimentary even if it’s sharp or contrasted but there is a fine detail to every body type for sure! I love all the examples and comparisons. Well done and Eva green is stunning.. watching her in penny dreadful or womb or even dark shadows because rarely felt like a character and more elegant on her even Jolie didn’t feel as edgy which I would have loved to see as an example too. I really love it tho, it definitely confirms my search for what my type actually is😅
Flamboyant Gamine: - make sure you dont look like you’re just wearing a costume - julia garner - tight curls make face look sharper - contradicting your lines makes you look harsher - the dress is very long, contradicts short vertical line - shimmer contradicts sharpness - short on long, sharp on soft Thank you so much! You are so helpful and talented.
I see a set of "rules" or ideas how to look edgy but I don't see it to be connected to body types and also some of looks hint that we don't know much about how body types work. Madonna and Drew Barrymore just look cool without any "contradictions" to their appearance. Julia Garner looks elegant and I don't see any not-from-her-body-type vibes in her looks. Btw I see a lot of sharpness in her face with darker hair maybe even more than with blonde. Anyway I learned that gothic, punky styles still look edgy and 1-2 elements per look rule not to shock people around too much. I liked your photos when you experimented with punk style, the hair look adorable! 😍
Soft dramatic here and ive always been edgy/gothic. But I'm very drawn to an elegant type of gothic look, which makes sense tbh! So what i do is apply the soft dramatic advice to darker coloured clothing. And scour alternative clothing sites for clothes in a flattering shape :)
I dont do the best job at dressing for my romantic body type but I always get positive comments on my style, people saying it "stands out" I'm now realising I dress edgy for my body type which while my clothes on their own, or on someone else definitely wouldn't be seen as edgy, on my frame they do - very, very useful video, thanks!!
I still have one last question. At the beginning of the video you say that for most people the color black will make you look more edgie. The thing is that I'm just very pale skinned and dark haired, or as you call it I'm winter like. What can I do if black doesn't work for me and only makes me look more elegant? Btw, great video. I loved it! ♡
Wow! Great video. This was so reassuring. I've recently just learned about Kibbe styling. I'm a dramatic but I wasn't really connecting with my options (although I do love to rock a tailored suit). I felt a bit worried that I had been getting it all wrong (although I thought I looked good and felt like myself). My choices are more romantic (shorter skirts, poofy sleeves, sheer fabrics, DMs). But now I'm so pleased I've been accidentally getting it right this whole time!!!
I'd say if you want Inso for edgy fashion as a SD, look no further than Elizabeth Gillies!!! (specifically as Jade in Victorious or Gigi in $3x & 4rug$ & Rock & Roll). And I know Christina Hendricks was mentioned (the sole SD mentioned), but there is also pictures of her when she was young in the 90s (she was a goth!) and it actually really worked for her (short hair with bangs, long chunky jewelry, baggy leather jackets borrowing from natural lines) And I think Tyra Banks wore some edgy outfits on the runway that could definitely be inspo too! And also, I'm one of those people who thinks she's a SD rather than an R, but Rihanna is another poster child for edgy SDs too!
Oh my god!!!! Thank you for this video!!! I’m a romantic and I look very sweet, for the lack of better word, and I really want to dress more like myself, and feel more rebellious
Thankyou for the info, love your videos! I believe I’m a soft classic and most my life I’ve had more of an edgy style. I feel like you breezed over classics for this and I was looking forward to hearing more. If you have time I’d love to see more info on edgy soft classic/classics
Ever since watching this, I've been so much more attuned to TV and movie costuming that deliberately works against an actor's body type for effect! My favorite really extreme example right now might be Courtney Eaton as Lottie in *Yellowjackets* -- I'm pretty sure she's a very ethereal dramatic, and especially in early episodes the wardrobe department does the most incredible job of putting her in these short, boxy ingenue/gamine pieces that make her look so uncomfortably long and spidery it's like she's actively outgrowing her skin. (That fluffy pink sweater with the little skirt she's wearing to that kegger in the pilot! Absolutely 100% wildly outside her color palette, too.)
Your videos are literally the best thing I've found on RU-vid in a long while, thanks a lot! Could you please give some recommendations on how to look more feminine as a dramatic? (Both in terms of face and body). Or dramatics can't be as feminine as, let's say, romantics, by default? Would be infinitely grateful to hear some insights from you! P.s. I look very similar to Amelie Lens, I assume it's a dramatic essence
I’ve always heard to not fight the dramatic lines- as dressing in a more “traditionally feminine” aka romantic way only highlights the sharpness in your bones by contrast- and probably won’t give the feminine effect you are looking for. By following your dramatic lines and using your color system, you’ll look more harmonious, timeless and feminine.
