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Loop Earplugs Review - Expert Lab Testing and Live Audio Samples 

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I recently acquired a pair of Loop Experience Plus Earplugs and measured their performance in the HearingTracker Lab. In this video review, I'll provide my overall impressions and share some audio samples to show you just how effective the Loop Earplugs really are. So, put on your favorite headphones, and get ready to experience Loop for yourself.
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@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Hey everyone, we are going to start reviewing earplugs again! If you have a spare moment, please take this 2 question survey about earplugs. It'll help us decide what tests to do and how best to convey the data. steve.questionpro.com/t/AawyEZ2oF9 - Steve
@TingleTom
@TingleTom 10 дней назад
Thank you for your work. I hope you can test the newly released Loop Experience 2 as well.
@greenlittlecreature847
@greenlittlecreature847 2 года назад
THANK YOU!!! I was looking for a video that would do an actual presentation of the product with one of those mics
@steventaddei2655
@steventaddei2655 2 года назад
Happy to provide the content Green Little Creature. I have a long list of devices to test so there will be many more videos like this to come. If you have recommendations please let me know!
@antoniobranderas
@antoniobranderas 11 месяцев назад
THANK YOU! Finally a review that demonstrates the actual capabilities of this earplug. One reviewer kept repeating how many decibels were reduced and even talked about the stupid package as if I’m going to shove that in my ear.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching. I agree that too many videos discuss what you can read on the companies website or box. Glad you found ours different as that's what we're going for! - Steve
@HeyJade_
@HeyJade_ 5 месяцев назад
@@HearingTrackerdo you have a video show casing the loop experience earplugs with loud music playing and trying to have a conversation with a friend? I would like to see how it works if you want to go somewhere with a friend but the music is too loud for me to hear them.
@viktorfromsales
@viktorfromsales Год назад
Short, to the point, and an objective take you can trust unlike reviewers who simply hype up the product and leave an affiliate link for their benefit.
@eclipse_eternal8178
@eclipse_eternal8178 7 месяцев назад
It would be cool if you tried this out with the engage and quiet versions :)
@ThrasherMurat
@ThrasherMurat 7 месяцев назад
They should honestly have this video linked on their site, such a useful review. Thank you!
@No_Mikey_No
@No_Mikey_No Год назад
Thank you very much, the best review I have seen of this product. After seeing the actual example of use, I will buy them.
@winstonef
@winstonef 10 месяцев назад
The levels matched section was so informative! What a wonderful way to demostrate them
@ananikodetha.pezoagorigoit3133
@ananikodetha.pezoagorigoit3133 4 месяца назад
Hi! could you please explain to me what he means by levels matched? :(
@Nicole3900
@Nicole3900 4 месяца назад
I also didn't know what that meant but another comment explained: "it means he boosted the volume of the dampened one so you can compare the sound quality between no earplugs and with earplugs." @@ananikodetha.pezoagorigoit3133
@strong1134
@strong1134 2 месяца назад
@@ananikodetha.pezoagorigoit3133 As far as i understand: level matched means - the received volume in the whatever that skull is (is matched in both cases). Say the volume of the speaker/output device was increased when earplug was used to match the level of when ear plug was not used.
@salutcestleo6990
@salutcestleo6990 Месяц назад
@@ananikodetha.pezoagorigoit3133 This means that he doesn't lower the sound power to show us that the sound quality is not degraded by wearing the loops, so that our judgment is not impaired.
@dreamowner
@dreamowner Год назад
You’re a legend. Very well done, thank you for using an ear shaped mic.
@pjmacinnes831
@pjmacinnes831 9 месяцев назад
Thank you SO MUCH for these videos! I'm on the hunt for some good concert earplugs and these are the top contender thus far.
@ginajerezano4857
@ginajerezano4857 11 дней назад
Can I ask if you got them and if you did what are your thoughts after using them at a concert? I’m thinking of getting them too
@user-mc8oq2vq2i
@user-mc8oq2vq2i 4 месяца назад
I have been looking for a video like this for ages!!! thank you! I wish I could find one based on the engage earbuds!!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Glad I could help and thanks for watching! - Steve
@Quantumface
@Quantumface 2 года назад
Nice review, would have been nice to hear it compared to those regular little free foam ones.
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Thanks! That’s a great idea, I hope to make one like that soon.
@WolfmanAndy
@WolfmanAndy 2 года назад
Thanks, this was by far the best test of earplugs I have seen. Would it be possible to do some similar comparisons between the other earplugs on the market, e.g. eargasm, etymotic, alpine etc,,,thanks
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Thanks Andy Marshall! Absolutely, I am in the process of doing more of these videos. I have already reviewed Minuendo Lossless Earplugs, we will be releasing a video/article shortly on EarPeace Music x/Music Pro, and am currently working on my review for Eargasm High Fidelity and Slide plugs. Plenty more will come after that. I'm open to any recommendations as well!
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Here is my review of the Eargasm Hi-fidelity and Slide Earplugs. More of the others to come soon. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CxkEjr04ijE.html
@rachelharrel
@rachelharrel Год назад
This is such a helpful video! Thank you!
@johnnyluu4060
@johnnyluu4060 2 года назад
The matched levels example is crazy. Would you be able to do a quick video matching levels using a few different concert/event earplugs to compare clarity?
@steventaddei2655
@steventaddei2655 2 года назад
Thanks for watching johnnyluu! Yes, I am in the process of doing this with more hearing protection devices... a nice way to A/B all the options out there across various styles. Do you have recommendations for other devices you'd like to hear?
@braxoff5th
@braxoff5th Год назад
@@steventaddei2655 would love to see a video about Vibes earplugs. Headed to three shows in three days next month and want to be prepped and ready. So far it's between the Eargasms and Loops. What would you recommend?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
@@braxoff5th I am currently working on an overall review comparing all of these devices (Vibes included). Slight spoiler, but I think the Eargasms sound a little better but Loop are more comfortable and offer the added "Mute" protection. In a pinch, I prefer the Loop due to the retention and comfort. Is it possible to get both and see which fit you better (then return the other)? Enjoy the shows!
@lucacycles8623
@lucacycles8623 Год назад
@@steventaddei2655 There's a lot of plugs that look like the Eargasms (senner music pro to name one) I'd be interested if there's any difference?
@ubusound
@ubusound Год назад
@@steventaddei2655 I’ve been using the Etymotic ER-20s and got our son some Hearos. They seem to block more HF than these or the Eargasm. Going to check out your website to see if you’ve tested those as well
@MarcinMadix
@MarcinMadix 8 месяцев назад
Excellent Review. Thank you!
@LoftyAssertions
@LoftyAssertions 6 месяцев назад
It almost makes me emotional to see people finally wanting to protect their ears, probably also finding out that the music sounds better with protection too
@leoeole6194
@leoeole6194 2 года назад
Best earplugs review I've ever seen !
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Thank you Leo!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Thanks for the kind words Leo! Glad you found it helpful.
@Anjalena
@Anjalena 2 года назад
I don't notice any difference when you add the mutes (both leveled and unleveled). I even turned my sound all the way up to see if I'd hear it (ouch!). I am autistic with sound sensitivity and misophonia. Did anyone else not notice the difference?
@laflora166
@laflora166 2 года назад
I didn't! I think I will get the normal experience or quiet, I can't see the difference in the pro
@kendrau206
@kendrau206 2 года назад
@@laflora166 I just bought the pro. With mute in (the brief time I tested mute) I noticed a slight change. I am glad I bought the pro version though for the extra variety of ear tips you get.
@cloudyair7395
@cloudyair7395 2 года назад
@@kendrau206 with your experience with the loop experience pros, would you say the first time he sampled and there was quite a significance in noise reduction, would you say your experience to them are exactly like that? Cause I'm planning to purchase them for concert usages, could you also provide your opinion if you think they would be suitable for that?
@Anjalena
@Anjalena 2 года назад
@@cloudyair7395 I did finally buy the Experience Pros a few months ago. I'll give you a review if you like? The diff with the mutes in, for me, is barely noticeable. However, I got the Pro for all the extra tips because my inner ears are apparently very strangely shaped and earbuds are always falling out every few minutes. At least the Loops kinda lock in place if you twist them back far enough. But I bought a cheap set of blue silicone earplugs with the 3 different size tips all on the same plug (if that makes sense). It's better protection plus I can wear them for imagining tests like MRIs. Can't do that with the Experience and Experience Pro because of the metallic coating. All in all, I really wish I'd just bought the blue silicone earplugs. The Quiet might be nice but the blue silicone generic ones probably block more sound for cheaper. But the rigid plastic of the Experience (and the Pro) means if you have a funky shaped ear, they might not fit you properly and might even cause discomfort like it does for me. Not due to the ear tips but because the little piece of cartilage in my outer ear that the Loops lock into is probably shaped slightly diff than the norm and I also have fibromyalgia so it just really starts to hurt after awhile. That was a lot of money I spent and now I rarely use them. 😢 Also, they don't really tell you how muffled the sound is without the mutes. I had a different idea of what the Loops we're going to do for me. So just to make sure anyone knows who's considering buying them, they're really like ear plugs that aren't completely sealed. It will not, even with the mutes in, block as much sound as regular max db reduction earplugs and they do not magically let clear vocal sounds through while muffling everything else. I'd think of them as earplugs lite. If this is what you want and you have more standard shaped ears (other earbuds and earplugs never give you problems in the way they fit) AND you have the money to spend, I highly recommend the product. It seems to be well made. I haven't yet had to deal with the company though so I can't give a review on that part. **FULL DISCLOSURE** I'm autistic so I have many issues with sound, texture and touch. I'm very picky on topics surrounding these things. This means my experience is going to go through that filter and your experience may vary drastically.
@cloudyair7395
@cloudyair7395 2 года назад
@@Anjalena thank you for this; I highly appreciate it. Would you be able to tell me overall if you think is would be suitable for concerts or clubbing?
@curioustin1562
@curioustin1562 5 месяцев назад
Very helpful. Thanks a lot! 🥰 This is the most honest review I have seen and listened to the past 1,5 hours.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
You are very welcome and thanks for the kind words! - Steve
@lucacycles8623
@lucacycles8623 Год назад
Hey Steve, thanks so much for these reviews, I was about to drop some money on the Earasers after buying int the hype, and tbh thought the Loops looked gimmicky - but wow what clarity, really impressive. I was using Senner Music Pros (look very similar to Eargasms) but often took them out as the sound was too muffled for me, anyway just bought some Loops and thinking these will be the ticket for me. Thanks!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Thanks for the comment and for watching Luca. Glad the Loops have been working for you. I haven't heard of the Senner Pros, I'll check them out - thanks! - Steve
@adamklar7935
@adamklar7935 11 месяцев назад
Commented 9 months ago, so how did you like the loops?
@lucacycles8623
@lucacycles8623 11 месяцев назад
@@adamklar7935 ​ @adamklar7935 They're decent, definitely the best ear plugs I've tried. I find they're all I need for super loud electronic events (talking silly loud, like you feel concerned for people who haven't got ear plugs in). They take the edge off at these events and I can hear everything good. Just back from a mixed music festival today (Blue Dot), where 90% of the time the sound was all good, loud but not loud enough for ear plugs all the time (IMO - however some of my pals were using ear plugs most of the time). But every now and then the sound wasn't perfect and some instruments were sounding harsh (often snares), at these times I'd put in the loops, but found myself taking them out as I was just losing too much other detail. For example, there's a band called Nihiloxica, the synth parts were notably quieter than the drums with the loops in, and when the loops were out it all just sounded 'better'... to me anyway. Maybe It's probably worth mentioning I don't think most people are as critical as me with sound. Also I wonder if I could've just had a fiddle with the ear plugs, maybe they weren't in quite perfect? I started working in a workshop this year, using power tools and such, I also use them at work and find they're good for taking the edge of the harsh work noises, while still being able to talk to colleagues. So they're the best ear plugs I've tried so far, but not perfect for me. I'm thinking I'll also give the Etymotic Research ER20XS a go, which Steve says are slightly higher for sound quality than loops (although less good for protection). I think if I find myself taking the ER20s out when I probably should be leaving them in, then I'll probably just commit to some custom plugs at that point.