@@sigridj9459 that's a good advice, feminine silhouettes look nice on my body, even though I'm tall and slim, but I've always felt like they don't match with my face, if that makes any sense:D while in straight high waist pants and a blazer i look somehow more gentle and elegant. Anyway I was wondering if there's any way to make myself look "softer" with makeup and clothes, but maybe that's just not an option for dramatics😥
TR can look edgy wearing black and red or animal prints in white, black and grey with red . Red is very romantic and TR. Black is edgy for romantic and TR.
I love heavy war boots and flat caps, and I was sure they make me look edgy. But one day someone told me I just look cute lol. Like an orphan. But when I wear like a gown, then I look intimidating, in a "just killed my millionaire husband" sort of way. Still not sure what type I am though
(haven't started the video yet) i'm flamboyant natural (non binary) and my baseline turns around grunge aesthetics. Post punk styles have always been what i'm drawn to, but whenever i try anythings i either look like an uptight teacher or 70s rockstar (i've also grown up listening to indie rock and indie pop, and I'm fascinated by folk dressed so i try to incorporate European folk elements into the way i dress and i always end up looking like a cowboy :n) Edit : I've been needing a choker since forever I just love how they look on me
Honestly I'm kind of disappointed to see the restrictive corset narrative portrayed in the video. I wear Victorian corsets almost on the daily and never really find them uncomfortable, even when tightlacing. Other than that though, it was great and very helpful!
I am very frustrated with my Kibbe body type because I thought I was a soft natural or a softer dramatic but I went to Reddit and some people told me that I look soft natural some said soft dramatic, dramatic some said flamboyant natural I’ve been typed soft gamine also been told romantic or theatrical romantic so it’s very very confusing for me. I’m leaning more to Yang frame types, but my whole combination my height and all that really throws me off. So I’m honestly very frustrated.
Personally, when I stopped factoring in my actual height, or telling others what my height was, I found I was more consistently typed as a soft natural... I also feel like the Soft Natural body type has the most variety in it? Like, you can get several soft naturals to stand next to one another and no two 'look' the same... not sure if that makes sense, but I hope that helps!
Can our essence change? I am curious to know whether the filler and cosmetic surgery industry being so readily available would have an impact on our own unique essence. Thanks.
Lol I think it’s hilarious how shows/movies dress female characters in clothing that would get them in trouble if they actually were in high school. My school would’ve dress coded me SO FAST Ridiculous Love your video!!!
Please, don't be too hard on yourself and your past fashions✌️ They are normal steps and mistakes that happen before a real changement and who you are now is thanks these phases too. You were pretty before and you are pretty now too✌️ It's a great and interesting video✌️
It was very interesting, however, it left me wondering - how does a person's weight affect it? I feel like gaining weight has made me look more soft and rounded. Is it a general trend of shifting looks more towards romantic with larger weight? Or is it just accentuating my body-type and making it more pronounced? It would have been nice to see some examples of more full-bodied women.
As a flamboyant gamine I'd say it's harder to look edgy (in the sense shown in this video) because FG natualy have the edginess already. FG can throw on a bunch of stuff edgy for other body types, and they just fit. Zooey Deschanel is just the sweetest ever so maybe not the best example here. It's more visible for Kelly Osbourne or Nicole Ritchie.
don’t know whether i’m a soft natural or soft romantic. i’m constantly compared to marilyn’s body type but i definitely am not the most feminine looking
I love the details and in depth you go into the types! Only thing I would suggest is to include more diversity for examples. 90% of your celebrity examples were all white women… For a range of inclusivity and more relatable content, I would highly recommend exploring more POC of different shapes/sizes.
3:37 girl u skipped the 80s.... There was a lot of batshit alt fashion going on there, goth had just been reborn as we know it in the late 70s so trad goth was going on, not to mention new romantic styles and just the overall dated kitsch of 80s aesthetics
Fyi corsets werent really restrictive, nor were they a fundementally "female" wardrobe. Corsets, stays, and brahs are there to give the garment structure, because baggy clothing is really practical when you mass produce it.
Please please please, we need more info and examples on how to do classic/edgy/Rock chic! Is so difficult! I love rock band tshirts but I don't look as cool with them and I detest having too mhh close to my figure clothes because I have chubs (but I don't look good in oversized)... Don't like that whole elegant thing of the classics, I feel so uncomfortable and not me u.u I love Kate Moss's style and Drew Barrymore when they where edgie u.u I wish I could look like that