@mateus_ledur
@mateus_ledur 10 месяцев назад
awesome content! congrtulations and thank you!
@Barberwoad
@Barberwoad Год назад
Awesome review thanks!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@Choice49Johnson
@Choice49Johnson Год назад
Thank you so much for this video! It helped me pick out which Loop Earplugs to buy!! The sound samples really helped! 🎉🎉🎉
@RhythmAddictedState
@RhythmAddictedState 11 месяцев назад
Which Loops did you end up picking out, and for which use? I'd like to go to concerts with these, but I can't decide whether I should get the Loops with the mute filters or not.
@Choice49Johnson
@Choice49Johnson 11 месяцев назад
@@RhythmAddictedState I chose Experience Pro~
@RhythmAddictedState
@RhythmAddictedState 11 месяцев назад
@@Choice49Johnson Thanks
@JimCross1981
@JimCross1981 Год назад
Thanks for this review - the sound samples at so helpful! Would these be your top recommendation for a guitarist? I currently use Minnuendo Lossless but find I lose too much of the higher frequencies, and ultimately lose the guitar in what becomes a muddy mix. These seem to retain more top end, but I wonder whether the high level of attenuation around 3k would again cause a guitar to get lost in the mix?
@devincagadoc6619
@devincagadoc6619 7 месяцев назад
Would you please review the Loop Switch model? I was at first convinced to get the minuendo lossless ear plugs but the loops look a little less conspicuous in ear…but i’m wondering how the performance is between those. And also would love to see how the Loop Switch settings compare to their solo counterparts!
@davidherringgo
@davidherringgo 2 года назад
Thank you for your video very interesting I just bought a pair of experienced pro for motorcycling they're supposed to be very comfortable
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Your welcome! Hope they work out well for you. They should be comfortable under a helmet as they have a low profile.
@atelierb.7195
@atelierb.7195 Год назад
Very useful! Thanks! Are u going to make a similar video for the Loop Engage earplug? 🙏
@santiago.husain
@santiago.husain Год назад
Great video, thanks! Loop has recently launched the "Loop Engage" earplugs, it would be great if you could do a comparison with the Experience and the Quiet!
@Racheessep
@Racheessep Год назад
I own all three of them. The engage is definitely better for conversations, everything sounds more clear. I prefer wearing them now. The others are stil nicer for concerts or at home. The engage is nicer at the office for when peeps ask questions.
@Racheessep
@Racheessep Год назад
@@warrenRV that sounds more like you might need in-ear monitoring for on stage? If you would like to manually manage different instrument levels.
@Racheessep
@Racheessep Год назад
@@warrenRV blimey! I am so sorry hear that. Tinnitus was always one of my worries when I was still performing. I sincerely hope they’ll work for you.
@mollyscloset
@mollyscloset 6 месяцев назад
​@@nunununu70bruh! I have diagnosed autism and tons of sensory issues, including hearing processing dyslexia related. Would love to help you with your app or give feedback and experience.
@Kirbyfutbol10
@Kirbyfutbol10 9 месяцев назад
I would love to hear an explanation of quantifying it in decibels noise reduction. But the confusing part is for me when reading the labels, SNR versus NRR versus what the label says in decibel noise reduction. They throw out different numbers. What’s your thoughts and recommendations which one to trust? And NRR is always rated so much lower
@miladan8126
@miladan8126 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much i was about confused which one to order and it’s verrry expensive to ship to Egypt Thank you 🙏🏻
@Rodrigo.Osorio
@Rodrigo.Osorio 2 года назад
Thank you for this video!, Can you make a comparison between the loop earplugs and regular earplugs like this video? It would be amazing
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
That's a great idea Rodrigo. I have a long list of products to cover, once I'm finished I'll likely make an overall comparison video for them. Here is my most recent video on the Eargasm Hi-Fi and Slide earplugs. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CxkEjr04ijE.html
@jonasneumann5915
@jonasneumann5915 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the review. In the first Test it shows really high difference in the dB. In the second Test it says level matched. Does that mean that you made it be on the same volume so you can hear the quality difference isolated? Or what does level matched mean
@thatonegirlthatcanneversleep
@thatonegirlthatcanneversleep 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate this review so much! Can you do a review of Flare calmer earplugs? I have misophonia, so an audio of something like a busy environment would definitely help me to determine if theyd reduce my trigger sounds or not
@speedyspooley
@speedyspooley Год назад
I have the Experience Pros....and they're a godsend. I've had tinnitus my whole life...and wasn't more careful about protecting my hearing when I was younger. I can't stand to see live music without hearing protection. I used to use the cheap foam plugs...which was better than nothing but really muffled the music. The Loop plugs lower the decibels but still let you hear the music much better than cheap foam plugs.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Hi Speedyspooley, thanks for sharing and glad to hear they have helped you. I abused my hearing in younger days as well and have some hearing injury as a result. Foam plugs always muffled instruments too much so I stopped wearing them. Happy to see all these newer earplugs (Loop, Eargasm, ER20, etc) that provide much better sound quality for music. - Steve
@sarajechova3687
@sarajechova3687 7 месяцев назад
Are erperience pros the same as experience plus? i cant find the pros on loop website
@ALGARIC
@ALGARIC Год назад
Thank you!!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
You are welcome Ariana!
@gailwagner8115
@gailwagner8115 5 месяцев назад
I have Loop pros, and quiets.. absolutely love them! What I really like is loud background noise dissipates and you can hear the conversation near you where without them I can't hear anything because it's all just too loud and mumbles together
@DaveMcIroy
@DaveMcIroy 25 дней назад
I lost my Alpine Pro and I think I will get these for concerts.
@audigex
@audigex 9 месяцев назад
A similar video with a comparison of other sounds (eg speech, power tools) would be really interesting
@tomerbenish5139
@tomerbenish5139 11 месяцев назад
That was so helpful! Can you please do the flare cleaner?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker 10 месяцев назад
Thanks and glad you found it helpful. Flare has been on my radar for a while now! - Steve
@urisseegatdula196
@urisseegatdula196 7 месяцев назад
Please please please review the new loop switch earplugs. I want to know if it's worth getting instead of getting each 3 separately
@journeysoutloud1990
@journeysoutloud1990 2 года назад
I just bought a pair and just tried them on. Had to twist slightly to get them in but Omg they're so comfortable.
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Happy to hear they fit well! I agree regarding the slight twist and this is one of my favorite parts of their style. The loop sits tucked within your concha improving retention.
@rohan83784
@rohan83784 Год назад
I live in a rented house and I am a student, the tenants play music very loud, they do not understand even after explaining, so will this thing be beneficial for me.
@WanderwithJon
@WanderwithJon Год назад
thank you for this! trying the product without actually trying the product.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Thanks for Watching Jon
@breannapiscitelli3941
@breannapiscitelli3941 Год назад
I actually got these to reduce the amount of background noise, and I went from having panic attacks daily to virtually none. I do not have a diagnosis of autism because I was not diagnosed in childhood and I already tried to go through the process and I’m still currently going through the process. I’ll be honest I don’t really care about a diagnosis anymore but I do care about the quality of my life and these headphones are it. I didn’t even realize I was overstimulated and that’s why I was having anxiety and meltdowns constantly. I always thought my hearing was bad because I don’t really hear people talk over a lot of that noise but when I got these headphones, I realized that it was my hearing, and I was not crazy. My fiancé try them on, and he says that he can’t stand them because he can actually hear himself think. I just started laughing because it was one of the first time. I was actually able to hear my own thoughts without something interrupting them. I have ADHD diagnosed, but I’ve already been on medication and treatment for that for a while, and my medication does not affect any of my senses everything still incredibly strong. I have the headphones that reduce background noise, but you do have an option to put it down another 5 dB if you choose . I almost never do that just because I do like to be able to hear conversations in. I have a daughter and I just want to be able to hear her and not all the annoying noises around. It also helps me with enjoying TV again because I wouldn’t watch it without the headphones. I can’t understand what people are saying and I have dyslexia, so sometimes the subtitles make things harder. I’m actually really good with voice recognization I realized too but I didn’t know it until I got these headphones because I couldn’t hear peoples voices until I got these headphones and I’m 29 . I do have some hearing loss now like I had to ask if it would affect tinnitus, but lupus said that it actually should help prevent further damage. And while wearing them, I do not get tinnitus, which I’ll be honest, I was worried about because a lot of times I get it when it’s completely silent. Also, I can read with dyslexia I’m actually not a bad reader. I just have to sometimes go back and reread what I read already to make sure that I read it correctly. Writing in spelling though is a different story so I apologize if my grammar or spelling was bad .
@lucyking2752
@lucyking2752 Год назад
I’ve given up trying to get a diagnosis, I 100% know I have it and got a diagnosis for OCD (Anxiety and depression decades ago) OCD is a symptom of ADHD and I’m also always late (apparently time blindness is a thing) hoping NHS councillor will pick up on it… my brother’s diagnosed ADHD and my Dad is ODHD (undiagnosed but is definitely on the spectrum) and my Mum says I have all his traits. So I’m just finding ways to cope with daily life, like you said. Unsuccessfully so far but I know I’ll be able to teach myself strategies. I’m not a huge fan of social media but found so many helpful ‘ADHD hacks’ on TikTok (I thought it was just kids doing dance routines but I really recommend it..! All the best 😊
@jacobpaint
@jacobpaint 22 дня назад
Interesting test and comparison, it would be interesting to hear the difference between loop and other earplugs from disposable ones to Flare Calmer 2 which isn’t meant to block the sound but only the higher frequencies. I’ll have to check your other videos to see if you have tested any others… and hopefully you found better ways to shoot your videos. You tilt your head back a lot so the camera is seeing straight up your nose. If I was shooting your videos I’d be trying to find more flattering angles.
@ryanestrada3253
@ryanestrada3253 Год назад
Thanks you. God bless.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
You are welcome Ryan! - Steve
@danielcacak3963
@danielcacak3963 2 года назад
Thank you for this Video! Its very helpful to hear the examples with and without the matched levels! There is a specific Noisefloor especially in the higher hiss frequency range. That Noise comes from the preamp, right? It makes the hearing of differences in the upper frequency range difficult. But still a highly useful Video! Thank You!
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 Год назад
Hi Daniel, nice set of ears to pickup on that. Yes, the noise floor becomes audible during the level match. I'm not sure where it's generated within the EARS signal chain but we have upgraded to a better researched based manikin (KEMAR) so the quality of our audio samples should get much better. Thanks for watching.
@Juanah92
@Juanah92 5 месяцев назад
Would you recommend for marching band rehearsals? We play quite loud and I wonder if these cancel enough noise.
@GreatBeardofWisdom
@GreatBeardofWisdom Год назад
This was a really informative and simple review. My partner ordered some based on this so hopefully she gets on with them. Also, I'm kinda addicted to the song used for testing in this video; anyone happen to know what it is and how I can get it?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Happy to hear that Josh and hope your parter likes them! The songs can all be found on Pixabay - here are the music credits: Music by ComaStudio and Coma-Media from Pixabay.
@EnixTurnix
@EnixTurnix 2 года назад
out of the hifi earplugs you've tried what do you recommend most for concerts to get the full sound without hearing damage
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 Год назад
Brin, my personal preferences have been either the Loop Experience Pro or Eargasm hi-fi plugs. Loop fits my ears better while Eargasm attenuates sound more evenly across all frequencies. With that said, you can purchase a few devices to see which works best for your ears. You can also visit an audiologist to get your hearing assessed and have testing completed with the earplugs to see which offers the best protection for you. This is known as a Personal Attenuation Rating (PAR) and is far more useful than any manufacturer listed noise reduction rating (NRR). Hope that helps!
@drnrqsldch
@drnrqsldch 2 года назад
Quite impressive, how flat do they sound compared to minuendo, which have an awful EQ coloring. Is it possible to test Flare Audio Isolate? Great test! finally someone does a useful test to compare ear protection when you care about the sound you're getting!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker 2 года назад
Hey Drnrqsldch, its great to hear a comparable difference. We have ALOT more to review so make sure you subscribe for more
@steventaddei2655
@steventaddei2655 2 года назад
Thanks for the feedback Drnrqsldch, glad you're enjoying the sound samples! For several reasons I find myself using the Loop Pro more than the minuendo. In the no-mute (Loop) and open (minuendo) position I think they sound similar, though the Loop sounds flatter. This is supported by the measurements I've taken. I will add Flare Audio Isolate to the list of devices to test!
@Tospec03
@Tospec03 2 года назад
Would you recommend the experience or experience pro for a once to twice a month Techno club visitor ? I’m normally not that sensitive to sound but don’t really like that ringing sound/feeling afterwards.
@Tospec03
@Tospec03 2 года назад
@@steventaddei2655 thx, will try that one out
@RhythmAddictedState
@RhythmAddictedState 11 месяцев назад
@@Tospec03 What did they reply? Their comment has been deleted :(
@gratituderanch9406
@gratituderanch9406 4 месяца назад
I have really good hearing, and am presently trying the loop switch- I wanted mainly engage and quiet. And oddly there’s barely any difference between the settings. I got mine because as I age- I struggle with noise anxiety. And trouble hearing conversations in crowded environments
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thanks you for your feedback. We are testing earplugs currently and will take a look at Loop Switch! - Steve
@obedgamerpro1238
@obedgamerpro1238 Год назад
Which earplug would you recommend for a guitar player?
@VesperAJ
@VesperAJ Год назад
Thank you for this. I have severe misophonia & I'm looking for something to help. My biggest trigger is loud sounds that are MUFFLED & that's exactly the effect these have lol! Can't buy but glad they are helping others :)
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
I'm sorry to hear that Vesper. I wonder if active/electronic hearing protection would be a better option for you? Etymotic research has some (e.g. MusicPro) that will do better at turning loud sounds down rather than muffling them. Have you looked into devices like these before? Anyway, sorry to hear this.
@womangoworld
@womangoworld 4 месяца назад
Would have loved this as a comparison between the engage and the experience one while someone is talking for example.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Great feedback, thanks! We are testing earplugs currently and will keep this in mind. - Steve
@solacelising2568
@solacelising2568 9 месяцев назад
Hi how about the sound of the alarm clock? Im thinking of buying one but not sure if I need to buy the Quiet or Experience one? Im afraid I wont hear my alarm clock😅 thanks ☺️
@sarahremnant1529
@sarahremnant1529 2 года назад
Hi which Loop earplugs would you recommend to block out neighbours animal motion detectors. These give of a very high pitch niose when activated. As a result my tinnitus is then 10 times + worse. Thank You
@steventaddei2655
@steventaddei2655 2 года назад
Hi Sarah, is this a problem indoors or only when you are outside? Regardless, I'd speak to your neighbors and see if they can direct the speakers away from your property. Perhaps they can position the detectors on the properly line facing their house. High frequencies are generally very directional (like a flashlight) so a slight position change may solve your problem. You shouldn't have to deal with the annoyance especially if it is triggering your tinnitus. In the meantime, you can try thick window curtains to help dampen noise entering through your windows. They design curtains specifically for this purpose. If you'd like to try earplugs, all of them will help dampen high frequencies. The Experience Pro will provide the most natural reduction of sound while the Quiet will dampen as much as possible. Hope this helps Sarah!
@the_good_pianist
@the_good_pianist Год назад
Hi, I am a solo pianist in the huge lobby of a hotel. It gets very, very noisy during the busy afternoon tea sessions (customers talking loudly, staff throwing cutlery and plates like there's no tomorrow) My question is: for this situation, which Loop earbuds should I get? I only need to hear myself playing the piano (no singing or talking with customers as I'm quite a distance from them) Thank you!
@davidmaximous2156
@davidmaximous2156 Месяц назад
Hey I’ve not bought these yet but between shooting, motorcycles skydiving, raving & needing to concentrate at work I’ve tried a few ear plugs/hearing protective devices. They have a quiz on their website you can do but based on their product descriptions I think probably the “engage” line is best for what you need. Just be weary for these in-between requirements from my experience they can be either too quiet or too loud, they have a 3 in 1 that covers all 3 of their noise cancellation levels, I can let you know which mode is the best if I buy it? (just doing some more research just to make sure there’s nothing better out there)
@spinnerboyz
@spinnerboyz 13 дней назад
So they improve the music EQ. Awesome.
@andrew007s
@andrew007s 8 месяцев назад
Great video. Are these the Pro or Plus? The description says Plus, in video it says Pro.
@alessandrogasparini9255
@alessandrogasparini9255 Год назад
Hi can you help me? I work in an open space office (so I have different people closed to me). I’d like to consistently reduce both ambient and voices noises to be more focused when carrying out my tasks. However I wouldn’t like to be completely isolated from everything (for example if a colleague is trying to call me, I’d like to be able to notice it, even if his voice noise is significantly reduced). So on one hand I want all the noises (of the voices as well) to be hugely reduced but on the other hand I would appreciate if I could be a little aware if someone is calling me. Is that possible with the loop experience pro (with the mute filter on) for instance? Or the voices are too much high (even with the mute filter on)? Because if with the loop experience pro the noises of the voices are still too much high, I would be disturbed the same (and in that case I would choose the quiet: I would be very isolated and not able to notice if someone is calling me, it’s true, but at least I would be focused when doing my tasks that it’s the priority for me). I hope you understood the situation. Thank you very much in advance for the answer!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
I am the same way when working Alessandro. Hearing protection such as Loop or 3M earmuffs have worked before. However, you can also use devices such Apple AirPods Pro to reduce overall environmental sounds with their Transparency Mode. Furthermore, you can play soothing music or white noise via bluetooth to help mask/cover distracting environmental sounds. Seems like this would be the best of both worlds as you can better control the amount of ambience, noise cancellation, and streamed masker signal. Let me know if you try it!
@djmisskroft8313
@djmisskroft8313 2 года назад
thank u
@steventaddei2655
@steventaddei2655 2 года назад
Happy to provide the review Dj!
@wboeren1
@wboeren1 Год назад
Bought the loop quit, they fit well and are comfortable for sleeping on your side with the head on your pillow.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Thank you for sharing Wajang! I know from personal experience that most earplugs are extremely uncomfortable to sleep in. - Steve
@wboeren1
@wboeren1 Год назад
@@HearingTracker and they don't get stuck in your ears like the soft ones. Had to ask for help to get those out again. I like the Loop earplugs.
@renk1473
@renk1473 Год назад
​@@wboeren1 hey can you let me know how long would a pair of em quiet plugs last before i ll have to buy another one, and do u change the tips or nah
@giraffe912
@giraffe912 8 месяцев назад
Tbh i didnt really notice the difference with the mute added. Still not sure if I want to get these tbh because they are expensive and I feel like I’d just lose them because theyre so small.
@starfallstreams
@starfallstreams 5 месяцев назад
do you have any comparisons of the engage and quiet by any chance? :0 this is super useful
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thank you! I have only tested the Loop Experience Plus so far. However, we are testing earplugs again currently and should have information out shortly. In fact, if you'd like to help us you can answer this quick 2 question survey. It will help us understand how you use earplugs and inform our testing and content. Thank you! steve.questionpro.com/t/AawyEZ2oF9 - Steve
@waynemartin2207
@waynemartin2207 4 месяца назад
Hi, Thank you for this video. Do you have any videos or advice for using hearing loops in a factory background. Although hearing loops reduce the noise level wouldn't it also make it harder to be aware of safety noise's, like forklift horns or someone shouting "stop", for example. I only ask because a collage of mine has be diagnosed with Misophonia, he wants to carry on working in the Warehouse, so we are trying to find solutions.
@JonathanPerez-dj1gc
@JonathanPerez-dj1gc 3 месяца назад
He could try the engage, dims all unnecessary backgrounds but can heat voices sirens all that.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment. It really depends on his exposures in the warehouse. These should offer sufficient sound protection though while preserving clarity of speech and alarms. - Steve
@jojo16maric
@jojo16maric Год назад
In their site there is only experience and experience plus not pro. I am a bit confused 😅
@EL_Aura
@EL_Aura Год назад
Can you do this same test with some Electronic Dance Music please?!
@justanotherguyful
@justanotherguyful Год назад
What does "now level matched" mean?
@abelgama4630
@abelgama4630 Месяц назад
First of all thank you for the great review, I have recently started trying the loop experience plus. I read the full review on hearing tracker and i was a little worried about the discovery that sound is actually amplified if the fit is not tight. In a night club or a concert an amplification of 12 Db is basically a death sentence, so i am worried that if the fit slips it will become very dangerous ? Another thing i noticed is that although sound is attenuated and i can actually be comfortable in the club, i do start hearing the music base more than seemingly other frequencies, i don't think its louder than it would be on open ear but it does seem louder than the other attenuated frequencies am i using them wrong?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment. Earplugs are going to fit everyone differently. Maybe it is worth trying a different size or style ear tip to get a better seal? The slightest slit will let in all the bass and make for a very uneven sound quality. By the way, we are testing earplugs again and, if you have a moment, here is a quick 2 question survey that'll help us understand what's most important to you when testing and sharing data. I'd appreciate your thoughts. steve.questionpro.com/t/AawyEZ2oF9 - Steve
@mrcoatsworth429
@mrcoatsworth429 Год назад
I wish you would have included generic foam plugs in the comparison.
@BrytniLove
@BrytniLove 2 года назад
I just don’t fully understand the whole “matched” version. I’m feeling really dense because I’m not sure exactly what all those examples were
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Hi Brytni, the first series of sound samples allow you to hear what the Loop Pro may sound like in your ears in the real world. The second Level Matched series includes those same recordings without the large volume difference. This “level match” makes it easier to hear how equally the plug attenuates different frequency ranges. For example, all of the level matched recordings will sound very similar if the plugs truly provide hi-fidelity uniform attenuation. If however the level matched recordings sound very different (e.g. muffled) compared to the open ear, the plug is applying greater sound reduction to highs than lows. So it’s another way to hear how the plug may sound without the bias of a large volume change.
@cloudyair7395
@cloudyair7395 2 года назад
@@stevetaddei872 so the first examples is what we hear at concerts right? and could you clarify the second level ones again, i don't quite understand, thanks
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
@@cloudyair7395 ​yes exactly! The "Open Ear" is normal with no earplugs and approximates what you may hear at a concert. For the final "Level Matched" audio samples, I increase the volume of the earplug samples so there are no volume differences. That way you can hear how the earplug effects sound quality without the attenuation. Basically, it makes it easier to hear how natural they sound compared to the original No Earplug sample. A more linear earplug, or one with more uniform attenuation, will sound similar to the No Earplug sound sample. Does that help? I will update my labels and naming conventions to make this clearer in future videos. Thank you!
@cloudyair7395
@cloudyair7395 2 года назад
@@stevetaddei872 I'm still quite new to this and don't understand; so for the "open ear" samples are you saying that as each earplug was put in, you decreased the volume. And for the "level matched" you played them at the same volume? Could you also explain what attenuation is?
@BrytniLove
@BrytniLove 2 года назад
I love how in depth these answers are ! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer the questions we have
@Vi.98
@Vi.98 Год назад
Which one do you recommend for working at a daycare? I still have to hear the babies crying, I just want the sound reduced cause sometimes it’s 5 kids crying at once😫
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker 10 месяцев назад
I can't imagine... Loop experience, eargasm hi-fi, or etymotic er-20 are a good place to start. Good luck and let us know how they work. - Steve
@chasehim3761
@chasehim3761 2 года назад
Thanks!! :) I dont get the second portion of the vid. Level matched?
@Krishnafred
@Krishnafred 2 года назад
The attenuation amplified again to hear if there is any sound alteration from the earplugs reduction compared to the original sound.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Thanks for explaining it Krishnafred! Yea, Chase it allows you to hear the earplugs sound quality without the large volume difference. Hope that makes sense now.
@xoorav6112
@xoorav6112 2 года назад
Hy I have tinnitus but I want to go in concerts, clubs,. Cinemas and other noisy places without any fear of ear so can u suggest which loop would be great quite or pro ? Please it will be great help ☺️!
@steventaddei2655
@steventaddei2655 2 года назад
Hi Xoorav, the Experience Pro (reviewed in this video) are designed to provide the most uniform, or flat, sound attenuation. They would be most appropriate for concerts, clubs, and Cinemas where a natural sound quality is desired. I'd recommend you speak with an audiologist in your area, if you haven't already, to look into the potential causes of your tinnitus, rule out hearing loss/other issues, and discuss conservation more. I also recommend you install the NIOSH Sound Level Meter app on your phone so that you can monitor your exposures in these environments. The app has good educational content, but you can reference 80-85 dB LAeq as a sound level that will start fatiguing your hearing system. So if you're exposed to levels like that, wear hearing protection such as the Experience Pro and try limiting the duration of exposure. Get your hearing tested regularly to make sure what you're doing to protect your hearing is working. Best of luck and enjoy the music!
@xoorav6112
@xoorav6112 2 года назад
@@steventaddei2655 Thanks You soo much for advices I will let u know my experience after buying pro thanks 👍
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
@@xoorav6112 please do! I’d love to hear how they worked for you.
@rettenthetetlen8759
@rettenthetetlen8759 Год назад
Work in the environment where the radio is very loud. I cannot use earphones because of health and safety. But the radio is annoy the hell out of me. What sort of earplugs could cut out the radio better?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Rettenthetelten!, have you ever looked into active/electronic hearing protection? These are designed to let softer sounds pass and reduce louder sounds (e.g. annoying intercom/radio). Etymotic research offers several options in this realm such as the MusicPro.
@vendrena
@vendrena 2 месяца назад
You should try this out with the switch ones!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thank you, we are actually testing earplugs again now! Switch is on our list. - Steve
@user-go8mz8qc6y
@user-go8mz8qc6y Год назад
Can you sleep well on your side with these?
@natepeters8508
@natepeters8508 10 месяцев назад
I'm on the verge of buying these but my only hesitation is just how obvious they are in the ear. If they had clear ones of the experience I probably would've already pulled the trigger.
@DrummerJames
@DrummerJames 3 месяца назад
can you do the same but for the Loop Switch and test out the 3 different levels?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment. We are testing earplugs again now. If you'd like to help us, here is a quick 2 question survey that will help us understand how most people use earplugs. We'll use this survey to inform our testing and the data we share. Thank you! steve.questionpro.com/t/AawyEZ2oF9 - Steve
@AGUTE
@AGUTE 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, maybe someone can say more about iner sounds like eating and breathing while wearing loups experience or engage?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker 10 месяцев назад
I find most universal-fit earplugs to suffer regarding occlusion and internal noises due to their shallow ear canal fit. This has been my experience with Loop earplugs. Etymotic Research er20 tend to sit deeper in the ear which helps. Otherwise, custom musician's earplugs are the best option other than powered devices offering active occlusion compensation. - Steve
@jasonlovi8745
@jasonlovi8745 Год назад
Can you do a review on dbuds, eargasm click, and decibullz?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Hi Jason, we do have a review of Eargasm and several other earplugs. We will also be releasing a more comprehensive musicians earplug review within the next month! www.hearingtracker.com/resources/eargasm-earplugs-review-with-audio-samples?q=eargasm
@jasonlovi8745
@jasonlovi8745 Год назад
@@HearingTracker you do not have a review of the Eargasm Click though. You only have reviews for the high fidelity and the slide.
@kereamohau
@kereamohau 2 года назад
I do not hear any difference when the mutes are on. But they are definitely the best sounding when you matched the volumes
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
Kere a few others have noted that too. It is subtle. Maybe it’s time for another video with more samples to highlight the differences.
@kereamohau
@kereamohau 2 года назад
@@stevetaddei872 thanks for the reply. Is there any real difference between the Loop Pros and the regular Loop Experience?
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
@@kereamohau my understanding is that the Experience and Experience Pro are the same ear piece. However, the Pro comes with the Mutes and 3 sets of foam ear tips providing more options for a good fit.
@kereamohau
@kereamohau 2 года назад
@@stevetaddei872 excellent. Thank you for the info
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
@@kereamohau happy to help!
@TheDeanary
@TheDeanary Месяц назад
Hey, nice review. My english isnt very good and i dont really understand the second test (Now Level Matched). Can someone explain please?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Hi, thanks for watching! Level matched lets you hear what the earplugs sound like without the volume difference. It makes it easier for you to hear the sound quality (as there is no large volume difference). - Steve
@aaaabbbbyyyy
@aaaabbbbyyyy Год назад
What’s the point of the experience ones? Like when are you supposed to wear them besides maybe a concert
@martinabenini
@martinabenini Год назад
Are they good even to sleep? :)
@tpwkjagus
@tpwkjagus Год назад
Can someone clarify this to me? Both were the Loop Experience Pro earplugs but the audio was extremely different in the comparsion. I think I don't understand something... And I'm really interested in getting the ones that give the second result. Can someone help me?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Hi Jagoda, the first series of sound samples show how much sound reduction you can expect with Loop Experience earplugs. You hear music without earplugs (open ear) and then progress to Loop with and without the Mute. The second set of sound samples aims to show how the earplugs effect sound quality. So the volume of all sound recordings were set to be equal (level matched). That way, you can hear how uniform the sound reduction is without the large volume difference. Does that help clarify?
@tpwkjagus
@tpwkjagus Год назад
@@HearingTracker I think so! Thank you a lot :)
@jvidia
@jvidia 2 года назад
This are better than the Alpine MusicSafe Pro for live metal concerts? Thanks.
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 Год назад
Jvidia, that's a great question that I'd love to answer. Alpine MusicSafe Pro were actually my earplug of choice for many years as they fit well and offered different filters. Unfortunately, I have yet to put it to a more objective test list this but they are in the queue!
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
jvidia, I have since had the chance to compare Alpine MusicSafe against these. While I like Alpine, earplugs such as Loop Experience, ER20xs, and Eargasm offer much more uniform/natural sound reduction. This coming from a metal head too by the way.
@laflora166
@laflora166 2 года назад
I have a question: would the normal experience sound the same as the pro experience without de mute thing? Or there are more differences? I like how it sounds without the mute, I can't hear a difference, so if the normal sounds the same I prefer them, as they are cheaper
@steventaddei2655
@steventaddei2655 2 года назад
Hi LaFlora166, I have not tried the Loop Experience personally but they will sound different. The Experience Pro includes a dual-filter system to provide a more flat attenuation profile. The standard Experience does not have this. You can also see a different in the manufacturer listed specs for attenuation and noise reduction rating. All of this translates to sound quality differences. The Loop Experience Pro is my go-to hearing protection device now due to the sound quality and comfort (I am not sponsored by them to say that btw). If you plan to use the earplugs around speech or music, opting for the Pro may be worth it. I hope that helps!
@laflora166
@laflora166 2 года назад
@@steventaddei2655 damn I just talked with them on Instagram and they said that the normal experience and the pro are the same without the mute add-on xD
@stevetaddei872
@stevetaddei872 2 года назад
@@laflora166 at one point their website had specified that the Pro had a “dual filter” system and a different NRR (not solely due to the added mute). This is great to know though so thank you much for sharing.
@theivesinjeans
@theivesinjeans 7 месяцев назад
I'd really love to hear the difference with the other models they offer!
@gabbyy__
@gabbyy__ Год назад
Is there any chance you can do this with the most recent Loop, the Loop Engage?
@SarahLee220
@SarahLee220 3 месяца назад
Mine just arrived today! I’ve worn the foam ear plugs for bed for years and fancied a change after seeing these. I haven’t even been to sleep in them yet but am not impressed with them. I’ve tried all the sizes so far and none feel comfortable or like they even fit? On top of that they don’t even sound like they block the sound out like my foam ones. Will see how I go in bed tonight but know it’s going to be pointless.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment. Foam earplugs are designed for industry and aim to reduce as much sound as possible. Loop Experience Plus earplugs offer more modest sound reduction equally across bass, middle, and treble so music retains a more natural quality. If you are looking to block out as much sound as possible foam earplugs are the way to go. - Steve
@SarahLee220
@SarahLee220 Месяц назад
@@HearingTracker Yeah, I will just just stick to my foam ones, cheap as chips and loads better.
@sk13ppy
@sk13ppy Год назад
The first example was definitely different with the loop but the mute didn't seem to improve it. Second example the volume was just as bad with the loop and again, the mute made no improvement. Thanks.
@libervolucion
@libervolucion Год назад
I think exactly the same. Mute doesn't seem to get any better.
@capripedro1650
@capripedro1650 Год назад
So are they earbuds or ear plugs?
@nicolepassospereira8987
@nicolepassospereira8987 Год назад
Do you think that would work for someone that feels a lot of pain with fireworks?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Hi Nicole, depending on the severity of your sensitivity yes. The Loop Experience offers considerable attenuation when paired with the Mute. If you are looking to block out as much sound as possible, ear muffs work extremely well and offer more consistent protection. Industrial foam plugs are another option but it is more difficult to get them in properly. Hope that helps! - Steve
@misskurmis
@misskurmis Год назад
Are there reasons a person can hear a difference when the mutes are applied? I can’t hear a diff.
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Год назад
Hi Holly, it is very subtle in these recordings. I mainly only hear it on my good sound system and it is very subtle. I'm working on another "Best of" review for earplugs and rerecorded these devices. Hopefully the differences will be more clear in those. - Steve
@Ramdapanda
@Ramdapanda Год назад
@@HearingTracker hi! Just found the channel looking for earplug reviews as I'm looking to upgrade. Couldn't find the "Best of" video, is it still in coming out?
@j_roque
@j_roque 2 месяца назад
What’s de propose?
@jayp9148
@jayp9148 2 месяца назад
Can anyone tell me how do I connect loop earplug with my phone to listen to the music?
@HearingTracker
@HearingTracker Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment. Loop earplugs are passive and do not have any electronics/power to wireless connection to mobile devices. - Steve
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